History YMMV / LeftBehind

23rd Aug '16 3:25:46 PM CaptainCrawdad
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** Journalists talk about the U.N. Secretary-General having an "exclusive" with a gathering of journalists, but this is just a press conference. An "exclusive," as the name would suggest, is when an interview subject talks ''exclusively'' with one journalist or organization.

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** Journalists talk about Buck Williams receives an "exclusive" interview with the new U.N. Secretary-General having an "exclusive" with Nicolae Carpathia, which is scheduled for after Carpathia speaks to a gathering number of journalists, but this is just a press conference. other journalists. An "exclusive," as the name would suggest, is when an interview subject talks ''exclusively'' with one journalist or organization.organization on a subject.
23rd Aug '16 8:28:39 AM CaptainCrawdad
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** Journalists talk about the U.N. Secretary-General having an "exclusive" with a gathering of journalists, but this is just a press conference. An "exclusive," as the name would suggest, is when an interview subject talks ''exclusively'' with one journalist or organization.
1st Jan '16 2:05:41 PM twingle93
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* MarySuetopia / CrapsaccharineWorld: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. Even non-believers can live for a hundred years in perfect health. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off if they fail. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky, and presumably sent to Hell immediately. From one line in Buck and Chloe's case, TrueBelievers might not even have a sex drive any more. Those that were Raptured or martyred during the tribulation are treated as some sort of ruling elite, with true immortality and superpowers above the others. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the devil-worshiping [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] [[CurbStompBattle Guess how that turned out!]]
1st Jan '16 9:32:57 AM BobRiddle
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* EndingFatigue: The last several books of the Left Behind series suffered from this problem. After the Antichrist came back from the dead, killed people with fiery pillars from the sky, and desecrated the Temple in Jerusalem, there just wasn't anything more evil for him to do. And that was Book Eight of a 13 book series (not counting the three prequels). It doesn't help that anyone who will read that particular series through Book Eight already knows the ending (spoiler: [[spoiler:Satan loses]]) and is just slogging along to see exactly how they're going to get there.
30th Dec '15 12:38:18 PM MagBas
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** The fact that thanks to massive ValuesDissonance, GodAndSatanAreBothJerks, and like their minions have nearly the exact same goals: Nicolae wants to kill everyone who doesn't worship him, as does Jesus. Nicolae wants to take over the world and establish a one-world religion comprised of people who worship him. Jesus also wants this (and gets this in the 13th book in the series "Kingdom Come"). The only difference between the two is power-levels, and it is a massive difference. Jesus is so powerful that he comes off as a literal GodModeSue, while Nicolae is an IneffectualSympatheticVillain. Rather than choosing Jesus out of moral conviction, it seems quite likely that anybody who joins the 'good' side after the Rapture is simply joining the side that ''cannot lose,'' which is hardly proof of virtue.

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** The fact that thanks to massive ValuesDissonance, GodAndSatanAreBothJerks, and like their minions have nearly the exact same goals: Nicolae wants to kill everyone who doesn't worship him, as does Jesus. Nicolae wants to take over the world and establish a one-world religion comprised of people who worship him. Jesus also wants this (and gets this in the 13th book in the series "Kingdom Come"). The only difference between the two is power-levels, and it is a massive difference. Jesus is so powerful that he comes off as a literal GodModeSue, really powerful, while Nicolae is an IneffectualSympatheticVillain. Rather than choosing Jesus out of moral conviction, it seems quite likely that anybody who joins the 'good' side after the Rapture is simply joining the side that ''cannot lose,'' which is hardly proof of virtue.



** T. Mark Delanty from books 5/6/7 is also notable for two reasons. One, [[WhatTheHellHero he called Rayford out]] on being a total {{jerkass}} and got the man to admit he was wrong (this is a CanonSue he called out, by the way). Two, he's one of the few people in the books who actually comes off as genuinely good.

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** T. Mark Delanty from books 5/6/7 is also notable for two reasons. One, [[WhatTheHellHero he called Rayford out]] on being a total {{jerkass}} and got the man to admit he was wrong (this is a CanonSue he called out, by the way).wrong. Two, he's one of the few people in the books who actually comes off as genuinely good.



* MarySuetopia / CrapsaccharineWorld: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. Even non-believers can live for a hundred years in perfect health. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off if they fail. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky, and presumably sent to Hell immediately. From one line in Buck and Chloe's case, TrueBelievers might not even have a sex drive any more. Those that were Raptured or martyred during the tribulation are treated as some sort of ruling elite, with true immortality and superpowers above the others. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the devil-worshiping [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] [[CurbStompBattle Guess how that turned out!]]



** This is a problem with the series of books, as noted in the [[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/ Slacktivist blog deconstructing it]]. The main heroes are such {{Jerk Sue}}s that many of the people with whom they argue come off looking much better by comparison. For example, in the first chapter, a drunk Texan wakes up and sees the carnage wrought by the Rapture (plane crashes, etc). He is mocked as a silly drunk by the narrators, but he is ''[[OnlySaneMan the only one]]'' to express any sort of horror at the proceedings. In the next book, we are clearly supposed to cheer for the alleged hero as he is insubordinate to his boss -- whose main crime seems to be being a woman who does not fawn over him and expects him to do his job.

