History YMMV / JyuOhSei

14th Jul '17 8:41:41 AM Wilderstorm
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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Thor. [[HoYay Third and Zagi]] are the most popular, but they're far from the only examples. Tiz, Chen, Karim, [[spoiler:Heiser (if you count him as separate from Third)]]... nearly every pairing involving a character with whom he regularly interacts has shippers.
3rd Jul '17 4:54:09 AM Wilderstorm
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** Zagi can't keep his hands off of Thor, especially in the manga (his flirting is so obvious that Karim gets ''jealous'' of Thor, and other members of the Blanc Ring comment that "Top likes the cute ones"). Third prefers [[NoSenseOfPersonalSpace getting in his face]] and making suggestive comments.

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** Zagi [[BiTheWay Zagi]] can't keep his hands off of Thor, especially in the manga (his flirting is (he hits on Thor so obvious blatantly that Karim gets ''jealous'' of Thor, ''jealous'', and other members of the Blanc Ring comment that "Top likes the cute ones"). ones").
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Third prefers regularly [[NoSenseOfPersonalSpace getting gets in his face]] and making makes suggestive comments.
2nd Jul '17 8:55:11 AM Wilderstorm
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* {{Fanon}}: Any non-AU fanfic that takes place after the events of the manga is likely to feature at least one [[spoiler:dead character surviving [[KillEmAll the finale]]. Usually Third or Zagi, for [[HoYay shipping reasons]]. Considering that Zagi's fate is ambiguous in-story (death confirmed by WordOfGod), it's not difficult to tweak the details]].



** Rai is an 11-year-old child who was sent to Chimaera with absolutely no survival skills. He's terrified, gets beaten up by the wildlings when he spills water, and his brother almost kills him out of frustration when he complains. By the end of the first episode, he's dead. [[spoiler:And with TheReveal that he and Thor weren't actually related, it becomes very clear that Rai had no chance and was never expected to survive]].

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** Rai is an 11-year-old child who was is sent to Chimaera with absolutely no survival skills. He's terrified, gets beaten up by the wildlings when he spills water, and his brother almost kills him out of frustration when he complains.reasonably complains about being exhausted and dehydrated. By the end of the first episode, he's dead. [[spoiler:And with TheReveal that he and Thor weren't actually related, it becomes very clear that Rai had no chance and was never expected to survive]].
28th May '17 5:29:45 AM Wilderstorm
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** Karim. She was raised in a wildling nest by other feral children, and left them to follow Zagi when he passed through. He proceeded to [[MagnificentBastard do what he does]], using her and everyone else around him for his own ends, which she welcomed because it meant she was protecting him. And he casts her aside for daring to warn him that Thor might be dangerous, and later flat out admits that he was just doing that to set up a situation where Thor would get attached to her and he could use that connection. [[spoiler:Oh yeah, and then Third murders her to manipulate Thor into attacking Zagi]]. Zagi ''does'' claim to love her [[spoiler:after she dies]], but he's ''really bad'' at expressing that if it's true.

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** Karim. She was raised in a wildling nest by other feral children, and left them to follow Zagi when he passed through. He proceeded to [[MagnificentBastard do what he does]], using her and everyone else around him for his own ends, which she welcomed because it meant she was protecting him. And he casts her aside for daring to warn him that Thor might be dangerous, and later flat out admits that he was just doing that to set up a situation where Thor would get attached to her and he could use that connection. [[spoiler:Oh yeah, and then Third murders her to manipulate Thor into attacking Zagi]]. Zagi ''does'' claim to love her [[spoiler:after her, but [[spoiler:not until after she dies]], but dies, and]] he's ''really bad'' at expressing that if it's true.
15th May '17 4:16:45 AM Wilderstorm
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** Extremely subjective, as his {{Jerkass}} tendencies are ''severe'', but Zagi's [[FreudianExcuse past]] is fucked up even by the standards of [[CrapsackWorld this]] [[DysfunctionJunction series]]. His actions cannot be excused, but some people feel pretty bad for him.

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** Extremely subjective, as his {{Jerkass}} tendencies are ''severe'', but Zagi's [[FreudianExcuse past]] is fucked up even by the standards of [[CrapsackWorld this]] [[DysfunctionJunction series]]. His actions cannot be excused, but some people feel pretty bad for him. [[spoiler:Especially after Thor attacks him for something he didn't do, causing a horrible wound that eventually kills him]].



** Karim. She was raised in a wildling nest by other feral children, and left them to follow Zagi when he passed through. He proceeded to [[MagnificentBastard do what he does]], using her and everyone else around him for his own ends, which she welcomed because it meant she was protecting him. And he casts her aside for daring to warn him that Thor might be dangerous.

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** Karim. She was raised in a wildling nest by other feral children, and left them to follow Zagi when he passed through. He proceeded to [[MagnificentBastard do what he does]], using her and everyone else around him for his own ends, which she welcomed because it meant she was protecting him. And he casts her aside for daring to warn him that Thor might be dangerous.
dangerous, and later flat out admits that he was just doing that to set up a situation where Thor would get attached to her and he could use that connection. [[spoiler:Oh yeah, and then Third murders her to manipulate Thor into attacking Zagi]]. Zagi ''does'' claim to love her [[spoiler:after she dies]], but he's ''really bad'' at expressing that if it's true.
14th May '17 12:17:38 PM Wilderstorm
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Zagi. Quite literally after the TimeSkip in the anime.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Zagi. [[HellBentForLeather Quite literally literally]] after the TimeSkip in the anime.



