History YMMV / KirbySuperStar

8th Aug '16 10:17:37 AM MissConception
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: In the ''Ultra'' version of The Great Cave Offensive, a few of the treasures are changed. Most notably, all four seasonal hearts were replaced (Springtime was replaced with the Seasons Heart, while Summertime, Autumntime, and Wintertime were respectively replaced with the [[VideoGame/KirbyCanvasCurse Power Paintbrush]], [[VideoGame/KirbySqueakSquad Triple-Star Cane]], and [[VideoGame/AnimalCrossing Gold Watering Can]] respectively). However, replacing some of the more generic items with {{Shout Out}}s (such as the Zebra Mask with the [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Phanto]] [[VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic Mask]], the Nunchucks with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAirRide (Hydra) Machine Parts]] and the Dud with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAndTheAmazingMirror Cell Phone]]) is usually considered a good decision.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: In the ''Ultra'' version of The Great Cave Offensive, a few of the treasures are changed. Most notably, all four seasonal hearts were replaced (Springtime was replaced with the Seasons Heart, while Summertime, Autumntime, and Wintertime were respectively replaced with the [[VideoGame/KirbyCanvasCurse Power Paintbrush]], [[VideoGame/KirbySqueakSquad Triple-Star Cane]], and [[VideoGame/AnimalCrossing Gold Watering Can]] respectively).Can]]). However, replacing some of the more generic items with {{Shout Out}}s (such as the Zebra Mask with the [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Phanto]] [[VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic Mask]], the Nunchucks with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAirRide (Hydra) Machine Parts]] and the Dud with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAndTheAmazingMirror Cell Phone]]) is usually considered a good decision.
8th Aug '16 10:17:10 AM MissConception
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: In the ''Ultra'' version of The Great Cave Offensive, a few of the treasures are changed. Most notably, all four seasonal hearts were replaced (Springtime was replaced with the Seasons Heart, while Summertime, Autumntime, and Wintertime were respectively replaced with the [[VideoGame/KirbyCanvasCurse Power Paintbrush]], [[VideoGame/KirbySqueakSquad Triple-Star Cane]], and [[VideoGame/AnimalCrossing Gold Watering Can]] respectively). However, replacing some of the more generic items with {{Shout Out}}s (such as the Zebra Mask with the [[VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic Phanto]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Mask]], the Nunchucks with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAirRide (Hydra) Machine Parts]] and the Dud with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAndTheAmazingMirror Cell Phone]]) is usually considered a good decision.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: In the ''Ultra'' version of The Great Cave Offensive, a few of the treasures are changed. Most notably, all four seasonal hearts were replaced (Springtime was replaced with the Seasons Heart, while Summertime, Autumntime, and Wintertime were respectively replaced with the [[VideoGame/KirbyCanvasCurse Power Paintbrush]], [[VideoGame/KirbySqueakSquad Triple-Star Cane]], and [[VideoGame/AnimalCrossing Gold Watering Can]] respectively). However, replacing some of the more generic items with {{Shout Out}}s (such as the Zebra Mask with the [[VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic Phanto]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Phanto]] [[VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic Mask]], the Nunchucks with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAirRide (Hydra) Machine Parts]] and the Dud with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAndTheAmazingMirror Cell Phone]]) is usually considered a good decision.
8th Aug '16 10:16:18 AM MissConception
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: In the ''Ultra'' version of The Great Cave Offensive, a few of the treasures are changed. Most notably, all four seasonal hearts were replaced (Springtime was replaced with the Seasons Heart, while Summertime, Autumntime, and Wintertime were respectively replaced with the Seasons Heart, [[VideoGame/KirbyCanvasCurse Power Paintbrush]], [[VideoGame/KirbySqueakSquad Triple-Star Cane]], and [[VideoGame/AnimalCrossing Gold Watering Can]] respectively). However, replacing some of the more generic items with {{Shout Out}}s (such as the Zebra Mask with the [[VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic Phanto]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Mask]], the Nunchucks with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAirRide (Hydra) Machine Parts]] and the Dud with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAndTheAmazingMirror Cell Phone]]) is usually considered a good decision.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: In the ''Ultra'' version of The Great Cave Offensive, a few of the treasures are changed. Most notably, all four seasonal hearts were replaced (Springtime was replaced with the Seasons Heart, while Summertime, Autumntime, and Wintertime were respectively replaced with the Seasons Heart, [[VideoGame/KirbyCanvasCurse Power Paintbrush]], [[VideoGame/KirbySqueakSquad Triple-Star Cane]], and [[VideoGame/AnimalCrossing Gold Watering Can]] respectively). However, replacing some of the more generic items with {{Shout Out}}s (such as the Zebra Mask with the [[VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic Phanto]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Mask]], the Nunchucks with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAirRide (Hydra) Machine Parts]] and the Dud with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAndTheAmazingMirror Cell Phone]]) is usually considered a good decision.
8th Aug '16 10:15:26 AM MissConception
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* AntiClimaxBoss: Subverted with [[spoiler: Masked Dedede.]] Even though you're given the GameBreaker Hammer ability at the start of the fight, it can still be difficult to dodge his attacks and get some hits in.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: Subverted with [[spoiler: Masked Dedede.]] [[spoiler:Masked Dedede]] in ''Ultra''. Even though you're given the GameBreaker Hammer ability at the start of the fight, it can still be difficult to dodge his attacks and get some hits in.



