History YMMV / KnightsofTheOldRepublic

21st Jul '16 11:04:33 AM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Most fans either adore Carth to pieces or outright loathe him. Bastila often gets similar reactions.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Most fans either adore Carth to pieces or outright loathe him. Bastila often gets similar reactions.
19th Jul '16 6:24:08 PM nogitsunebi
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The setting arose from the 90's series ''ComicBook/TalesOfTheJedi''. The video game came out around the same time as the prequels and hewed to the ShinyLookingSpaceships and "no attachments for Jedi" elements of the films, despite being set only forty years after ''Tales''. Not only was the aesthetic different, the Bastila romance involved "against the Jedi Code" angst and Jolee spoke of a "forbidden" marriage that took place at the same time Thon and Arca Jeth vocally approved of their students ''openly dating''. When the comics came out in 2006, they returned somewhat to the UsedFuture look, had Jedi family and attachments, and established that "no romance" was a ''faction'' in the Order that won out in the four decades between ''Tales'' and ''Knights''.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The setting arose from the 90's series ''ComicBook/TalesOfTheJedi''. The video game came out around the same time as the prequels and hewed to the ShinyLookingSpaceships and "no attachments for Jedi" elements of the films, despite being set only forty years after ''Tales''. Not only was the aesthetic different, the Bastila romance involved "against the Jedi Code" angst and Jolee spoke of a "forbidden" marriage that took place at the same time Thon and Arca Jeth vocally approved of their students ''openly dating''. When the comics came out in 2006, they returned somewhat to the UsedFuture look, had Jedi family and attachments, and established that "no romance" was championed by a ''faction'' in ''minority faction'' within the Order that won out in the four decades between ''Tales'' and ''Knights''.



** Carth's line about hoping someone would do the same for his family after revealing he'd called in storm warnings to Serroco on the off chance Zayne was telling the truth about the planet going to be bombed? A lot more bittersweet if you've played the video game and know [[spoiler: his wife dies when the Sith bombard Telos.]]
** After preventing the orbital bombardment of Serroco from being a total holocaust by calling in bogus tornado warnings and causing the native aliens to retreat to underground bunkers, Carth tells Zayne that "I hope, if it comes down to it, that someone would play the same trick on my family." He later loses a wife and son when his own captain defects and glasses his homeworld.

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** Carth's line about hoping someone would do the same for his family after revealing he'd called in storm warnings to Serroco on the off chance Zayne was telling the truth about the planet going to be bombed? A lot more bittersweet if you've played the video game and know [[spoiler: his wife dies when the Sith bombard Telos.]]
** After preventing the orbital bombardment of Serroco from being a total holocaust by calling in bogus tornado warnings and causing the native aliens to retreat to underground bunkers, Carth tells Zayne that "I hope, if it comes down to it, that someone would play the same trick on my family." [[spoiler: He later loses a wife and son when his own captain defects and glasses his homeworld. homeworld.]]
10th Jul '16 10:43:30 AM nombretomado
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When the game came out, BioWare was still relatively new to non-isometric gaming and the idea of a ''Star Wars'' RPG set in the franchise's ancient history was novel and exciting. Now, with a more-mature BioWare coming out with better games, and with many other titles, including its own sequel, improving on it in many ways, the original ''Knights of the Old Republic'' can come off as a bog-standard console RPG with bland and simplistic writing to more modern audiences.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: When the game came out, BioWare Creator/BioWare was still relatively new to non-isometric gaming and the idea of a ''Star Wars'' RPG set in the franchise's ancient history was novel and exciting. Now, with a more-mature BioWare [=BioWare=] coming out with better games, and with many other titles, including its own sequel, improving on it in many ways, the original ''Knights of the Old Republic'' can come off as a bog-standard console RPG with bland and simplistic writing to more modern audiences.
22nd Jun '16 6:49:13 AM Hawaii_Knut
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** Canderous Ordo. An mandalorian [[OldSoldier ex-warlord]] and one of your best combat oriented companions. [[BadassNormal It doesn't matter if he can't use the force]]. He can mow down force users as easily as everyone else.

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** Canderous Ordo. An mandalorian [[OldSoldier ex-warlord]] and one of your best combat oriented companions. [[BadassNormal It doesn't matter if he can't use the force]]. He can mow down force users as easily as everyone anyone else.
22nd Jun '16 6:48:22 AM Hawaii_Knut
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** Canderous Ordo. An mandalorian [[OldSoldier ex-warlord]] and one of your best combat oriented companions. [[BadassNormal It doesn't matter if he can't use the force]]. He can mow down force users as easily as everyone else.
15th Jun '16 8:11:56 AM erforce
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!YMMV for the video game ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'':

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!YMMV !!YMMV for the video game ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'':



* BrokenBase: In a case rather similar to ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry'', whether the game has stood the test of time as a fun, worthwhile gaming experience, or is a bland, bog-standard RPG so thoroughly surpassed by its successors that it's boring.

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* BrokenBase: In a case rather similar to ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry'', ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry1'', whether the game has stood the test of time as a fun, worthwhile gaming experience, or is a bland, bog-standard RPG so thoroughly surpassed by its successors that it's boring.



