History YMMV / Kirby

22nd May '17 9:24:10 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* CompleteMonster:
** [[ManipulativeBastard Marx]]. When first introduced, Marx comes off as extremely [[FauxAffablyEvil kind and helpful]], telling Kirby to use the power of the surrounding stars to summon Nova and wish for the sun and moon to stop fighting. However, when Kirby succeeds in gathering the stars and summon Nova, Marx knocks Kirby aside to make his own wish--complete control of Popstar. He reveals that he actually tricked the Sun and Moon into fighting each other, tricked Kirby into doing his dirty work for him, and that this was all part of a master plan to conquer Popstar. After leaving Kirby to die in space and sending Nova to ColonyDrop Popstar, the power Kirby had gathered comes together and creates a Starship for him to stop Nova with. When Kirby destroys Nova's heart, an enraged Marx tries to kill Kirby himself.

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* CompleteMonster:
** [[ManipulativeBastard Marx]]. When first introduced, Marx comes off as extremely [[FauxAffablyEvil kind and helpful]], telling Kirby to use the power of the surrounding stars to summon Nova and wish for the sun and moon to stop fighting. However, when Kirby succeeds in gathering the stars and summon Nova, Marx knocks Kirby aside to make his own wish--complete control of Popstar. He reveals that he actually tricked the Sun and Moon into fighting each other, tricked Kirby into doing his dirty work for him, and that this was all part of a master plan to conquer Popstar. After leaving Kirby to die in space and sending Nova to ColonyDrop Popstar, the power Kirby had gathered comes together and creates a Starship for him to stop Nova with. When Kirby destroys Nova's heart, an enraged Marx tries to kill Kirby himself.
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22nd May '17 9:17:50 AM UtterKoala
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** [[ManipulativeBastard Marx]]. When first introduced, Marx comes off as extremely [[FauxAffablyEvil kind and helpful]], telling Kirby to use the power of the surrounding stars to summon Nova and wish for the sun and moon to stop fighting. However, when Kirby succeeds in gathering the stars and summon Nova, Marx knocks Kirby aside to make his own wish--complete control of Popstar. He reveals that he actually tricked the Sun and Moon into fighting each other, tricked Kirby into doing his dirty work for him, and that this was all part of a master plan to conquer Popstar. After leaving Kirby to die in space and sending Nova to ColonyDrop Popstar, the power Kirby had gathered comes together and creates a Starship for him to stop Nova with.

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** [[ManipulativeBastard Marx]]. When first introduced, Marx comes off as extremely [[FauxAffablyEvil kind and helpful]], telling Kirby to use the power of the surrounding stars to summon Nova and wish for the sun and moon to stop fighting. However, when Kirby succeeds in gathering the stars and summon Nova, Marx knocks Kirby aside to make his own wish--complete control of Popstar. He reveals that he actually tricked the Sun and Moon into fighting each other, tricked Kirby into doing his dirty work for him, and that this was all part of a master plan to conquer Popstar. After leaving Kirby to die in space and sending Nova to ColonyDrop Popstar, the power Kirby had gathered comes together and creates a Starship for him to stop Nova with. When Kirby destroys Nova's heart, an enraged Marx tries to kill Kirby himself.
22nd May '17 8:25:02 AM UtterKoala
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* CompleteMonster:
** [[ManipulativeBastard Marx]]. When first introduced, Marx comes off as extremely [[FauxAffablyEvil kind and helpful]], telling Kirby to use the power of the surrounding stars to summon Nova and wish for the sun and moon to stop fighting. However, when Kirby succeeds in gathering the stars and summon Nova, Marx knocks Kirby aside to make his own wish--complete control of Popstar. He reveals that he actually tricked the Sun and Moon into fighting each other, tricked Kirby into doing his dirty work for him, and that this was all part of a master plan to conquer Popstar. After leaving Kirby to die in space and sending Nova to ColonyDrop Popstar, the power Kirby had gathered comes together and creates a Starship for him to stop Nova with.
20th Apr '17 6:45:54 AM Anddrix
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* HellIsThatNoise:
** Combining this with MostAnnoyingSound gives you [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thahQTUE7WU the final phase]] of Revenge Of Meta Knight.
** The music for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3kGiA3EGP4 Ripple Star's second level]]. The cute SugarBowl of the first level is [[MoodWhiplash quickly cut off]] when you reach the second and are welcomed with the ruined fairy castle and hear that ScareChord dirge.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfHah9s6BWE That... bloodcurling... scream!]]
** Most bosses that have a vocal laugh can qualify as this, namely [[VideoGame/KirbyTripleDeluxe Queen Sectonia]] and [[VideoGame/KirbyPlanetRobobot President Haltmann]], both of whom laugh constantly in their boss fights. Also combined with MostAnnoyingSound. The latter is even worse in that [[spoiler: you can faintly hear his death cries as Star Dream Soul OS's core gets more and more damaged]].
25th Feb '17 5:56:48 PM Tavernier
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** Who is Galacta Knight? Why did people fear his power so much? How was he [[SealedBadassInACan sealed up]]? Where did he come from; where did he go?