* DesignatedVillain: NOVA getting blown up at the end of ''Milky Way Wishes'' reeks of GuiltByAssociation. ''Super Star Ultra'' manages to salvage this by revealing him to be alive and well during ''Meta Knightmare Ultra'', thanks to Meta Knight reviving him afterward.

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* DesignatedVillain: NOVA Nova getting blown up at the end of ''Milky Way Wishes'' reeks of GuiltByAssociation. ''Super Star Ultra'' manages to salvage this by revealing having Meta Knight revive him to be alive and well during in ''Meta Knightmare Ultra'', thanks to Meta Knight reviving him afterward.Ultra''.



** We have [[spoiler:Galacta Knight]], who was [[spoiler:so powerful and dangerous that he had to be sealed away]]. Sounds like some horrible villainous character, right? Exactly! That is why every other fangirl draws him as an overly-cutesy, baby-faced sweetie that loves to tickle Meta Knight. There's also the popular fan theory that [[spoiler:he's a grown-up version of Kirby]], so in that case it might be justified...
** And, of course, there's [[spoiler:Marx]]. Okay, so he did [[spoiler:incite conflict between the sun and moon just to trick Kirby into summoning NOVA, granting him the power to rule Pop Star and do whatever he pleases]], but...but he's so ''cute!'' There have been a number of fanfics either attempting to redeem him or altogether ignoring that he was evil in the first place. He's also often shown being buddies with [[spoiler:Magolor]], a similar character from ''VideoGame/KirbysReturnToDreamLand'', in fact, the two appear in a [[ExtraOreDinary Stone]] transformation in [[VideoGame/KirbyPlanetRobobot Planet Robobot!]]

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** We have [[spoiler:Galacta Knight]], Knight]] in ''Ultra'', who was [[spoiler:so powerful and dangerous that he had to be sealed away]]. Sounds like some horrible villainous character, right? Exactly! That is why every other fangirl draws him as an overly-cutesy, baby-faced sweetie that loves to tickle Meta Knight. There's also the popular fan theory that [[spoiler:he's a grown-up version of Kirby]], so in that case it might be justified...
** And, of course, there's [[spoiler:Marx]]. Okay, so he did [[spoiler:incite conflict between the sun and moon just to trick Kirby into summoning NOVA, Nova, granting him the power to rule Pop Star Popstar and do whatever he pleases]], but...but he's so ''cute!'' There have been a number of fanfics either attempting to redeem him or altogether ignoring that he was evil in the first place. He's also often shown being buddies with [[spoiler:Magolor]], a similar character from ''VideoGame/KirbysReturnToDreamLand'', in fact, the two appear in a [[ExtraOreDinary Stone]] transformation in [[VideoGame/KirbyPlanetRobobot ''[[VideoGame/KirbyPlanetRobobot Planet Robobot!]]Robobot]]''!



** [[spoiler:Marx]] is generally agreed to be the most popular villain in the series after [[spoiler:Zero Two and Magolor]].
** Among regular bosses, Heavy Lobster proved popular enough to get his own theme in the remake, appear in the [[Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa anime]], and appear as a boss in the Kirby Brawlball subgame in ''Kirby Mass Attack''.
** This was the game that introduced Bandana Dee, whose popularity became significant enough fast enough that he had several cameos before being PromotedToPlayable.

