History YMMV / LittleWomen

20th Feb '17 11:13:43 AM Shoebox
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** Jo's (and the author's) fangirling of German thought and culture got a little awkward given German-American relations in the first half of the 20th century. Not so much now, given that things have gotten much better between the two countries.

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** Jo's (and Jo's--and the author's) author's--open fangirling of over German thought and culture culture, very much in keeping with the fashions of the time (yes, there was a period during which Germans were stereotyped as sentimental...) later got a little awkward given German-American relations in the first half of the 20th century. Not so much now, given that things Things have gotten much better between improved dramatically since, of course, but it's still faintly bemusing to the two countries.modern reader.
20th Feb '17 11:08:39 AM Shoebox
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** The opening chapter of ''Jo's Boys'' unceremoniously informs us that [[BuryYourDisabled physically disabled Dick and mentally disabled Billy]] are [[KilledOffscreen dead now]]. And "no one could mourn for them, since life would never be happy, afflicted as they were in mind and body". While the idea that [[FateWorseThanDeath death is preferable to disability]] is still around, [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop it's far less acceptable]], let alone charitable or sympathetic.
19th Feb '17 8:26:00 AM MagBas
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** The opening chapter of ''Jo's Boys'' unceremoniously informs us that [[BuryYourDisabled physically disabled Dick and mentally disabled Billy]] are [[KilledOffscreen dead now]]. And "[[UnfortunateImplications no one could mourn for them, since life would never be happy]], [[DisabledMeansHelpless afflicted as they were in mind and body]]". While the idea that [[FateWorseThanDeath death is preferable to disability]] is still around, [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop it's far less acceptable]], let alone charitable or sympathetic.
23rd Jan '17 7:24:37 PM Evighet
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* SeparatedAtBirthCasting: In the -94 film, Claire Danes (Beth) and Samantha Mathis (adult Amy) look quite alike and can easily pass for sisters.
15th Jan '17 9:56:41 AM annette12
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* TheScrappy: Amy is widely disliked among fans, and not just for DieForOurShip. As a child, she's a bratty little thing, and burns Jo's manuscript just because she doesn't get taken to the theatre - and gets EasilyForgiven for it too. And when she grows up, she becomes so annoyingly perfect that it feels like CharacterShilling.

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* TheScrappy: Amy is widely disliked among fans, and not just for DieForOurShip. As a child, she's a bratty little thing, and burns Jo's manuscript just because she doesn't get taken to the theatre - and gets EasilyForgiven for it too.theatre. And when she grows up, she becomes so annoyingly perfect that it feels like CharacterShilling.
12th Jan '17 6:23:43 PM fearlessnikki
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Great Aunt March is a bitter old lady, and the girls have very little love for her. But after she dies, Marmee implies that she was really just very lonely - "her blessings became a burden because she had none to share them with" - and the girls acting as her companions could be just because the old lady wants ''some'' company and attention since she never had children of her own.



* FairForItsDay: The series was actually comparatively feminist by the standards of the time - especially ''Jo's Boys'', which is set in a co-ed college, struggles openly with the concepts of gender equality, and comes to some surprisingly modern conclusions. Nan in particular is portrayed as a capable and independent young woman who treats Tommy Bangs' insistence on their ChildhoodMarriagePromise with amusement, choosing to pursue her medical studies instead and becoming a successful single doctor. Daisy's own choice to marry her ChildhoodFriendRomance Nat and become a {{Housewife}} is ''also'' seen as valid and worthy of respect.

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* FairForItsDay: FairForItsDay:
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The series was actually comparatively feminist by the standards of the time - especially ''Jo's Boys'', which is set in a co-ed college, struggles openly with the concepts of gender equality, and comes to some surprisingly modern conclusions. Nan in particular is portrayed as a capable and independent young woman who treats Tommy Bangs' insistence on their ChildhoodMarriagePromise with amusement, choosing to pursue her medical studies instead and becoming a successful single doctor. Daisy's own choice to marry her ChildhoodFriendRomance Nat and become a {{Housewife}} is ''also'' seen as valid and worthy of respect.



* FanPreferredCouple: Jo and Laurie. The original 19th century fandom also shipped them.
* FirstInstallmentWins
* FridgeHorror: Mr Laurence gives Beth his deceased granddaughter's piano. Laurie had a sister or cousin?
** According to some versions of the book, Laurie had an older sister who died when both of them were children. It's not specified how she died, but it may have been an illness since Laurie himself was an [[IllGirl Ill Boy]] as a child.
* Sugarwiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}: The very end of the 1994 film:
-->'''Bhaer''': But I have nothing to give you! My hands are empty!
--> '''Jo''': (taking his hand) Not empty now.
** "I know I shall be homesick for you, even in Heaven."

