History YMMV / LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit

17th Apr '18 8:13:08 PM Snowsky
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** Similar to the above, Jamie Hoskins from "Influence". Because of her young age and her bipolar disorder, Novak tries to get her a relatively light sentence. She is presented as a vulnerable young woman led astray by her idol, a rock star with anti-psychiatry views, who convinced her that her medication was damaging her brain. But her actions throughout the episode make it difficult to sympathize with her. [[spoiler:When she stops taking her pills, she goes through a manic phase, having sex with two of her male friends, then falsely accusing them of rape, ruining their lives and getting them (and herself) expelled from school. She then tries to commit suicide [[WhatAnIdiot by deliberately causing a car accident,]] injuring six people and killing another girl. Throughout the trial, she shows no remorse for her crimes and ''still'' refuses to take her medication. She even has the gall to [[NeverMyFault blame her parents]] for everything that she did while off her pills. After all that, house arrest, a court-ordered drug regimen, and a short sentence in a psychiatric facility seems very lenient, considering the devastation she caused. Cragen acts as the AudienceSurrogate for many of the viewers, telling Novak, "You let her walk, your ass is on the line right next to mine."]]

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** Similar to the above, Jamie Hoskins from "Influence". Because of her young age and her bipolar disorder, Novak tries to get her a relatively light sentence. She is presented as a vulnerable young woman led astray by her idol, a rock star with anti-psychiatry views, who convinced her that her medication was damaging her brain. But her actions throughout the episode make it difficult to sympathize with her. [[spoiler:When she stops taking her pills, she goes through a manic phase, having sex with two of her male friends, then falsely accusing them of rape, ruining their lives and getting them (and herself) expelled from school. She then tries to commit suicide [[WhatAnIdiot by deliberately causing a car accident,]] injuring six people and killing another girl. Throughout the trial, she shows no remorse for her crimes and ''still'' refuses to take her medication. She even has the gall to [[NeverMyFault blame her parents]] for everything that she did while off her pills. After all that, house arrest, a court-ordered drug regimen, and a short sentence in a psychiatric facility seems very lenient, considering the devastation she caused. Cragen acts as Near the AudienceSurrogate end of the episode, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone it finally hits her how badly she messed up,]] but for many of the viewers, telling Novak, "You let her walk, your ass is on the line right next to mine."]]it's too little, too late.]]
16th Apr '18 9:37:03 PM RicardoRenegado
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** William Lewis continually returning to terrorize Olivia and the SVU squad, especially because Lewis tended to continually succeed for VillainSue reasons rather than being any kind of worthy opponent. His charm was [[InformedAbility supposedly irresistible]] and at least one woman in radius could always be guaranteed to pick up the IdiotBall and help him even when he was boxed in. Further frustrating fans, Lewis [[AFoolForAClient represented himself at trial]] and Barba was actually stymied by him, which was a really blatant case of IdiotBall as one of Barba's best known (and best loved) traits is that he is usually a shark in court.
* ArmedWithCanon: Warren Leight pulled this on previous showrunners in the Season 16 finale, with Olivia telling Amaro [[spoiler:"I grew more in the 4 years with you as my partner than with the 12 I was with him" (meaning Stabler)]]. Ohhhh yes, fans were pissed.

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** William Lewis continually returning to terrorize Olivia and the SVU squad, especially because Lewis tended to continually succeed for VillainSue reasons rather than being any kind of worthy opponent.squad. His charm was [[InformedAbility supposedly irresistible]] and at least one woman in radius could always be guaranteed to pick up the IdiotBall and help him even when he was boxed in. Further frustrating fans, Lewis [[AFoolForAClient represented himself at trial]] and Barba was actually stymied by him, which was a really blatant case of IdiotBall as one of Barba's best known (and best loved) traits is that he is usually a shark in court.
* ArmedWithCanon: Warren Leight pulled this on previous showrunners in the Season 16 finale, with Olivia telling Amaro [[spoiler:"I grew more in the 4 years with you as my partner than with the 12 I was with him" (meaning Stabler)]]. Ohhhh yes, fans were pissed.
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* CluelessAesop: The episode "Gray" started with a college girl accusing a male classmate of raping her while she was drunk, the man said she consented and didn't remember the next day because she was drunk. This gave Olivia the opportunity to lecture the squad that if a woman has been drinking, it's rape (seriously how does this woman have a badge?) and that if a man is equally drunk [[DoubleStandard it's still the man's responsibility not to take advantage of her]]. The episode was set up to be an episode-long AuthorTract about drunken he-said-she-said rape cases, but then the investigation went on a tangent, it turned out that the man got his girlfriend pregnant and then caused her to have a miscarriage by using an abortive agent as a sexual lubricant. When the case went to trial, the defense attorney asked the judge to recuse herself because of her bias involving cases with "this type of victim". The judge then went to the reluctant witness victim to [[AuthorFilibuster tell her own story]] about how she was raped and no one took her seriously. This speech might have been perfectly in place in many other episodes of the series, it might have even made sense to have the judge give this speech to the first victim who accused the man of rape, but by this point in the story everyone had forgotten about her. The victim the judge gave the speech to wasn't raped, in fact she was the one girl everyone knew for certain had consensual sex with the perpetrator. So the judge had no reason to recuse herself, her speech to the victim was weirdly out of place, and the perpetrator was never punished for anything he did to the first victim, in fact they never really proved his version of events wasn't the truth. A lesson in the importance of believing women who say they were raped was not learned.
31st Mar '18 12:54:36 AM dbdude01
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** Billy Tripley, the Michael Jackson expy from "Sick". Despite not enough credible evidence to warrant either an arrest or conviction, especially since both accusations were dismissed as being false, in the SVU's mind he's guilty because of his childlike mentality and eccentric lifestyle, seemingly going out of their way to make his medical examination as painful as possible and vowing to "get him next time".
24th Mar '18 4:15:45 PM DrOO7
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* RewatchBonus: In "Parasites", one of the boyfriends of the victim mentioned that she threw a fit if he bought her anything but expensive jewelry, and she's described as a GoldDigger in general. When we later learn that another sister was being forced into prostitution to pay off a debt, it seems likely that she was like this in order to get the money to buy her sister's freedom.
24th Mar '18 4:13:41 PM DrOO7
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* RewatchBonus: In "Parasites", one of the boyfriends of the victim mentioned that she threw a fit if he bought her anything but expensive jewelry. When we later learn that another sister was being forced into prostitution to pay off a debt, it seems likely that she wanted the jewelry to pawn it for the money to buy her sister's freedom.