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** Who is Galacta Knight? Why did people fear his power so much? much?[[note]]Planet Robobot yields some information, casually implying him to be a PlanetDestroyer.[[/note]] How was he [[SealedBadassInACan sealed up]]? Where did he come from; where did he go?



** In ''Kirby's Return to Dream Land'', what was Magolor talking about when he said that someone on Halcandra may know Kirby? Or, when he said that the Ancients created lots of ancient artifacts? What does "clockwork stars" refer to?

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** In ''Kirby's Return to Dream Land'', what was Magolor talking about when he said that someone on Halcandra may know Kirby? Or, when he said that the Ancients created lots of ancient artifacts? What does "clockwork stars" refer to?to?[[note]]Presumably beings of the same "family" as Galactic Nova from Super Star (of which there are two known).[[/note]]



** Kirby [[{{Misblamed}} suffers a reputation]] for NiceJobBreakingItHero when he's actually a victim of PoorCommunicationKills, because nobody tells him what's going on until it's far too late to do anything about it, and/or being a gullible UnwittingPawn for the real baddie.

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** Kirby [[{{Misblamed}} suffers a reputation]] for NiceJobBreakingItHero when he's actually a victim of PoorCommunicationKills, because nobody tells him what's going on until it's far too late to do anything about it, and/or or he's being a gullible UnwittingPawn for the real baddie.baddie, and the good guys ''still'' won't talk to him.
15th Feb '17 5:56:36 AM bowserbros
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* SacredCow: While ''Kirby'' may not be as popular as other Creator/{{Nintendo}} franchises, it has an extremely good reputation, and it's rare to find a Nintendo fan that outright hates the games. Additionally, while some may call a few games "lacking", the opinion that Kirby has never had a truly "bad" game is common, which is a rarity among Nintendo series.

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* SacredCow: While ''Kirby'' may not be as popular as other Creator/{{Nintendo}} franchises, it has an extremely good reputation, and it's rare to find a Nintendo fan that outright hates the games. Additionally, Furthermore, while some may call a few games "lacking", the opinion that Kirby has never had a truly "bad" game is common, which is a rarity among Nintendo series.
15th Feb '17 5:55:47 AM bowserbros
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* SacredCow: While ''Kirby'' may not be as popular as other Creator/{{Nintendo}} franchises, it has an extremely good reputation, and it's rare to find a Nintendo fan that outright hates the games. While some may call a few games "lacking", the opinion that Kirby has never had a truly "bad" game is common, which is a rarity among Nintendo series.

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* SacredCow: While ''Kirby'' may not be as popular as other Creator/{{Nintendo}} franchises, it has an extremely good reputation, and it's rare to find a Nintendo fan that outright hates the games. While Additionally, while some may call a few games "lacking", the opinion that Kirby has never had a truly "bad" game is common, which is a rarity among Nintendo series.



** Kirby's gender is actually a mystery in the Japanese games, and the original developers refuse to designate an official gender. Averted in most translations since gender-neutral pronouns don't always work out (especially in English, which usually defaults to the masculine form).

