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22nd Jun '17 9:20:39 PM Snowsky
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** Jennifer from "Hothouse". Benson wants to go easy on her because she's only 14 and wasn't in her right mind when she committed her crime of murdering her roommate, Elsa[[note]]she was going insane from lack of sleep and the drugs she was taking to improve her performance at her elite prep school; at the time of the murder she had been awake for six straight days[[/note]]. But the fact remains that she killed Elsa over a petty dispute, tried to cover up the murder by suggesting that Elsa's abusive father was responsible, and never once showed remorse for her actions, even flat-out stating that ''"I'm glad she's dead."''
18th Jun '17 6:05:03 PM wolfpuppy
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* SeasonalRot: The show suffered heavily from this, although it's very much a YMMV on when this set in. There was some rumbling of it when Alex Cabot left the show, quite a bit more when Casey Novak went out on an IdiotBall / HonorBeforeReason note, and the rot was unquestionably in swing by the infamous "monkey basketball" episode, which was possibly the nadir of the entire L&O franchise. The show recovered quite a bit in Season 13 (see GrowingTheBeard, above) with a new showrunner taking over and the introduction of new detectives Amaro and Rollins, both of whom seem specifically written to avoid or subvert the ItsPersonal cliches that the show had been heavily criticized for.... but come Season 15, many were complaining that the quality had deteriorated, with soap-operaish plots for Rollins, Amaro, and Benson taking the place of courtroom scenes, which meant fans saw little of the one almost universally loved character. The Lewis arc was heavily criticized too, with many seeing it as using rape for a cheap ratings boost.

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* SeasonalRot: The show suffered heavily from this, although it's very much a YMMV on when this set in. There was some rumbling of it when Alex Cabot left the show, quite a bit more when Casey Novak went out on an IdiotBall / HonorBeforeReason note, and the rot was unquestionably in swing by the infamous "monkey basketball" episode, which was possibly the nadir of the entire L&O franchise. The show recovered quite a bit in Season 13 (see GrowingTheBeard, above) with a new showrunner taking over and the introduction of new detectives Amaro and Rollins, both of whom seem specifically written to avoid or subvert the ItsPersonal cliches that the show had been heavily criticized for.... but come Season 15, many were complaining that the quality had deteriorated, with soap-operaish plots for Rollins, Amaro, and Benson taking the place of courtroom scenes, which meant fans saw little of the one almost universally loved character. The Lewis arc was heavily criticized too, with many seeing it as using rape for a cheap ratings boost. Seasons 16 and 17 received well or with mixed reviews from the fandom, but, after a shift in showrunners, season 18 was received...poorly.
17th Jun '17 5:49:24 PM nombretomado
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* AcceptableTargets: InternalAffairs. Given the failure of the series to be anything resembling "subtle" about anything, the way they used this trope is exactly what you'd expect.
** The show eases up on Internal Affairs after [[spoiler:Ed and Olivia's RelationshipUpgrade.]]

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* AcceptableTargets: InternalAffairs. Given the failure of the series to be anything resembling "subtle" about anything, the way they used this trope is exactly what you'd expect.
** The show eases
expect. They eventually ease up on Internal Affairs after [[spoiler:Ed and Olivia's RelationshipUpgrade.]]



** Then there's Olivia. Does her backstory of being a ChildOfRape grant her a deeper insight into the psyche of the victims, allowing her to empathize with them to the point that she's willing to risk her job to get them justice? Or has it made her an emotional basket case who can't maintain the emotional detachment and impartiality needed to do her job properly?

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** Then there's Olivia. Does her backstory of being a ChildOfRape grant her a deeper insight into the psyche of the victims, allowing her to empathize with them to the point that she's willing to risk her job to get them justice? Or has it made her an emotional basket case who can't maintain the emotional detachment and impartiality needed to do her job properly?



* ArcFatigue:
** Stabler's separation from his wife and ensuing family drama lasted from the second episode of the sixth season to the very last episode of the eighth, and in the opinions of many fans, outstayed its welcome. Recurring attempts in the tenth season to bring back Stabler family drama with the Stabler kids were not well-received at all by the fans.

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* ArcFatigue:
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ArcFatigue: Stabler's separation from his wife and ensuing family drama lasted from the second episode of the sixth season to the very last episode of the eighth, and in the opinions of many fans, outstayed its welcome. Recurring attempts in the tenth season to bring back Stabler family drama with the Stabler kids were not well-received at all by the fans.



* BaseBreakingCharacter: Dale Stuckey was another one. Some fans loved the fact that an off-the-wall and quirky character was brought into an otherwise serious show and looked at him as comic relief. Other fans were simply annoyed by his non-chalant, insensitive attitude and his continuous screw-ups and either flipped the channel or muted the volume whenever he was on.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Dale Stuckey was another one.Stuckey. Some fans loved the fact that an off-the-wall and quirky character was brought into an otherwise serious show and looked at him as comic relief. Other fans were simply annoyed by his non-chalant, nonchalant, insensitive attitude and his continuous screw-ups and either flipped the channel or muted the volume whenever he was on.



