History YMMV / LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit

6th Dec '17 3:51:41 PM RoseAndHeather
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Originally, Carisi was highly unpopular, given how he was seen as TheGenericGuy in comparison to popular characters like Munch, Stabler, and Amaro. As his time on the show increased, however, he was given a ShipTease with Rollins, a VitriolicBestBuds chemistry with Barba, and a reputation as a [[NiceGuy gentle Italian boy from Staten Island]], and is now fairly popular within the fandom. Peter Scanavino's [[PrettyBoy good looks]] don't hurt, either.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap:
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Originally, Carisi was highly unpopular, given how he was seen as TheGenericGuy in comparison to popular characters like Munch, Stabler, and Amaro. As his time on the show increased, however, he was given a ShipTease with Rollins, a VitriolicBestBuds chemistry with Barba, and a reputation as a [[NiceGuy gentle Italian boy from Staten Island]], and is now fairly popular within the fandom. Peter Scanavino's [[PrettyBoy good looks]] don't hurt, either.either.
** As mentioned above, Casey Novak was initially vilified for the crime of [[ReplacementScrappy not being Alex]], but as the show went on, fans really warmed up to her, and she is now one of only three truly beloved [=ADAs=] in the show's history, along with Cabot and Barba.



** Carisi. Following fan-favorites like Munch and Cragen, he was bound to have a hard time being endeared to fans, but even after he's been on awhile, he doesn't have that many fans of his own, although he got [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap redeemed]] as of Season 18.

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** Carisi. Following fan-favorites like Munch and Cragen, he was bound to have a hard time being endeared endearing himself to fans, but even after he's been on awhile, fans. After some serious CharacterDevelopment and the chance for the show to actually give his character some depth, he got much more popular and is now very well-liked. (Also, Peter Scanavino is really, ''really'' pretty, which doesn't have that many fans of his own, although he got [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap redeemed]] as of Season 18.hurt things one bit.)
6th Dec '17 3:32:19 PM RoseAndHeather
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* FanPreferredCouple: There are different ones depending on what side of the fandom one is on. But Elliot/Olivia (called E/O) is the most popular het ship and Alex/Olivia (called A/O) is popular with femslashers. On a different note, [[CrackShip Barba/Carisi]], or Barisi, is the most popular slash ship.

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* FanPreferredCouple: There are different ones depending on what side of the fandom one is on. But Elliot/Olivia (called E/O) is the most popular het ship and Alex/Olivia (called A/O) is popular with femslashers. On a different note, [[CrackShip Barba/Carisi]], or Barisi, is the most popular slash ship. ship, while Barson (Barba/Benson) is the most popular post-Stabler het ship.



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* PortmanteauCoupleName:PortmanteauCoupleName: A whole slew of them.
** Bensler for Olivia Benson/Elliot Stabler.



** Rolivia for Amanda Rollins/Olivia Benson.
** Rollisi for Amanda Rollins/Dominick Carisi.
** Calex for Casey Novak/Alex Cabot.
** Cabenson for Alex Cabot/Olivia Benson.
** And those are just the most popular ones....



* SeasonalRot: The show suffered heavily from this, although it's very much a YMMV on when this set in. There was some rumbling of it when Alex Cabot left the show, quite a bit more when Casey Novak went out on an IdiotBall / HonorBeforeReason note, and the rot was unquestionably in swing by the infamous "monkey basketball" episode, which was possibly the nadir of the entire L&O franchise. The show recovered quite a bit in Season 13 (see GrowingTheBeard, above) with a new showrunner taking over and the introduction of new detectives Amaro and Rollins, both of whom seem specifically written to avoid or subvert the ItsPersonal cliches that the show had been heavily criticized for.... but come Season 15, many were complaining that the quality had deteriorated, with soap-operaish plots for Rollins, Amaro, and Benson taking the place of courtroom scenes, which meant fans saw little of the one almost universally loved character. The Lewis arc was heavily criticized too, with many seeing it as using rape for a cheap ratings boost. Seasons 16 and 17 received well or with mixed reviews from the fandom, but, after a shift in showrunners, season 18 was received...poorly.