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* RewatchBonus: In "Parasites", one of the boyfriends of the victim mentioned that she threw a fit if he bought her anything but expensive jewelry. jewelry, and she's described as a GoldDigger in general. When we later learn that another sister was being forced into prostitution to pay off a debt, it seems likely that she wanted the jewelry was like this in order to pawn it for get the money to buy her sister's freedom.
19th Mar '18 9:39:08 AM DrOO7
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* RewatchBonus: In "Parasites", one of the boyfriends of the victim mentioned that she threw a fit if he bought her anything but expensive jewelry. When we later learn that another sister was being forced into prostitution to pay off a debt, it seems likely that she wanted the jewelry to pawn it for the money to buy her sister's freedom.
16th Mar '18 4:13:13 PM nombretomado
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* RonTheDeathEater: ThisVeryWiki treats Elliot this way. Just look at the Headscratchers or Fridge page.

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* RonTheDeathEater: ThisVeryWiki Wiki/ThisVeryWiki treats Elliot this way. Just look at the Headscratchers or Fridge page.
14th Mar '18 3:36:15 PM Mrs.Barch
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*** "Devastating Story" further complicates this as the rape advocacy professor specifically went to Olivia in order to try and railroad three innocent men. She even did things like tell the victim even though they were both drunk it was still rape because she wasn’t capable of consenting.


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* IdiotPlot: "Decaying Morality" starts with a disoriented young girl stumbling into a pizzeria bathroom. A line begins to form outside, so an employee barges in to see what she's doing. Confused, the girl accuses him of raping her, and he's promptly arrested. Despite being clearly groggy and dazed, they take the girl's statement for granted, without even bothering to find out how she got drugged, and where she was before the incident occurred. They send her semen stained sweater to be DNA tested, whilst a ContrivedCoincidence means there is a glitch in the pizzeria security footage. The detectives make no attempt to trace the girl's steps back to the start of the day, nor do they interview any potential witnesses. The accused also happens to be a black man, making the episode delve into UnfortunateImplications. Furthermore, when the girl's dad lashes out and causes the suspect to die, it is later revealed that the real culprit is her uncle, which anyone with a brain and eyes can clearly see. He's a dentist, he has access to a plethora of drugs, and the teen visited his surgery earlier that morning. If the cops had done their job properly, the innocent man wouldn't be dead, and this case could have been solved a lot sooner. The entire episode requires the protagonists to hold the IdiotBall, not to mention that none of them, excluding Barba, ever shows any remorse or sympathy to the family of the now-dead and wrongly accused black man. Not even the girl's father, and he was responsible for it.
11th Mar '18 5:05:20 PM dbdude01
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** Olivia Benson. While both Stabler and Benson are often KarmaHoudini {{Designated Hero}}es, at least Stabler occasionally finds himself on the receiving end of a ReasonYouSuckSpeech. Benson on the other hand is never criticized or called out, and the other characters can't stop [[CharacterShilling singing her praises]]. The only time anyone says anything negative about Benson, it's either a DesignatedVillain or StrawMisogynist whose disapproval only serves to confirm that Benson is a [[CanonSue pure, prefect, incorruptible paragon of virtue]].
5th Mar '18 4:30:16 PM Erin582
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** Janis, the woman from "Alternate" who [[spoiler: supposedly]] has multiple personalities and one of them is responsible for murdering her abusive parents. In addition to Huang explaining that most cases of people claiming to have that are b.s. [[spoiler: and she is no different]], some of the actions of her "other" personalities include going through police files to look up Stabler's address and holding a knife on his pregnant wife, belting the man himself in the face and ''[[RefugeInAudacity choking Casey]]'' [[RefugeInAudacity during her trial]], [[spoiler: the latter which got her acquitted. Upon the unit realizing that they've been had, they end up with enough evidence to arrest ''[[RevengeByProxy her sister for the crime instead.]]'' As they lead her away, Janis repeatedly cries out]] "We were abused!", but is highly unlikely to change the outcome this time.
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