** The show itself may qualify as this nowadays, due to it's [[WolverinePublicity numerous amount of ads on NBC]] (even over its [[Series/LawAndOrder sister]] [[Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent shows]] while all three were still airing and even currently as the surviving show), [[AdoredByTheNetwork oversaturation on USA, where it's given a nonsensical marathon every other day]] and the fact that to date, unlike the other L&O shows, not a single character featured in the opening credits has been killed off, including [[ShooOutTheNewGuy the unpopular ones.]]
* CriticalResearchFailure: in "Imposter", Barba tries a guy who seduces women by pretending to be a college admissions director who can help the women's kids get into college. Barba acknowledges that rape by fraud is not a crime in New York, but then talks about getting the case to a jury. The problem: if what someone has not broken a specific law, the case will never see a jury -- because the judge will kick it out, and may put sanctions on the prosecutor. (Not to mention that the defendant may turn around and sue for malicious prosecution and wrongful arrest.) Later, the judge in the case [[HandWave hand waves]] his failure to dismiss the case by saying that no judge would kick out a rape case without hearing all the evidence. Except that's the judge's job when the prosecution has failed to articulate a crime in his indictment. The judge's failure to do this could subject ''him'' to "getting his pants pulled down and his reputation sullied in public" as he so put it. After all, his decision is subject to review by the appeals court and even the federal courts, given that the defendant's Fourteenth Amendment rights have been violated. Contrary to what the judge says, using the word "rape" doesn't get around that.

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** The show itself may qualify as this nowadays, itself, due to it's its [[WolverinePublicity numerous amount of ads on NBC]] (even over its [[Series/LawAndOrder sister]] [[Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent shows]] while all three were still airing and even currently as the surviving show), [[AdoredByTheNetwork oversaturation on USA, where it's given a nonsensical marathon every other day]] and the fact that to date, unlike the other L&O shows, not a single character featured in the opening credits has been killed off, including [[ShooOutTheNewGuy the unpopular ones.]]
* CriticalResearchFailure: in In "Imposter", Barba tries a guy who seduces women by pretending to be a college admissions director who can help the women's kids get into college. Barba acknowledges that rape by fraud is not a crime in New York, but then talks about getting the case to a jury. The problem: if what someone has not broken a specific law, the case will never see a jury -- because the judge will kick it out, and may put sanctions on the prosecutor. (Not to mention that the defendant may turn around and sue for malicious prosecution and wrongful arrest.) Later, the judge in the case [[HandWave hand waves]] his failure to dismiss the case by saying that no judge would kick out a rape case without hearing all the evidence. Except that's the judge's job when the prosecution has failed to articulate a crime in his indictment. The judge's failure to do this could subject ''him'' to "getting his pants pulled down and his reputation sullied in public" as he so put it. After all, his decision is subject to review by the appeals court and even the federal courts, given that the defendant's Fourteenth Amendment rights have been violated. Contrary to what the judge says, using the word "rape" doesn't get around that.



* DesignatedVillain: As part of the show's ProtagonistCenteredMorality, I.A. officer Ed Tucker is frequently vilified in plot for his constant efforts to bring the SVU detectives up on charges, never mind that the entire point of Internal Affairs is to maintain the integrity of the police and protect the public from abuse. And considering how more than one episode has involved innocent people having their lives ruined by the frequently overzealous efforts of the SVU detectives once they're convinced of a suspect's guilt (Stabler certainly but even Olivia and Capt Cragen at times), and Stabler has flat out tortured a suspect when he didn't have any sort of anti-torture laws to hold him back, and it's a wonder why any of them still have their badges.

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* DesignatedVillain: DesignatedVillain:
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As part of the show's ProtagonistCenteredMorality, I.A. officer Ed Tucker is frequently vilified in plot for his constant efforts to bring the SVU detectives up on charges, never mind that the entire point of Internal Affairs is to maintain the integrity of the police and protect the public from abuse. And considering Considering how more than one episode has involved innocent people having their lives ruined by the frequently overzealous efforts of the SVU detectives once they're convinced of a suspect's guilt (Stabler certainly but even Olivia and Capt Capt. Cragen at times), and Stabler has flat out tortured a suspect when he didn't have any sort of anti-torture laws to hold him back, and it's a wonder why any of them still have their badges.



** (Likewise, Casey was often subjected to death for the Alex/Olivia ship, primarily for [[ReplacementScrappy not being Alex]].)

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** (Likewise, Casey was often subjected to death for the Alex/Olivia ship, primarily for [[ReplacementScrappy not being Alex]].)