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** Kirby's gender is actually a mystery in the Japanese games, and the original developers refuse to designate an official gender. Averted in most translations since gender-neutral pronouns don't always work out (especially in English, English and Spanish, which usually defaults default to the masculine form).
3rd Feb '17 12:28:47 PM N1KF
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* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** For pretty much anybody introduced in the [[FanNickname Dark Matter Trilogy]], there are many impatiently waiting for them to return [[PutOnABus from the bus]] in a non-cameo appearance. Some of these include:
*** The Animal Buddies, mainly for being a PowerUpMount adding lot of variety to gameplay and physics.
*** Dark Matter, for being a simple, but threatening and mysterious EldritchAbomination. Many rejoined when [[spoiler:Dark Matter was cloned]] in ''Planet Robobot''.
*** Adeleine became rather popular for being [[TokenHuman the only non-cameo human in the series]], as well as being a boss with a unique battle style. Many appreciated that Adeleine got a collectible sticker after being absent for over a decade, but still would like to see her return.
*** Zero, for being an EldritchAbomination [[spoiler:that rips out its own eye to attack you]] absurdly more [[NightmareFuel disturbing]] for an E-rated Creator/{{Nintendo}} villain. [[spoiler:Its One-Winged Angel form]] in ''Kirby 64'' earned it even more fans. It helps that [[spoiler:there's even more eyeball bleeding and dramatic music]].
** Marx became rather popular for being a MagnificentBastard.
** As far as [[PowerCopying Copy Abilities]] go, Water, Yo-yo, and Mirror became rather popular despite not appearing in many games.
3rd Feb '17 11:12:13 AM mlsmithca
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*** Dark Matter, for being a simple, but threatening and mysterious EldritchAbomination. [[AndTheFandomRejoiced Many rejoined]] when [[spoiler:Dark Matter was cloned]] in ''Planet Robobot''.
*** Adeleine became rather popular for being [[TokenHuman the only non-cameo human in the series]], as well as being a boss with a unique battle style. [[AndTheFandomRejoiced Many appreciated]] that Adeleine got a collectible sticker after being absent for over a decade, but still would like to see her return.

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*** Dark Matter, for being a simple, but threatening and mysterious EldritchAbomination. [[AndTheFandomRejoiced Many rejoined]] rejoined when [[spoiler:Dark Matter was cloned]] in ''Planet Robobot''.
*** Adeleine became rather popular for being [[TokenHuman the only non-cameo human in the series]], as well as being a boss with a unique battle style. [[AndTheFandomRejoiced Many appreciated]] appreciated that Adeleine got a collectible sticker after being absent for over a decade, but still would like to see her return.
3rd Feb '17 10:20:26 AM N1KF
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** [[spoiler: Dark Crafter]] makes the above two bosses look difficult. It only has one, rather easy to dodge, attack and the strategy to defeat it is the same as '''[[WarmUpBoss Whispy Woods.]]'''

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** [[spoiler: Dark Crafter]] makes the above two bosses look difficult. It only has one, rather easy to dodge, attack and the strategy to defeat it is the same as '''[[WarmUpBoss Whispy Woods.]]'''Woods]].'''



** There has been a debate over the different kinds of Kirby games ever since ''VideoGame/KirbySqueakSquad''. While not the the extent of the [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Zelda]] franchise's TheyChangedItNowItSucks[=/=]ItsTheSameSoItSucks, there are similarities at its core. Which Kirby experience is better? The Classic style platformers where Kirby absorbs enemies to gain their abilities, or the ones that innovate (the likes of VideoGame/KirbyCanvasCurse or Videogame/KirbysEpicYarn) where the gameplay is given an overhaul. Critics of the former feel the formula grows stale, whilst critics of the latter feel that it's too gimmicky. Of course quite a few fans like both and want to see what Nintendo comes out with next.
** The debate over Console vs. Handheld games, and whether or not Nintendo favors one group over the other.
** Should the series stay a sidescroller or should it have 3D platformer titles?
** Are Ado and Adeleine the same character or not?
** What director Shinya Kumazaki said about the canonicity of events in extra modes and Arena, i.e "not everything is true" and "they're what-if scenarios". Some fans would say it's a given because some things happening in the extra modes would contradict what happened in the main story, while some others lament that the events in those are too awesome not to be true.

