History YMMV / KatekyoHitmanReborn

4th Apr '18 2:12:41 PM Gosicrystal
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* IKnewIt:
** What the entire fanbase was thinking when [[spoiler: the Simon Family was revealed to be Big Bad of the Inheritance Ceremony arc. People predicted that the Simon would have Earth-based flames, too.]]
** People who had read the manga predicted Daemon Spade's role as the BigBad in the anime's Inheritance Trials arc.
** [[spoiler:Hibari]] is the one who represented Fon in the Representative Battle.
** Almost everyone was betting on [[spoiler:Uncle Kawahira coming back to be revealed as Checker Face.]]
4th Apr '18 2:11:55 PM Gosicrystal
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** Tsuna goes through this in every single arc. He manages to defeat the BigBad from each arc, but in the next one is curbstomped by the first enemy he faces and ends up feeling completely insecure about it.
*** [[spoiler: Even worse with Tsuna, where the final chapter blatantly says that Tsuna hasn't changed since the beginning of the series and that he's still a loser without Reborn.]]

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** Tsuna goes through this in every single arc. He manages to defeat the BigBad from each arc, but in the next one is curbstomped by the first enemy he faces and ends up feeling completely insecure about it.
*** [[spoiler: Even worse with Tsuna, where
it. [[spoiler:Even worse, the final chapter blatantly says that Tsuna hasn't changed since the beginning of the series and that he's still a loser without Reborn.]]



* CargoShip[=/=]CrackPairing:

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* CargoShip[=/=]CrackPairing: CargoShip:



* FanPreferredCouple: The fandom is known for the impressive lack of ShipToShipCombat, with so many pairings, this is due to the fact that many shippers actually ship a lot of couples.
** Arguably, the most popular couples in the fandom are Dino/Hibari, Hibari/Tsuna, Gokudera/Yamamoto, Gokudera/Tsuna and Mukuro/Tsuna.

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* FanPreferredCouple: The fandom is known for the impressive lack of ShipToShipCombat, with so many pairings, this is due to the fact that many shippers actually ship a lot of couples.
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couples. Arguably, the most popular couples in the fandom are Dino/Hibari, Hibari/Tsuna, Gokudera/Yamamoto, Gokudera/Tsuna and Mukuro/Tsuna.



* FanficFuel: There are MANY fics in regards to what happened to Tsuna and his guardians after [[NoEnding chapter 409]]. Most have it involve the fact that he had accepted the role of the Decimo or the troubles he had to face as the official Decimo.
** There are also many class reunion fics in regards to said theme above with their old classmates finding the truth about Tsuna's heritage.
** Mukuro/Tsuna shippers take Mukuro's will to "Take Tsuna's body" in a very different way than the one meant.
** The same above is said to all ships including Hibari, but Hibari/Tsuna in particular, towards his catchphrase "I will bite you to death".

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* FanficFuel: FanficFuel:
**
There are MANY fics in regards to what happened to Tsuna and his guardians after [[NoEnding chapter 409]]. Most have it involve the fact that he had accepted the role of the Decimo or the troubles he had to face as the official Decimo.
** There are also many class reunion fics in regards to said theme above with their old classmates finding the truth about Tsuna's heritage.
** Mukuro/Tsuna shippers take Mukuro's will to "Take Tsuna's body" in a very different way than the one meant.
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meant. The same above is said to all ships including Hibari, but Hibari/Tsuna in particular, towards his catchphrase "I will bite you to death".



** And there's the headcanon of Hibari and Fon having familial relations to each other as an uncle or great-granduncle due to their physically similar resemblance.

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** And there's the The headcanon of Hibari and Fon having familial relations to each other as an uncle or great-granduncle due to their physically similar resemblance.



** Almost everyone was betting on [[spoiler: Uncle Kawahira coming back to be revealed as Checker Face.]]

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** Almost everyone was betting on [[spoiler: Uncle [[spoiler:Uncle Kawahira coming back to be revealed as Checker Face.]]



** [[spoiler: [[BigBad Daemon Spade]] managed to successfully pull a GrandTheftMe on {{M|anipulativeBastard}}ukuro. Lemme just repeat that: '''He pulled a GrandTheftMe on ''Mukuro''.''']]

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** [[spoiler: [[BigBad Daemon Spade]] [[spoiler:Daemon Spade managed to successfully pull a GrandTheftMe on {{M|anipulativeBastard}}ukuro. Lemme just repeat that: '''He pulled a GrandTheftMe on ''Mukuro''.''']]



* OneTrueThreesome: Due to multiple ships existing, it's very easy to find those.
** Tsuna's LauncherOfAThousandShips status makes him present in many, amongst Hibari/Tsuna/Mukuro and Gokudera/Tsuna/Yamamoto are the most popular.

