History YMMV / LeagueOfLegends

4th Dec '16 2:42:16 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** One can get a close-up of Swains Magnificent Bastardry through the Journal of Justice, just read a bit behind the lines and it's pretty clear that the entire Kalamada event was orchestrated by him. Much of this is speculation, but the signs are obvious if you know where to look:

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** One can get a close-up of Swains Swain's Magnificent Bastardry through the Journal of Justice, just read a bit behind the lines and it's pretty clear that the entire Kalamada event was orchestrated by him. Much of this is speculation, but the signs are obvious if you know where to look:
1st Dec '16 2:42:41 PM number9robotic
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B3JIL7xhjY A Champion Approaches.]]
** Several login themes qualify as well, most prominently the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78wQsnxmLAo Draven]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ajX6oFoegU Diana]] ones.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r03Q3gglV8 "Here Comes Vi"]] by Nicki Taylor.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1IKlWn3Kkk "The League Championship Series theme]] from Season 3.
** At the start of the Grand Finals for the Season 2 championship, Riot opened with a montage video set to a fully-orchestrated choral version of the main ''League of Legends'' theme- ''performed live by a full orchestra and choir!'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABUdHxt-0W0#t=0h0m18s For real.]] For added awesomeness, the lyrics are OminousLatinChanting about an epic battle between Demacia and Noxus.
** The Season 3 championship [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jugCIWHM6g#t=29 they went in a COMPLETELY different direction.]] And it was AWESOME.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_d-OLnRL7I "Battlecast Prime Cho'Gath's theme"]].
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlJuwO0GDs "Get Jinxed"]] caused the already high anticipation for Jinx to skyrocket. Case in point, the music video is the third most viewed video on the official Riot channel, after the first cinematic and Twist of Fate.
** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_khij4EV54 Super Galaxy Rumble]] login screen music.
** ''[[http://na.pentakillmusic.com/en/ Smite and Ignite]]'' by the Pentakill band (itself a skin line featuring a couple of champions) is the first official album Riot's ever released. They even had ''Jørn Lande'' sing as Karthus![[note]]As well as ZP Theart, but most people didn't notice[[/note]]
** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmI_Ndrxy14 Warriors]] music video, which serves as the Anthem for the 2014 World Championship, is already pretty awesome in it's own right. What makes it even more awesome? It was sung by the ''Music/ImagineDragons'', who themselves are pretty big fans of League. Riot sure know how to produce cool music!

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B3JIL7xhjY A Champion Approaches.]]
** Several login themes qualify as well, most prominently the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78wQsnxmLAo Draven]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ajX6oFoegU Diana]] ones.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r03Q3gglV8 "Here Comes Vi"]] by Nicki Taylor.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1IKlWn3Kkk "The League Championship Series theme]] from Season 3.
** At the start of the Grand Finals
SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: So much so, [[AwesomeMusic/LeagueOfLegends we had to make a page for the Season 2 championship, Riot opened with a montage video set to a fully-orchestrated choral version of the main ''League of Legends'' theme- ''performed live by a full orchestra and choir!'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABUdHxt-0W0#t=0h0m18s For real.]] For added awesomeness, the lyrics are OminousLatinChanting about an epic battle between Demacia and Noxus.
** The Season 3 championship [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jugCIWHM6g#t=29 they went in a COMPLETELY different direction.]] And it was AWESOME.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_d-OLnRL7I "Battlecast Prime Cho'Gath's theme"]].
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlJuwO0GDs "Get Jinxed"]] caused the already high anticipation for Jinx to skyrocket. Case in point, the music video is the third most viewed video on the official Riot channel, after the first cinematic and Twist of Fate.
** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_khij4EV54 Super Galaxy Rumble]] login screen music.
** ''[[http://na.pentakillmusic.com/en/ Smite and Ignite]]'' by the Pentakill band (itself a skin line featuring a couple of champions) is the first official album Riot's ever released. They even had ''Jørn Lande'' sing as Karthus![[note]]As well as ZP Theart, but most people didn't notice[[/note]]
** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmI_Ndrxy14 Warriors]] music video, which serves as the Anthem for the 2014 World Championship, is already pretty awesome in it's own right. What makes it even more awesome? It was sung by the ''Music/ImagineDragons'', who themselves are pretty big fans of League. Riot sure know how to produce cool music!
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30th Nov '16 7:49:52 PM number9robotic
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*** A good example of crossing this threshold of breaching gameplay identity for balance came from the pre-season 7 Assassin Rework that saw changes to [=LeBlanc=], who was considered pretty unhealthy due to her instant burst damage, so the rework gave her changes gave her opponents more of an opportunity for counterplay/escape in exchange for larger innate power, as well as emphasizing ConfusionFu (she is ''The Deceiver,'' after all). [=LeBlanc=] mains were not happy, because this [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment supposedly]] removed both her assassin status (turning her into a more planning control mage), her signature instant-burst damage that had been so closely associated with the character, and ultimately making her feel clunkier. The backlash of fans blaming the balancing team for "just being lazy by completely butchering her gameplay for the sake of not making her burst damage nastier" ([[BrokenBase which fans are really broken as to whether it actually is unhealthy as the balance team says or not]]) is the exact reason why they have to be so careful designing unhealthy champions, as well as why they take so long.

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*** A good example of crossing this threshold of breaching gameplay identity for balance came from the pre-season 7 Assassin Rework that saw changes to [=LeBlanc=], who was considered pretty unhealthy due to her instant burst damage, so the rework gave her changes gave her opponents more of an opportunity for counterplay/escape in exchange for larger innate power, as well as emphasizing ConfusionFu (she is ''The Deceiver,'' after all). [=LeBlanc=] mains were not happy, because this [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment supposedly]] removed both her assassin status (turning her into a more planning control mage), her signature instant-burst damage that had been so closely associated with the character, character (despite being noted as one of the reasons for the rework in the first place), and ultimately making her feel clunkier. The backlash of fans blaming the balancing team for "just being lazy by completely butchering her gameplay for the sake of not making her burst damage nastier" 'unhealthy'" ([[BrokenBase which fans are really broken as to split on whether it she actually is unhealthy as the balance team says had that big problems or even if she needed a rework or not]]) is the exact reason why they have Riot has to be so careful designing unhealthy champions, as well as why they take so long.
30th Nov '16 7:46:45 PM number9robotic
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The splash arts have had a bit of a bad history in terms of smoking. After [[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iv0-YtMia0E/maxresdefault.jpg Graves' splash art update]] [[CigarChomper added in him smoking a cigar]], a small, but well-received tidbit fitting for the character, fans went into an uproar [[http://apollo-na-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/1415393257004/GravesNocigar.jpg when it was suddenly removed]] due to ValuesDissonance in a few countries regarding tobacco. Coming from a series that has much darker concepts, fans were quick to point out the hypocrisy to [[Memes/LeagueOfLegends meme status]] (especially confusing since Gragas' "Gragas Esq." skin features Gragas smoking a cigar that still remains).