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** There has been a debate over the different kinds of Kirby games ever since ''VideoGame/KirbySqueakSquad''. While not the the extent of the [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Zelda]] franchise's TheyChangedItNowItSucks[=/=]ItsTheSameSoItSucks, there are similarities at its core. Which Kirby experience is better? The Classic style platformers where Kirby absorbs enemies to gain their abilities, or the ones that innovate (the likes of VideoGame/KirbyCanvasCurse or Videogame/KirbysEpicYarn) where the gameplay is given an overhaul. Critics of the former feel the formula grows stale, whilst critics of the latter feel that it's too gimmicky. Of course quite a few fans like both and want to see what Nintendo Creator/{{Nintendo}} comes out with next.
** The debate over Console vs. Handheld games, and whether or not Nintendo Creator/{{Nintendo}} favors one group over the other.
** Should the series stay a sidescroller or should it have [[VideoGame3DLeap 3D platformer platformer]] titles?
** Are Ado and Adeleine the same character or not?
not?
** What director Shinya Kumazaki said about [[WordOfGod the canonicity of events events]] in extra modes and Arena, [[BossRush Arena]], i.e "not everything is true" and "they're what-if scenarios". Some fans would say it's a given because some things happening in the extra modes would contradict what happened in the main story, while some others lament that the events in those are too awesome not to be true.true.
* CanonFodder: While lots of story is given from FlavorText, [[AllThereInTheManual manuals]], and WordOfGod, lots of it's left unexplained and mysterious.
** Meta Knight. Where did he come from, and what is he trying to do? [[spoiler:Why does he look like Kirby? Is he the same species, or even related? Can he inhale or copy abilities?]]
** What ''is'' [[EldritchAbomination Dark Matter]], and where did it come from?
** If Gooey is related to Dark Matter [[AllThereInTheManual as implied by the anniversary booklet]], why is he good? Why does he look so much different from all other Dark Matter?
** What's the deal with Shiver Star? Why does it look like a frozen earth? Is it AfterTheEnd? [[spoiler:What was that factory made for? What are the creatures in those tubes? Did the Haltmann Works Company invade the planet?]]
** What are the "Soul" {{Final Boss}}es? Are they related, or even all [[DemonicPossession possessed]] by a common threat?
** Who was responsible for [[spoiler:Drawcia's and Paintra's painting]] in ''Canvas Curse''?
** How did Dark Nebula [[spoiler:get into its chest]], and how did [[spoiler:Meta Knight (and possibly King Dedede)]] know about it?
** Who is Galacta Knight? Why did people fear his power so much? How was he [[SealedBadassInACan sealed up]]? Where did he come from; where did he go?
** Where did Grand Doomer come from? Was it from AnotherDimension? If so, how did it get to Pop Star?
** Why does HR-D3 vaguely resemble King Dedede? How did it "drift in" from AnotherDimension?
** In ''Kirby's Return to Dream Land'', what was Magolor talking about when he said that someone on Halcandra may know Kirby? Or, when he said that the Ancients created lots of ancient artifacts? What does "clockwork stars" refer to?
** What "countless hosts" did [[spoiler:Soul of Sectonia feed on]]? Also, in ''Planet Robobot'', why was [[spoiler:Sectonia's data]] spread across 1,000 years?
** Who is [[MissingMom Susie's mother]]?
** Has the Haltmann Works Company traveled to other planets in the series? If so, what planets? Did they take over them? Rock Star? Shiver Star? Halcandra?
** In ''Planet Robobot'', in the Flavor Text for [[spoiler:the Dark Matter Clone]], what does it mean by "full potential"? [[spoiler:Will Dark Matter make a full return?]]



** Many Kirby fans think Dark Matter/Zero is a lonely, sad being that just wants some friends - though this does have some basis in canon, as it's stated that Dark Matter can't feel positive emotions and wants to destroy the world out of jealousy. The awesome battle music probably helps (''especially'' 02's music.)

