History YMMV / LegacyOfTheForce

25th Dec '15 1:18:04 AM OmegaNemesis13
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* HilariousInHindsight: When she "left" Del Rey (rumors are that she was actually let go because of her being difficult to work with, as Troy Denning and Aaron Allston have mentioned), Karen Traviss claimed that if she came back, she'd reboot the universe in order to undo TheCloneWars interpretation of the Mandalorians, as if she actually would have had the authority to do so. Several years later, Disney officially rebooted the EU, with quite a few believing it was due to this series and its sequel poisoning the EU to almost incontinuable levels.
20th May '15 5:40:46 AM CrimsonZephyr
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* DesignatedHero and DesignatedVillain: The first five books, in their Alliance vs. Corellia plotline, abandon decades of previous characterization to make previously tight-knit heroes fight each other in a stupid war. Highlights include Wedge, Han, and Leia becoming standard-bearers for the totalitarian Corellian government and Luke and Mara being 100% okay with their son joining the Alliance equivalent of the SS. It's only after they start suffering personal tragedy that they rethink their allegiances.
3rd Dec '14 7:55:01 AM medrautaplot
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* CharacterShilling: Karen Traviss's work is accused of this by some any time her Mandalorian subplot comes up.


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* TooManyCooksSpoilTheSoup: A possible real world version, as the series grew more chaotic, padded, and just plain weird as time went on. Notably, Karen Traviss had a widely different style of writing and concept of the universe from Aaron Allston and Troy Denning, leading to the TrappedByMountainLions plot below, while each author also had their own subplots and interpretations of characters, each of which would radically change the context of the series.
18th Nov '14 2:27:45 PM MagBas
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* UnfortunateImplications: In the first four books, Leia supports Thrackan Sal-Solo's fascist regime on Corellia almost entirely because Han does, despite knowing exactly what kind of monster he is, and despite his policies conflicting with everything she spent her life fighting for.

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* UnfortunateImplications: In the first four books, Leia supports Thrackan Sal-Solo's fascist regime on Corellia almost entirely because Han does, despite knowing exactly what kind of monster he is, and despite his policies conflicting with everything she spent her life fighting for.
11th Nov '13 3:27:50 PM KingClark
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* AlasPoorScrappy: Jacen.
* BaseBreaker: Less so than ''NewJediOrder'' at reception.

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* AlasPoorScrappy: Jacen.
Jacen.
* BaseBreaker: BrokenBase: Less so than ''NewJediOrder'' at reception.''Literature/NewJediOrder'' as far as reception goes - the majority of ''Star Wars'' fans have expressed distaste with the series, while a minority enjoy it.



* HarsherInHindsight: Back in the ''NewJediOrder'' series, Leia had a depressing vision of Jaina and herself telling Jaina’s kids about their heroic late aunt Mara. The vision seemed to have become irrelevant when Mara recovered from her illness, then 16 years later, Jacen became Darth Caedus.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Back in the ''NewJediOrder'' ''New Jedi Order'' series, Leia had a depressing vision of Jaina and herself telling Jaina’s kids about their heroic late aunt Mara. The vision seemed to have become irrelevant when Mara recovered from her illness, then 16 years later, Jacen became Darth Caedus.



* UnfortunateImplications: In the first four books, Leia supports Thrackan Sal-Solo's fascist regime on Corellia almost entirely because Han does, despite knowing exactly what kind of monster he is, and despite his policies conflicting with everything she spent her life fighting for.

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* UnfortunateImplications: In the first four books, Leia supports Thrackan Sal-Solo's fascist regime on Corellia almost entirely because Han does, despite knowing exactly what kind of monster he is, and despite his policies conflicting with everything she spent her life fighting for.for.
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14th Oct '13 5:52:07 PM IchigoMontoya
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* BaseBreaker: Less so than ''NewJediOrder'' at reception. It generally lands right smack dab in the middle of FanonDiscontinuity.
* CrackPairing: Go {{Squick}}, guys
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Early and often, though it's [[SignatureStyle to be expected]] since [[strike: JossWhedon]] AaronAllston wrote the first book.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming

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* BaseBreaker: Less so than ''NewJediOrder'' at reception. It generally lands right smack dab in the middle of FanonDiscontinuity.\n* CrackPairing: Go {{Squick}}, guys\n* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Early and often, though it's [[SignatureStyle to be expected]] since [[strike: JossWhedon]] AaronAllston wrote the first book.\n* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming



* FanonDiscontinuity Especially among fanfic writers.

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* FanonDiscontinuity FanonDiscontinuity: Especially among fanfic writers.



