History YMMV / Kage

25th May '16 5:55:14 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* {{Foil}}: Jade and Elyon to each other in more than one way.
** Their elements are [[CastingAShadow shadow]] and [[LightEmUp light]], respectively. The Light of Meridian's power rivals the power of the Heart of Kandrakar. According to ancient legends, this can also be the case with shadow magic.
** They also contrast each other in the way they handle their powers. At the moment, Jade has [[WeakButSkilled far less raw magical power, but uses creatively those she currently has]]. Elyon has [[UnskilledButStrong a lot of raw magical power, but only little control over them]]. However, Elyon is on the way of [[SubvertedTrope subverting]] her status with the lessons she's having from the Oracle. If N'ghala's vision is of any indication, Jade's status will also be subverted by some sort of a power source.
** Elyon is Meridian's ruler [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking by birthright]]. According to Yua, Jade will become a queen [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority through thrive and trial]].
** Elyon was prophecied to end her brother's tyrannical rule and [[RightfulKingReturns claim her rightful throne]]. Jade is apparently prophecied to [[TheAntichrist end Kandrakar's influence]] and [[DarkMessiah spread darkness across the Known Worlds]].
** Elyon is worshipped by most of Meridian's population and Jade is [[HeroWithBadPublicity feared/hated by most of them]].
** Elyon is a NaiveEverygirl and Jade is a [[GenreSavvy cunning]] GuileHeroine.
** They could also be a TomboyAndGirlyGirl pair. Unlike girls of her age, Jade has a thirst for adventures and eagerness to prove herself. She also has never been much into admiring boys, finding it to be too stupid and girly. Elyon laments the loss of princess excitement of being a queen (a masked ball, Prince Charming, a castle on a cloud...).
* GrayingMorality: The Knights of Vengeance, [[FullCircleRevolution the (former) rebellion]] and Kandrakar (with it having [[WellIntentionedExtremist Althair]] and the ruthlessness of N'ghala's reign) seem to be getting this treatment.
* HannibalHasAPoint: Phobos may not be entirely wrong about the argument of his HannibalLecture: the rebels won ultimately with the help of the Guardians and Elyon.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: Kur's rabid mistrust and hate of the Guards is understandable, when one considers that they were enemies for years, and they only switched sides during the FinalBattle with Phobos.
* VillainHasAPoint: Nerissa thinks that Elyon is too naïve to keep Meridian from being ruined in half the time of her brother's rule. This argument has a merit of truth, given Caleb's BlackAndWhiteMorality viewpoint that borders on BlackAndWhiteInsanity, and unfortunately, most of the rebels seem to share his views. There's also the issue with [[KnightTemplar Kur]] and his own [[FantasticRacism views]].

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Kur's rabid mistrust and hate of the Guards is understandable, when one considers that they were enemies for years, and they only switched sides during the FinalBattle with Phobos.
* VillainHasAPoint: Nerissa thinks that Elyon is too naïve to keep Meridian from being ruined in half the time of her brother's rule. This argument has a merit of truth, given Caleb's BlackAndWhiteMorality viewpoint that borders on BlackAndWhiteInsanity, and unfortunately, most of the rebels seem to share his views. There's also the issue with [[KnightTemplar Kur]] and his own [[FantasticRacism views]].
Phobos.
12th Oct '15 11:24:45 AM OlmoJV
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** Their elements are [[CastingAShadow shadow]] and [[LightEmUp light]], respectively. The Light of Meridian's power rivals the power of the Heart of Kandrakar. And according to ancient legends, this can also be the case with shadow magic.
** They also contrast each other in the way they handle their powers. At the moment, Jade has [[WeakButSkilled far less raw magical power, but uses creatively those she currently has]]. Elyon has [[UnskilledButStrong a lot of raw magical power, but only little control over them]]. However, Elyon is on the way of [[SubvertedTrope subverting]] her status with the lessons she's having from the Oracle. And if N'ghala's vision is of any indication, Jade's status will also be subverted by some sort of a power source.

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** Their elements are [[CastingAShadow shadow]] and [[LightEmUp light]], respectively. The Light of Meridian's power rivals the power of the Heart of Kandrakar. And according According to ancient legends, this can also be the case with shadow magic.
** They also contrast each other in the way they handle their powers. At the moment, Jade has [[WeakButSkilled far less raw magical power, but uses creatively those she currently has]]. Elyon has [[UnskilledButStrong a lot of raw magical power, but only little control over them]]. However, Elyon is on the way of [[SubvertedTrope subverting]] her status with the lessons she's having from the Oracle. And if If N'ghala's vision is of any indication, Jade's status will also be subverted by some sort of a power source.



* VillainHasAPoint: Nerissa thinks that Elyon is too naïve to keep Meridian from being ruined in half the time of her brother's rule. This argument has a merit of truth, given Caleb's BlackAndWhiteMorality viewpoint that borders on BlackAndWhiteInsanity. And unfortunately, most of the rebels seem to share his views. There's also the issue with [[KnightTemplar Kur]] and his own [[FantasticRacism views]].

