History YMMV / LeftBehind

1st Jul '17 5:10:37 PM nombretomado
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** The plotline about the recruitment of Rayford, a civilian airline employee, as pilot for UsefulNotes/AirForceOne. In case the '''name''' of the plane didn't make this clear, TheOtherWiki has a list of all previous Air Force One pilots. All were military officers, none below Lieutenant Colonel.

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** The plotline about the recruitment of Rayford, a civilian airline employee, as pilot for UsefulNotes/AirForceOne. In case the '''name''' of the plane didn't make this clear, TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki has a list of all previous Air Force One pilots. All were military officers, none below Lieutenant Colonel.
21st Jun '17 2:29:42 AM ImpudentInfidel
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*** The blackmail story itself reveals even more ValuesDissonance between the writers and a large chunk of contemporary society, namely that blackmailing someone about being a lesbian would even ''work''; most people these days in North America wouldn't care if someone working at a newspaper (or anywhere, now including the military) was gay.

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*** The blackmail story itself reveals even more ValuesDissonance between the writers and a large chunk of contemporary society, namely that blackmailing someone about being a lesbian would even ''work''; most people these days in North America wouldn't care if someone working at a newspaper (or anywhere, now including the military) was gay. Actually trying it would probably destroy ''his'' reputation.
28th May '17 5:17:56 AM MagBas
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* MarySuetopia / CrapsaccharineWorld: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. Even non-believers can live for a hundred years in perfect health. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off if they fail. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky, and presumably sent to Hell immediately. From one line in Buck and Chloe's case, TrueBelievers might not even have a sex drive any more. Those that were Raptured or martyred during the tribulation are treated as some sort of ruling elite, with true immortality and superpowers above the others. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the devil-worshiping [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] FanonDiscontinuity [[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyond ensues.]]

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* MarySuetopia / CrapsaccharineWorld: MarySuetopia: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. Even non-believers can live for a hundred years in perfect health. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off if they fail. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky, and presumably sent to Hell immediately. From one line in Buck and Chloe's case, TrueBelievers might not even have a sex drive any more. Those that were Raptured or martyred during the tribulation are treated as some sort of ruling elite, with true immortality and superpowers above the others. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the devil-worshiping [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] FanonDiscontinuity [[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyond ensues.]]
28th May '17 5:03:49 AM spiritplumber
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* MarySuetopia / CrapsaccharineWorld: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. Even non-believers can live for a hundred years in perfect health. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off if they fail. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky, and presumably sent to Hell immediately. From one line in Buck and Chloe's case, TrueBelievers might not even have a sex drive any more. Those that were Raptured or martyred during the tribulation are treated as some sort of ruling elite, with true immortality and superpowers above the others. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the devil-worshiping [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] [[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyond It turns out a bit stranger than you'd think.]]

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* MarySuetopia / CrapsaccharineWorld: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. Even non-believers can live for a hundred years in perfect health. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off if they fail. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky, and presumably sent to Hell immediately. From one line in Buck and Chloe's case, TrueBelievers might not even have a sex drive any more. Those that were Raptured or martyred during the tribulation are treated as some sort of ruling elite, with true immortality and superpowers above the others. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the devil-worshiping [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] FanonDiscontinuity [[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyond It turns out a bit stranger than you'd think.ensues.]]



** The implication that GodIsEvil also comes from his tendency to torture people for eternity on purely religious (and not moral) grounds. Furthermore, since everything in the book is supposedly predestined, none of the people condemned to Hell [[YouCantFightFate had any choice in the matter.]] Depending on how much slack you want to give on His OmniscientMoralityLicense, the series's version of God could range from being an anti-hero to a full-out TheBadGuyWins. Not that the authors believe that, of course.

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** The implication that GodIsEvil also comes from his tendency to torture people for eternity on purely religious (and not moral) grounds. Furthermore, since everything in the book is supposedly predestined, none of the people condemned to Hell [[YouCantFightFate had any choice in the matter.]] Depending on how much slack you want to give on His OmniscientMoralityLicense, the series's version of God could range from being an anti-hero to a full-out TheBadGuyWins. Not that the authors believe that, of course.course, [[[[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyond although 4chan apparently does.]]
28th May '17 5:01:35 AM spiritplumber
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* MarySuetopia / CrapsaccharineWorld: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. Even non-believers can live for a hundred years in perfect health. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off if they fail. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky, and presumably sent to Hell immediately. From one line in Buck and Chloe's case, TrueBelievers might not even have a sex drive any more. Those that were Raptured or martyred during the tribulation are treated as some sort of ruling elite, with true immortality and superpowers above the others. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the devil-worshiping [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] [[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyond Guess how that turned out!]]

