History YMMV / KingArthur

14th May '17 10:22:57 AM Eagal
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* MemeticBadass: Before Galahad, before Lancelot, before Gawain, Arthur was this to the mythos that now bears his name. The Arthurian Welsh Triads in particular tend to either have Arthur (referred to as [[TheMagnificent the Red Ravager]]) as the third (and thus most powerful example) of each triad, or the fourth, generally establishing that whatever the other three guys were known for, Arthur was it UpToEleven.
** In fact, literally the earliest possible mention of Arthur accepted by most experts can be paraphrased as "This one guy is a Billy MacBadass to end all other badasses, ''but he was not Arthur."''


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* ValuesDissonance: While par for the course with any old legend, there is one particular one that changes tied to the portrayals of quests and combat prowess: in the old Welsh legends, adventures and quests are group activities (Arthor himself is almost never without his PowerTrio of himself, Cai, and Bedwyr) and there is [[CombatPragmatist nothing wrong with ganging up on badguys]], while the later Romance takes almost exclusively focus on single warrior adventures that are stuffed to the gills with jousting and even the villains tend to follow MookChivalry.
14th Apr '17 6:06:24 PM MagBas
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* MartyStu:
** Sir Lancelot falls under this. He was added later by a different author (Chrétien). He [[RelationshipSue romances the queen]] (a plot point that previously went to Sir Mordred), is [[OneManArmy better than everyone else in combat]], and is [[FriendToAllLivingThings best buddies with everyone in the Round Table]]. However, these are all PlayedForDrama at various points in the story, proving once again that TropesAreNotBad.
*** Tied into Lancelot, most adaptations will include a carbon copy of the character even if they choose a different name for the character. Some are good. Some are bad. All take time away from [[JustHereForGodzilla King Arthur.]]
*** Although it has been speculated that Lancelot may in fact have been the hero of a folk tale of his own that was then absorbed into the Arthurian cycle (not unlike what happened to Tristram).
** Sir Galahad, Sir Lancelot's son, is basically him turned UpToEleven. He was added by an even later author in the Vulgate Cycle. He has all his father's martial and social skills and more, plus IncorruptiblePurePureness and VirginPower, and he is TheChosenOne meant to find the HolyGrail. He finally ascends straight to heaven at the climax of the Grail Quest.
20th Mar '17 3:10:23 PM JRads47
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** The Japanese are ''in love'' with Arthur...well, [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight a version of Arthur]], anyways.
18th Feb '17 4:37:34 PM Thorion
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Bors (BoisterousBruiser played by RayWinstone) and Tristan (ArcherArchetype with pet hawk and CoolSword played by Creator/MadsMikkelsen) are fan favorites.

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(BoisterousBruiser played by RayWinstone) and Tristan (ArcherArchetype with pet hawk and CoolSword played by Creator/MadsMikkelsen) are fan favorites.favorites.
** Other fan favourites include Stephen Dillane as Merlin, Stellan Skarsgard as Cerdic (CompleteMonster he may be but he is an awesome villain) and Ken Stott as Marius Honoroius.
11th Feb '17 10:39:32 PM fusilcontrafusil
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** Sir Galahad, Sir Lancelot's son, is basically him turned UpToEleven as he has all his father's martial and social skills and more, plus IncorruptiblePurePureness and VirginPower. He also debuts in Arthur's court by drawing a sword from a stone which Arthur himself could not draw. He finally ascends straight to heaven at the climax of the Grail Quest.