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** [[spoiler:Marx]] is generally agreed to be the most popular villain in the series after [[spoiler:Zero Two [[spoiler:0[[superscript:2]] and Magolor]].
** Among regular bosses, Heavy Lobster proved popular enough to get his own theme in the remake, appear in the [[Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa anime]], get his own theme in ''Ultra'', and appear as a boss in the Kirby Brawlball subgame in ''Kirby Mass Attack''.
''VideoGame/KirbyMassAttack''.
** This was the game that introduced Bandana Waddle Dee, whose popularity became significant enough fast enough that he had several cameos before being PromotedToPlayable.



** It's a common theory that the warring Sun and Moon in Milky Way Wishes are actually Mr. Shine and Mr. Bright, due to having similar avatars to the two's floating forms, and being a sentient sun and moon.
** Marx has PurpleEyes in canon, but that doesn't stop roughly 99% of fanart from giving him MismatchedEyes the same colors as his jester hat (except it's his right eye that is red while the left one is blue).

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** It's a common theory that the warring Sun and Moon in Milky Way Wishes are actually Mr. Shine and & Mr. Bright, due to having similar avatars to the two's floating forms, and being a sentient sun and moon.
** Marx has PurpleEyes in canon, but that doesn't stop roughly 99% of much fanart from giving him MismatchedEyes the same colors as his jester hat (except it's his right eye that is red while the left one is blue).



* FunnyMoments:During the Beginner's Show for Spring Breeze, the narrator calls Kirby "A jolly fellow!" Kirby's reaction to this is ''[[http://orig01.deviantart.net/92a8/f/2015/033/5/2/akhep8yl_by_gyroidsir-d8gha6s.jpg priceless]]''.

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* FunnyMoments:During FunnyMoments: During the Beginner's Show for Spring Breeze, the narrator calls Kirby "A "a jolly fellow!" Kirby's reaction to this is ''[[http://orig01.deviantart.net/92a8/f/2015/033/5/2/akhep8yl_by_gyroidsir-d8gha6s.jpg priceless]]''.



** Stone Kirby in ''Ultra'' completely annihilates the otherwise NintendoHard True Arena if you're willing to fight cheaply and spend a lot of time in rock form to keep from being hurt.

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** Stone Kirby in ''Ultra'' completely annihilates the otherwise NintendoHard The True Arena if you're willing to fight cheaply and spend a lot of time in rock form to keep from being hurt.



** In Milky Way Wishes, the Copy ability, which is ordinarily pointless for Kirby to have, becomes this by allowing Kirby to bypass the gimmick of Milky Way Wishes and get his ability to copy back. Consequently, the Copy ability is very well hidden. TAC, the ability's Helper, is similarly helpful. His attack is lightning fast, does surprisingly high damage, and his guard makes him completely unhittable. Also, he fully heals when copying an ability.
** Jet is by far the best ability in the game for [[SpeedRun speedrunning.]] Kirby moves extremely fast with the ability and can even [[SkippableBoss bypass some minibosses]] due to how high the Jet can fly, causing it to completely fly over the usual area that would trigger the miniboss battle. Its only weakness is that it isn't very effective against bosses compared to, say, Plasma or Hammer.
** Any ability that offers a flexible throw attack, such as Fighter, Suplex, Yo-yo, etc. This is mainly since if you can get your hands on any object/enemy the boss or enemy throws out, you can toss it right into them to deal huge damage.

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** In Milky Way Wishes, the Copy ability, Ability, which is ordinarily pointless for Kirby to have, becomes this by allowing Kirby to bypass the gimmick of Milky Way Wishes and get his ability to copy back. Consequently, the Copy ability Ability is very well hidden. TAC, T.A.C., the ability's Helper, is similarly helpful. His attack is lightning fast, does surprisingly high damage, and his guard makes him completely unhittable. Also, he fully heals when copying an ability.
** Jet is by far the best ability in the game for [[SpeedRun speedrunning.]] speedrunning]]. Kirby moves extremely fast with the ability and can even [[SkippableBoss bypass some minibosses]] due to how high the Jet can fly, causing it to completely fly over the usual area that would trigger the miniboss battle. Its only weakness is that it isn't very effective against bosses compared to, say, Plasma or Hammer.
** Any ability that offers a flexible throw attack, such as Fighter, Suplex, Yo-yo, Yo-Yo, etc. This is mainly since if you can get your hands on any object/enemy the boss or enemy throws out, you can toss it right into them to deal huge damage.



