History YMMV / KingdomCome

26th May '16 7:24:22 AM AnotherGuy
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* HilariousInHindsight: Deadman's appearance in this series: he is reduced to his skeleton in his uniform. Now take a look at what his [[ComicBook/BlackestNight Black Lantern self]] looks like...

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Deadman's appearance in this series: he is reduced to his skeleton in his uniform. Now take a look at what his [[ComicBook/BlackestNight Black Lantern self]] looks like...like...
** Selina Kyle has become wealthy thanks to a massive cosmetics empire - the profession of the BigBad in the later ''Film/{{Catwoman}}'' film.
26th May '16 7:01:41 AM AnotherGuy
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: ''Kingdom Come'' inadvertently started the trend of pairing Superman and Wonder Woman in [[AlternateUniverse Elseworld comics]] [[note]]''The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Superman: Distant Fires, Superman: Red Son, JLA: Act of God, Injustice''[[/note]] before finally becoming a canon OfficialCouple in the ''ComicBook/New52''. However, while ''Kingdom Come'' devotes a great deal of time and attention to examining their relationship and crafting believable circumstances to bring them together, many modern comics just take it as a granted that the strongest man and woman will be attracted to one another, or simply write the romance poorly.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: ''Kingdom Come'' inadvertently started the trend of pairing Superman and Wonder Woman in [[AlternateUniverse Elseworld comics]] [[note]]''The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Superman: Distant Fires, Superman: Red Son, JLA: Act of God, Injustice''[[/note]] before finally becoming a canon OfficialCouple in the ''ComicBook/New52''. However, while ''Kingdom Come'' devotes a great deal of time and attention to examining their relationship and crafting believable circumstances to bring them together, many modern comics just take it as a granted that the strongest man and woman will be attracted to one another, or simply write the romance poorly. In addition, it started the idea that Wonder Woman had no issues with killing, when before this comic, she was the least violent of the major heroes in the DC Universe.
9th May '16 4:30:15 PM HamburgerTime
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** Magog ended up becoming this for the writers; they initially made him a cliched representation of everything they hated about NinetiesAntiHero and [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks the culture he represented]], but he gained unexpected depth through the writing of the series until he ended up being one of their favorite characters from it.
** Nightstar due to being a walking representation of the marriage between fan-favorite coupling Nightwing and Starfire.
** Kid Flash is also quite popular and has made frequent appearances in the regular DC Universe long before Superman did.

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** Magog ended up becoming this for the writers; they initially made him a cliched representation of everything they hated about NinetiesAntiHero and [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks the culture he represented]], but he gained unexpected depth through the writing of the series until he ended up being one of their favorite characters from it.
it. Sadly, when he was [[CanonImmigrant brought into the main universe]], he went in [[TheScrappy the other direction]].
** Nightstar due to being a walking representation of the marriage between fan-favorite coupling Nightwing and Starfire.
Starfire, and being [[MsFanservice very easy on the eyes]] besides.
** Kid Flash (Iris West, Wally's daughter) is also quite popular and has made frequent appearances in the regular DC Universe long before Superman did.



*** And they also note that the traditional heroes never had to deal with threats like Genosyde and the Murder Squad - if they had a better answer for those situations, the anti-heroes are all ears.
*** Though it's also said earlier that Genosyde blew up Belle Reve penitentiary, Arkham Asylum, *and* Blackgate killing most of Batman's enemies; this seems to imply that Genosyde was simply a more extreme version of the killer vigilantes we see in the main series.



** Considering that the Joker is an unrepentant mass-murderer that both the system and the 'classic' superheroes haven't dealt with yet, is it any surprise that the Magog's killing him is supported?

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** Considering that the Joker is an unrepentant mass-murderer that both the system and the 'classic' superheroes haven't dealt with yet, is it any surprise that the Magog's killing him is supported?supported? The {{novelization}} goes into a bit more detail, explaining that Comicbook/LoisLane had sacrificed herself to give Superman the opening he needed to arrest The Joker, and as such Magog killing him made Lois' death completely pointless.
3rd May '16 12:45:27 PM AnotherGuy
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** Hoo boy, the {{Novelization}} has Mera mentioning rumors Arthur and Diane were going to have a royal wedding to unite Themiscrya and Atlantis. Cue ''Comicbook/{{Flashpoint}}''. Yeah.
28th Apr '16 2:18:17 PM SpectralTime
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* BrokenAesop: The main plot about the divide between the old and new generation of heroes and the issue of killing violent offenders is ultimatly resolved by... killing the majority of the metahumans. Apparently murder IS the answer, as long as you dont do it with superpowers.