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* VillainHasAPoint: Nerissa thinks that Elyon is too naïve to keep Meridian from being ruined in half the time of her brother's rule. This argument has a merit of truth, given Caleb's BlackAndWhiteMorality viewpoint that borders on BlackAndWhiteInsanity. And BlackAndWhiteInsanity, and unfortunately, most of the rebels seem to share his views. There's also the issue with [[KnightTemplar Kur]] and his own [[FantasticRacism views]].
28th Apr '15 4:58:40 AM OlmoJV
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* GrayingMorality: The Knights of Vengeance, [[FullCircleRevolution the (former) rebellion]] and Kandrakar (with it having [[WellIntentionedExtremist Althair]] and the ruthlessness of N'ghala's reign) are getting this treatment.

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* GrayingMorality: The Knights of Vengeance, [[FullCircleRevolution the (former) rebellion]] and Kandrakar (with it having [[WellIntentionedExtremist Althair]] and the ruthlessness of N'ghala's reign) are seem to be getting this treatment.
28th Mar '15 4:55:33 PM OlmoJV
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* GrayingMorality

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* GrayingMoralityGrayingMorality: The Knights of Vengeance, [[FullCircleRevolution the (former) rebellion]] and Kandrakar (with it having [[WellIntentionedExtremist Althair]] and the ruthlessness of N'ghala's reign) are getting this treatment.
28th Mar '15 4:50:15 PM OlmoJV
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* GrayingMorality
28th Mar '15 1:06:45 PM OlmoJV
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* MoralEventHorizon: If Kur having shapeshifters burned at the stake ''isn't'' a clear crossing of it, doing the same to Miranda's (human) parents and ''[[ForcedToWatch forcing her to watch]]'' does the trick.

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* MoralEventHorizon: If Kur having shapeshifters burned at the stake ''isn't'' a clear crossing of it, doing the same to (by then 5 years old) Miranda's (human) parents and ''[[ForcedToWatch forcing her to watch]]'' does the trick.
27th Mar '15 10:07:52 AM OlmoJV
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* EvilIsSexy: Jade, who has never been much into admiring boys, thinks that Phobos would look handsome in the eyes of many girls in her school.
27th Mar '15 10:05:03 AM OlmoJV
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* {{Foil}}: Jade and Elyon to eachother in some ways.

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* {{Foil}}: Jade and Elyon to eachother each other in some ways.more than one way.



** Elyon is worshipped by most of Meridian's population and Jade is [[HeroWithBadPublicity feared by most of them]].
** Elyon is a NaiveEverygirl and Jade is a [[GenreSavvy cunning]] [[GuileHero Guile Heroine]].

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** Elyon is worshipped by most of Meridian's population and Jade is [[HeroWithBadPublicity feared feared/hated by most of them]].
** Elyon is a NaiveEverygirl and Jade is a [[GenreSavvy cunning]] [[GuileHero Guile Heroine]].GuileHeroine.



* HannibalHasAPoint: Phobos may not be entirely wrong about the argument of his HannibalLecture: the rebels won ultimately with the help of the Guardians and Elyon.



* RootingForTheEmpire: Many fans of the story have become more sympathetic to the Knights of Vengeance than the Guardians or rebels. This must have been due to Jade's presence and the heroes' [[NiceJobBreakingItHero actions]].

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Many fans of the story have become more sympathetic to towards the Knights of Vengeance than the Guardians or rebels. This must have been due to Jade's presence and the heroes' [[NiceJobBreakingItHero actions]].



* VillainHasAPoint: Phobos may not be entirely wrong about the argument of his HannibalLecture: the rebels won ultimately with the help of the Guardians and Elyon.
** Nerissa thinks that Elyon is too naïve to keep Meridian from being ruined in half the time of her brother's rule. This argument has a merit of truth, given Caleb's BlackAndWhiteMorality viewpoint that borders on BlackAndWhiteInsanity. And unfortunately, most of the rebels seem to share his views. There's also the issue with [[KnightTemplar Kur]] and his own [[FantasticRacism views]].

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* VillainHasAPoint: Phobos may not be entirely wrong about the argument of his HannibalLecture: the rebels won ultimately with the help of the Guardians and Elyon.
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Nerissa thinks that Elyon is too naïve to keep Meridian from being ruined in half the time of her brother's rule. This argument has a merit of truth, given Caleb's BlackAndWhiteMorality viewpoint that borders on BlackAndWhiteInsanity. And unfortunately, most of the rebels seem to share his views. There's also the issue with [[KnightTemplar Kur]] and his own [[FantasticRacism views]].
21st Mar '15 6:49:22 AM OlmoJV
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** Elyon is Meridian's ruler [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking by]] [[RightfulKingReturns birthright]]. According to Yua, Jade will become a queen [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority through thrive and trial]].

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** Elyon is Meridian's ruler [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking by]] [[RightfulKingReturns by birthright]]. According to Yua, Jade will become a queen [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority through thrive and trial]].trial]].
** Elyon was prophecied to end her brother's tyrannical rule and [[RightfulKingReturns claim her rightful throne]]. Jade is apparently prophecied to [[TheAntichrist end Kandrakar's influence]] and [[DarkMessiah spread darkness across the Known Worlds]].
20th Mar '15 11:12:09 AM OlmoJV
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* {{Foil}}: Jade and Elyon in some ways.

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* {{Foil}}: Jade and Elyon to eachother in some ways.
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