** Combining this with MostAnnoyingSound gives you the final phase of ''"Revenge Of Meta Knight"''. Those sirens...

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** Combining this with MostAnnoyingSound gives you the final phase of ''"Revenge Of of Meta Knight"''. Those sirens...



* LastLousyPoint: The ''Ultra'' remake is ''technically'' 100% finished without doing this, but if you actually want to get everything in the game (meaning video 00 in the Theater), you have to beat Helper to Hero using all twenty helpers. Not only is that incredibly tedious, but a select few of them ''really'' don't make it easy.
* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:Marx, who tricks the Sun and the Moon into fighting, manipulates Kirby into summoning the Galactic Nova, then steals his wish to gain enough power to become the ruler of Planet Popstar]].

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* LastLousyPoint: The ''Ultra'' remake is ''technically'' 100% finished without doing this, but if you actually want to get everything in the game (meaning video movie 00 in the Theater), you have to beat Helper to Hero using all twenty helpers. Not only is that incredibly tedious, but a select few of them ''really'' don't make it easy.
* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:Marx, who tricks the Sun and the Moon into fighting, manipulates Kirby into summoning the Galactic Nova, then steals his wish to gain enough power to become the ruler of Planet Popstar]].



* ScrappyMechanic: You can't get rid of your ability by simply pressing Select like in all other ''Kirby'' games. You have to create a Helper and un-create that Helper to do so, which gets tedious after a while. The ''Ultra'' remake restores the ability.

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* ScrappyMechanic: You can't get rid of your ability by simply pressing Select like in all other ''Kirby'' games. You have to create a Helper and un-create that Helper to do so, which gets tedious after a while. The ''Ultra'' remake restores the ability.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: In the ''Ultra'' remake of The Great Cave Offensive, a few of the treasures are changed. Most notably, all 4 Seasonal Hearts are mashed into one treasure (Summertime, Autumntime, and Wintertime were replaced with the [[VideoGame/KirbyCanvasCurse Power Paintbrush]], [[VideoGame/KirbySqueakSquad Triple-Star Cane]], and [[VideoGame/AnimalCrossing Gold Watering Can]] respectively). However, replacing some of the more generic items with {{Shout Out}}s (such as the Sword with the [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Falchion]] and the Dud with the Cell Phone from ''VideoGame/KirbyAndTheAmazingMirror'') is usually considered a good decision.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: In the ''Ultra'' remake version of The Great Cave Offensive, a few of the treasures are changed. Most notably, all 4 Seasonal Hearts are mashed into one treasure (Summertime, four seasonal hearts were replaced (Springtime was replaced with the Seasons Heart, while Summertime, Autumntime, and Wintertime were respectively replaced with the Seasons Heart, [[VideoGame/KirbyCanvasCurse Power Paintbrush]], [[VideoGame/KirbySqueakSquad Triple-Star Cane]], and [[VideoGame/AnimalCrossing Gold Watering Can]] respectively). However, replacing some of the more generic items with {{Shout Out}}s (such as the Sword Zebra Mask with the [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Falchion]] [[VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic Phanto]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Mask]], the Nunchucks with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAirRide (Hydra) Machine Parts]] and the Dud with the [[VideoGame/KirbyAndTheAmazingMirror Cell Phone from ''VideoGame/KirbyAndTheAmazingMirror'') Phone]]) is usually considered a good decision.
5th Aug '16 2:41:23 PM Troper64
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** And, of course, there's [[spoiler:Marx]]. Okay, so he did [[spoiler:incite conflict between the sun and moon just to trick Kirby into summoning NOVA, granting him the power to rule Pop Star and do whatever he pleases]], but...but he's so ''cute!'' There have been a number of fanfics either attempting to redeem him or altogether ignoring that he was evil in the first place. He's also often shown being buddies with [[spoiler:Magolor]], a similar character from ''VideoGame/KirbysReturnToDreamLand''.