** For a few days after patch 6.7, due to the global splash unification (some splash arts were inconsistent, mainly in China), [[https://images-2.discordapp.net/.eJwFwUESgyAMAMC_8ABilGDivae-gkEKzqgwkJ46_bu7P_Ptp9lMUW1jA9iPEWvf7dDaQ04215rPFNoxbKwXBNUQy5VuHYCIi5dlRSbniRwzoPfCzOhoFZmdCMGnzFN7vW27s_k_AtAiJw.-UGmP2p1Hw0sEsQwf1vqsxLZ3no.png the new "standard" splash art for Gentleman Cho'Gath]] received arguably worse treatment, [[https://images-1.discordapp.net/.eJwFwcENwyAMAMBdGADjAq6TCSplgXwRoQQpAQTuq-ruvfuqz7jUqk6RPleAo8zYxqGntBFy0rm1fKXQy9Sx3RBEQjzvVGUCIlpa7BPZO_LeMQMSLcxsH8Z5Y4i9gf1d9_LadK9Z_f4DpiJY.emVTp3vEJLZuIdQ8K4Uc4-ZlW3s.png removing not only his pipe, but also the wine in his glass]] (as in, not the whole wine glass, just the wine). The wine change was arguably more confusing since [[TheAlcoholic Gragas]] still exists in the game, freely drinking booze ''[[BoozeBasedBuff as a gameplay mechanic.]]'' A few days later, however, [[AuthorsSavingThrow it was reverted to giving back the wine and pipe,]] [[https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ccy5Wy_rmF8/VwaqVJRPvdI/AAAAAAAANPw/G4jXSQOzffsVsRpdDLs-zyKeNKBxTYo2g/s1600/Chogath_Splash_2.jpg the only change is now the lack of smoke from his pipe and mouth.]]

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
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The splash arts have had a bit of a bad history in terms of smoking. After [[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iv0-YtMia0E/maxresdefault.jpg Graves' splash art update]] [[CigarChomper added in him smoking a cigar]], a small, but well-received tidbit fitting for the character, fans went into an uproar [[http://apollo-na-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/1415393257004/GravesNocigar.jpg when it was suddenly removed]] due to ValuesDissonance in a few countries regarding tobacco. Coming from a series that has much darker concepts, fans were quick to point out the hypocrisy to [[Memes/LeagueOfLegends meme status]] (especially confusing since Gragas' "Gragas Esq." skin features Gragas smoking a cigar that still remains).
** *** For a few days after patch 6.7, due to the global splash unification (some splash arts were inconsistent, mainly in China), [[https://images-2.discordapp.net/.eJwFwUESgyAMAMC_8ABilGDivae-gkEKzqgwkJ46_bu7P_Ptp9lMUW1jA9iPEWvf7dDaQ04215rPFNoxbKwXBNUQy5VuHYCIi5dlRSbniRwzoPfCzOhoFZmdCMGnzFN7vW27s_k_AtAiJw.-UGmP2p1Hw0sEsQwf1vqsxLZ3no.png the new "standard" splash art for Gentleman Cho'Gath]] received arguably worse treatment, [[https://images-1.discordapp.net/.eJwFwcENwyAMAMBdGADjAq6TCSplgXwRoQQpAQTuq-ruvfuqz7jUqk6RPleAo8zYxqGntBFy0rm1fKXQy9Sx3RBEQjzvVGUCIlpa7BPZO_LeMQMSLcxsH8Z5Y4i9gf1d9_LadK9Z_f4DpiJY.emVTp3vEJLZuIdQ8K4Uc4-ZlW3s.png removing not only his pipe, but also the wine in his glass]] (as in, not the whole wine glass, just the wine). The wine change was arguably more confusing since [[TheAlcoholic Gragas]] still exists in the game, freely drinking booze ''[[BoozeBasedBuff as a gameplay mechanic.]]'' A few days later, however, [[AuthorsSavingThrow it was reverted to giving back the wine and pipe,]] [[https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ccy5Wy_rmF8/VwaqVJRPvdI/AAAAAAAANPw/G4jXSQOzffsVsRpdDLs-zyKeNKBxTYo2g/s1600/Chogath_Splash_2.jpg the only change is now the lack of smoke from his pipe and mouth.]]]]
** Riot is completely aware of this trope and constantly keeps it in mind while designing the game itself. With major champions reworks especially, which are necessary to fix unhealthy or outdated champions, Riot has to tiptoe around making an actually functional kit for the character while also preserving their character, which include [[SignatureMove signature mechanics]] or general gameplay feels, regardless of how problematic they can be. The most egregious case is Soraka, [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness a very early champion]] whose kit is built almost entirely around [[WhiteMage healing]], which turns out to be a massive balancing nightmare in the long-run. Unfortunately, they can't remove her healing since it's so core to her character, and while tweaks and reworks have been made, it still remains, and she may never reach a decently balanced state because that's her entire gameplay identity.