** Rafael Barba has become this to people who miss Huang. He is also perceived as the OnlySaneMan and comes off as annoyed by the lack of professionalism at SVU. Needless to say, even people who hate the show love him and Raúl Esparza's performance. He may not be outdoing Cabot and Novak on the "Most Beloved ADA" charts yet, but he is ''damn'' close.

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** Rafael Barba has become this Barba, primarily to people who miss Huang. He is also perceived as the OnlySaneMan and comes off as annoyed by the lack of professionalism at SVU. Needless to say, even people who hate the show love him and Raúl Esparza's performance. He may not be outdoing Cabot and Novak on the "Most Beloved ADA" charts yet, but he is ''damn'' close.



** The ending to Wrong is Right tells us that fantasizing about killing suspects is bad. Unless they're a CompleteMonster, then it's okay.
* FanonDiscontinuity: As far as the Stabler fangirls are concerned, season 13 onwards does not exist. In this they are eagerly joined by fans of Creator/MarciaGayHarden's recurring character Dana Lewis, who [[spoiler:''definitely'' didn't get sent to jail for murdering someone out of jealousy and then framing someone else for it]]. Her last appearance was in season 12, which was the show's last.

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** The ending to Wrong "Wrong is Right Right" tells us that fantasizing about killing suspects is bad. Unless they're a CompleteMonster, then it's okay.
* FanonDiscontinuity: FanonDiscontinuity:
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As far as the Stabler fangirls are concerned, season 13 onwards does not exist. In this they exist.
** They
are eagerly joined by fans of Creator/MarciaGayHarden's recurring character Dana Lewis, who [[spoiler:''definitely'' didn't get sent to jail for murdering someone out of jealousy and then framing someone else for it]]. Her last appearance was in season 12, which was the show's last.



** Another sports related one from the same season as "Personal Fouls". In "Spiraling Down", we see an ex-football star named Jake Stanton who gets in trouble for patronizing a prostitute and then indecent exposure. It's revealed that he has CTE, which is a disease that degenerates the brain as a result of many concussions. After it's found apparent that he was not of the right mind, the episode ends with [[spoiler: Stanton taking a gun from a cop and then committing suicide by shooting himself in the chest]]. While this is based loosely on what Dave Duerson did in early 2011, the episode rings even more harsh when you consider that Chargers star Junior Seau recently passed as result to a self-inflicted gunshot wound in the chest.

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** Another sports related one from the same season as "Personal Fouls". In "Spiraling Down", we see an ex-football star named Jake Stanton who gets in trouble for patronizing a prostitute and then indecent exposure. It's revealed that he has CTE, which is a disease that degenerates the brain as a result of many concussions. After it's found apparent that he was not of the right mind, the episode ends with [[spoiler: Stanton taking a gun from a cop and then committing suicide by shooting himself in the chest]]. While this is based loosely on what Dave Duerson did in early 2011, the episode rings even more harsh when you consider that Chargers star Junior Seau recently passed as result to a self-inflicted gunshot wound in the chest.



** The episode ''Amaro's One-Eighty,'' has an unarmed black teenager being shot, leading to a media frenzy surrounding the shooting and drawing attention to the police brutality. The detectives intentionally try to block the investigation or make sure it's only handled by friends who are willing to look the other way, explaining that the cop will be a victim of the media and made a pariah for police brutality, therefore the case should just be dropped. Despite this the case leads to protests against police and a recording of the shooting leaks to the internet. Ultimately the case only gets as far as a grand jury who decide not to indict, and the cop is largely let off scot-free. The episode aired in January 2014, and in August of that same year, Michael Brown's shooting in Ferguson, Missouri, saw all of these events happen for real. The episode feels incredibly bizarre, especially with the Internal Affairs agents inspecting the case being treated as bullies and SVU being framed as heroes for trying to bury details given the uncooperative response of the Ferguson and St. Louis police departments in the shooting's aftermath. And for the topic of a shooting that gets recorded and put onto the internet...just see the entry below.

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** The episode ''Amaro's One-Eighty,'' "Amaro's One-Eighty", has an unarmed black teenager being shot, leading to a media frenzy surrounding the shooting and drawing attention to the police brutality. The detectives intentionally try to block the investigation or make sure it's only handled by friends who are willing to look the other way, explaining that the cop will be a victim of the media and made a pariah for police brutality, therefore the case should just be dropped. Despite this the case leads to protests against police and a recording of the shooting leaks to the internet. Ultimately the case only gets as far as a grand jury who decide not to indict, and the cop is largely let off scot-free. The episode aired in January 2014, and in August of that same year, Michael Brown's shooting in Ferguson, Missouri, saw all of these events happen for real. The episode feels incredibly bizarre, especially with the Internal Affairs agents inspecting the case being treated as bullies and SVU being framed as heroes for trying to bury details given the uncooperative response of the Ferguson and St. Louis police departments in the shooting's aftermath. And for the topic of a shooting that gets recorded and put onto the internet...just see the entry below.



