History YMMV / KatawaShoujo

9th Oct '16 4:52:53 PM Mullon
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: It's a [[DisabledLoveInterest cripple]] [[HGame porn]] VisualNovel ''from [[ImageBoards 4chan]]''! Despite this (or [[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity because of it]]), it has become a GatewaySeries for the VisualNovel genre.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: It's a [[DisabledLoveInterest cripple]] [[HGame porn]] VisualNovel ''from [[ImageBoards 4chan]]''! Website/FourChan''! Despite this (or [[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity because of it]]), it has become a GatewaySeries for the VisualNovel genre.
18th Sep '16 11:08:56 AM Oecchi
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** Hanako is probably the best candidate for this, but [[spoiler:her route is a deconstruction of the concept]].

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** Hanako is probably the best candidate for this, but [[spoiler:her route is a deconstruction of the concept]].concept. Hanako becomes well aware that Hisao feels sorry for her and sees her as TheWoobie, and she greatly resents it. In her Bad End, she calls Hisao out on this, yelling that she hates him for this behaviour. With the way she's facing the screen, however, it doesn't seem that she's yelling at Hisao so much as [[TakeThatAudience she's yelling at]] [[YouBastard the player]]. In her H-scene, the reason she has sex with Hisao in the first place is so that he'll stop seeing her as someone to be pitied and protected]].
31st Aug '16 6:38:35 AM anonzeta
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Many of the [=CGs=] are downright ''beautiful'', and they're all the work of one artist, [[http://mikeinel.deviantart.com/ Mike Inel.]] Additionally, he made a different fully animated sequence for each of the five routes. '''''[[DoingItForTheArt For]] {{Freeware}}!'''''

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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Many [[DoingItForTheArt Despite the game being freeware]], many of the game [=CGs=] are downright ''beautiful'', and they're ''beautiful.'' Add to that the gorgeous animated sequences introducing each girl's route, all the work of which single-handedly made by one artist, [[http://mikeinel.deviantart.com/ Mike Inel.]] Additionally, he made a different fully animated sequence for each of the five routes. '''''[[DoingItForTheArt For]] {{Freeware}}!''''']]
31st Jul '16 2:03:14 AM PicardsDouble
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* FanPreferredCouple: Miki and Suzu. Suriko (writer of Lilly's route and co-writer of Hanako's) went as far as to write an unofficial pseudo route for Miki wherein she gets the choice of Hisao or Suzu, partly in response to them being the most popular of the characters of no importance to the plot and fan art pairing the two up for years previously.



*** Miki and Suzu: Suriko (writer of Lilly's route and co-writer of Hanako's) went as far as to write an unofficial pseudo route for Miki wherein she gets the choice of Hisao or Suzu, partly in response to them being the most popular of the characters of no importance to the plot and fan art pairing the two up for years previously.
31st Jul '16 1:56:25 AM PicardsDouble
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*** Miki and Suzu: Suriko (writer of Lilly's route and co-writer of Hanako's) went as far as to write an unofficial pseudo route for Miki wherein she gets the choice of Hisao or Suzu, partly in response to them being the most popular of the characters of no importance to the plot and fan art pairing the two up for years previously.
31st May '16 7:18:58 PM Angeldeb82
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** Hanako as a StringyHairedGhostGirl. Occasionally [[http://shimmie.katawa-shoujo.com/post/view/1289 parodied]] in [[http://shimmie.katawa-shoujo.com/post/view/1267 fanart.]]

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** Hanako as a StringyHairedGhostGirl. Occasionally [[http://shimmie.katawa-shoujo.com/post/view/1289 parodied]] in [[http://shimmie.katawa-shoujo.com/post/view/1267 fanart.]]fanart]].



** [[http://ks.renai.us/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8971 A forum thread]] (specifically everything from the member [=ProfAllister =]) has pointed out Jigoro might actually be a {{Jerk With A Heart Of Gold}} and just dislike Hisao because that he, in his viewpoint, is his daughter's Loser Boyfriend.

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** [[http://ks.renai.us/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8971 A forum thread]] (specifically everything from the member [=ProfAllister =]) [=ProfAllister=]) has pointed out Jigoro might actually be a {{Jerk With A Heart Of Gold}} and just dislike Hisao because that he, in his viewpoint, is his daughter's Loser Boyfriend.