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* OneTrueThreesome: Due to multiple ships existing, it's very easy to find those.
**
Tsuna's LauncherOfAThousandShips status makes him present in many, amongst Hibari/Tsuna/Mukuro and Gokudera/Tsuna/Yamamoto are the most popular.



* ShockingSwerve: The real identity of Checker Face is [[spoiler: Kawahira, the Ramen shop owner...[[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome who is that again]]? Not only that, but he and Yuni's ancestor are secretly from an ancient immortal species that have existed on Earth since before humans]]!

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* ShockingSwerve: The real identity of Checker Face is [[spoiler: Kawahira, [[spoiler:Kawahira, the Ramen shop owner...[[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome who is that again]]? Not only that, but he and Yuni's ancestor are secretly from an ancient immortal species that have existed on Earth since before humans]]!



** Kyoko and Haru also apply to this as well, they were never main protagonists of the series, but they had prominent roles in the Daily Life arc. After the series switches genres, they are given minor supporting roles where they hardly have any effect on the plot. The Future arc gave the girls a lot of backlash from the fandom, where they were now considered "sexist stereotypes" for cooking, cleaning, and taking care of Lambo and I-pin being they only thing they provide in the series.
** Tsuna himself can count, seeing as how every Arc any character progress he made was reset. Any lesson that was learned was either shoved to the side or forgotten, his enemies were all explicitly stronger then him, despite any/all upgrades he'd gotten, and anyone that was weaker then him in previous arcs were now equally strong.

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** Kyoko and Haru also apply to this as well, they Haru. They were never main protagonists of the series, but they had prominent roles in the Daily Life arc. After the series switches genres, they are given minor supporting roles where they hardly have any effect on the plot. The Future arc gave the girls a lot of backlash from the fandom, where they were now considered "sexist stereotypes" for cooking, cleaning, and taking care of Lambo and I-pin being they only thing they provide in the series.
** Tsuna himself can count, Tsuna, seeing as how every Arc any character progress he made was reset. Any lesson that was learned was either shoved to the side or forgotten, his enemies were all explicitly stronger then him, despite any/all upgrades he'd gotten, and anyone that was weaker then him in previous arcs were now equally strong.



* UncannyValley: [[spoiler: Bermuda's true form resembles a doll whose proportions are too unbalanced. His eyes are too large for his baby like face, has a nose that is practically nonexistent and has the arms of a bodybuilder attached to an adolescent body.]]

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* UncannyValley: [[spoiler: Bermuda's [[spoiler:Bermuda's true form resembles a doll whose proportions are too unbalanced. His eyes are too large for his baby like face, has a nose that is practically nonexistent and has the arms of a bodybuilder attached to an adolescent body.]]



** Gokudera, especially when you learn about his past.



** [[spoiler: 20YL!Lambo, particularly when you realize, thanks to Byakuran, exactly what kind of [[BadFuture future]] he has to return to.]]

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** [[spoiler: 20YL!Lambo, [[spoiler:20YL!Lambo, particularly when you realize, thanks to Byakuran, exactly what kind of [[BadFuture future]] he has to return to.]]



* WriterCopOut:[[spoiler: BIG TIME, with the series abrupt and rushed ending. Tsuna never resolves his relationship with Iemitsu, and continues to consider him the DisappearedDad that he's come to know him as. The Arcobaleno finally get their curse removed, but they are forced to stay babies and now age normally. Tsuna once again fails to confess his love to Kyoko, who continues to consider him nothing more than a good friend. Tsuna refuses to become a mafia boss in the final chapter, and we're given an ending the pretty much says "Tsuna is still a loser, and he still needs to heavily rely on Reborn for everything."]]

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%%** Gokudera, especially when you learn about his past.
* WriterCopOut:[[spoiler: BIG WriterCopOut:[[spoiler:BIG TIME, with the series abrupt and rushed ending. Tsuna never resolves his relationship with Iemitsu, and continues to consider him the DisappearedDad that he's come to know him as. The Arcobaleno finally get their curse removed, but they are forced to stay babies and now age normally. Tsuna once again fails to confess his love to Kyoko, who continues to consider him nothing more than a good friend. Tsuna refuses to become a mafia boss in the final chapter, and we're given an ending the pretty much says "Tsuna is still a loser, and he still needs to heavily rely on Reborn for everything."]]
24th Nov '17 7:25:59 PM phantomdemon
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**Tsuna himself can count, seeing as how every Arc any character progress he made was reset. Any lesson that was learned was either shoved to the side or forgotten, his enemies were all explicitly stronger then him, despite any/all upgrades he'd gotten, and anyone that was weaker then him in previous arcs were now equally strong.
15th Jul '17 9:08:41 PM Angeldeb82
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** Hibari: Half of the fandom loves him because of his MemeticBadass anti-hero status; the other half hates him, seeing him as a CreatorsPet JerkSue. It doesn't help that we see the other characters have to endure TrainingFromHell multiple times, something that Hibari himself never has to do, and every fight he participates in is [[AntiClimax anticlimactic]].