** During a Season 7 episode, actor [[Series/BlackIsh Anthony Anderson]], makes a guest appearance as a detective from the main ''Series/LawAndOrder'' branch, sent to help SVU solve a case involving an overweight black young man with Type-2 Diabeties who commits a revenge killing. In the end, the guy is convicted of second degree murder, but isn't there to hear the verdict, because he's in the hospital after suffering a dangerous diabetic attack which gives him liver failure and results in his left foot getting amputated. The Harsher part? Years later, actor Anthony Anderson, [[FormerlyFat who was overweight most of his life]], would get diagnosed with Type-2 Diabetes in real life.

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** During a Season 7 episode, actor [[Series/BlackIsh Anthony Anderson]], makes a guest appearance as a detective from the main ''Series/LawAndOrder'' branch, sent to help SVU solve a case involving an overweight black young man with Type-2 Diabeties Diabetes who commits a revenge killing. In the end, the guy is convicted of second degree murder, but isn't there to hear the verdict, because he's in the hospital after suffering a dangerous diabetic attack which gives him liver failure and results in his left foot getting amputated. The Harsher harsher part? Years later, actor Anthony Anderson, [[FormerlyFat who was overweight most of his life]], would get diagnosed with Type-2 Diabetes in real life.



** In ''Dominance'', Jason Ritter playing one half of a pair of twins [[spoiler: who's in an incestuous relationship]] seems uncomfortably amusing now that he's [[WesternAnimation/GravityFalls a character]] who's [[IncestYayShipping popularly paired with his twin sister]].

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** In ''Dominance'', "Dominance", Jason Ritter playing one half of a pair of twins [[spoiler: who's in an incestuous relationship]] seems uncomfortably amusing now that he's [[WesternAnimation/GravityFalls a character]] who's [[IncestYayShipping popularly paired with his twin sister]].



** As completely unlikeable as Elliot can be, you can really feel for him, especially when he realizes he's been a neglectful dad and tries to make amends with his kids but is pushed away.

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** As completely unlikeable unlikable as Elliot can be, you can really feel for him, especially when he realizes he's been a neglectful dad and tries to make amends with his kids but is pushed away.



* MagnificentBastard: Darius Parker[[spoiler: or Fin's stepson]]. Not only does he commit one of the most heinous crimes described on SVU [[spoiler: by murdering a woman, raping her with his KNIFE, and then burying her 14-month-old son alive]], but he walks, even after confessing to the crime. How? [[spoiler: first he mentions that he has an upcoming burglary case before he confesses to the crime while waving his right to counsel. However, because he mentions his upcoming case, it is implied that he should have counsel present, making his confession and the bodies discovered by that confession inadmissible in court. He then goes to trial and picks apart the prosecution's case while airing Fin and Stabler's dirty laundry, getting the Judge recused from the case by mention the DUI of Stabler's daughter, and getting his mother to reveal that she hates him because he was the child of her rape(by his [[ParentalIncest grandfather/father]]).]]
** Stabler has his moments as well. The opening of one episode showed Stabler unscrewing the bottom of the leg of a chair so it wobbled, loosened a light so it flickered, and turned up the thermostat, all to unnerve a suspect he was about to interview and knew would be hard to crack.

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* MagnificentBastard: MagnificentBastard:
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Darius Parker[[spoiler: or Fin's stepson]]. Not only does he commit one of the most heinous crimes described on SVU [[spoiler: by murdering a woman, raping her with his KNIFE, and then burying her 14-month-old son alive]], but he walks, even after confessing to the crime. How? [[spoiler: first he mentions that he has an upcoming burglary case before he confesses to the crime while waving his right to counsel. However, because he mentions his upcoming case, it is implied that he should have counsel present, making his confession and the bodies discovered by that confession inadmissible in court. He then goes to trial and picks apart the prosecution's case while airing Fin and Stabler's dirty laundry, getting the Judge recused from the case by mention the DUI of Stabler's daughter, and getting his mother to reveal that she hates him because he was the child of her rape(by his [[ParentalIncest grandfather/father]]).]]
** Stabler has his moments as well.moments. The opening of one episode showed Stabler unscrewing the bottom of the leg of a chair so it wobbled, loosened a light so it flickered, and turned up the thermostat, all to unnerve a suspect he was about to interview and knew would be hard to crack.



** Unrelated to ''Intimidation Game'', we have [[AC:Co-Producer: Speed Weed]], based on the [[AluminumChristmasTrees incredibly ironic and off-putting name of]] [[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2373535/ an (ex) member of the staff]].

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** Unrelated to ''Intimidation Game'', "Intimidation Game", we have [[AC:Co-Producer: Speed Weed]], based on the [[AluminumChristmasTrees incredibly ironic and off-putting name of]] [[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2373535/ an (ex) member of the staff]].



* NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize: Usually played straight, but one episode, in quick succession, had the detectives talking up a promiscuous female vic's sexual partners: Bobby Flay, Mark [=McGrath=], and a baseball player, all playing {{Exp|y}}ies of themselves. It's not ''any'' of them; just sweeps.
** The baseball player was Jesse Palmer, who is known for being an extremely forgettable NFL Quarterback
** Subverted in the 2009 season finale: The killer is very quickly found to be a very paranoid [[SinCity That Yellow Bastard]] and one of his allies is Munch's paranoid ex-wife [[Series/{{Taxi}} Simka Gravas]], however [[spoiler: most of the ''actual'' killings were done by a recurring character who was introduced ''at the beginning of the season''.]]

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* NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize: NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize:
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Usually played straight, but one episode, in quick succession, had the detectives talking up a promiscuous female vic's sexual partners: Bobby Flay, Mark [=McGrath=], and a baseball player, all playing {{Exp|y}}ies of themselves. It's not ''any'' of them; just sweeps.
** The baseball player was Jesse Palmer, who is known for being an extremely forgettable NFL Quarterback
** Subverted in the 2009 season finale: The killer is very quickly found to be a very paranoid [[SinCity [[Film/SinCity That Yellow Bastard]] and one of his allies is Munch's paranoid ex-wife [[Series/{{Taxi}} Simka Gravas]], however [[spoiler: most of the ''actual'' killings were done by a recurring character who was introduced ''at the beginning of the season''.]]



** A semi-subversion in ''Bedtime'' had 4 famous (from 25+ years ago) guest stars: Ann-Margaret, Jaclyn Smith, Morgan Fairchild and Susan Anton. Only one of them did it. [[spoiler:And in the show, she's no ''angel.'']]

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** A semi-subversion in ''Bedtime'' "Bedtime" had 4 famous (from 25+ years ago) guest stars: Ann-Margaret, Jaclyn Smith, Morgan Fairchild and Susan Anton. Only one of them did it. [[spoiler:And in the show, she's no ''angel.'']]



* ParanoiaFuel: Pretty much every episode if you are a woman who lives alone or who has children or who leaves the house.
** Or if you're a man involved with a woman who does any of those things.
*** Or if you're a man who does any of those things. There have certainly been enough male rape victims on this show.
*** The tactics the SVU detectives use to convict criminals or trick them into confessing, including their railroading of suspects who have only circumstantial evidence behind them, can start to give watchers rather pressing paranoia about cops.

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* ParanoiaFuel: ParanoiaFuel:
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Pretty much every episode if you are a woman who lives alone or who has children or who leaves the house.
** Or Every episode if you're a man involved with a woman who does any of those things.
*** Or ** Every episode if you're a man who does any of those things. There have certainly been enough male rape victims on this show.
*** ** The tactics the SVU detectives use to convict criminals or trick them into confessing, including their railroading of suspects who have only circumstantial evidence behind them, can start to give watchers rather pressing paranoia about cops.



** A much purer example would be Kim Greylek, who was an ineffective mixture of Alex and Casey, with a heap of InformedAbility and no CrowningMomentOfAwesome legal ass-kicking.

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** A much purer example would be Kim Greylek, who was an ineffective mixture of Alex and Casey, with a heap of InformedAbility and no CrowningMomentOfAwesome legal ass-kicking.



** Kathleen Stabler is one as well. In addition to being seen as an obnoxious troublemaker by the fans, the episode where it's learned that not only is she [[spoiler: bi-polar, but Stabler's [[AssPull never-before seen (or since) mother]] is as well]] was [[{{Narm}} narmish]] on its head and failed to actually make her more likable and her actions better understood.
** Carisi is getting there. Following fan-favorites like Munch and Cragen, he was bound to have a hard time being endeared to fans, but even after he's been on awhile, he doesn't have that many fans of his own, although he's recently been [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap redeemed]] as of Season 18.
** The most famous Scrappy has to be Dani Beck who becomes Stabler's partner when Olivia is given an assignment for the FBI. She's more prone to action which leads to almost being knifed by a perp, acts unprofessional to the point where Stabler actually lectures her, her temper is even shorter than Stabler's, [[spoiler: her negative words against a perp drove John Munch's unstable uncle to push him into an oncoming train]], and she never had a really powerful way to be written out unlike Chester Lake. She also got to kiss Stabler which really set off the Elliot/Olivia fans' BerserkButton since their relationship never got passed past the platonic stage.
** The recurring character Dana Lewis, for being overwhelming abrasive, her NeverMyFault attitude when she blames Olivia and Elliott for messing up an undercover operation when she came to them for help but refused to cooperate, and the fact Elliott seems to get shot everytime she shows up.