** Lilly's route is a sweet and adorable romance between two persons who are WiseBeyondTheirYears and manage to support and understand each other faster than many teens in love, or a super boring piece of unrealistic and [[TastesLikeDiabetes diabetes-inducing]] {{Glurge}} with a self-righteous PuritySue that belongs more in a Harlequin RomanceNovel than a somewhat realistic VisualNovel.

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** Lilly's route is a sweet and adorable romance between two persons who are WiseBeyondTheirYears and manage to support and understand each other faster than many teens in love, or a super boring piece of unrealistic and [[TastesLikeDiabetes diabetes-inducing]] {{Glurge}} with a self-righteous PuritySue Purity Sue that belongs more in a Harlequin RomanceNovel than a somewhat realistic VisualNovel.



* CrazyAwesome: Kenji, a [[CloudCuckooLander paranoid]], [[HeMAnWomanHater misogynistic]], overly hyper, [[TestosteronePoisoning manly]], loud [[{{Jerkass}} jerk?]] Yeah, this is pretty much the reason he became so popular.

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* CrazyAwesome: Kenji, a [[CloudCuckooLander [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} paranoid]], [[HeMAnWomanHater misogynistic]], overly hyper, [[TestosteronePoisoning manly]], loud [[{{Jerkass}} jerk?]] {{jerk|ass}}? Yeah, this is pretty much the reason he became so popular.



** Poor Shizune seems to have suffered the misfortune of being pratically set up of this. First, her route is very much an acquired taste, relying more on intellectual nuance, {{Foreshadowing}} and subtext than the "[[{{catharsis Factor}} feels]]" that are common in other routes. Meaning that [[RewatchBonus you need to play it a few times in order to truly get it]]. (The fact that it is the most linear route, [[spoiler:with only one choice]], doesn't help matters.) Second, she is a SpiritedCompetitor to a degree that [[BaseBreaker one either finds charming and endearing or obnoxious and annoying]]; she can also can be rather blunt (justified in part because she is deaf-mute). Thirdly she is TheRival to Lilly who is by far one of the most adored characters in the game and whose route is seen as much smoother and sweeter [[spoiler:except for the end, but that one also ends up well]]. Lastly, her best friend Misha is an EnsembleDarkHorse who doesn't have a route of her own [[spoiler:and is, in fact, in unrequited love with Shizune herself - which is what triggers THE single choice in the Shizune route. Not to mention that readers prefer the other stories because they give them "the feels," and Misha, due to the sad nature of her emotional turmoil, is much more of a woobie than Shizune, causing the readers attention to be directed towards Misha and Shizune to be left in the dust]]. You'd think people would not be able to pour so much hate at an eighteen year old deaf girl. Interestingly enough, in Lilly's route, Shizune [[spoiler:reconciles with Lilly, and initiates the process]]. And instead of competing with the other girls over Hisao, Shizune, along with Misha, is a ShipperOnDeck in others's routes.

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** Poor Shizune seems to have suffered the misfortune of being pratically set up of this. First, her route is very much an acquired taste, relying more on intellectual nuance, {{Foreshadowing}} and subtext than the "[[{{catharsis Factor}} "[[CatharsisFactor feels]]" that are common in other routes. Meaning that [[RewatchBonus you need to play it a few times in order to truly get it]]. (The fact that it is the most linear route, [[spoiler:with only one choice]], doesn't help matters.) Second, she is a SpiritedCompetitor to a degree that [[BaseBreaker one either finds charming and endearing or obnoxious and annoying]]; she can also can be rather blunt (justified in part because she is deaf-mute). Thirdly she is TheRival to Lilly who is by far one of the most adored characters in the game and whose route is seen as much smoother and sweeter [[spoiler:except for the end, but that one also ends up well]]. Lastly, her best friend Misha is an EnsembleDarkHorse who doesn't have a route of her own [[spoiler:and is, in fact, in unrequited love with Shizune herself - which is what triggers THE single choice in the Shizune route. Not to mention that readers prefer the other stories because they give them "the feels," and Misha, due to the sad nature of her emotional turmoil, is much more of a woobie than Shizune, causing the readers attention to be directed towards Misha and Shizune to be left in the dust]]. You'd think people would not be able to pour so much hate at an eighteen year old deaf girl. Interestingly enough, in Lilly's route, Shizune [[spoiler:reconciles with Lilly, and initiates the process]]. And instead of competing with the other girls over Hisao, Shizune, along with Misha, is a ShipperOnDeck in others's routes.



