History YMMV / LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit

12th Mar '17 6:43:44 AM Laina
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Earlier episodes that used words like "tranny" or "transvestite" to refer to transgendered people can be seen as this. One such episode "Lowdown" featured the words used prominently...and was aired in 2004, before it became clear that these words hurt.

to:

** Earlier episodes that used words like "tranny" or "transvestite" to refer to transgendered transgender people can be seen as this. One such episode "Lowdown" featured the words used prominently...and was aired in 2004, before it became clear that these words hurt.



** Darius from "Transgender Bridge" True, he didn't mean to kill the victim, and he was genuinely remorseful afterward, but the fact that, for whatever reason, he deliberately set out to assault a transgendered kid for being transgendered doesn't win him a lot of sympathy. In the end, the judge's ruling, finding him guilty of a hate crime and sentencing him to seven years in prison, is correct given that even the defense expert's testimony ultimately supports the finding that Darius assaulted the victim out of transphobic bias.

to:

** Darius from "Transgender Bridge" True, he didn't mean to kill the victim, and he was genuinely remorseful afterward, but the fact that, for whatever reason, he deliberately set out to assault a transgendered transgender kid for being transgendered transgender doesn't win him a lot of sympathy. In the end, the judge's ruling, finding him guilty of a hate crime and sentencing him to seven years in prison, is correct given that even the defense expert's testimony ultimately supports the finding that Darius assaulted the victim out of transphobic bias.
8th Mar '17 7:32:03 PM creader
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** from "Reasonable Doubt". It's left ambiguous if whether her father did sexually abuse her or if her mother coached her to say that he did. Either way her life is still tragic with whatever scenario really happened -- She will have to live with the intense guilt over indirectly causing her father to flee the U.S. because her selfish mother couldn't stand him or face the trauma of her father's sexual abuse and come to the haunting realization that her mother probably saw her daughter's abuse as a way to get rid of him. Olivia's last line in the episode is even "God help that child".

to:

** Chelsea Maddox from "Reasonable Doubt". It's left ambiguous if whether her father did sexually abuse her or if her mother coached her to say that he did. Either way her life is still tragic with whatever scenario really happened -- She will have to live with the intense guilt over indirectly causing her father to flee the U.S. because her selfish mother couldn't stand him or face the trauma of her father's sexual abuse and come to the haunting realization that her mother probably saw her daughter's abuse as a way to get rid of him. Olivia's last line in the episode is even "God help that child".
8th Mar '17 7:30:53 PM creader
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** from "Reasonable Doubt". It's left ambiguous if whether her father did sexually abuse her or if her mother coached her to say that he did. Either way her life is still tragic with whatever scenario really happened -- She will have to live with the intense guilt over indirectly causing her father to flee the U.S. because her selfish mother couldn't stand him or face the trauma of her father's sexual abuse and come to the haunting realization that her mother probably saw her daughter's abuse as a way to get rid of him. Olivia's last line in the episode is even "God help that child".
8th Mar '17 5:33:41 PM DrOO7
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** The episode "Gone", based on the Natalee Holloway case, had three suspects, much like the RealLife case did at the time the episode aired. In the episode, all three are guilty, but it's the two cousins who are worse and end up also killing their accomplice, who has regrets and wants to confess. In RealLife, the exact opposite happened. The two brothers were eventually determined to have nothing to do with Holloway's disappearance--even her killer stated as such when confessing.
8th Mar '17 4:50:25 PM PrincessSolarFlare
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Earlier episodes that used words like "tranny" or "transvestite" to refer to transgendered people can be seen as this. One such episode "Lowdown" featured the words used prominently...and was aired in 2004, before it became clear that these words hurt.
6th Mar '17 3:35:56 AM MagBas
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Probably the one with the most UnfortunateImplications involved being "Snitch", where the leader of a gang apparently killed the underage wife of a witness going to testify against him in an upcoming murder trial. When he starts using intimidation tactics to keep the man silent, he's accused of witness tampering. Confronted, he argues just how many times the police have compelled testimonies from criminals in exchange for commuted sentences or have threatened jail time if a witness didn't cooperate. SVU has threatened to and (though very reluctant) thrown rape/abuse victims into lock up. They also have a very nasty track record of making DealWithTheDevil all in order to get the bigger fish.

to:

** Probably the one with the most UnfortunateImplications involved being "Snitch", where the leader of a gang apparently killed the underage wife of a witness going to testify against him in an upcoming murder trial. When he starts using intimidation tactics to keep the man silent, he's accused of witness tampering. Confronted, he argues just how many times the police have compelled testimonies from criminals in exchange for commuted sentences or have threatened jail time if a witness didn't cooperate. SVU has threatened to and (though very reluctant) thrown rape/abuse victims into lock up. They also have a very nasty track record of making DealWithTheDevil all in order to get the bigger fish.