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** Kathleen Stabler is one as well.Stabler. In addition to being seen as an obnoxious troublemaker by the fans, the episode where it's learned that not only is she [[spoiler: bi-polar, but Stabler's [[AssPull never-before seen (or since) mother]] is as well]] was [[{{Narm}} narmish]] on its head and failed to actually make her more likable and her actions better understood.
** Carisi is getting there. Carisi. Following fan-favorites like Munch and Cragen, he was bound to have a hard time being endeared to fans, but even after he's been on awhile, he doesn't have that many fans of his own, although he's recently been he got [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap redeemed]] as of Season 18.
** The most famous Scrappy has to be Dani Beck Beck, who becomes Stabler's partner when Olivia is given an assignment for the FBI. She's more prone to action which leads to almost being knifed by a perp, acts unprofessional to the point where Stabler actually lectures her, her temper is even shorter than Stabler's, [[spoiler: her negative words against a perp drove John Munch's unstable uncle to push him into an oncoming train]], and she never had a really powerful way to be written out unlike Chester Lake. She also got to kiss Stabler which really set off the Elliot/Olivia fans' BerserkButton since their relationship never got passed past the platonic stage.
** The recurring character character, Dana Lewis, for being overwhelming abrasive, her NeverMyFault attitude when she blames Olivia and Elliott for messing up an undercover operation when she came to them for help but refused to cooperate, and the fact Elliott seems to get shot everytime she shows up.



* ShockingSwerve: "Unstable" involved rapes being committed in the same fashion as some Elliot had already put away a man for. They find the real rapist, he confesses, [[spoiler:Elliot goes to apologize to the guy he put away, then the perp falls out of the bathroom window, possibly pushed by that week's guest detective. Without the perp to alocute, they can't get the other guy out of jail. Episode ends.]]

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* ShockingSwerve: ShockingSwerve:
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"Unstable" involved rapes being committed in the same fashion as some Elliot had already put away a man for. They find the real rapist, he confesses, [[spoiler:Elliot goes to apologize to the guy he put away, then the perp falls out of the bathroom window, possibly pushed by that week's guest detective. Without the perp to alocute, they can't get the other guy out of jail. Episode ends.]]



* {{Squick}}: It's a show about sex crimes, after all.
** Lewis is not shy about spouting out sentences dripping with sexual violence (sometimes while smiling) and it's enough to make just about anyone squirm. [[spoiler: The last few minutes of "Beast's Obsession" include a scene of Lewis attempting to rape a bound and helpless Olivia Benson. Lewis gropes Olivia's breasts and forcefully kisses her while she's handcuffed and bent over a table. Add the incredibly disturbing sound of him loudly panting in her ear as he's assaulting her and it's no wonder many fans admitted to being triggered by this image.]]
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Many of the characters with a weird kink or unusual sexual orientation turn out never to have hurt anybody, but the detectives (especially Stabler) think of them as "perverts" or "sickos" who ought to be in jail and it seems like the show expects us to agree with them. A lot of those characters (pedophiles trying desperately to suppress their urges, for instance) come across as more sympathetic than they're probably intended to be.