*** A good example of crossing this threshold of breaching gameplay identity for balance came from the pre-season 7 Assassin Rework that saw changes to [=LeBlanc=], who was considered pretty unhealthy due to her instant burst damage, so the rework gave her changes gave her opponents more of an opportunity for counterplay/escape in exchange for larger innate power, as well as emphasizing ConfusionFu (she is ''The Deceiver,'' after all). [=LeBlanc=] mains were not happy, because this [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment supposedly]] removed both her assassin status (turning her into a more planning control mage), her signature instant-burst damage that had been so closely associated with the character, and ultimately making her feel clunkier. The backlash of fans blaming the balancing team for "just being lazy by completely butchering her gameplay for the sake of not making her burst damage nastier" ([[BrokenBase which fans are really broken as to whether it actually is unhealthy as the balance team says or not]]) is the exact reason why they have to be so careful designing unhealthy champions, as well as why they take so long.
27th Nov '16 4:13:42 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* HilariousInHindsight: Kha'Zix is an Film/{{Alien}} Expy whose primary damaging spell is heavily reliant on an isolation mechanic. Kha'Zix was released in 2012, but [[VideoGame/AlienIsolation fast forward to 2014]]...
** One of Dunkmaster Darius's opening lines is "I don't need a buzzer to tell me when to start dominating." Following his rework, his passive makes him tremendously powerful when it triggers. Which, on this skin, is signaled by a loud buzzer.
** There's a custom mod that can turn Leona into [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Saber]]. In the Japanese server, she would be voice by Creator/AyakoKawasumi, Saber's voice actress.


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* HilariousInHindsight: Kha'Zix is an Film/{{Alien}} Expy whose primary damaging spell is heavily reliant on an isolation mechanic. Kha'Zix was released in 2012, but [[VideoGame/AlienIsolation fast forward to 2014]]...
** One of Dunkmaster Darius's opening lines is "I don't need a buzzer to tell me when to start dominating." Following his rework, his passive makes him tremendously powerful when it triggers. Which, on this skin, is signaled by a loud buzzer.
** There's a custom mod that can turn Leona into [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Saber]]. In the Japanese server, she would be voiced by Creator/AyakoKawasumi, Saber's voice actress.
16th Nov '16 12:32:42 PM number9robotic
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*** There was a debate in the League of Legends subreddit around late Season 6 about [[https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/5cupmb/2_million_mastery_point_smite_support_singed/ a player who played Singed (normally a top laner) as a support with Smite (a jungling-summoner spell), who was on the threat of being permabanned for refusing to communicate with his teams about his unorthodox strategy (often leaving his lane ADC and not building typical support items the team needed), despite having over 2 million mastery points and a 53% win rate]]. Redditors have been debating whether this is inherently punishable by banning and whether people can be allowed to break these expected, but not set-in-stone guidelines in the way this player has done. [[http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/79aGu3wR-support-singed-isnt-banable-but-thats-not-the-point Words from Riot's Arbiters have done little to settle the debate.]]
10th Nov '16 6:01:02 PM number9robotic
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* CasualCompetitiveConflict: As with many other [[MultiplayerOnlineBattleArena [=MOBAs=],]] there is a ''huge'' disparity between casual to competitive to professional levels due to how the game is designed around communication, coordination and understanding of an absolutely gargantuan ever-changing meta. One major reason for the game's notoriously toxic fanbase is due to the difference in levels of understanding players have of the game, and when a disagreement in decision-making inevitably happens in-game because of it, well, [[ThisIsGonnaSuck it's gonna suck.]]