** The heroines themselves are more or less the [[EnsembleDarkhorse Ensemble Darkhorses]] of the doujinshi that spawned the idea, considering they were features in an extra in the book.

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** The heroines themselves are more or less the [[EnsembleDarkhorse Ensemble Darkhorses]] {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s of the doujinshi that spawned the idea, considering they were features in an extra in the book.



** Hanako fans are often accused of wanting a "dream girl" who is totally dependent on them, (which is CompletelyMissingThePoint of her route, [[InsaneTrollLogic but when has that every stopped anyone]].)
** If you are a Lilly fan, than you are a bandwagonner that lets the Internet do his thinking for him, going after the MarySue because she appeals to the LowestCommonDenominator (although this is also missing the point that she is a deconstruction of the MarySue). The Lilly haters are an interesting case in themselves. Polls have shown that Lilly is actually the ''least'' disliked of all characters in the game... But you would definitely not know that if you enter certain discussion threads, where the VocalMinority will shove you out of the thread at even the slightest mention of liking her.

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** Hanako fans are often accused of wanting a "dream girl" who is totally dependent on them, (which is CompletelyMissingThePoint ComicallyMissingThePoint of her route, [[InsaneTrollLogic but when has that every stopped anyone]].)
** If you are a Lilly fan, than you are a bandwagonner that lets the Internet do his thinking for him, going after the MarySue Mary Sue because she appeals to the LowestCommonDenominator (although this is also missing the point that she is a deconstruction of the MarySue).Mary Sue). The Lilly haters are an interesting case in themselves. Polls have shown that Lilly is actually the ''least'' disliked of all characters in the game... But you would definitely not know that if you enter certain discussion threads, where the VocalMinority will shove you out of the thread at even the slightest mention of liking her.



** The SickeningCrunch in Act 1's BadEnding when [[spoiler:a drunken Hisao falls off the school roof to his death.]]

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** The SickeningCrunch in Act 1's BadEnding DownerEnding when [[spoiler:a drunken Hisao falls off the school roof to his death.]]death]].



** In Rin's route, Hisao remarks on [[spoiler:how embarrasing it would be to have a heart attack in the middle of sex.]] In Lilly's route [[spoiler:Hisao ends up having a bit of a fit when taking the lead, and ends up on the floor clutching his heart in pain.]]
** The "Who's there? ... No answer, must be that deaf bitch." meme regarding Lilly's rivalry with Shizune. [[spoiler:Toward the end of her route, there's a scene in which Lilly thanks Misha for retrieving a folder for her, only to realize Shizune did it instead when she gets no response, and the two reconcile]].
** Late in Lilly's route, Hisao stops by the Hakamichi residence [[spoiler:in hope of catching Lilly before she leaves for the airport]], and gets slightly bothered at the gruff, annoyed voice on the other end of the intercom. This serves as a bit of foreshadowing for when we actually get to meet the guy who the voice belongs to in Shizune's route, namely [[JerkAss Jigoro Hakamichi]].
* HoYay: Kenji. See AlternateCharacterInterpretation above. Particularly during the BadEnding with Kenji, where - as he gets closer and closer to Hisao - the love-theme To Become One plays.

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** In Rin's route, Hisao remarks on [[spoiler:how embarrasing embarrassing it would be to have a heart attack in the middle of sex.]] sex]]. In Lilly's route [[spoiler:Hisao ends up having a bit of a fit when taking the lead, and ends up on the floor clutching his heart in pain.]]
pain]].
** The "Who's there? ... No answer, must be that deaf bitch." meme regarding Lilly's rivalry with Shizune. [[spoiler:Toward the end of her route, there's a scene in which Lilly thanks Misha for retrieving a folder for her, only to realize Shizune did it instead when she gets no response, and the two reconcile]].
reconcile.]]
** Late in Lilly's route, Hisao stops by the Hakamichi residence [[spoiler:in hope of catching Lilly before she leaves for the airport]], and gets slightly bothered at the gruff, annoyed voice on the other end of the intercom. This serves as a bit of foreshadowing for when we actually get to meet the guy who the voice belongs to in Shizune's route, namely [[JerkAss [[{{Jerkass}} Jigoro Hakamichi]].
* HoYay: Kenji. See AlternateCharacterInterpretation AlternativeCharacterInterpretation above. Particularly during the BadEnding DownerEnding with Kenji, where - as he gets closer and closer to Hisao - the love-theme To Become One plays. plays.
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*** Lilly and Hanako: Their routes only split in the last choice of Act 1 and even then, in Lilly's ending you spend the festival, and the majority of later acts in both routes, with [[OneTrueThreesome both of them]]. In Hanako's route, she says she "love(s)" Lilly in the scenes leading to her Good Ending. Lilly gives Hanako a hug in her early birthday party in both girls' routes, and in her own route, [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments tells Hanako that she did not befriend her out of pity, but because of who she is]], culminating in what appears to be a kiss on the forehead.
*** [[GenkiGirl Emi]] and [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Rin]]: Emi, without any embarrassment, helps Rin get dressed, and helps her in the bathroom. Can't get much closer than that. In Rin's route, Emi also mentions that they used to sometimes sleep in the same bed. Also, [[spoiler:Rin is amazingly unfazed by walking in on the aftermath of a sex scene with Emi.]] Then again, this ''is'' Rin.
*** Misha and Shizune: Given that Misha is also Shizune's sign language interpreter, they are pretty much inseparable. Also, later in Shizune's route, [[spoiler:you find that there is no subtext in this case, albeit in a case of unrequited love. See Schoolgirl Lesbians]].
*** Naomi and Natsume: It's right there in their concept picture.



** Which is the best path/who is the best girl? Was it worth the wait? Is it even worth playing? Is it a respecful portrayal of disabled people, or badly-disguised "cripple porn"?

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** Which is the best path/who is the best girl? Was it worth the wait? Is it even worth playing? Is it a respecful respectful portrayal of disabled people, or badly-disguised "cripple porn"?



* LesYay: Of course, this is a game where the heroines come in pairs, so there's LesYay in pretty much every route you take.
** Lilly and Hanako: Their routes only split in the last choice of Act 1 and even then, in Lilly's ending you spend the festival, and the majority of later acts in both routes, with [[{{OT3}} both of them]]. In Hanako's route, she says she "love(s)" Lilly in the scenes leading to her Good Ending. Lilly gives Hanako a hug in her early birthday party in both girls' routes, and in her own route, [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming tells Hanako that she did not befriend her out of pity, but because of who she is]], culminating in what appears to be a kiss on the forehead.
** [[GenkiGirl Emi]] and [[CloudCuckooLander Rin]]: Emi, without any embarrassment, helps Rin get dressed, and helps her in the bathroom. Can't get much closer than that. In Rin's route, Emi also mentions that they used to sometimes sleep in the same bed. Also, [[spoiler:Rin is amazingly unfazed by walking in on the aftermath of a sex scene with Emi.]] Then again, this ''is'' Rin.
** Misha and Shizune: Given that Misha is also Shizune's sign language interpreter, they are pretty much inseparable. Also, later in Shizune's route, [[spoiler:you find that there is no subtext in this case, albeit in a case of unrequited love. See Schoolgirl Lesbians]].
** Naomi and Natsume: It's right there in their concept picture.



* MarySue: There are certain people on the Internet who feel that one or more of the girls in this game fit in this category. The majority generally disagree with them, and instead argue that all of the girls are reasonably flawed human beings. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that is all we will say about that.]]



** Jigoro's {{Jerk Ass}}ery gets so cranked UpToEleven that you simply ''cannot'' take him seriously. A little more subtlety, please.

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** Jigoro's {{Jerk Ass}}ery {{Jerkass}}ery gets so cranked UpToEleven that you simply ''cannot'' take him seriously. A little more subtlety, please.



** [[spoiler:Shizune's bad ending basically spits in the face of everyone who still wanted to pursue Misha after getting on Shizune's route. "Sure, go ahead, cheat on your girlfriend with her best friend. [[SarcasmMode That won't cause any problems at all]].]]