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* {{Squick}}: It's a show about sex crimes, after all.
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all. However, specifically, William Lewis is not shy about spouting out sentences dripping with sexual violence (sometimes while smiling) and it's enough to make just about anyone squirm. [[spoiler: The last few minutes of "Beast's Obsession" include a scene of Lewis attempting to rape a bound and helpless Olivia Benson. Lewis gropes Olivia's breasts and forcefully kisses her while she's handcuffed and bent over a table. Add the incredibly disturbing sound of him loudly panting in her ear as he's assaulting her and it's no wonder many fans admitted to being triggered by this image.]]
* StrawmanHasAPoint: StrawmanHasAPoint:
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Many of the characters with a weird kink or unusual sexual orientation turn out never to have hurt anybody, but the detectives (especially Stabler) think of them as "perverts" or "sickos" who ought to be in jail and it seems like the show expects us to agree with them. A lot of those characters (pedophiles trying desperately to suppress their urges, for instance) come across as more sympathetic than they're probably intended to be.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: As of the S16 finale, many feel that [[spoiler:Detective Nick Amaro]]'s potential as a character was wasted in favor of [[spoiler:simply making him a Stabler clone]]. Oddly enough, [[spoiler: Danny Pino's previous well-known character, [[Series/ColdCase Scotty Valens]], was very reminiscent to Stabler, so if anything [[CharacterizationMarchesOn his new characterization]] could have been viewed as a rehash of Stabler ''or'' Valens.]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In "Cold", Casey gets a job offer from another firm that involves defending corporate cases. Taking up the offer after losing the case would've been a better write-off for the character than her [[IdiotBall lying about the evidence in the case (which she doesn't win anyway) that ends up with her getting suspended.]]
** Similarly in "Heartfelt Passages", [[spoiler: Sergeant Mike Dodds is leaving SVU for an assignment in the Joint Terrorism Taskforce just as the audience was getting to learn more about him. Instead of having him take the already built up being PutOnABus, leaving open the door for future appearances, he gets shot in a hostage situation gone bad and ends of dying in the hospital.]]
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Surprisingly, Mike Jergens in "Starved" has a sympathetic moment. He was responsible for raping several women but when his wife Cora ends up in a vegetative state due to her alcoholism and bulimia making a deadly combination, everything changes. She's essentially brain dead and Mike wants to stop the life support to let her die in dignity while her mother wants her to live. The detectives immediately side with the mother since they think that Mike just wants to get his hands on the money from the insurance policy. [[spoiler: It turns out that Mike was right all along since he and Cora witnessed a terrible accident years ago where a young woman ended up in a vegetative state. Cora told Mike that she would never want to live this way if it ever happened to her and her mother sadly agrees that ending life support was for the best. Mike and Virginia form a bit of a truce and he lets her be with her daughter when she's taken off life support.]] As reprehensible as his actions were and as much doubt everyone had in how much he cared for his wife, he still loved her enough to honor her decision.
** Stuckey who despite his tendency to annoy everyone, at times seemed to be a bullying target for the entire SVU department. Quite a few fans were cheering for him when he attempted to torture and kill Stabler, especially since Stabler had physically assaulted him earlier in the episode.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: As of the S16 [=S16=] finale, many feel that [[spoiler:Detective Nick Amaro]]'s potential as a character was wasted in favor of [[spoiler:simply making him a Stabler clone]]. Oddly enough, [[spoiler: Danny Pino's previous well-known character, [[Series/ColdCase Scotty Valens]], was very reminiscent to Stabler, so if anything [[CharacterizationMarchesOn his new characterization]] could have been viewed as a rehash of Stabler ''or'' Valens.]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
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In "Cold", Casey gets a job offer from another firm that involves defending corporate cases. Taking up the offer after losing the case would've been a better write-off for the character than her [[IdiotBall lying about the evidence in the case (which she doesn't win anyway) that ends up with her getting suspended.]]
** Similarly in In "Heartfelt Passages", [[spoiler: Sergeant Mike Dodds is leaving SVU for an assignment in the Joint Terrorism Taskforce just as the audience was getting to learn more about him. Instead of having him take the already built up being PutOnABus, leaving open the door for future appearances, he gets shot in a hostage situation gone bad and ends of dying in the hospital.]]
* UnintentionallySympathetic: UnintentionallySympathetic:
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Surprisingly, Mike Jergens in "Starved" has a sympathetic moment. He was responsible for raping several women but when his wife Cora ends up in a vegetative state due to her alcoholism and bulimia making a deadly combination, everything changes. She's essentially brain dead and Mike wants to stop the life support to let her die in dignity while her mother wants her to live. The detectives immediately side with the mother since they think that Mike just wants to get his hands on the money from the insurance policy. [[spoiler: It turns out that Mike was right all along since he and Cora witnessed a terrible accident years ago where a young woman ended up in a vegetative state. Cora told Mike that she would never want to live this way if it ever happened to her and her mother sadly agrees that ending life support was for the best. Mike and Virginia form a bit of a truce and he lets her be with her daughter when she's taken off life support.]] As reprehensible as his actions were and as much doubt everyone had in how much he cared for his wife, he still loved her enough to honor her decision.
** Stuckey who who, despite his tendency to annoy everyone, at times seemed to be a bullying target for the entire SVU department. Quite a few fans were cheering for him when he attempted to torture and kill Stabler, especially since Stabler had physically assaulted him earlier in the episode.



* WhatAnIdiot: In "Dependent," Elliot is being investigated for causing the death of a suspect. The ME rules the suspect's death as a homicide based on the fact that his spleen ruptured... and Olivia, who is ''right there'' when this discovery is made, neglects to tell Warner that Elliot gave the suspect CPR. If Elliot hadn't casually brought it up later, Warner would have presented the ruptured spleen as cause of death and Elliot would have gone to jail.

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* WhatAnIdiot: WhatAnIdiot:
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In "Dependent," Elliot is being investigated for causing the death of a suspect. The ME rules the suspect's death as a homicide based on the fact that his spleen ruptured... and Olivia, who is ''right there'' when this discovery is made, neglects to tell Warner that Elliot gave the suspect CPR. If Elliot hadn't casually brought it up later, Warner would have presented the ruptured spleen as cause of death and Elliot would have gone to jail.



** A recent episode this year has a line where a girl being taken away from her man yells at him "I'm not your ''thot''". "Thot" stands for "that hoe over there" and it is becoming a common saying on Twitter and other social media sites this year. The saying make no sense because it is used in the wrong tense

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** A recent later episode this year has a line where a girl being taken away from her man yells at him "I'm not your ''thot''". "Thot" stands for "that hoe over there" and it is becoming a common saying on Twitter and other social media sites this year. The saying make no sense because it is used in the wrong tense
14th Jun '17 4:38:53 PM DrakeClawfang
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** "Birthright" centered around a mother kidnapping the daughter of another couple convinced she was her own missing daughter, and the detectives found out the two mothers went to the same fertility doctor and he implanted the first woman's eggs in the second, so the girl actually was her biological daughter. A custody battle ensued, and on advice from Elliot, Casey grilled the girl about the confusion over her parents until the biological mother called the trial off, unwilling to put the girl through such an ordeal. We're supposed to be relieved, but this would seem to imply that the biological mother loved the girl more than her parents, not to mention Casey deliberately confusing the poor child to the point of tears to see who would crack and give her up.

