History YMMV / MadMen

15th May '16 9:33:18 PM DavidDelony
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* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler: Don Draper is really Dick Whitman.]]

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* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler: Don Draper is really Dick Whitman. He also created the "I'd Like to Buy The World A Coke" ad.]]
3rd May '16 12:18:52 PM MikeW
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** Hamm has also added his astonishment of women talking of Don being a guy they want to be with when his horrible treatment of women is a key part of his character.
30th Apr '16 4:37:55 PM pineyfusion
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*** Despite the win for Hamm, they managed to miss winning Best Drama Series over ''Series/GameOfThrones'', whom, according to most, had what was probably their weakest season. They also lost out to Best Writing against Game of Thrones as well.

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*** Despite the win for Hamm, they managed to miss winning Best Drama Series over ''Series/GameOfThrones'', whom, according to most, had what was probably their weakest season. They also lost out to Best Writing against Game of Thrones as well.well, which is considered by many to be the show's weakest season.


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** The usage of the lesser known song by the Zombies called "This Will Be Our Year" was a great capper to the episode "A Day's Work"


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** Was Peggy and Stan getting together in the finale a well-earned satisfying conclusion that, while admittedly cheesy, was a great conclusion to show that Peggy can really have it all? Or was it an overly rushed conclusion that was too stereotypical and sexist because it seemed like giving her a man was what she needed all along?
11th Apr '16 2:10:21 PM MikeW
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** Jon Hamm has spoken in interviews of how it amazes him fans talk of how great a guy Don is and even wanting to live like him, not getting the man is a wretched, selfish, self-destructive mess.
4th Apr '16 10:06:11 AM habby
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** In "The Monolith", Ginsberg gets some good zingers at how the IBM machine is going to replace them all. [[spoiler:In "The Runaways", this gets a whole lot less funny when Ginsberg's paranoia over the machine leads to a psychotic breakdown.]]

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** In "The Monolith", Ginsberg gets some good zingers at how the IBM machine is going to replace them all. [[spoiler:In "The Runaways", this gets a whole lot less funny when Ginsberg's it's revealed Ginsburg wasn't joking and his paranoia over the machine leads to a psychotic breakdown.]]
8th Mar '16 6:59:06 AM haloinsider
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*** Despite the win for Hamm, they managed to miss winning Best Drama Series over Game of Thrones whom, according to most, had what was probably their weakest season. They also lost out to Best Writing against Game of Thrones as well.

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*** Despite the win for Hamm, they managed to miss winning Best Drama Series over Game of Thrones ''Series/GameOfThrones'', whom, according to most, had what was probably their weakest season. They also lost out to Best Writing against Game of Thrones as well.
8th Mar '16 6:58:32 AM haloinsider
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** By the end of its run, the show received a total of 34 acting nominations and only won once: Jon Hamm for Lead Actor in his very last eligible year. This is notable as the other 4-time winners of Best Drama Series,''Series/HillStreetBlues'', ''Series/LALaw'', and ''Series/TheWestWing'', all won acting Emmys several times.
** The show never won for Directing, which is something that no other 4-time winner has ever done.

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** By the end of its run, the show received a total of 34 37 acting nominations and only won once: Jon Hamm for Lead Actor in his very last eligible year. This is notable as the other 4-time winners of Best Drama Series,''Series/HillStreetBlues'', ''Series/LALaw'', and ''Series/TheWestWing'', all won acting Emmys several times.
** The show never won for Directing, as well, which is something was also practically unheard of for a show with that no other 4-time winner has ever done.kind of Emmy attention.



*** Despite the win for Hamm, they were snubbed out of winning Best Drama Series over Game of Thrones whom, according to most, had what was probably their weakest season. They also lost out to Best Writing against Game of Thrones as well.

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*** Despite the win for Hamm, they were snubbed out of managed to miss winning Best Drama Series over Game of Thrones whom, according to most, had what was probably their weakest season. They also lost out to Best Writing against Game of Thrones as well.
3rd Mar '16 5:12:28 AM creader
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* RealWomenHaveCurves: Peggy is contrasted with more thinner and/or buxom women like Megan, Joan, and Betty. Yet Peggy is (as played by the petite and Botticelli-esque ElisabethMoss) a woman with "Hellenic" features (despite being Norwegian and Irish Catholic) and is the representative for the ordinary women and their advances of the 1960s.