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* SeasonalRot: The show suffered heavily from this, although it's very much a YMMV on when this set in. There was some rumbling of it when Alex Cabot left the show, quite a bit more when Casey Novak went out on an IdiotBall / HonorBeforeReason note, and the rot was unquestionably in swing by the infamous "monkey basketball" episode, which was possibly the nadir of the entire L&O franchise. The show recovered quite a bit in Season 13 (see GrowingTheBeard, above) with a new showrunner taking over and the introduction of new detectives Amaro and Rollins, both of whom seem specifically written to avoid or subvert the ItsPersonal cliches that the show had been heavily criticized for.... but come Season 15, many were complaining that the quality had deteriorated, with soap-operaish plots for Rollins, Amaro, and Benson taking the place of courtroom scenes, which meant fans saw little of the one almost universally loved character. The Lewis arc was heavily criticized too, with many seeing it as using rape for a cheap ratings boost. Seasons 16 and 17 received well or with mixed reviews from the fandom, but, after a shift in showrunners, season 18 was received...poorly. poorly. So they changed showrunners again for season 19.
16th Nov '17 12:53:07 PM profviral
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** Everett Drake from the episode "Taboo" as he did nothing illegal while yes he did sleep with his own daughter no matter how {{squick}}y it is it wasn't illegal as they were both adults, but despite this the detectives still try to go after him and by the end the only time he admits to anything illegal is when he's lying to protect his daughter.
*** In New York it is illegal to engage in any kind of sex conduct with persons whom they know to be related to them, whether through marriage or not, descendant or ancestor,brother or sister, whole or half blood, uncle, nephew, aunt, or niece. However, it is classified as incest in the third degree, class e non-violent felony in which the maximum is a prison sentence of one year.