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** Hibari: Half of the fandom loves him because of his MemeticBadass anti-hero status; the other half hates him, seeing him as a CreatorsPet JerkSue. Jerk Sue. It doesn't help that we see the other characters have to endure TrainingFromHell multiple times, something that Hibari himself never has to do, and every fight he participates in is [[AntiClimax anticlimactic]].{{anti|Climax}}climactic.



** Chrome, by the fans she's either considered to be a likeable character due to her UndyingLoyalty with Mukuro and tragic backstory that makes fans feel sorry for her, or she's considered to be a useless steryotype that serves no purpose in the series and constantly needs Mukuro to fight her battles for her.

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** Chrome, by the fans she's either considered to be a likeable likable character due to her UndyingLoyalty with Mukuro and tragic backstory that makes fans feel sorry for her, or she's considered to be a useless steryotype stereotype that serves no purpose in the series and constantly needs Mukuro to fight her battles for her.



** Chrome, by virtue of being the [[SmurfettePrinciple only female]] amongst the guardians.

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** Chrome, by virtue of being the [[SmurfettePrinciple [[TheSmurfettePrinciple only female]] amongst the guardians.



** [[spoiler: [[BigBad Daemon Spade]] managed to successfully pull a GrandTheftMe on [[ManipulativeBastard Mukuro]]. Lemme just repeat that: '''He pulled a GrandTheftMe on ''Mukuro''.''']]

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** [[spoiler: [[BigBad Daemon Spade]] managed to successfully pull a GrandTheftMe on [[ManipulativeBastard Mukuro]].{{M|anipulativeBastard}}ukuro. Lemme just repeat that: '''He pulled a GrandTheftMe on ''Mukuro''.''']]



** Mukuro Rokudo's gonna have some ''goddamn'' fun with you. And [[GrandTheftMe wants your body.]]
** [[SlasherSmile Birds]]... just [[GigglingVillain Birds.]] [[SarcasmMode Gotta love]] the creepy old sadists...

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** Mukuro Rokudo's gonna have some ''goddamn'' fun with you. And [[GrandTheftMe wants your body.]]
body]].
** [[SlasherSmile Birds]]... just [[GigglingVillain Birds.]] Birds]]. [[SarcasmMode Gotta love]] the creepy old sadists...



* {{OT3}}: Due to multiple ships existing, it's very easy to find those.

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* {{OT3}}: OneTrueThreesome: Due to multiple ships existing, it's very easy to find those.



* PeripheryDemographic: Did the number of [[{{Bishonen}} bishies]] in the story really convince you that this series was ''just'' for guys?

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* PeripheryDemographic: Did the number of [[{{Bishonen}} bishies]] {{bish|onen}}ies in the story really convince you that this series was ''just'' for guys?



* ShockingSwerve: The real identity of Checker Face is [[spoiler: Kawahira, the Ramen shop owner...[[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome who is that again?]] Not only that, but he and Yuni's ancestor are secretly from an ancient immortal species that have existed on Earth since before humans!]]

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* ShockingSwerve: The real identity of Checker Face is [[spoiler: Kawahira, the Ramen shop owner...[[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome who is that again?]] again]]? Not only that, but he and Yuni's ancestor are secretly from an ancient immortal species that have existed on Earth since before humans!]] humans]]!



** 20YL!Lambo, the [[CharacterDevelopment mature]], [[{{Hunk}} handsome]], and incredibly badass future version of 5-year-old Lambo, only ever appears in one chapter. It's justified that he can't show up in the Future Arc due to Lambo not being in possession of his 10-Year Bazooka, but even afterwards it's only 10YL!Lambo that makes a reappearance.

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** 20YL!Lambo, the [[CharacterDevelopment mature]], [[{{Hunk}} handsome]], {{h|unk}}andsome, and incredibly badass future version of 5-year-old Lambo, only ever appears in one chapter. It's justified that he can't show up in the Future Arc due to Lambo not being in possession of his 10-Year Bazooka, but even afterwards it's only 10YL!Lambo that makes a reappearance.



** Chrome, due to the hell she goes through. Her parents abandoned her to die, half her organs are missing, she's homeless and more often than not starving, she's constantly belittled, and in the Inheritance Ceremony arc [[spoiler: she's [[HypnotizethePrincess hypnotized]] and tortured by D.Spade purely to push Mukuro's BerserkButton.]]