* ShipTease: Veers right into OneTrueThreesome with the shots of Joan holding both Don and Roger's hands before the announcement.



* WeUsedToBeFriends: Don and Joan. For most of the show they more or less just coexisted, but seemed to bond at the end of Season 5. However, Joan's ambition and Don's self destructive tendencies caused a huge rift to where Joan wanted him thrown out of the agency. They seemed to make amends by Season 7B though.
28th Feb '16 11:44:39 PM Ramona122003
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** To some extent, Betty Draper in the early seasons. Both Weiner and her actress claim that she will get more understandable and pitiable, if not sympathetic later on. However, it soon becomes harder and harder to tell if she's actually meant to be pitiable in the first place as her abuse of Sally escalates, or due to January Jones's bad acting.
** Megan Draper, particularly in Season 5. A sizable contingent was turned off at how hard Weiner and the show was trying to sell her as the perfect woman who was just "good at everything."
** Joan. Though more [[CostumePorn "Costume Designer's Pet"]]. She still has a large following of fans.



** Peggy Olson has found plenty of fans that relate to her, thanks to ElisbethMoss's work on making Peggy an Everywoman figure and for her CharacterDevelopment; in fact ''The New Yorker'' proclaimed that [[http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1668387/thumbs/o-ELISABETH-570.jpg?1 "ElisabethMoss Has Been the star of ''Mad Men'' All Along: She Just Didn't Know It"]].

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** Peggy Olson has found plenty of fans that relate to her, thanks to ElisbethMoss's Elisbeth Moss's work on making Peggy an Everywoman figure and for her CharacterDevelopment; in fact ''The New Yorker'' proclaimed that [[http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1668387/thumbs/o-ELISABETH-570.jpg?1 "ElisabethMoss Has Been the star of ''Mad Men'' All Along: She Just Didn't Know It"]].



* HoYay: Don and Roger, the epic bromance of the Sixties. They drink and womanize their way through the show, and while they may fight, they always make up. In season three, Bert Cooper stages an intervention for them when their fighting (over Roger's second marriage and Don's lack of respect for Roger) causes problems at Sterling-Cooper, and their reunion assists in [[spoiler: finalizing Sterling-Cooper-Draper-Pryce]]. Don's conversation with Roger in "The Suitcase", with Roger begging Don to accompany him to dinner (albeit one with Freddy Rumsen and Cal Rutledge, neither of whom Don or Roger like) is even more HoYay-ish than usual:

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* HoYay: HoYay:
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Don and Roger, the epic bromance of the Sixties. They drink and womanize their way through the show, and while they may fight, they always make up. In season three, Bert Cooper stages an intervention for them when their fighting (over Roger's second marriage and Don's lack of respect for Roger) causes problems at Sterling-Cooper, and their reunion assists in [[spoiler: finalizing Sterling-Cooper-Draper-Pryce]]. Don's conversation with Roger in "The Suitcase", with Roger begging Don to accompany him to dinner (albeit one with Freddy Rumsen and Cal Rutledge, neither of whom Don or Roger like) is even more HoYay-ish than usual:



* HollywoodHomely: Peggy. She even gets the idea that she isn't attractive, not helping are Joan's insults on her looks and fashion sense or when the guys make jokes about her being a "Gertrude Stein" as opposed to a "Jackie or [[MarilynMonroe Marilyn]]". Yet given that she's played by ElisabethMoss, it's been lampshaded on the show that the idea of her being unattractive is insane and can be attributed to the Men wrapping their heads around the idea that a woman can be beautiful and intellectual along with misogyny. Don ("You're an attractive girl Peggy" and once compared her to [[https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=667&q=Irene+dunne&oq=Irene+dunne&gs_l=img.3..0l10.34.3500.0.3632.20.15.1.1.1.0.299.1479.0j8j1.9.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..9.11.1486.7zROgfZs7eQ#imgrc=euikCY7wS78arM%253A%3B8R5MmDVCLounTM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fia.media-imdb.com%252Fimages%252FM%252FMV5BMzA1NTg0NzU2MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNjU5OTU2._V1_SY317_CR21%252C0%252C214%252C317_AL_.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.imdb.com%252Fname%252Fnm0002050%252F%3B214%3B317 Irene Dunne]]), a suspicious Bobbie ("You're so young and beautiful"), even Joan (admits she has darling ankles and laments her "hiding a very attractive girl under a lot of lunch"), Stan ("You have a nice ass"), and Mathis ("You know you're a catch right?") have commented on how pretty she is.