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** [[spoiler:Shizune's bad ending basically spits in the face of everyone who still wanted to pursue Misha after getting on Shizune's route. "Sure, go ahead, cheat on your girlfriend with her best friend. [[SarcasmMode That won't cause any problems at all]].]]all.]]]]
2nd May '16 4:21:07 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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** Both of Hanako's bad endings could be interpreted as a silent (but extremely poignant) blaming finger raised towards players with WhiteKnight tendencies. That is to say, the vast majority of players who chose the Hanako route... Basically, they say [[spoiler:"so you want to make yourself feel manlier and stronger by being the boyfriend of a weak, fragile girl you could care for and tend to, who'll depend on you for everything and be all sweet and meek and shy and bashful? Here, have your dream relationship."]]

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** Both of Hanako's bad endings could be interpreted as a silent (but extremely poignant) blaming finger raised towards players with WhiteKnight white knight tendencies. That is to say, the vast majority of players who chose the Hanako route... Basically, they say [[spoiler:"so you want to make yourself feel manlier and stronger by being the boyfriend of a weak, fragile girl you could care for and tend to, who'll depend on you for everything and be all sweet and meek and shy and bashful? Here, have your dream relationship."]]
18th Mar '16 8:19:32 AM Oecchi
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* EpilepticTrees: Misha's disability (or lack thereof) and the reason for her not having her own route is the source of much WildMassGuessing among fans. [[http://ks.renai.us/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1386 Observe.]]

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* EpilepticTrees: Misha's lack of disability (or lack thereof) and the reason for her not having her own route is the source of much WildMassGuessing among fans.fans (though in the game it's stated that she doesn't have any physical disabilities). [[http://ks.renai.us/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1386 Observe.]]
9th Feb '16 8:26:13 PM henry42
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** The sickening crunch in Act 1's BadEnding when [[spoiler:a drunken Hisao falls off the school roof to his death.]]

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** The sickening crunch SickeningCrunch in Act 1's BadEnding when [[spoiler:a drunken Hisao falls off the school roof to his death.]]
28th Oct '15 5:46:40 PM Reymma
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** Nomiya. Several players thought he was going to molest Rin sooner or later. [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Memetic_Molester_-_Shinichi_Nomiya_Katawa_Shoujo_7573.jpg This screenshot]] shows him [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything with his tounge sticking out of his mouth in what looks like a lecherous grin]], asking, "I wonder if [[{{Lust}} this]] is what every [[DirtyOldMan old geezer]] of an [[TeacherStudentRomance art teacher]] who [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty got his hands on]] a [[YouWouldMakeAGreatModel young and fiery prodigy]] felt like."

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** Nomiya. Several players thought he was going to molest Rin sooner or later. [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Memetic_Molester_-_Shinichi_Nomiya_Katawa_Shoujo_7573.jpg This screenshot]] shows him [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything with his tounge tongue sticking out of his mouth in what looks like a lecherous grin]], asking, "I wonder if [[{{Lust}} this]] is what every [[DirtyOldMan old geezer]] of an [[TeacherStudentRomance art teacher]] who [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty got his hands on]] a [[YouWouldMakeAGreatModel young and fiery prodigy]] felt like."



** The final CG in [[spoiler:Hanako's Bad Ending]], which isn't scary so much from the details as it is from the fact that [[ShockingSwerve it COMES OUT OF NOWHERE.]]

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** The final CG in [[spoiler:Hanako's Bad Ending]], which isn't scary so much from the details as it is from the fact that [[ShockingSwerve it COMES OUT OF NOWHERE.]]WITH NO WARNING.



** Also unsurprisingly, there's a small but devoted fanbase from of blind and visually impaired players; as one of the few works to portray blindness with realism and respect. The fact that it's one of only a handful of visual novels said fans can play and that the cgi isn't strictly important to the plot certainly justifies it.

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** Also unsurprisingly, there's a small but devoted fanbase from of blind and visually impaired players; as one of the few works to portray blindness with realism and respect. The fact that it's one of only a handful of visual novels said fans can play and that the cgi CGI isn't strictly important to the plot certainly justifies it.
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