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** Many Kirby fans think Dark Matter/Zero is a lonely, sad being that just wants some friends - though this does have some basis in canon, as it's stated that Dark Matter can't feel positive emotions and wants to destroy the world out of jealousy. The awesome battle music probably helps (''especially'' 02's 0[[superscript:2]]'s music.)



* FanficFuel: It helps that while lots of story is given from FlavorText, [[AllThereInTheManual manuals]], and WordOfGod, lots of it's left unexplained and mysterious.

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* FanficFuel: It helps that while lots of story is given from FlavorText, [[AllThereInTheManual manuals]], and WordOfGod, lots of it's left unexplained and mysterious.FanficFuel:



** Meta Knight. Where did he come from, and what is he trying to do? [[spoiler:Why does he look like Kirby? Is he the same species, or even related? Can he inhale or copy abilities?]]
** What ''is'' [[EldritchAbomination Dark Matter]], and where did it come from?
** If Gooey is related to Dark Matter [[AllThereInTheManual as implied by the anniversary booklet]], where did he come form, and why is he good? Why does he look so much different from all other Dark Matter?
** What's the deal with Shiver Star? Why does it look like a frozen earth? Is it AfterTheEnd? [[spoiler:What was that factory made for? What are the creatures in those tubes? Did the Haltmann Works Company invade the planet?]]
** What are the Mirror World versions of characters we haven't seen yet?
** What are the "Soul" {{Final Boss}}es? Are they related, or even all [[DemonicPossession possessed]] by a common threat?
** Who was responsible for [[spoiler:Drawcia's and Paintra's painting]] in ''Canvas Curse''?
** How did Dark Nebula [[spoiler:get into its chest]], and how did [[spoiler:Meta Knight (and possibly King Dedede)]] know about it?
** Who is Galacta Knight? Why did people fear his power so much? How was he [[SealedBadassInACan sealed up]]? Where did he come from; where did he go?
** Where did Grand Doomer come from? Was it from AnotherDimension? If so, how did it get to Pop Star?
** Why does HR-D3 vaguely resemble King Dedede? How did it "drift in" from AnotherDimension?
** In ''Kirby's Return to Dream Land'', what was Magolor talking about when he said that someone on Halcandra may know Kirby? Or, when he said that the Ancients created lots of ancient artifacts? What does "clockwork stars" refer to?
** What "countless hosts" did [[spoiler:Soul of Sectonia feed on]]? Also, in ''Planet Robobot'', why was [[spoiler:Sectonia's data]] spread across 1,000 years?
** If the Robobot Armor can take the ability of its wearer, what would happen if someone other than Kirby used it?
** Who is [[MissingMom Susie's mother]]?
** Has the Haltmann Works Company traveled to other planets in the series? If so, what planets? Did they take over them? Rock Star? Shiver Star? Halcandra?
** What would happen if other characters [[spoiler:found a wish-granting clockwork star, and what wishes would they make]]?
** In the Flavor Text for [[spoiler:the Dark Matter Clone]] in ''Planet Robobot'', what does it mean by "full potential"? [[spoiler:Will Dark Matter make a full return?]]