* FreudWasRight: So let me get this straight. Jacen traumatizes Ben in so many ways, all the time with Luke's approval.
* FridgeBrilliance: So fridge-y that, after Jacen kills Ailyn Vel, not no one in the cast -- even Jacen -- remembers that she tried to kill him twice in ''Shards of Alderaan''!
* GodModeSue: Jacen. Also Allana, his ''four-year-old daughter'' who in ''Tempest'' incapacitates [[PsychoForHire Aurra Sing]] with a sedative syringe.
** Well, not quite Allana. The only reason she took out Aurra was because Aurra was preoccupied in kicking Jacen's ass and didn't consider her a threat. Allana got the jump on her, and that's the last time it's going to happen, if Aurra's rage at her defeat is anything to go by.
* HarsherInHindsight: back in the ''NewJediOrder'' series, Leia had a depressing vision of Jaina and herself telling Jaina’s kids about their heroic late aunt Mara. The vision seemed to have become irrelevant when Mara recovered from her illness, then 16 years later, Jacen happened…

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* FreudWasRight: So let me get this straight. Jacen traumatizes Ben in so many ways, all the time with Luke's approval.
* FridgeBrilliance: So fridge-y that, after After Jacen kills Ailyn Vel, not no one in the cast -- even Jacen -- remembers that she tried to kill him twice in ''Shards of Alderaan''!
* GodModeSue: Jacen. Also Allana, his ''four-year-old daughter'' who in ''Tempest'' incapacitates [[PsychoForHire Aurra Sing]] with a sedative syringe.
** Well, not quite Allana. The only reason she took out Aurra was because Aurra was preoccupied in kicking Jacen's ass and didn't consider her a threat. Allana got the jump on her, and that's the last time it's going to happen, if Aurra's rage at her defeat is anything to go by.
Alderaan''.
* HarsherInHindsight: back Back in the ''NewJediOrder'' series, Leia had a depressing vision of Jaina and herself telling Jaina’s kids about their heroic late aunt Mara. The vision seemed to have become irrelevant when Mara recovered from her illness, then 16 years later, Jacen happened…became Darth Caedus.



* MagnificentBitch: Lumiya
* MarySuetopia: Mandalorians. Karen Traviss. All everyone needs to know is that she has a Boba Fettish and thinks the Jedi thought of the clones as slaves(despite the incredible amounts of evidence to the contrary).
* MoralEventHorizon: and keeps right on going for Jacen
* {{Narm}}
-->"My parents are terrorist scum, and ''that'' is why I have turned my back on them."
-->-Jacen Solo, ''Tempest''
* RootingForTheEmpire: It is StarWars.
* {{Sequelitis}} (big time)
* ShipToShipCombat: Just pick someone, Jaina! Gah... [[spoiler:Worst of all she picks nobody! The subject is never resolved in the last book after Zekk's disappearance.]]
* {{Squick}}: Read [[http://gabri-jade.livejournal.com/167587.html#cutid1 this]] and CTRL+F "chapter ten"

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* MagnificentBitch: Lumiya
* MarySuetopia: Mandalorians. Karen Traviss. All everyone needs to know is that she has a Boba Fettish and thinks the Jedi thought of the clones as slaves(despite the incredible amounts of evidence to the contrary).
MagnificentBastard: Lumiya.
* MoralEventHorizon: and keeps right on going for Jacen
[[spoiler:Jacen killing Mara.]]
* {{Narm}}
-->"My
{{Narm}}: "My parents are terrorist scum, and ''that'' is why I have turned my back on them."
-->-Jacen Solo, ''Tempest''
* RootingForTheEmpire: It is StarWars.
* {{Sequelitis}} (big time)
* ShipToShipCombat: Just pick someone, Jaina! Gah... [[spoiler:Worst of all she picks nobody! The subject is never resolved in the last book after Zekk's disappearance.]]
* {{Squick}}: Read [[http://gabri-jade.livejournal.com/167587.html#cutid1 this]] and CTRL+F "chapter ten"Here]].



* UnfortunateImplications: In the first four books, Leia supports Thrackan Sal-Solo's fascist regime on Corellia almost entirely because Han does, despite knowing exactly what kind of monster he is, and despite his policies conflicting with everything she spent her life fighting for.
* WhamLine: Jacen's final line in ''Inferno.''
-->"Caedus. My name is Darth Caedus."

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* UnfortunateImplications: In the first four books, Leia supports Thrackan Sal-Solo's fascist regime on Corellia almost entirely because Han does, despite knowing exactly what kind of monster he is, and despite his policies conflicting with everything she spent her life fighting for.
* WhamLine: Jacen's final line in ''Inferno.''
-->"Caedus. My name is Darth Caedus."
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20th Aug '13 5:43:26 PM jesse19
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* MagnificentBitch: Lumiya
2nd Aug '13 9:07:24 AM Twig
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* FoeYay: Ben and Tahiri.
* FreudWasRight: So let me get this straight. Jacen traumatizes Ben in so many ways, all the time with Luke's approval.
* FridgeBrilliance: So fridge-y that, after Jacen kills Ailyn Vel, not no one in the cast -- even Jacen -- remembers that she tried to kill him twice in ''Shards of Alderaan''!
1st Aug '13 9:38:15 PM TVRulezAgain
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* CompleteMonster: Thrackan Sal-Solo. The worst part about him is that he induces stupidity in others, and Han, Leia, Wedge, and the entire Corellian sector are willing to follow a genocidal war criminal, despite the first three having fought Thrackan before and knowing his true colors. He's also extremely unsubtle about his evil -- during a government meeting, he outright threatens to just have Wedge killed if he doesn't agree to be his YesMan.
17th Jul '13 10:57:59 AM CrimsonZephyr
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* CompleteMonster: Thrackan Sal-Solo. The worst part about him is that he induces stupidity in others, and Han, Leia, Wedge, and the entire Corellian sector are willing to follow a genocidal war criminal, despite the first three having fought Thrackan before and knowing his true colors. He's also extremely unsubtle about his evil -- during a government meeting, he outright threatens to just have Wedge killed if he doesn't agree to be his YesMan.
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