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* HollywoodHomely: HollywoodHomely:
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Peggy. She even gets the idea that she isn't attractive, not helping are Joan's insults on her looks and fashion sense or when the guys make jokes about her being a "Gertrude Stein" as opposed to a "Jackie or [[MarilynMonroe Marilyn]]". Yet given that she's played by ElisabethMoss, it's been lampshaded on the show that the idea of her being unattractive is insane and can be attributed to the Men wrapping their heads around the idea that a woman can be beautiful and intellectual along with misogyny. Don ("You're an attractive girl Peggy" and once compared her to [[https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=667&q=Irene+dunne&oq=Irene+dunne&gs_l=img.3..0l10.34.3500.0.3632.20.15.1.1.1.0.299.1479.0j8j1.9.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..9.11.1486.7zROgfZs7eQ#imgrc=euikCY7wS78arM%253A%3B8R5MmDVCLounTM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fia.media-imdb.com%252Fimages%252FM%252FMV5BMzA1NTg0NzU2MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNjU5OTU2._V1_SY317_CR21%252C0%252C214%252C317_AL_.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.imdb.com%252Fname%252Fnm0002050%252F%3B214%3B317 Irene Dunne]]), a suspicious Bobbie ("You're so young and beautiful"), even Joan (admits she has darling ankles and laments her "hiding a very attractive girl under a lot of lunch"), Stan ("You have a nice ass"), and Mathis ("You know you're a catch right?") have commented on how pretty she is.



* LesYay: Joyce, the photo editor from LIFE magazine, seems to have a thing for Peggy and takes her to a beatnik party in the Village.
** She also seems to have a thing for Megan.

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* LesYay: Joyce, the photo editor from LIFE magazine, seems to have a thing for Peggy and takes her to a beatnik party in the Village.
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Village. She also seems to have a thing for Megan.



* OneSceneWonder: Leonard, the group attendee with whom Don unexpectedly connects in the series finale.

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Leonard, the group attendee with whom Don unexpectedly connects in the series finale.
15th Feb '16 11:43:42 AM toongrrl1990
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Aside from the obvious about the social injustices of the era against [[NotTooBlack Peop]][[InnocentBigot le]] [[YouAreACreditToYourRace of Color]] and [[YouHaveToHaveJews minorities]], [[SlobsVersusSnobs the working class]], [[StayInTheKitchen wom]][[AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits en]], [[DisabledMeansHelpless the disabled]], [[InsaneEqualsViolent the mentally ill]], [[HollywoodPersonalityDisorders addicted people]], [[AbusiveParents child]][[ParentalAbandonment ren]], and the [[HeteronormativeCrusader LGBTQ]] community along with how shallow advertising is and how [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Rape and Sexual Harassment are traumatic and humiliating for the victim and even those indirectly involved]] , there is a recurring theme of Self-Actualization and Acceptance. How people need to accept themselves for how they are while growing as people along the way, even if they don't change completely, they need to work within their own psyche and realize their full potential.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Aside from the obvious about the social injustices of the era against [[NotTooBlack [[ButNotTooBlack Peop]][[InnocentBigot le]] [[YouAreACreditToYourRace of Color]] and [[YouHaveToHaveJews minorities]], [[SlobsVersusSnobs the working class]], [[StayInTheKitchen wom]][[AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits en]], [[DisabledMeansHelpless the disabled]], [[InsaneEqualsViolent the mentally ill]], [[HollywoodPersonalityDisorders addicted people]], [[AbusiveParents child]][[ParentalAbandonment ren]], and the [[HeteronormativeCrusader LGBTQ]] community along with how shallow advertising is and how [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Rape and Sexual Harassment are traumatic and humiliating for the victim and even those indirectly involved]] , there is a recurring theme of Self-Actualization and Acceptance. How people need to accept themselves for how they are while growing as people along the way, even if they don't change completely, they need to work within their own psyche and realize their full potential. And that everyone deserves some love.
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