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** Meta Knight. Where did he come from, What would happen if other characters found NOVA [[spoiler:or another wish-granting machine]], and what is he trying to do? [[spoiler:Why does he look like Kirby? Is he the same species, or even related? Can he inhale or copy abilities?]]
** What ''is'' [[EldritchAbomination Dark Matter]], and where did it come from?
** If Gooey is related to Dark Matter [[AllThereInTheManual as implied by the anniversary booklet]], where did he come form, and why is he good? Why does he look so much different from all other Dark Matter?
** What's the deal with Shiver Star? Why does it look like a frozen earth? Is it AfterTheEnd? [[spoiler:What was that factory made for? What are the creatures in those tubes? Did the Haltmann Works Company invade the planet?]]
wishes would they make?
** What are the [[VideoGame/KirbyAndTheAmazingMirror Mirror World World]] versions of characters we haven't seen yet?
** What are the "Soul" {{Final Boss}}es? Are they related, or even all [[DemonicPossession possessed]] by a common threat?
** Who was responsible for [[spoiler:Drawcia's and Paintra's painting]] in ''Canvas Curse''?
** How did Dark Nebula [[spoiler:get into its chest]], and how did [[spoiler:Meta Knight (and possibly King Dedede)]] know about it?
** Who is Galacta Knight? Why did people fear his power so much? How was he [[SealedBadassInACan sealed up]]? Where did he come from; where did he go?
** Where did Grand Doomer come from? Was it from AnotherDimension? If so, how did it get to Pop Star?
** Why does HR-D3 vaguely resemble King Dedede? How did it "drift in" from AnotherDimension?
** In ''Kirby's Return to Dream Land'', what was Magolor talking about when he said that someone on Halcandra may know Kirby? Or, when he said that the Ancients created lots of ancient artifacts? What does "clockwork stars" refer to?
** What "countless hosts" did [[spoiler:Soul of Sectonia feed on]]? Also, in ''Planet Robobot'', why was [[spoiler:Sectonia's data]] spread across 1,000 years?
**
If the [[VideoGame/KirbyPlanetRobobot Robobot Armor Armor]] can take the ability of its wearer, what would happen if someone other than Kirby used it?
** Who is [[MissingMom Susie's mother]]?
** Has the Haltmann Works Company traveled to other planets in the series? If so, what planets? Did they take over them? Rock Star? Shiver Star? Halcandra?
** What would happen if other characters [[spoiler:found a wish-granting clockwork star, and what wishes would they make]]?
** In the Flavor Text for [[spoiler:the Dark Matter Clone]] in ''Planet Robobot'', what does it mean by "full potential"? [[spoiler:Will Dark Matter make a full return?]]
it?



** [[spoiler:And now we have our newest one; Queen Sectonia, who saw through the Floralia residents' plan to bring the hero of Dream Land to their rescue and sent Taranza to kidnap him in order to keep him from interfering with her gambit to rule Popstar as its goddess, even though she didn't count on him kidnapping Dedede instead of Kirby like she wanted him to.]]

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** [[spoiler:And now we have our newest one; Queen [[spoiler:Queen Sectonia, who saw through the Floralia residents' plan to bring the hero of Dream Land to their rescue and sent Taranza to kidnap him in order to keep him from interfering with her gambit to rule Popstar as its goddess, even though she didn't count on him kidnapping Dedede instead of Kirby like she wanted him to.]]



* SacredCow: While ''Kirby'' may not be as popular as other Nintendo franchises, it has an extremely good reputation, and it's rare to find a Nintendo fan that outright hates the games. While some may call a few games "lacking", the opinion that Kirby has never had a truly "bad" game is common, which is a rarity among Nintendo series.

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* SacredCow: While ''Kirby'' may not be as popular as other Nintendo Creator/{{Nintendo}} franchises, it has an extremely good reputation, and it's rare to find a Nintendo fan that outright hates the games. While some may call a few games "lacking", the opinion that Kirby has never had a truly "bad" game is common, which is a rarity among Nintendo series.



** ''VideoGame/KirbyAirRide'' met a lukewarm reception [[OvershadowedByAwesome due to being sandwiched between]] ''VideoGame/FZero GX'' and ''[[VideoGame/MarioKart Mario Kart: Double Dash!!]]'' Nowadays, it is considered a CultClassic and one of the highlights of the UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube library, particularly for the City Trial mode. In fact, the Smash Run mode in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' for 3DS was directly stated by Sakurai to be a SpiritualSuccessor to said mode.

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** ''VideoGame/KirbyAirRide'' met a lukewarm reception [[OvershadowedByAwesome due to being sandwiched between]] ''VideoGame/FZero GX'' and ''[[VideoGame/MarioKart Mario Kart: ''VideoGame/MarioKart: Double Dash!!]]'' Dash!!'' Nowadays, it is considered a CultClassic and one of the highlights of the UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube library, particularly for the City Trial mode. In fact, the Smash Run mode in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' for 3DS was directly stated by Sakurai to be a SpiritualSuccessor to said mode.
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