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** Chrome, due to the hell she goes through. Her parents abandoned her to die, half her organs are missing, she's homeless and more often than not starving, she's constantly belittled, and in the Inheritance Ceremony arc [[spoiler: she's [[HypnotizethePrincess hypnotized]] {{hypnotize|ThePrincess}}d and tortured by D.Spade purely to push Mukuro's BerserkButton.]] BerserkButton]].



** Yuni, and by extension Luche and Aria. Luche was BlessedWithSuck, received the less-than-beneficial end of the CursedWithAwesome stick shared by her other partners, and worse yet has to pass that on to all her future descendents. [[spoiler: Yuni has to sacrifice herself in the Future Arc to restore the Arcobaleno and in turn defeat Byakuran, but she's terrified of death and can't go through with it until Gamma joins her and they die together. The scene is regarded as one of the most [[TearJerker tear-jerking]] of the manga/anime.]]

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** Yuni, and by extension Luche and Aria. Luche was BlessedWithSuck, received the less-than-beneficial end of the CursedWithAwesome stick shared by her other partners, and worse yet has to pass that on to all her future descendents.descendants. [[spoiler: Yuni has to sacrifice herself in the Future Arc to restore the Arcobaleno and in turn defeat Byakuran, but she's terrified of death and can't go through with it until Gamma joins her and they die together. The scene is regarded as one of the most [[TearJerker tear-jerking]] of the manga/anime.]]
21st Jun '17 12:15:14 AM transparentanswer
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** Iemitsu, Tsuna's father, often comes under criticism for his negligence towards Tsuna and Nana [[spoiler:(especially so in the final arc, where he nearly kills Tsuna during a poorly-communicated StealthMentor moment)]]. Others feel that the fact he's often protecting his family while working for CEDEF justifies the neglect. His negligence towards Tsuna especially got many to see him as TheScrappy seen below.

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** Iemitsu, Tsuna's father, often comes under criticism for his negligence towards Tsuna and Nana [[spoiler:(especially so in the final arc, where he nearly kills Tsuna during a poorly-communicated StealthMentor moment)]]. Others feel that the fact he's often protecting his family while working for CEDEF justifies the neglect. His negligence towards Tsuna especially got That said, many to fans see him as TheScrappy seen below.TheScrappy.
16th Apr '17 8:11:15 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Fem! Tsuna fics. No, really.

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** Fem! Tsuna Fem!Tsuna fics. No, really.
28th Mar '17 7:04:40 AM transparentanswer
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** Fics where Tsuna kills for the first time as a mafia boss and becomes a BrokenPedestal to his guardians because of it, causing the guardians to think that the Tsuna they know is long gone, eventually abandoning Tsuna in the process isn't as common as twin fics, but there. Though this contradicts canon because Tsuna's first technical kill was Byakuran during the future arc and in the underground world like the Mafia, [[RealityEnsues you had to kill someone in one way or another]].

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** Fics where Tsuna kills for the first time as a mafia boss and becomes a BrokenPedestal to his guardians because of it, causing the guardians to think that the Tsuna they know is long gone, eventually abandoning Tsuna in the process isn't as common as twin fics, but there. Though this contradicts canon because Tsuna's first technical kill was Byakuran during the future arc and in the underground world like the Mafia, [[RealityEnsues you had to kill someone killing is inevitable in one way or another]].
28th Mar '17 7:03:37 AM transparentanswer
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** Fics where Tsuna becomes a BrokenPedestal to his guardians because he killed someone and thought the Tsuna they know is long gone, eventually abandoning Tsuna in the process isn't as common as twin fics, but there. Though this contradicts canon because Tsuna's first technical kill was Byakuran and in the underground world like the Mafia, [[RealityEnsues you had to kill someone in one way or another]].

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** Fics where Tsuna kills for the first time as a mafia boss and becomes a BrokenPedestal to his guardians because he killed someone and thought of it, causing the guardians to think that the Tsuna they know is long gone, eventually abandoning Tsuna in the process isn't as common as twin fics, but there. Though this contradicts canon because Tsuna's first technical kill was Byakuran during the future arc and in the underground world like the Mafia, [[RealityEnsues you had to kill someone in one way or another]].
27th Mar '17 11:54:49 PM transparentanswer
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** Fics where Tsuna becomes a BrokenPedestal to his guardians because he killed someone and thought the Tsuna they know is long gone, eventually abandoning Tsuna in the process isn't as common as twin fics, but there. Though this contradicts canon because Tsuna's first technical kill was Byakuran and in the underground world like the Mafia, [[RealityEnsues you had to kill someone in one way or another]].
26th Mar '17 1:59:22 AM transparentanswer
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** With the implication of the tenth generation being the reincarnation of the first generation of Vongola. A good number of fans believed that Chrome is the reincarnation of [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth Elena]] as she's the only odd one out among the tenth generation and was slightly supported in canon with her close relationship with Mukuro, who was implied to be Daemon's reincarnation.
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