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** Everett Drake from the episode "Taboo" as he did nothing illegal while illegal. While, yes he did sleep with his own daughter daughter, no matter how {{squick}}y it is it wasn't illegal as they were both adults, but despite this the detectives still try to go after him and by the end the only time he admits to anything illegal is when he's lying to protect his daughter.
*** In New York it is illegal Drake torpedoes his entire career as a politician, claiming to engage have coerced his daughter into a relationship, in any kind order to ensure Ella would get her psych defense. Because Benson [[spoiler: can't let go that maybe Ella wasn't being manipulated by her father, she learns the truth about Ella's first child, and once she's out of sex conduct the psych ward, can be charged with persons whom they know their murder]]. Even then, Benson and Novak serve Drake an injuction trying to be related keep him from ever seeing [[spoiler: his child again due to them, whether through marriage or not, descendant or ancestor,brother or sister, whole or half blood, uncle, nephew, aunt, or niece. However, it is classified as incest in their disapproval of the third degree, class e non-violent felony in which the maximum is a prison sentence incest. Despite Drake's prior claims that he would've legally taken care of one year.Ella and their son if he had known of her pregnancy, his son's taken away to social services instead of being able to adopt him]].
16th Nov '17 8:03:38 AM profviral
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*** In New York it is illegal to engage in any kind of sex conduct with persons whom they know to be related to them, whether through marriage or not, descendant or ancestor,brother or sister, whole or half blood, uncle, nephew, aunt, or niece. However, it is classified as incest in the third degree, class e non-violent felony in which the maximum is a prison sentence of one year.
14th Oct '17 9:49:34 AM MyLittleXero
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** Similar to the above is Meredith Rice from the episode "Head". Her case was also rather disturbing (as she engaged in a sexual relationship with a twelve-year-old student of hers as well as with other boys [[spoiler: and ended up pregnant by the first boy]]), but she ended up only engaging in this shocking behavior due to having a brain tumor. Even as she was HappilyMarried with a loving stepson and a respected school principal and she knew how wrong it was since she was molested by her grandfather as a child, [=SVU=] and Casey were more than happy to label her a predator and refused to even take the ramifications of the disease into consideration.
9th Oct '17 1:30:42 PM dbdude01
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* CluelessAesop: The episode "Gray" started with a college girl accusing a male classmate of raping her while she was drunk, the man said she consented and didn't remember the next day because she was drunk. This gave Olivia the opportunity to lecture the squad that if a woman has been drinking, it's rape (seriously how does this woman have a badge?) and that if a man is equally drunk [[DoubleStandard it's still the man's responsibility not to take advantage of her]]. The episode was set up to be an episode-long AuthorTract about drunken he-said-she-said rape cases, but then the investigation went on a tangent, it turned out that the man got his girlfriend pregnant and then caused her to have a miscarriage by using an abortive agent as a sexual lubricant. When the case went to trial, the defense attorney asked the judge to recuse herself because of her bias involving cases with "this type of victim". The judge then went to the reluctant witness victim to [[AuthorFilibuster tell her own story]] about how she was raped and no one took her seriously. This speech might have been perfectly in place in many other episodes of the series, it might have even made sense to have the judge give this speech to the first victim who accused the man of rape, but by this point in the story everyone had forgotten about her. The victim the judge gave the speech to wasn't raped, in fact she was the one girl everyone knew for certain had consensual sex with the perpetrator. So the judge had no reason to recuse herself, her speech to the victim was weirdly out of place, and the perpetrator was never punished for anything he did to the first victim, in fact they never really proved his version of events wasn't the truth. A lesson in the importance of believing women who say they were raped was not learned.
8th Oct '17 5:04:23 PM DrPsyche
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** The so-called victims of "Quickie" and "Bang" both groups of women took NeverMyFault UpToEleven. In "Quickie" the women were supposed to be victims because one HIV positive man was having unprotected sex with as many women as possible. While having unprotected sex without warning your partner that you are HIV positive is a prosecutable crime, that does not change the fact that all of his partners chose to have consensual, unprotected sex with a complete stranger because apparently this show exists in a universe where women don't know about sexually transmitted diseases. The women certainly didn't have the right to throw acid in his face. In "Bang" one man was having sex with as many women as possible and poking holes in the condoms so they would get pregnant, which made the women victims who were stuck with children they didn't want. Even condom wrappers warn users that condoms aren't 100% effective and recommend using additional birth control, which none of these women did, nor did they use the morning-after pill after the condoms broke. These women are made even less sympathetic by the fact that they thought the man's explanation for all the broken condoms "our condoms break because we have so much fun in bed" was plausible. Apparently this show also takes place in a universe where women don't understand how condoms are supposed to work. In both cases Benson and Stabler were determined to arrest the men before they had a shred of evidence that either had committed a crime. It seems Benson and Stabler believe that any man with a high number of sexual partners [[SexIsEvil must be guilty of something]].
16th Sep '17 4:05:56 PM dbdude01
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** The so-called victims of "Quickie" and "Bang" both groups of women took NeverMyFault UpToEleven. In "Quickie" the women were supposed to be victims because one HIV positive man was having unprotected sex with as many women as possible. While having unprotected sex without warning your partner that you are HIV positive is a prosecutable crime, that does not change the fact that all of his partners chose to have consensual, unprotected sex with a complete stranger because apparently this show exists in a universe where women don't know about sexually transmitted diseases. The women certainly didn't have the right to throw acid in his face. In "Bang" one man was having sex with as many women as possible and poking holes in the condoms so they would get pregnant, which made the women victims who were stuck with children they didn't want. Even condom wrappers warn users that condoms aren't 100% effective and recommend using additional birth control, which none of these women did, nor did they use the morning-after pill after the condoms broke. These women are made even less sympathetic by the fact that they thought the man's explanation for all the broken condoms "our condoms break because we have so much fun in bed" was plausible. Apparently this show also takes place in a universe where women don't understand how condoms are supposed to work. In both cases Benson and Stabler were determined to arrest the men before they had a shred of evidence that either had committed a crime. It seems Benson and Stabler believe that any man with a high number of sexual partners [[SexIsEvil must be guilty of something]].
13th Sep '17 4:52:53 PM Erin582
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** Similar to the above is Meredith Rice from the episode "Head". Her case was also rather disturbing (as she engaged in a sexual relationship with a twelve-year-old student of hers as well as molesting other boys [[spoiler: and ended up pregnant by the first boy]]), but she only ended up engaging in this shocking behavior due to having a brain tumor. Even as she was HappilyMarried with a loving stepson and a respected school principal and she explained that she knew how wrong it was since she was molested by her grandfather as a child, [=SVU=] and Casey were more than happy to label her a predator and refused to even take the ramifications of the disease into consideration.

