History YMMV / LittleWomen

31st Oct '16 10:46:21 PM Mara
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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should hold AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Even Jo says:

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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should hold AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Even {{Tomboy}} Jo says:
2nd Oct '16 4:16:58 AM Mara
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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should hold AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Here from Fritz and (of all people!) Jo Bhaer:
--->"But needlework is not a fashionable accomplishment, my dear."
--->"Sorry for it. My girls shall learn all I can teach them about it, even if they give up the Latin, Algebra, and half-a-dozen ologies it is considered necessary for girls to muddle their poor brains over now-a-days."

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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should hold AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Here from Fritz and (of all people!) Even Jo Bhaer:
--->"But needlework is not a fashionable accomplishment, my dear."
--->"Sorry for it. My
says:
--->"My
girls shall learn all I can teach them about it, [needlework], even if they give up the Latin, Algebra, and half-a-dozen ologies it is considered necessary for girls to muddle their poor brains over now-a-days."
2nd Oct '16 4:11:02 AM Mara
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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should keep AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Here from Fritz and (of all people) Jo Bhaer:

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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should keep hold AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Here from Fritz and (of all people) people!) Jo Bhaer:
2nd Oct '16 4:09:54 AM Mara
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*** This shows up again more explicitly in one of Alcott's non-March novels, ''Jack and Jill''. Near the end of which Jack's mother--portrayed throughout as a cultured and thoughtful woman--informs her sons she's going to cut back their study hours drastically ''for their own good''. This is taken to the extent of deliberately delaying the older brother's entry into college. Hilariously to the modern reader, the boys protest loudly at this, to no avail.

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*** This shows up again more explicitly in one of Alcott's non-March novels, ''Jack and Jill''. Near the end of which Jack's mother--portrayed mother - portrayed throughout as a cultured and thoughtful woman--informs woman - informs her sons she's going to cut back their study hours drastically ''for drastically, for their own good''.good. This is taken to the extent of deliberately delaying the older brother's entry into college. Hilariously to the modern reader, the boys protest loudly at this, to no avail.


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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should keep AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Here from Fritz and (of all people) Jo Bhaer:
--->"But needlework is not a fashionable accomplishment, my dear."
--->"Sorry for it. My girls shall learn all I can teach them about it, even if they give up the Latin, Algebra, and half-a-dozen ologies it is considered necessary for girls to muddle their poor brains over now-a-days."
2nd Oct '16 3:26:41 AM Mara
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** At the end of ''Little Women'' one of the students at the Bhaers' school is "a merry little quadroon, who could not be taken in elsewhere". By the time Ms Alcott write ''Little Men'' this character had been replaced with (mixed-race) Dan. Now image Dan with "the sweetest voice of all."

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** At the end of ''Little Women'' one of the students at the Bhaers' school is "a merry little quadroon, who could not be taken in elsewhere". By the time Ms Alcott write wrote ''Little Men'' this character had been replaced with (mixed-race) Dan. Now image Dan with "the sweetest voice of all."
2nd Oct '16 3:24:31 AM Mara
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Jo, when Amy [[DisproportionateRetribution burns her manuscript]] when the latter doesn't take her on an outing to the theatre. As per the moral imperative mentioned in TastesLikeDiabetes above, the intended focus of the chapter (actually called "Jo Meets Apollyon", ie. her ultimate failing) is clearly Jo's recognition of and resolve to control her violent temper. The modern reader is much more likely to home in on the fact that it was the ''only'' copy of the manuscript that Jo had spent years pouring her heart into. Adding to which Amy, however genuinely remorseful at first, quickly starts to get petulant when she isn't forgiven right away. And when Jo goes out skating with Laurie, leading Amy to whine about missing ''another'' outing, [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Meg]] doesn't help matters at all by blithely suggesting that the little girl tag along where she clearly isn't wanted.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Jo, when Amy [[DisproportionateRetribution burns her manuscript]] when the latter because Jo doesn't take her on an outing to the theatre. As per the moral imperative mentioned in TastesLikeDiabetes above, the intended focus of the chapter (actually called "Jo Meets Apollyon", ie. her ultimate failing) Apollyon") is clearly Jo's recognition of and resolve to control her violent temper. The modern reader is much more likely to home hone in on the fact that it was the ''only'' only copy of the manuscript that Jo had spent years pouring her heart into. Adding to which Amy, however genuinely remorseful at first, quickly starts to get petulant when she isn't forgiven right away. And when Jo goes out skating with Laurie, leading Amy to whine about missing ''another'' another outing, [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Meg]] doesn't help matters at all by blithely suggesting that the little girl tag along where she clearly isn't wanted.
2nd Oct '16 3:21:35 AM Mara
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** Jo's (and the author's) fangirling of German thought and culture is a little awkward given German-American relations in the first half of the 20th century.



** Jo's (and the author's) fangirling of German thought and culture is a little awkward given German-American relations in the first half of the 20th century.
2nd Oct '16 3:20:54 AM Mara
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** At the end of ''Little Women'' one of the students at the Bhaers' school is "a merry little quadroon, who could not be taken in elsewhere". By the time Ms Alcott write ''Little Men'' this character had been replaced with (mixed-race) Dan. Now image Dan as "the little quadroon, who had the sweetest voice of all."