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** Sir Galahad, Sir Lancelot's son, is basically him turned UpToEleven as he UpToEleven. He was added by an even later author in the Vulgate Cycle. He has all his father's martial and social skills and more, plus IncorruptiblePurePureness and VirginPower. He also debuts in Arthur's court by drawing a sword from a stone which Arthur himself could not draw.VirginPower, and he is TheChosenOne meant to find the HolyGrail. He finally ascends straight to heaven at the climax of the Grail Quest.
11th Feb '17 10:25:18 PM fusilcontrafusil
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* MartyStu:
** Sir Lancelot falls under this. He was added later by a different author (Chrétien). He [[RelationshipSue romances the queen]] (a plot point that previously went to Sir Mordred), is [[OneManArmy better than everyone else in combat]], and is [[FriendToAllLivingThings best buddies with everyone in the Round Table]]. However, these are all PlayedForDrama at various points in the story, proving once again that TropesAreNotBad.
*** Tied into Lancelot, most adaptations will include a carbon copy of the character even if they choose a different name for the character. Some are good. Some are bad. All take time away from [[JustHereForGodzilla King Arthur.]]
*** Although it has been speculated that Lancelot may in fact have been the hero of a folk tale of his own that was then absorbed into the Arthurian cycle (not unlike what happened to Tristram).
** Sir Galahad, Sir Lancelot's son, is basically him turned UpToEleven as he has all his father's martial and social skills and more, plus IncorruptiblePurePureness and VirginPower. He also debuts in Arthur's court by drawing a sword from a stone which Arthur himself could not draw. He finally ascends straight to heaven at the climax of the Grail Quest.
8th Feb '17 1:42:38 PM NNinja
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* MartyStu: Sir Galahad
** Sir Lancelot falls under this, too. He was added later by a different author (Chrétien). He [[RelationshipSue romances the queen]] (a plot point that previously went to Sir Mordred), is [[OneManArmy better than everyone else in combat]], and is [[FriendToAllLivingThings best buddies with everyone in the round table]]. However, these are all PlayedForDrama at various points in the story, proving once again that TropesAreNotBad.
*** Tied into Lancelot, most adaptations will include a carbon copy of the character even if they choose a different name for the character. Some are good. Some are bad. All take time away from [[JustHereForGodzilla King Arthur.]]
*** Although it has been speculated that Lancelot may in fact have been the hero of a folk tale of his own that was then absorbed into the Arthurian cycle (not unlike what happened to Tristram).
15th Nov '16 9:11:17 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Kay's furious, hot-tempered personality is explained away in ''Parzival'' by Wolfram von Eschenbach as a function of his job as Arthur's bouncer. Tons of people showed up to the castle every day claiming to be worthy knights when they really weren't, and it was Kay's job to sort out the bad ones from the good. This explains his really jerkish behavior when Percival arrives at Camelot. If that's the case, he would also be a MeanBrit long before Simon Cowell was born.

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** Kay's furious, hot-tempered personality is explained away in ''Parzival'' by Wolfram von Eschenbach as a function of his job as Arthur's bouncer. Tons of people showed up to the castle every day claiming to be worthy knights when they really weren't, and it was Kay's job to sort out the bad ones from the good. This explains his really jerkish behavior when Percival arrives at Camelot. If that's the case, he would also be a MeanBrit [[TheMeanBrit mean Brit]] long before Simon Cowell Creator/SimonCowell was born.
6th Nov '16 9:06:58 PM Xtifr
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* AudienceColoringAdaptation: This film, probably more than anything else, has helped popularize the idea that the "historical King Arthur" was a Roman dude named Lucius Artorius Castus (due to the major problems the Sarmatian theory has, it remains a fringe theory among scholars). After it was released, the concept started popping up in more media like the ''VideoGame/TotalWar'' series and ''Manga/VinlandSaga'', though not necessarily mentioning Sarmatians explicitly. Before the film was released, [[Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} Kinoko Nasu]] was aware of the "Roman Arthur" concept since the true name of [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight his version of Arthur]] is "Artoria" ([[GenderFlip the feminine form]] of "Artorius"), and [[AllThereInTheManual in supplementary materials]] he posits that the mythical Arthur was a CompositeCharacter of Roman and British leaders. But such references were rare.



* InkStainAdaptation: This film, probably more than anything else, has helped popularize the idea that the "historical King Arthur" was a Roman dude named Lucius Artorius Castus (due to the major problems the Sarmatian theory has, it remains a fringe theory among scholars). After it was released, the concept started popping up in more media like the ''VideoGame/TotalWar'' series and ''Manga/VinlandSaga'', though not necessarily mentioning Sarmatians explicitly. Before the film was released, [[Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} Kinoko Nasu]] was aware of the "Roman Arthur" concept since the true name of [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight his version of Arthur]] is "Artoria" ([[GenderFlip the feminine form]] of "Artorius"), and [[AllThereInTheManual in supplementary materials]] he posits that the mythical Arthur was a CompositeCharacter of Roman and British leaders. But such references were rare.
13th May '16 7:48:48 PM damus2300
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* HilariousInHindsight: [[Film/{{Avatar}} Tribal Blue Women fight against a better-equipped invading army.]]

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[[Film/{{Avatar}} Tribal Blue Women fight against a better-equipped invading army.]]


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** Merlin (played by Stephen Dillane) telling Arthur [[Series/GameOfThrones "We have all lost brothers"]].
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