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** Similar to the above is Meredith Rice from the episode "Head". Her case was also rather disturbing (as she engaged in a sexual relationship with a twelve-year-old student of hers as well as molesting with other boys [[spoiler: and ended up pregnant by the first boy]]), but she only ended up only engaging in this shocking behavior due to having a brain tumor. Even as she was HappilyMarried with a loving stepson and a respected school principal and she explained that she knew how wrong it was since she was molested by her grandfather as a child, [=SVU=] and Casey were more than happy to label her a predator and refused to even take the ramifications of the disease into consideration.
13th Sep '17 4:46:35 PM Erin582
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** Stuckey who, despite his tendency to annoy everyone, at times seemed to be a bullying target for the entire SVU department. Quite a few fans were cheering for him when he attempted to torture and kill Stabler, especially since Stabler had physically assaulted him earlier in the episode.
** However he also attempted to frame a man for a murder that, while he might have done, didn't commit, killed a lawyer and judge who were doing their job, and then killing a fellow forensic scientist it makes it hard for him to be sympathetic.

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** Stuckey who, despite his tendency to annoy everyone, at times seemed to be a bullying target for the entire SVU department. Quite a few fans were cheering for him when he attempted to torture and kill Stabler, especially since Stabler had physically assaulted him earlier in the episode.
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episode. However he also attempted to frame a man for a murder that, while he might have done, didn't commit, killed a lawyer and judge who were doing their job, and then killing a fellow forensic scientist it makes it hard for him to be sympathetic.



** Similar to the above is Meredith Rice from the episode "Head". Her case was also rather disturbing (as she engaged in a sexual relationship with a twelve-year-old student of hers as well as molesting other boys [[spoiler: and ended up pregnant by the first boy]]), but she only ended up engaging in this shocking behavior due to having a brain tumor. Even as she was HappilyMarried with a loving stepson and a respected school principal and she explained that she knew how wrong it was since she was molested by her grandfather as a child, [=SVU=] and Casey were more than happy to label her a predator and refused to even take the ramifications of the disease into consideration.



** Kristen Vucelik [[spoiler: AKA Fake Heather]] comes off as this for [[spoiler: pretending to be another family's missing daughter and getting their hopes up at their missing "daughter" returning. Despite the actual daughter being dead, the parents are implied to not know, and one sister does not know. Kristen knew that Heather was "missing" and pretended to be her, all to have a family. No matter what her reasons were, she still pretended to be someone she wasn't and got a family's hopes up.]]

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** Kristen Vucelik [[spoiler: AKA Fake Heather]] from "Stranger" comes off as this for [[spoiler: pretending to be another family's missing daughter and getting their hopes up at their missing "daughter" returning. Despite the actual daughter being dead, the parents are implied to not know, and one sister does not know. Kristen knew that Heather was "missing" and pretended to be her, all to have a family. No matter what her reasons were, she still pretended to be someone she wasn't and got a family's hopes up.]]
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