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* CasualCompetitiveConflict: As with many other [[MultiplayerOnlineBattleArena [=MOBAs=],]] there is a ''huge'' disparity between casual to competitive to professional levels due to how the game is designed around communication, coordination and understanding of an absolutely gargantuan ever-changing meta. One major reason for the game's notoriously toxic fanbase is due to the wildly-varying difference in levels of understanding players have of the game, and when a disagreement in decision-making inevitably happens in-game because of it, well, [[ThisIsGonnaSuck it's gonna suck.]]
10th Nov '16 5:55:15 PM number9robotic
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* CasualCompetitiveConflict: There is a ''huge'' disparity between casual to competitive to professional levels due to how the game is designed around communication and coordination, and a big problem Riot has to face is appealing to all of them, which considering how certain champions/mechanics are garbage in solo queue and even most ranked situations but incredibly valuable to high-level professional play and vice versa, is very difficult to do, making balancing very difficult. Typically, however, Riot seems to favor the competitive side as a higher priority for balancing; it's not uncommon for certain DifficultButAwesome champions reaching 40% win-rates in solo queue still seeing nerfs because they're actually incredibly dominant in professional play.

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* CasualCompetitiveConflict: There As with many other [[MultiplayerOnlineBattleArena [=MOBAs=],]] there is a ''huge'' disparity between casual to competitive to professional levels due to how the game is designed around communication communication, coordination and coordination, understanding of an absolutely gargantuan ever-changing meta. One major reason for the game's notoriously toxic fanbase is due to the difference in levels of understanding players have of the game, and when a disagreement in decision-making inevitably happens in-game because of it, well, [[ThisIsGonnaSuck it's gonna suck.]]
** Additionally,
a big problem Riot has to face is to figure out how to appealing to all of them, both bases mechanically, which considering how certain champions/mechanics are considered garbage in solo queue and even most ranked situations but incredibly valuable to high-level professional play and vice versa, is very difficult to do, making balancing very difficult. risky. Typically, however, Riot seems to favor the competitive side as a higher priority for balancing; it's not uncommon for certain DifficultButAwesome champions reaching 40% win-rates in solo queue still seeing nerfs because they're actually incredibly dominant in professional play.play when played by actual professionals.
10th Nov '16 2:53:15 PM number9robotic
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* CasualCompetitiveConflict: There is a ''huge'' disparity between casual to competitive to professional levels due to how the game is designed around communication and coordination, and a big problem Riot has to face is appealing to all of them, which considering how certain champions/mechanics are garbage in solo queue and even most ranked situations but incredibly valuable to high-level professional play and vice versa, is very difficult to do, making balancing very difficult. Typically, however, Riot seems to favor the competitive side as a higher priority for balancing; it's not uncommon for certain DifficultButAwesome champions reaching 40% win-rates in solo queue still seeing nerfs because they're actually incredibly dominant in professional play.
9th Nov '16 10:51:51 PM Aker-Sama
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** [[JackassGenie Tahm Kench, the River King]]: A hedonistic water demon with an insatiable hunger, Tahm Kench lurks in Bilgewater's rivers and seas, stalking desperate individuals to make his next victim. Tahm Kench uses his [[FauxAffablyEvil charm]] to entice his victims into accepting his bargains before whisking them away to find fame and fortune... before coming back and eventually taking back everything they hold dear. While Tahm Kench's hunger yields [[ExtremeOmnivore no limits]], his favorite dish is [[EmotionEater the despair and regret that seethes out of those that dare bargain with him.]] In his teaser trailer, Tahm Kench recounts a time where he tempted a gambler who eventually struck rich and was to be married to a princess, only for Tahm to return years later and snap up everything, from the wedding gifts, to the buffet, to his wealth, right in front of him. As he tricks the gambler's bride to let her guard down, he brutally devours her as well and mocks the gambler for being foolish enough to trust him. His in-game taunts are also [[KickTheDog particularly cruel and below-the-belt]], mocking his enemies for the errors of their past, while tempting his allies to accept one of his ill-fated deals. Living only to satisfy his bottomless stomach, Tahm Kench has terrorized Runeterra since ancient times, pulling the same trick over and over again, and his silver tongue conceals a pitch black heart.
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