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** "Birthright" centered around a mother kidnapping the daughter of another couple convinced she was her own missing daughter, and the detectives found out the two mothers went to the same fertility doctor and he implanted the first woman's eggs in the second, so the girl actually was her biological daughter. A custody battle ensued, and on advice from a conflicted Casey consulted Elliot, who told her the JudgmentOfSolomon tale. Casey grilled called the girl to testify and grilled her about the confusion over her parents until the biological mother called the trial off, unwilling to put the girl through such an ordeal. She pleads guilty to custodial interference and moves out of state, unable to be near her daughter. We're supposed to be relieved, but happy, except that the point of the Judgment of Solomon story is that Solomon ruled in favor of ''the mother who backed off'', as her refusal to put the child through pain proved to Solomon that she loved the child more. Not only does this would seem to imply that the biological mother loved the girl child more than her the parents, not to mention but it also features Casey deliberately confusing the poor cross-examining a child to the point of tears just to see who would which mother will crack and give her up.first.
11th Jun '17 7:30:56 PM Windrays
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Originally, Carisi was highly unpopular, given how he was seen as TheGenericGuy in comparison to popular characters like Munch, Stabler, and Amaro. As his time on the show increased, however, he was given a ShipTease with Rollins, a VitriolicBestBuds chemistry with Barba, and a reputation as a [[NiceGuy gentle Italian boy from Staten Island]], and is now fairly popular within the fandom. Peter Scanavino's [[PrettyBoy good looks]] don't hurt, either.



** Carisi is getting there. Following fan-favorites like Munch and Cragen, he was bound to have a hard time being endeared to fans, but even after he's been on awhile, he doesn't have that many fans of his own.

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** Carisi is getting there. Following fan-favorites like Munch and Cragen, he was bound to have a hard time being endeared to fans, but even after he's been on awhile, he doesn't have that many fans of his own.own, although he's recently been [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap redeemed]] as of Season 18.


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** ADA Strauss is a smug bastard who attempts to showboat his way to the top at the expense of various SVU detectives, up to and including trying to get Benson fired and/or indicted for her killing William Lewis. To say that he's not exactly beloved is an understatement.
11th May '17 6:13:36 PM Erin582
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: As of the S16 finale, many feel that [[spoiler:Detective Nick Amaro]]'s potential as a character was wasted in favor of [[spoiler:simply making him a Stabler clone]].

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: As of the S16 finale, many feel that [[spoiler:Detective Nick Amaro]]'s potential as a character was wasted in favor of [[spoiler:simply making him a Stabler clone]]. Oddly enough, [[spoiler: Danny Pino's previous well-known character, [[Series/ColdCase Scotty Valens]], was very reminiscent to Stabler, so if anything [[CharacterizationMarchesOn his new characterization]] could have been viewed as a rehash of Stabler ''or'' Valens.]]
5th May '17 11:51:19 AM MyLittleXero
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** The recurring character Dana Lewis, for being overwhelming abrasive, her NeverMyFault attitude when she blames Olivia and Elliott for messing up an undercover operation when she came to them for help but refused to cooperate, and the fact Elliott seems to get shot everytime she shows up.
20th Apr '17 8:04:57 AM CosmicFerret
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** FridgeBrilliance: Unlike in the other LawAndOrder series, the verdict is rarely shown in SVU.

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** FridgeBrilliance: Unlike in the other LawAndOrder Franchise/LawAndOrder series, the verdict is rarely shown in SVU.
19th Apr '17 7:38:19 PM Alexaxle
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* FanPreferredCouple: There are different ones depending on what side of the fandom one is on. But Elliot/Olivia (called E/O) is the most popular het ship and Alex/Olivia (called A/O) is popular with femslashers. On a different note, Barba/Carisi, or Barisi, is the most popular slash ship.

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* FanPreferredCouple: There are different ones depending on what side of the fandom one is on. But Elliot/Olivia (called E/O) is the most popular het ship and Alex/Olivia (called A/O) is popular with femslashers. On a different note, Barba/Carisi, [[CrackShip Barba/Carisi]], or Barisi, is the most popular slash ship.
19th Apr '17 5:11:03 PM wolfpuppy
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* FanPreferredCouple: There are different ones depending on what side of the fandom one is on. But Elliot/Olivia (called E/O) is the most popular het ship and Alex/Olivia (called A/O) is popular with femslashers. On a different note, Barba/Carisi, or Barisi, is the most popular slash ship.
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