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* MarySuetopia / CrapsaccharineWorld: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. Even non-believers can live for a hundred years in perfect health. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off if they fail. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky, and presumably sent to Hell immediately. From one line in Buck and Chloe's case, TrueBelievers might not even have a sex drive any more. Those that were Raptured or martyred during the tribulation are treated as some sort of ruling elite, with true immortality and superpowers above the others. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the devil-worshiping [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] [[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyond Guess how that turned out!]]It turns out a bit stranger than you'd think.]]
28th May '17 4:58:32 AM spiritplumber
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** Cendrillon Jospin. For a PosthumousCharacter who only exists as an example of a good person who goes to Hell anyway due to not being a believer, she sure shows up a lot in fanfics.
24th May '17 1:07:30 AM Scabbard
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** Buck blackmails a woman with the threat of outing her as a lesbian if she reveals certain information that she has, and that she legitimately feels the public has the right to know. Chloe, his wife, [[EnsembleDarkhorse who used to be a realistic, fairly nice woman]] before she was [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks 'saved']], laughs about said blackmail. Even better, the scene in question plays out exactly like the opening to a standard smear campaign to harass a woman out of her position (She's his boss, who he's been disrespecting, belittling, and treating like his secretary because he thinks she's not good enough). Buck brings up, out of nowhere, "Well, what if I go around telling everyone you're a lesbian? How will you like that?" It's not even clear initially that she ''is'' a lesbian, since her response is simply to panic at the idea he's going to start spreading the rumor and deny it (not that this stops him from taking this as "proof"). Later Buck takes over her office and, when she comes in to demand to know what he's doing, he attempts to kick the door into her face. This is, of course, presented as one of his great heroic actions in the books, and also totally hilarious, even more than blackmailing her.

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** Buck blackmails a woman with the threat of outing her as a lesbian if she reveals certain information that she has, and that she legitimately feels the public has the right to know. Chloe, his wife, [[EnsembleDarkhorse who used to be a realistic, fairly nice woman]] before she was [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks 'saved']], laughs about said blackmail. Even better, the scene in question plays out exactly like the opening to a standard smear campaign to harass a woman out of her position (She's (she's his boss, who he's been disrespecting, belittling, and treating like his secretary because he thinks she's not good enough). Buck brings up, out of nowhere, "Well, what if I go around telling everyone you're a lesbian? How will you like that?" It's not even clear initially that she ''is'' a lesbian, since her response is simply to panic at the idea he's going to start spreading the rumor and deny it (not that this stops him from taking this as "proof"). Later Buck takes over her office and, when she comes in to demand to know what he's doing, he attempts to kick the door into her face. This is, of course, presented as one of his great heroic actions in the books, and also totally hilarious, even more than blackmailing her.
5th May '17 9:04:48 AM spiritplumber
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** The Other Light members: Deluded fools who want Satan to defeat God, helpless pawns of fate since they are prophecied to do that (and lose), or heroic freedom fighters?
26th Mar '17 1:31:34 PM spiritplumber
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** A 4Chan quest appropriately titled Left Beyond, which takes the last 100 years of the Millennial Kingdom and attempts to build a scenario in which The Other Light fight back through AwesomenessByAnalysis - given the significant time span, what starts off as a semi-realistic scenario ends with a NinjaPirateZombieRobot or two. You can find it at http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyond
26th Mar '17 12:58:33 PM spiritplumber
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* MarySuetopia / CrapsaccharineWorld: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. Even non-believers can live for a hundred years in perfect health. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off if they fail. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky, and presumably sent to Hell immediately. From one line in Buck and Chloe's case, TrueBelievers might not even have a sex drive any more. Those that were Raptured or martyred during the tribulation are treated as some sort of ruling elite, with true immortality and superpowers above the others. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the devil-worshiping [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] [[CurbStompBattle Guess how that turned out!]] In 4chan's take on the matter, the fight goes just as described... except not quite. http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyond

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* MarySuetopia / CrapsaccharineWorld: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. Even non-believers can live for a hundred years in perfect health. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off if they fail. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky, and presumably sent to Hell immediately. From one line in Buck and Chloe's case, TrueBelievers might not even have a sex drive any more. Those that were Raptured or martyred during the tribulation are treated as some sort of ruling elite, with true immortality and superpowers above the others. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the devil-worshiping [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] [[CurbStompBattle Guess how that turned out!]] In 4chan's take on the matter, the fight goes just as described... except not quite. http://suptg.[[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyondhtml?tags=left%20beyond Guess how that turned out!]]
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