** Zagi especially can't keep his hands off of Thor, especially in the manga (his flirting is so obvious that Karim gets ''jealous'' of Thor, and other members of the Blanc Ring comment that "Top likes the cute ones"). Third prefers [[NoSenseOfPersonalSpace getting in his face]] and making suggestive comments.

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** Zagi especially can't keep his hands off of Thor, especially in the manga (his flirting is so obvious that Karim gets ''jealous'' of Thor, and other members of the Blanc Ring comment that "Top likes the cute ones"). Third prefers [[NoSenseOfPersonalSpace getting in his face]] and making suggestive comments.




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* TheWoobie:
** Rai is an 11-year-old child who was sent to Chimaera with absolutely no survival skills. He's terrified, gets beaten up by the wildlings when he spills water, and his brother almost kills him out of frustration when he complains. By the end of the first episode, he's dead. [[spoiler:And with TheReveal that he and Thor weren't actually related, it becomes very clear that Rai had no chance and was never expected to survive]].
** Karim. She was raised in a wildling nest by other feral children, and left them to follow Zagi when he passed through. He proceeded to [[MagnificentBastard do what he does]], using her and everyone else around him for his own ends, which she welcomed because it meant she was protecting him. And he casts her aside for daring to warn him that Thor might be dangerous.
1st Apr '17 6:08:52 AM Wilderstorm
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** Extremely subjective, as his {{Jerkass}} tendencies are ''severe'', but Zagi's [[FreudianExcuse past]] is fucked up even by the standards of [[CrapsackWorld this series]]. His actions cannot be excused, but some people feel pretty bad for him.

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** Extremely subjective, as his {{Jerkass}} tendencies are ''severe'', but Zagi's [[FreudianExcuse past]] is fucked up even by the standards of [[CrapsackWorld this this]] [[DysfunctionJunction series]]. His actions cannot be excused, but some people feel pretty bad for him.


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* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Considering Thor and Chen are the only major characters who ''aren't'' [[KillEmAll dead by the end]], this was inevitable. Zagi and Third in particular.]]
28th Feb '17 5:56:46 AM Wilderstorm
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* {{Asspull}}: Thor's [[spoiler: chameleon ability]] is introduced late in the series, and only activates ''after'' it is brought to his attention by the plot. It makes more sense in the manga, though still more symbolic than anything.

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* {{Asspull}}: Thor's [[spoiler: chameleon [[spoiler:chameleon ability]] is introduced late in the series, and it only activates ''after'' it is brought to his attention by the plot. It makes more sense in the manga, though but it's still more symbolic than anything.



** [[spoiler: Third too]], after TheReveal of his origins and mission. Yes, you can make a very strong argument for him as a JerkassWoobie, but the fact remains he did some very reprehensible things that his fans tend to write off.

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** [[spoiler: Third [[spoiler:Third too]], after TheReveal of his origins and mission. Yes, you can make a very strong argument for him as a JerkassWoobie, but the fact remains he did some very reprehensible things that his fans tend to write off.



** Extremely subjective, as his {{Jerkass}} tendencies are ''severe'', but Zagi's [[FreudianExcuse past]] is pretty fucked up. Not that it justifies his actions, but some people feel pretty bad for him.
** [[spoiler: Third is a slightly less ambiguous example.]]

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** Extremely subjective, as his {{Jerkass}} tendencies are ''severe'', but Zagi's [[FreudianExcuse past]] is pretty fucked up. Not that it justifies his actions, up even by the standards of [[CrapsackWorld this series]]. His actions cannot be excused, but some people feel pretty bad for him.
** [[spoiler: Third [[spoiler:Third is a slightly less ambiguous example.]]
28th Dec '16 4:25:49 AM Wilderstorm
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* {{Narm}}: Thor flipping out about his adaptable nature changing his skin tone is a little ridiculous. Especially since the change is ''barely noticeable'' -- it's less obvious than most summer tans.

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* {{Narm}}: Thor flipping out about his adaptable nature changing his skin tone is a little ridiculous. Especially since the change is ''barely noticeable'' -- noticeable''; it's less obvious than most summer tans.tans, which he ''should'' have experienced during Chimaera's days by now.
4th Nov '16 9:15:13 AM Wilderstorm
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* {{Asspull}}: Thor's [[spoiler: chameleon ability]] is introduced late in the series, and only used once for some inexplicable and seemingly senseless reason, and only ''after'' it was brought to his attention by the plot. It makes more sense in the manga, though it's mostly symbolic.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Zagi. Quite literally after the TimeSkip.

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* {{Asspull}}: Thor's [[spoiler: chameleon ability]] is introduced late in the series, and only used once for some inexplicable and seemingly senseless reason, and only activates ''after'' it was is brought to his attention by the plot. It makes more sense in the manga, though it's mostly symbolic.
still more symbolic than anything.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Zagi. Quite literally after the TimeSkip.TimeSkip in the anime.



** Zagi especially can't keep his hands off of Thor, especially in the manga (where the HoYay is so obvious that Karim gets ''jealous'' of Thor). Third prefers the "getting in his face" method.

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** Zagi especially can't keep his hands off of Thor, especially in the manga (where the HoYay (his flirting is so obvious that Karim gets ''jealous'' of Thor). Thor, and other members of the Blanc Ring comment that "Top likes the cute ones"). Third prefers the "getting [[NoSenseOfPersonalSpace getting in his face" method.face]] and making suggestive comments.
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