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** At the end of ''Little Women'' one of the students at the Bhaers' school is "a merry little quadroon, who could not be taken in elsewhere". By the time Ms Alcott write ''Little Men'' this character had been replaced with (mixed-race) Dan. Now image Dan as with "the little quadroon, who had the sweetest voice of all."
2nd Oct '16 3:20:02 AM Mara
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* DieForOurShip: Poor Amy. To this day there are ''still'' people invested in demonising her (and apparently Professor Bhaer) for preventing Jo/Laurie. [[DoubleStandard While conveniently letting *Laurie* off the hook, despite him pushing his feelings on Jo to the point of getting rejected twice]].
* FairForItsDay: The series was actually comparatively feminist by the standards of the time -- especially "Jo's Boys", which is set in a co-ed college, struggles openly with the concepts of gender equality, and comes to some surprisingly modern conclusions. In particular, Annie ''aka'' Nan is portrayed as a capable and independent young woman who treats Tommy Bangs' insistence on their ChildhoodMarriagePromise with open amusement, choosing to pursue her medical studies instead and ending up a successful single doctor. All the while Daisy's own choice to marry her {{Childhood Friend|Romance}} Nat and become a {{Housewife}} is ''also'' seen as valid and worthy of respect.

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* DieForOurShip: Poor Amy. To this day there are ''still'' still people invested in demonising her (and apparently Professor Bhaer) for preventing Jo/Laurie. [[DoubleStandard While conveniently letting *Laurie* Laurie off the hook, despite him pushing his feelings on Jo to the point of getting rejected twice]].
* FairForItsDay: The series was actually comparatively feminist by the standards of the time -- - especially "Jo's Boys", ''Jo's Boys'', which is set in a co-ed college, struggles openly with the concepts of gender equality, and comes to some surprisingly modern conclusions. In particular, Annie ''aka'' Nan in particular is portrayed as a capable and independent young woman who treats Tommy Bangs' insistence on their ChildhoodMarriagePromise with open amusement, choosing to pursue her medical studies instead and ending up becoming a successful single doctor. All the while Daisy's own choice to marry her {{Childhood Friend|Romance}} ChildhoodFriendRomance Nat and become a {{Housewife}} is ''also'' seen as valid and worthy of respect.



* FridgeHorror: Mr. Laurence gives Beth his dead granddaughter's piano. So...Laurie had a sister or cousin?
** According to some versions of the book, Laurie had an older sister who died when both of them were little kids. It's not said ''how'' she died, but it may have been an illness since Laurie himself was kind of an [[IllGirl Ill Boy]] as a child.

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* FridgeHorror: Mr. Mr Laurence gives Beth his dead deceased granddaughter's piano. So...Laurie had a sister or cousin?
** According to some versions of the book, Laurie had an older sister who died when both of them were little kids. children. It's not said ''how'' specified how she died, but it may have been an illness since Laurie himself was kind of an [[IllGirl Ill Boy]] as a child.



* HilariousInHindsight: An out-of-universe example in Alcott's journal about her publisher's request to write a book for girls (info in brackets added by troper):
-->Marmee, Anna (Meg's real-life counterpart), and May (Amy's real-life counterpart) all approve my plan. So I plod away, though I donít enjoy this sort of thing. Never liked girls or knew many, except my sisters, but our queer plays and experiences may prove interesting, though I doubt it.
--> (Added later after the novel's publication and success) [[LampshadeHanging Good joke.]]
* HollywoodHomely: Most, if not all, of the movie adaptations cast very beautiful actresses to interpret the self-described "plain" Jo March, leading to the unintentionally hilarious moment when Jo has her hair cut off and a very shocked Amy cries: "Jo, your one beauty!". The Winona Ryder version even has her declare that she is "ugly and awkward". At least Creator/KatharineHepburn in the most famous earlier adaptation isn't a classic beauty, and manages to make young Jo coltish and a bit clumsy.
** This could also be said of the latest incarnation of Professor Bhaer, aka Gabriel Byrne.
* ItWasHisSled: Beth's fate.

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* HilariousInHindsight: An HilariousInHindsight:
**An
out-of-universe example in Alcott's journal about her publisher's request to write a book for girls (info in brackets added by troper):
-->Marmee, --->Marmee, Anna (Meg's real-life counterpart), and May (Amy's real-life counterpart) all approve my plan. So I plod away, though I donít enjoy this sort of thing. Never liked girls or knew many, except my sisters, but our queer plays and experiences may prove interesting, though I doubt it.
--> ---> (Added later after the novel's publication and success) [[LampshadeHanging Good joke.]]
** At the end of ''Little Women'' one of the students at the Bhaers' school is "a merry little quadroon, who could not be taken in elsewhere". By the time Ms Alcott write ''Little Men'' this character had been replaced with (mixed-race) Dan. Now image Dan as "the little quadroon, who had the sweetest voice of all."
* HollywoodHomely: Most, if not all, of All the movie adaptations have cast very beautiful actresses to interpret the self-described "plain" Jo March, leading to the unintentionally hilarious moment when Jo has her hair cut off and a very shocked Amy cries: "Jo, your one beauty!". The Winona Ryder version even has her declare that she is "ugly and awkward". At least Creator/KatharineHepburn in the most famous earlier adaptation isn't a classic beauty, and manages to make young Jo coltish and a bit clumsy.
** This could also be said of the latest incarnation of Professor Bhaer, aka Gabriel Byrne.
* ItWasHisSled: Beth's fate.Beth dies.



* ShippingGoggles: Jo puts on her Beth/Laurie shipping goggles in the chapter "Tender Troubles."

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* ShippingGoggles: Jo puts on her Beth/Laurie shipping goggles in the chapter "Tender Troubles."Troubles".
2nd Oct '16 3:03:59 AM Mara
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** Jo's (and the author's) fangirling of German thought and culture is a little awkward given German-American relations in the first half of the 20th century.
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