!YMMV for the comic book ''ComicBook/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'':

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!YMMV !!YMMV for the comic book ''ComicBook/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'':
11th Jun '16 12:01:06 PM darthbutters
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* CompleteMonster: Chuundar, Wookiee Chieftain and [[spoiler:Zalbaar's brother]]. An unrepentant traitor, usurper, and would-be [[spoiler:patricide]], he helps Czerka enclave his people in exchange for control over them, framing and banishing any who threaten to expose him. He rules like a dictator, uses the weapons Czerka gives him in exchange for slaves to arm death squads, and tries to send the player to kill [[spoiler:his own father, Freyyr]] despite the fact that [[spoiler:Freyyr]] is exiled, insane, and incapable of offering any resistance to his rule. In a game crawling with larger-than-life who use the Force and bomb planets into dust, he is probably the most believably evil character.
6th Jun '16 3:46:50 PM SpectralTime
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** Manaan. Lots of running around, little fighting, and plenty of endlessly looped Selkath speech audio as you develop eyestrain reading all the subtitled text. You ''will'' be tempted to murder every Selkath in the house by the time you're done.

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** Manaan. Lots of running around, little fighting, and plenty of endlessly looped Selkath speech audio as you develop eyestrain reading all the subtitled text. You ''will'' be tempted to murder every Selkath in the house by the time you're done. And the scuba suit segments take ''forever''.



** Kashyyk. It's full of monotonous "go here, get that" type of quests, doesn't give you a lot of choice in how the story plays out, the terrain is frustrating...but Jolee Bindo is a useful and necessary character, especially in the later stages of the game, and the sooner you get him, the better.

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** Kashyyk.Kashyyyk. It's full of monotonous "go here, get that" type of quests, doesn't give you a lot of choice in how the story plays out, the terrain is frustrating... but Jolee Bindo is a useful and necessary character, especially in the later stages of the game, and the sooner you get him, the better.



** Haazen began his career in evil as a failed, jealous Padawan who murdered his former best friend Barristan Draay during the Great Sith War. His body rebuilt and scarred, Haazen's soul became as twisted as his outward appearance. Ruthlessly manipulating other Jedi into murdering their own Padawans, Haazen had Coruscant bombed from orbit to initiate a war that would allow him to destroy and rebuild the Sith and Jedi orders while ruling them from within. Haazen kept the true leader of the Convenant and the only one who might have stopped him in a state of horrible suspended animation where she could perceive every atrocity he manipulated her son in to committing, including the deaths of children. A man [[TheResenter defined by jealousy and hatred]], Haazen's grand goals of plunging the galaxy and causing the deaths of countless innocents while perverting the Jedi Order towards darkness were nothing more than an attempt to feed his ego and spit on the grave of Barristan Draay.

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** Haazen began his career in evil as a failed, jealous Padawan who murdered his former best friend Barristan Draay during the Great Sith War. His body rebuilt and scarred, Haazen's soul became as twisted as his outward appearance. Ruthlessly manipulating other Jedi into murdering their own Padawans, Haazen had Coruscant bombed from orbit to initiate a war that would allow him to destroy and rebuild the Sith and Jedi orders while ruling them from within. Haazen kept the true leader of the Convenant and the only one who might have stopped him in a state of horrible suspended animation where she could perceive every atrocity he manipulated her son in to into committing, including the deaths of children. A man [[TheResenter defined by jealousy and hatred]], Haazen's grand goals of plunging the galaxy in war and darkness and causing the deaths of countless innocents while perverting the Jedi Order towards darkness evil were nothing more than [[EvilIsPetty all motivated by an attempt to feed his ego and spit on the grave of Barristan Draay.a man who'd shown him nothing but kindness]].



** Zayne and Shel's reconcilliation in Knights of Suffering, especially considering the fact that she was planning to kill him less then 15 minutes earlier. Her crying into his shoulder while hugging him probably helped to establish this atmosphere.

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** Zayne and Shel's reconcilliation reconciliation in Knights of Suffering, especially considering the fact that she was planning to kill him less then 15 fifteen minutes earlier. Her crying into his shoulder while hugging him probably helped to establish this atmosphere.
6th Jun '16 2:01:42 PM arsepoetica
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** Kashyyk. It's full of monotonous "go here, get that" type of quests, doesn't give you a lot of choice in how the story plays out, the terrain is frustrating...but Jolee Bindo is a useful and necessary character, especially in the later stages of the game, and the sooner you get him, the better.
23rd May '16 4:57:32 AM eowynjedi
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The setting arose from the 90's series ''ComicBook/TalesOfTheJedi''. The video game came out around the same time as the prequels and hewed to the ShinyLookingSpaceships and "no attachments for Jedi" elements of the films, despite being set only forty years after ''Tales''. Not only was the aesthetic different, the Bastila romance involved "against the Jedi Code" angst and Jolee spoke of a "forbidden" marriage that took place at the same time nobody cared about two Jedi Knights dating. When the comics came out in 2006, they returned somewhat to the UsedFuture look, had Jedi family and attachments, and established that "no romance" was a ''faction'' in the Order that won out in the four decades between ''Tales'' and ''Knights''.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The setting arose from the 90's series ''ComicBook/TalesOfTheJedi''. The video game came out around the same time as the prequels and hewed to the ShinyLookingSpaceships and "no attachments for Jedi" elements of the films, despite being set only forty years after ''Tales''. Not only was the aesthetic different, the Bastila romance involved "against the Jedi Code" angst and Jolee spoke of a "forbidden" marriage that took place at the same time nobody cared about two Jedi Knights dating.Thon and Arca Jeth vocally approved of their students ''openly dating''. When the comics came out in 2006, they returned somewhat to the UsedFuture look, had Jedi family and attachments, and established that "no romance" was a ''faction'' in the Order that won out in the four decades between ''Tales'' and ''Knights''.
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