** Magog ended up becoming this for the writers; they initially made him a cliched representation of everything they hated about NinetiesAntiHero and [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks the culture he represented]], but he gained unexpected depth through the writing of the series until he ended up being one of their favourite characters from it.

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** Magog ended up becoming this for the writers; they initially made him a cliched representation of everything they hated about NinetiesAntiHero and [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks the culture he represented]], but he gained unexpected depth through the writing of the series until he ended up being one of their favourite favorite characters from it.



* FranchiseOriginalSin: ''Kingdom Come'' inadvertently started the trend of pairing Superman and Wonder Woman in [[AlternateUniverse Elseworld comics]] [[note]]''The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Superman: Distant Fires, Superman: Red Son, JLA: Act of God, Injustice''[[/note]] before finally becoming a canon OfficialCouple in the ''ComicBook/New52''.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: ''Kingdom Come'' inadvertently started the trend of pairing Superman and Wonder Woman in [[AlternateUniverse Elseworld comics]] [[note]]''The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Superman: Distant Fires, Superman: Red Son, JLA: Act of God, Injustice''[[/note]] before finally becoming a canon OfficialCouple in the ''ComicBook/New52''. However, while ''Kingdom Come'' devotes a great deal of time and attention to examining their relationship and crafting believable circumstances to bring them together, many modern comics just take it as a granted that the strongest man and woman will be attracted to one another, or simply write the romance poorly.
27th Apr '16 9:43:35 PM Lionheart0
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: ''Kingdom Come'' inadvertently started the trend of pairing Superman and Wonder Woman in [[AlternateUniverse Elseworld comics]] [[note]]''The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Superman: Distant Fires, Superman: Red Son, JLA: The Nail, Injustice''[[/note]] before finally becoming a canon OfficialCouple in the ''ComicBook/New52''.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: ''Kingdom Come'' inadvertently started the trend of pairing Superman and Wonder Woman in [[AlternateUniverse Elseworld comics]] [[note]]''The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Superman: Distant Fires, Superman: Red Son, JLA: The Nail, Act of God, Injustice''[[/note]] before finally becoming a canon OfficialCouple in the ''ComicBook/New52''.
23rd Apr '16 12:05:09 PM Lionheart0
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: ''Kingdom Come'' inadvertently started the trend of pairing Superman and Wonder Woman in [[AlternateUniverse Elseworld comics]] [[note]]''The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Superman: Distant Fires, Superman: Red Son, JLA: The Nail, Injustice''[[/note]] before finally becoming a canon OfficialCouple in the ''ComicBook/New52''.



* OriginalFranchiseSin: ''Kingdom Come'' inadvertently started the trend of pairing Superman and Wonder Woman in [[AlternateUniverse Elseworld comics]] [[note]]''The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Superman: Distant Fires, Superman: Red Son, JLA: The Nail, Injustice''[[/note]] before finally becoming a canon OfficialCouple in the ''ComicBook/New52''.
23rd Apr '16 12:04:36 PM Lionheart0
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* OriginalFranchiseSin: ''Kingdom Come'' inadvertently started the trend of pairing Superman and Wonder Woman in [[AlternateUniverse Elseworld comics]] [[note]]''The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Superman: Distant Fires, Superman: Red Son, JLA: The Nail, Injustice''[[/note]] before finally becoming a canon OfficialCouple in the ''ComicBook/New52''.
21st Mar '16 4:38:02 PM SilentStranger
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* BrokenAesop: The main plot about the divide between the old and new generation of heroes and the issue of killing violent offenders is ultimatly resolved by... killing the majority of the metahumans. Apparently murder IS the answer, as long as you dont do it with superpowers.
11th Feb '16 10:40:25 AM t209
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** Also Billy Batson's BrainwashedAndCrazy became much more heartbreaking after the same fate to Mary Marvel in ComicBook/CountdownToFinalCrisis and later Billy Batson ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica.

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** Also Billy Batson's BrainwashedAndCrazy became much more heartbreaking after the same fate that happened to Mary Marvel in ComicBook/CountdownToFinalCrisis and later Billy Batson in ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica.
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