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** And, of course, there's [[spoiler:Marx]]. Okay, so he did [[spoiler:incite conflict between the sun and moon just to trick Kirby into summoning NOVA, granting him the power to rule Pop Star and do whatever he pleases]], but...but he's so ''cute!'' There have been a number of fanfics either attempting to redeem him or altogether ignoring that he was evil in the first place. He's also often shown being buddies with [[spoiler:Magolor]], a similar character from ''VideoGame/KirbysReturnToDreamLand''.''VideoGame/KirbysReturnToDreamLand'', in fact, the two appear in a [[ExtraOreDinary Stone]] transformation in [[VideoGame/KirbyPlanetRobobot Planet Robobot!]]
4th Aug '16 9:40:46 PM GF93
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* DesignatedVillain: NOVA getting blown up at the end of ''Milky Way Wishes'' reeks of GuiltByAssociation. ''Super Star Ultra'' manages to salvage this by revealing him to be alive and well during ''Meta Knightmare''.

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* DesignatedVillain: NOVA getting blown up at the end of ''Milky Way Wishes'' reeks of GuiltByAssociation. ''Super Star Ultra'' manages to salvage this by revealing him to be alive and well during ''Meta Knightmare''.Knightmare Ultra'', thanks to Meta Knight reviving him afterward.
1st Aug '16 2:29:33 AM bowserbros
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** The Plasma and Hammer Ability can count as this as well. Plasma by virtue of being the only power with a projectile that goes across the whole screen (provided you've done at least a little charging), and Hammer because it's just so damn powerful.

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** The Plasma and Hammer Ability can count as this as well. Plasma by virtue of being the only power with a projectile that goes across the whole screen (provided you've done at least a little charging), charging, which isn't all that hard to do when you can just quickly rotate the d-pad/control stick while guarding), and Hammer because it's just so damn powerful.



* HilariousInHindsight: One of the levels in Dyna Blade is called [[WebAnimation/CharlieTheUnicorn Candy Mountain.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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One of the levels in Dyna Blade is called [[WebAnimation/CharlieTheUnicorn Candy Mountain.]]]]
** The main premise of The Great Cave Offensive, where Kirby winds up in a vast subterranean world after falling down a hole, would be revisited by [[VideoGame/{{Undertale}} a certain popular indie game]] 19 years later. The fact that two Lovelies (happy-looking flower enemies that try to eat Kirby) appear very early in the former makes the coincidence even more hilarious.
17th Jul '16 9:59:04 PM TheGrandestDad
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* FunnyMoments:During the Beginner's Show for Spring Breeze, the narrator calls Kirby "A jolly fellow!" Kirby's reaction to this is ''[[http://orig01.deviantart.net/92a8/f/2015/033/5/2/akhep8yl_by_gyroidsir-d8gha6s.jpg priceless]]''

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* FunnyMoments:During the Beginner's Show for Spring Breeze, the narrator calls Kirby "A jolly fellow!" Kirby's reaction to this is ''[[http://orig01.deviantart.net/92a8/f/2015/033/5/2/akhep8yl_by_gyroidsir-d8gha6s.jpg priceless]]''priceless]]''.
17th Jul '16 9:58:27 PM TheGrandestDad
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* FunnyMoments:During the Beginner's Show for Spring Breeze, the narrator calls Kirby "A jolly fellow!" Kirby's reaction to this is ''[[http://orig01.deviantart.net/92a8/f/2015/033/5/2/akhep8yl_by_gyroidsir-d8gha6s.jpg priceless]]''
21st Jun '16 3:39:19 AM Gravityman
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** Fatty Whale seemed to have been specifically designed to teach the new guarding mechanic, as he is actually rather difficult without using it. If you ''do'' use it, the fight becomes far more annoying and tedious than difficult, as his enormous size, combined with his fast and flying attack pattern, make it difficult to get good hits in on him with regular abilities, but guarding not only prevents you from taking CollisionDamage, but actually deals ScratchDamage to ''him'' as long as you keep it up. As nice as that is, the fight will take a long time regardless, and it's still definitely possible to get caught off guard by some of his attacks.



** Fatty Whale counts as well due to his massive size taking up most of the screen, and his tendency to bounce around.
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