%%* UnfortunateImplications: The female game developer in "Intimidation Game" appears to be of Indian descent and is named Rena Punjabi. Punjabi is a word used to refer to people from the Punjab region of India, and is considered a racial slur. It's basically the equivalent of naming an Asian character "Jap".
26th Feb '17 10:38:57 AM WaggishPony
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Casey Novak was ''not'' warmly welcomed by all corners of the fandom. However, as the show went on and Casey began to prove that she was, in fact, a fairly awesome character in her own right, most fans warmed up to her; they still bemoaned Cabot's departure, but not because they disliked Casey, who is now generally considered the second-best ADA the show has ever had.

to:

** Casey Novak was ''not'' warmly welcomed by all corners of the fandom. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap However, as the show went on and Casey began to prove that she was, in fact, a fairly awesome character in her own right, most fans warmed up to her; they still bemoaned Cabot's departure, but not because they disliked Casey, who is now generally considered the second-best ADA the show has ever had.]]
10th Feb '17 8:58:43 PM creader
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Yeah, nice job sharing your personal opinions about a perp within earshot of a man with mental issues, Beck.



* RecycledScript: SVU has a nasty habit of doing this with the [[LawAndOrder original]] and then adding TheUnfairSex aspects to the plot. For example the episode "Bitter Fruit" a young girl is kidnapped between school and her music lesson and later killed. While it was questionable exactly who did it due to the fact that they both were {{Jerkass}}es. In the end it turns out it was the mother and while she tried to [[NeverMyFault blame her ex husband]] she was given the maximum sentence. However “Shattered” had the exact same plot only they eliminated all of the ex husbands jerkassiness while transforming the mother into [[StrawFeminist the biggest Misandrist that they possibly could]]. It turns out that it was the father who kidnapped his son even though [[AssPull that made absolutely no sense]].



* ShipSinking: [[spoiler:Many Fin/Amanda and Benson/Amaro shippers regard the Amaro/Rollins hookup as this.]]



* [[UnresolvedSexualTension [=UST=]]]: Alex and Olivia. Oh, so very, ''very'' much.
** Casey and Olivia, as well. Decidedly more blatant because Casey as a character was more touchy-feely than Alex, and arguably teased as bisexual in the first couple of episodes.
** Also with Benson and Stabler.
14th Nov '16 10:55:10 PM PurpleAlert
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Hailey in "Transitions" is meant to be seen as a struggling child fighting for the right to be herself, but Hailey is confrontational, out of control, irrational, and violent against just about everyone in her life whether they mean her any harm or not, and she's openly proud of it. Her problems might be exacerbated by her situation, but they don't have anything to do with her gender, and although her mom and dad are a bit clueless and struggling with denial respectively, they don't stop her from living and dressing as a girl. Jackie Blaine is in a similar boat, since she basically tried to kill Hailey's father in revenge for an assault she suffered years ago that had absolutely nothing to do with him, with the excuse that she was protecting Hailey from his "abuse". The abuse in question? Carrying a picture of his own kid in his wallet. After [[TearJerker the godawful nightmare that Cheryl Avery went through]], hearing a twelve-year-old brat congratulate herself for giving her mother a black eye for catching her sneaking into the house at two in the morning just doesn't work.

to:

* ** Hailey in "Transitions" is meant to be seen as a struggling child fighting for the right to be herself, but Hailey is confrontational, out of control, irrational, and violent against just about everyone in her life whether they mean her any harm or not, and she's openly proud of it. Her problems might be exacerbated by her situation, but they don't have anything to do with her gender, and although her mom and dad are a bit clueless and struggling with denial respectively, they don't stop her from living and dressing as a girl. Jackie Blaine is in a similar boat, since she basically tried to kill Hailey's father in revenge for an assault she suffered years ago that had absolutely nothing to do with him, with the excuse that she was protecting Hailey from his "abuse". The abuse in question? Carrying a picture of his own kid in his wallet. After [[TearJerker the godawful nightmare that Cheryl Avery went through]], hearing a twelve-year-old brat congratulate herself for giving her mother a black eye for catching her sneaking into the house at two in the morning just doesn't work.


Added DiffLines:

** Megan Ramsay from "Repression". It's not her fault that her therapist essentially convinced her she had been abused by her father through a combination of drugs and badgering, but she started seeing that therapist because of her drug abuse, for which her rich parents cut her off and kicked her out of the house. The abuse never happened and her father ends up dead over it, but Megan gets exactly what she wanted from the beginning, and whatever problems she had before meeting the therapist are never addressed. With Megan deliberately fabricating evidence against her father, it's easy to read the situation as Megan throwing her dad under the bus to get back in her wealthy mother's good graces.
14th Nov '16 9:54:13 PM PurpleAlert
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* Hailey in "Transitions" is meant to be seen as a struggling child fighting for the right to be herself, but Hailey is confrontational, out of control, irrational, and violent against just about everyone in her life whether they mean her any harm or not, and she's openly proud of it. Her problems might be exacerbated by her situation, but they don't have anything to do with her gender, and although her mom and dad are a bit clueless and struggling with denial respectively, they don't stop her from living and dressing as a girl. Jackie Blaine is in a similar boat, since she basically tried to kill Hailey's father in revenge for an assault she suffered years ago that had absolutely nothing to do with him, with the excuse that she was protecting Hailey from his "abuse". The abuse in question? Carrying a picture of his own kid in his wallet. After [[TearJerker the godawful nightmare that Cheryl Avery went through]], hearing a twelve-year-old brat congratulate herself for giving her mother a black eye for catching her sneaking into the house at two in the morning just doesn't work.
This list shows the last 10 events of 354. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit