History YMMV / KingKong

4th Apr '17 3:19:08 PM NWolfman
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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: As a few film scholars have pointed out, beauty did ''not'' kill the beast. Colonialism did. Removing Kong from his natural habitat robbed him of the survival instincts necessary in keeping him alive. As such, the story can be seen as a strong allegory to white settlers ruining native lands by robbing its inhabitants of the very skills which kept them alive as long as they did.

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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: As a few film scholars have pointed out, beauty did ''not'' kill the beast. Colonialism did. Removing Kong from his natural habitat robbed him of the survival instincts necessary in keeping him alive. As such, the story can be seen as a strong allegory to white settlers ruining native lands by lands, robbing its inhabitants of the very skills which kept them alive as long as they did.did and infecting them with their foreign illnesses.
25th Feb '17 9:09:53 PM PrincessGwen
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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: As a few film scholars have pointed out, beauty did ''not'' kill the beast. Colonialism did. Removing Kong from his natural habitat robbed him of the survival instincts necessary in keeping him alive. As such, the story can be seen as a strong allegory to white settlers ruining native lands by robbing it's inhabitants of the very skills which kept them alive as long as they did.

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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: As a few film scholars have pointed out, beauty did ''not'' kill the beast. Colonialism did. Removing Kong from his natural habitat robbed him of the survival instincts necessary in keeping him alive. As such, the story can be seen as a strong allegory to white settlers ruining native lands by robbing it's its inhabitants of the very skills which kept them alive as long as they did.



** The remake's reveal of the Skull Island's name is ridiculusly over the top.

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** The remake's reveal of the Skull Island's name is ridiculusly ridiculously over the top.
14th Feb '17 11:18:54 AM NWolfman
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* AlternativeAesopInterpretation: As a few film scholars have pointed out, beauty did ''not'' kill the beast. Colonialism did. Removing Kong from his natural habitat robbed him of the survival instincts necessary in keeping him alive. As such, the story can be seen as a strong allegory to white settlers ruining native lands by robbing it's inhabitants of the very skills which kept them alive as long as they did.

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* AlternativeAesopInterpretation: AlternateAesopInterpretation: As a few film scholars have pointed out, beauty did ''not'' kill the beast. Colonialism did. Removing Kong from his natural habitat robbed him of the survival instincts necessary in keeping him alive. As such, the story can be seen as a strong allegory to white settlers ruining native lands by robbing it's inhabitants of the very skills which kept them alive as long as they did.
14th Feb '17 11:18:41 AM NWolfman
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* AlternativeAesopInterpretation: As a few film scholars have pointed out, beauty did ''not'' kill the beast. Colonialism did. Removing Kong from his natural habitat robbed him of the survival instincts necessary in keeping him alive. As such, the story can be seen as a strong allegory to white settlers ruining native lands by robbing it's inhabitants of the very skills which kept them alive as long as they did.
5th Dec '16 10:34:04 AM philipnova798
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** On the subject of Kong '76, there the the very ''literal'' failure though the highly publicized full-scale mechanical Kong armature, designed by [[Film/{{Alien}} Carlo Rambaldi]]. Leading to makeup legend RickBaker designing and donning the ape suit used for 95% of the movie. The mechanical Kong was only in one scene -his New York unveiling- and boy, can you tell.

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** On the subject of Kong '76, there the was the very ''literal'' failure though the highly publicized full-scale mechanical Kong armature, designed by [[Film/{{Alien}} Carlo Rambaldi]].Rambaldi]] and said to have cost nearly $1.4 million to build. Leading to makeup legend RickBaker designing and donning the ape suit used for 95% of the movie. The mechanical Kong was only in one scene -his New York unveiling- and boy, can you tell.
28th Oct '16 8:37:49 PM CommanderAce
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** ''[[http://jabootu.net/?p=546 King Kong Lives]]'' has not been viewed kindly. And for good reason.

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** Of the different versions, the 1976 film gets the most flack for having several gratuitous changes and copious bits of 70's cheese peppering the run time.
** Even if the 1976 version is not remembered too fondly,
''[[http://jabootu.net/?p=546 King Kong Lives]]'' has not been viewed kindly. And for good reason.is universally considered to be forgettable.
28th Oct '16 8:34:20 PM CommanderAce
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** The 1976 version gets this, owing to Ann getting undressed in a more explicit manner and Kong's rather bloody death scene.

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** The 1976 version gets this, owing to Ann Dwan getting undressed in a more explicit manner and Kong's rather bloody death scene.
28th Oct '16 8:32:05 PM CommanderAce
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* The King Kong Suit and half-second of stop motion in ''King Kong vs. Godzilla'' are universally seen as poor. Doesn't stop people [[RuleOfCool from enjoying]] [[RuleOfFunny it, though.]]

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* ** The King Kong Suit and half-second of stop motion in ''King Kong vs. Godzilla'' are universally seen as poor. Doesn't stop people [[RuleOfCool from enjoying]] [[RuleOfFunny it, though.]]
28th Oct '16 8:31:45 PM CommanderAce
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The "Jungle Dance" music from the original. Also used as the background music to the "Eighth Wonder of the World" show in the 2005 remake.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
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The "Jungle Dance" music from the original. Also used as the background music to the "Eighth Wonder of the World" show in the 2005 remake. The tie-in game also has some epic music, particularly for the boss battles.



* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The ice skating scene in New York.
** Somehow doubles as SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The ice skating scene in New York.
** Somehow
York. On the other hand, this doubles as a SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}.Moment|s}} or sad to many viewers.



* DesignatedHero: Jack in the 2005 version. Most of the crew's deaths can be traced back to his obsession with saving Ann, and all the while, he constantly gets upstaged by both the titular ape and [[spoiler:the snooty actor he didn't like.]]
** His decision to draw Kong away from Times Square probably causes more death and destruction than if he'd just let him be.

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* DesignatedHero: Jack in the 2005 version. Most of the crew's deaths can be traced back to his obsession with saving Ann, and all the while, he constantly gets upstaged by both the titular ape and [[spoiler:the snooty actor he didn't like.]]
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]] His decision to draw Kong away from Times Square probably causes more death and destruction than if he'd just let him be.



* HarsherInHindsight: The entire battle at the World Trade Center in the 1976 film is much creepier in the aftermath of September 11th.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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The entire battle at the World Trade Center in the 1976 film is much creepier in the aftermath of September 11th. 11th.
** Kong's more sympathetic portrayal and tragic death in the 2005 film is this in light of the Harambe shooting incident.



* {{Narm}}: Parts of the original as well, including the most blasé declaration of love ever.

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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}}:
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Parts of the original as well, including the most blasé declaration of love ever.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: (1933) See the entry for Special Effect Failure.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: (1933) See The StopMotion used for Kong and the entry for Special Effect Failure.dinosaurs in the original version to modern viewers who do not begin to comprehend the effort or complexity of what was done, focusing on the layman assessment of "It looks like clay". For the time, they were the best special effects around, some shots still astound modern special effects artists with their seemlessness and complexity. But it's doubly impressive considering that the alternative would have been '''[[{{Slurpasaur}} lizards in makeup]]'''.



** The StopMotion used for Kong and the dinosaurs in the original version to [[FanDumb modern viewers who do not begin to comprehend]] [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny the effort or complexity of what was done]] focusing on ther layman assesment of "It looks like clay". For the time, they were the best special effects around, some shots still astound modern special effects artists with their seemlessness and complexity. But it's doubly impressive considering that the alternative would have been '''[[{{Slurpasaur}} lizards in makeup]]'''. The King Kong Suit and half-second of stop motion in ''King Kong vs. Godzilla'' however, are universally seen as poor. Doesn't stop people [[RuleOfCool from enjoying]] [[RuleOfFunny it, though.]]
** The snake from the 1976 version could also qualify, looking very stiff, robotic, and lifeless compared to the fairly realistic animatronic face and hands built into the Kong suit.

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** The StopMotion used for Kong and the dinosaurs in the original version to [[FanDumb modern viewers who do not begin to comprehend]] [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny the effort or complexity of what was done]] focusing on ther layman assesment of "It looks like clay". For the time, they were the best special effects around, some shots still astound modern special effects artists with their seemlessness and complexity. But it's doubly impressive considering that the alternative would have been '''[[{{Slurpasaur}} lizards in makeup]]'''. * The King Kong Suit and half-second of stop motion in ''King Kong vs. Godzilla'' however, are universally seen as poor. Doesn't stop people [[RuleOfCool from enjoying]] [[RuleOfFunny it, though.]]
** The snake from the 1976 version could also qualify, looking very stiff, robotic, and lifeless compared to the fairly realistic animatronic face and hands built into the Kong suit.



** While the 2005 version has some spectacular work done on Kong himself. Most of the scenes on Skull Island look rather hokey and rushed. The Brontosaurus chase in particular, due to how obviously green-screened the actors in those shots are. Some of the New York scenes also look like they came from a video game.

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** While the 2005 version has some spectacular work done on Kong himself. Most of himself, there are some moments where it becomes obvious the scenes on Skull Island look rather hokey and rushed. actors were green-screened. The Brontosaurus chase in particular, due to how obviously green-screened the actors in those shots are. Some and parts of the New York scenes also look like they came from a video game.climax in particular are guilty of this.



** Kong himself also qualifies.
* UncannyValley: Kong's eyes in the 1976 version are disturbingly human-like.

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** Kong himself also qualifies.
qualifies in all versions of the story.
* UncannyValley: Kong's eyes in the 1976 version are disturbingly human-like.human-like, owing to it being RickBaker in an ape suit.



* ValuesDissonance: Modern audiences might find the crew's eagerness to shoot the stegosaurus somewhat jarring; also, Kong's [[TheNativesAreRestless Ugga Bugga worshipers]] are a bit insensitive by modern standards.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: While the 2005 version is probably a bigger target, even the original 1933 version is subject to this. Not only are there a lot of death scenes, they're surprisingly brutal! The stereotypical natives and the scene where Kong undresses Ann do not help.

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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
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Modern audiences might find the crew's eagerness to shoot the stegosaurus somewhat jarring; also, jarring.
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Kong's [[TheNativesAreRestless Ugga Bugga worshipers]] in all films are a bit insensitive by modern standards.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: While
standards, which was made worse in the 2005 version is probably a bigger target, even the where they are completely dehumanized and feral savages.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids:
** The
original 1933 version is subject to this. Not only are there a lot of death scenes, they're surprisingly brutal! The stereotypical natives and the scene where Kong undresses Ann do not help.help.
** The 1976 version gets this, owing to Ann getting undressed in a more explicit manner and Kong's rather bloody death scene.
** The 2005 version, while not exactly created with kids in mind, gets this owing to its brutal violence and the rather sad demise of the more sympathetic Kong.
4th Oct '16 2:45:11 PM schoi30
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* SignatureScene: Kong, woman in hand, on the roof of the tallest building in New York City and punching planes out of the air. Before he... [[ItWasHisSled you know.]]

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* SignatureScene: SignatureScene:
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Kong, woman in hand, on the roof of the tallest building in New York City and punching planes out of the air. Before he... [[ItWasHisSled you know.]]]]
** The battle between Kong and the ''TyrannosaurusRex'' on the island.
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