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** This is a problem with the series of books, as noted in the [[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/ Slacktivist blog deconstructing it]]. The main heroes are such {{Jerk Sue}}s jerks that many of the people with whom they argue come off looking much better by comparison. For example, in the first chapter, a drunk Texan wakes up and sees the carnage wrought by the Rapture (plane crashes, etc). He is mocked as a silly drunk by the narrators, but he is ''[[OnlySaneMan the only one]]'' to express any sort of horror at the proceedings. In the next book, we are clearly supposed to cheer for the alleged hero as he is insubordinate to his boss -- whose main crime seems to be being a woman who does not fawn over him and expects him to do his job.
29th Dec '15 6:21:57 AM Steinman76
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** This is more ValuesDissonance: to the writers, and many in their particular brand of Christianity, "intelligence and growing independence" are not positive qualities. Intellect is seen as an enemy of Faith (the books state this outright many times), and "independence" is seen as "willful disobedience".
14th Dec '15 1:59:39 PM Steinman76
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** At the end of ''Tribulation Force'' and the beginning of ''Nicolae: The Rise of Antichrist'', Nicolae ''finally'' does something properly evil by launching World War III. This takes the form of World War II-style bombing raids targeting such things as hospitals and airports...except that they use ''100-megaton nuclear bombs''. The largest human-caused explosion ''ever'' was [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba Tsar Bomba]], which was a mere ''50'' megatons, but it still destroyed buildings hundreds of kilometers away from the test site. If even ''one'' 100-megaton bomb was dropped on a city, let alone several, that city would not look like London during the blitz (which is what is shown in the book) but a green-glowing glass crater, and it wouldn't matter ''where'' it hit.
5th Nov '15 11:13:59 AM Silverblade2
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* IdiotPlot: All over the place.
** To explain: the series is meant to be a literal translation of The Revelation of St. John, as interpreted through the modern lens of the Rapture. Unfortunately, the Revelation of St. John wasn't written with anything resembling a modern story structure, much less [[CharacterDevelopment character arcs,]] and as a result the [[GainaxEnding story comes across as nonsensical]]. Characters react in [[CozyCatastrophe entirely]] [[EasyEvangelism unbelievable ways]], events happen for [[DeusExMachina seemingly no reason,]] and we are expected to root for (or against) characters [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality based entirely on which side they're fighting on]], [[MoralDissonance regardless of how they act]]. Is it any wonder that this book series isn't really liked outside of its target audience?

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* IdiotPlot: All over the place.
** To explain: the
The series is meant to be a literal translation of The Revelation of St. John, as interpreted through the modern lens of the Rapture. Unfortunately, the Revelation of St. John wasn't written with anything resembling a modern story structure, much less [[CharacterDevelopment character arcs,]] and as a result the [[GainaxEnding story comes across as nonsensical]]. Characters react in [[CozyCatastrophe entirely]] [[EasyEvangelism unbelievable ways]], events happen for [[DeusExMachina seemingly no reason,]] and we are expected to root for (or against) characters [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality based entirely on which side they're fighting on]], [[MoralDissonance regardless of how they act]]. Is it any wonder that this book series isn't really liked outside of its target audience?
10th Oct '15 6:39:55 PM twingle93
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* MarySuetopia / CrapsaccharineWorld: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. Even non-believers can live for a hundred years in perfect health. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky. From one line in Buck and Chloe's case, TrueBelievers might not even have a sexual any more. Those that were Raptured or martyred during the tribulation are treated as some sort of ruling elite, with true immortality and superpowers above the others. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] [[CurbStompBattle Guess how that turned out!]]

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* MarySuetopia / CrapsaccharineWorld: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. Even non-believers can live for a hundred years in perfect health. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off. off if they fail. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky. sky, and presumably sent to Hell immediately. From one line in Buck and Chloe's case, TrueBelievers might not even have a sexual sex drive any more. Those that were Raptured or martyred during the tribulation are treated as some sort of ruling elite, with true immortality and superpowers above the others. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the devil-worshiping [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] [[CurbStompBattle Guess how that turned out!]]
31st Jul '15 3:34:22 PM twingle93
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* MarySuetopia / Crapsaccharine World: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] [[CurbStompBattle Guess how that turned out!]]

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* MarySuetopia / Crapsaccharine World: CrapsaccharineWorld: Jesus Christ's Millennial Reign in ''Kingdom Come'' is a utopia for "naturals" [[ReligionIsRight as long as they obey God's laws]]. They have all the amenities of the technological world, have eternal life, perpetual sunshine, no war or violence. Even non-believers can live for a hundred years in perfect health. However, anyone who doesn't become saved by age 100 instantly die and go to Hell. Entire nations are held accountable for failing to give God His due, and their rain will be cut off. Serious criminals are killed by lightning bolts from the sky. From one line in Buck and Chloe's case, TrueBelievers might not even have a sexual any more. Those that were Raptured or martyred during the tribulation are treated as some sort of ruling elite, with true immortality and superpowers above the others. We never see people of any other religion or viewpoint other than the true believers and the [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]]. Over the course of time, the Other Light does manage to win enough converts with their manifesto claiming GodIsEvil because of his 100 years of age limit, so that the world at the end of the Millennium becomes a CrapsackWorld again, with the Other Light being a massive army ready to [[FinalBattle defeat God and Jesus Christ]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released.]] [[CurbStompBattle Guess how that turned out!]]
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