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* FanPreferredCouple: Jo and Laurie. The original 19th century fandom also shipped them.
* FirstInstallmentWins
* FridgeHorror: Mr Laurence gives Beth his deceased granddaughter's piano. Laurie had a sister or cousin?
** According to some versions
them. Alcott put him with Amy partly out of annoyance at their focus on the book, Laurie had an older sister who died when both of them were children. It's not specified how she died, but it may have romance.
* FirstInstallmentWins: The first book has
been an illness since Laurie himself was an [[IllGirl Ill Boy]] as a child.
* Sugarwiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}:
adapted many times - including five films. The very end of the 1994 film:
-->'''Bhaer''': But I have nothing to give you! My hands are empty!
--> '''Jo''': (taking his hand) Not empty now.
** "I know I shall be homesick for you, even in Heaven."
sequels get less adaptations love.



** Katherine Hepburn rebuffing Laurie repeatedly in the 1933 version is hilarious to ''Film/BringingUpBaby'' fans. There ''she'' is the one pursuing an uninterested partner - and she ends up yanking him into her life. Guess she knew from experience.



* ItWasHisSled: Beth dies.

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* ItWasHisSled: Beth dies.dies, and you can thank ''{{Series/Friends}}'' for giving it away. Although it happens earlier, it's also widely known that Jo and Laurie don't end up together.



* {{Moe}}: Beth.

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* {{Moe}}: Beth.Beth, as she's an IllGirl but still very sweet. Margaret O'Brien proved to be such in the 1949 film, reducing her co-star June Allyson to tears during one emotional scene.
* {{Narm}}: The "Jo, your one beauty" line from Amy after Jo sells her hair in the 1994 version. [[BrutalHonesty Being rather blunt about how bad your sister looks now, aren't you dear?]]



* RonTheDeathEater: Some people go overboard with bashing the Hummels for getting Beth sick - as if it was part of some evil plot.
* TheScrappy: Amy is widely disliked among fans, and not just for DieForOurShip. As a child, she's a bratty little thing, and burns Jo's manuscript just because she doesn't get taken to the theatre - and gets EasilyForgiven for it too. And when she grows up, she becomes so annoyingly perfect that it feels like CharacterShilling.
* SheReallyCanAct: Katherine Hepburn had a growing HypeBacklash to her sudden rise to fame on the screen. Then she starred in the 1933 version, and many of her detractors went away.



* TastesLikeDiabetes: Can come across as such to a modern reader unused to the straight-forwardly sentimental tone and earnest moralising very typical of children's literature of the time.

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* TastesLikeDiabetes: TastesLikeDiabetes:
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Can come across as such to a modern reader unused to the straight-forwardly sentimental tone and earnest moralising very typical of children's literature of the time.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Some feel that Beth doesn't get enough screen time in the 1994 version.



*** This shows up again more explicitly in one of Alcott's non-March novels, ''Jack and Jill''. Near the end of which Jack's mother - portrayed throughout as a cultured and thoughtful woman - informs her sons she's going to cut back their study hours drastically, for their own good. This is taken to the extent of deliberately delaying the older brother's entry into college. Hilariously to the modern reader, the boys protest loudly at this, to no avail.

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*** ** This shows up again more explicitly in one of Alcott's non-March novels, ''Jack and Jill''. Near the end of which Jack's mother - portrayed throughout as a cultured and thoughtful woman - informs her sons she's going to cut back their study hours drastically, for their own good. This is taken to the extent of deliberately delaying the older brother's entry into college. Hilariously to the modern reader, the boys protest loudly at this, to no avail.



** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should hold AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Even {{Tomboy}} Jo says:

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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined reminded that girls should hold AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Even {{Tomboy}} Jo says:
3rd Jan '17 10:07:59 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Jo's (and the author's) fangirling of German thought and culture is a little awkward given German-American relations in the first half of the 20th century.

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** Jo's (and the author's) fangirling of German thought and culture is got a little awkward given German-American relations in the first half of the 20th century.century. Not so much now, given that things have gotten much better between the two countries.
31st Oct '16 10:46:21 PM Mara
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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should hold AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Even Jo says:

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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should hold AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Even {{Tomboy}} Jo says:
2nd Oct '16 4:16:58 AM Mara
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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should hold AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Here from Fritz and (of all people!) Jo Bhaer:
--->"But needlework is not a fashionable accomplishment, my dear."
--->"Sorry for it. My girls shall learn all I can teach them about it, even if they give up the Latin, Algebra, and half-a-dozen ologies it is considered necessary for girls to muddle their poor brains over now-a-days."

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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should hold AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Here from Fritz and (of all people!) Even Jo Bhaer:
--->"But needlework is not a fashionable accomplishment, my dear."
--->"Sorry for it. My
says:
--->"My
girls shall learn all I can teach them about it, [needlework], even if they give up the Latin, Algebra, and half-a-dozen ologies it is considered necessary for girls to muddle their poor brains over now-a-days."
2nd Oct '16 4:11:02 AM Mara
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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should keep AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Here from Fritz and (of all people) Jo Bhaer:

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** While LittleWomen is usually very FairForItsDay, there are still plenty of moments where we're remined that girls should keep hold AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits above all others. Here from Fritz and (of all people) people!) Jo Bhaer:
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