History YMMV / JonathanCreek

1st May '17 7:37:12 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* InformedAbility: Although certainly clever and brave, Joey is initially introduced as Jonathan's intellectual equal, described on a television show as "someone whose powers of deduction and truly phenomenal flair for solving seemingly impossibly puzzles are beyond cool." Yet apart from ascertaining that the Nightmare Room is inescapable and discovering a clue that Jonathan misses (one which she slightly misinterprets), she doesn't solve any part of the mystery, and eventually admits: "I'm out of my depth here."
* JumpingTheShark: Lots of people consider Series 3 and 4 this-- or if they don't, even many more sympathetic viewers think 'The Grinning Man' was this.
** "The Clue of the Savant's Thumb". A very convincing prank lead to government assassins murdering anyone involved in the "intelligence leak", while Jonathan's new wife convinced him to quit magic, move out of the windmill, become a businessman in her family's company... and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking hang up his duffle coat for a suit!]]
9th Mar '17 2:54:09 AM GlassCatOwl
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** "The Curious Tale of Mr Spearfish" is resolved when Jonathan notes that two brown eyed parents can't likely have a brown eyed child and thus a character in the story is adopted and is secretly of RoyalBlood. [[http://genetics.thetech.org/how-blue-eyed-parents-can-have-brown-eyed-children This is false.]] (Although Jonathan does acknowledge that it's rare. This may just be a case of showing their work, as Jonathan only says it's "most unlikely" which is true which would have been enough to make him suspicious, but not enough for proof.)

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** "The Curious Tale of Mr Spearfish" is resolved when Jonathan notes that two brown blue eyed parents can't likely have a brown eyed child and thus a character in the story is adopted and is secretly of RoyalBlood. [[http://genetics.thetech.org/how-blue-eyed-parents-can-have-brown-eyed-children This is false.]] (Although Jonathan does acknowledge that it's rare. This may just be a case of showing their work, as Jonathan only says it's "most unlikely" which is true which would have been enough to make him suspicious, but not enough for proof.)



* ReplacementScrappy: Surprisingly averted after Maddy left the show. Although she is far and away the most popular sidekick, both Carla and Joey were generally accepted by audiences. [[TheScrappy Polly, on the other hand]], mocks Jonathan's fascinating and rare (former) career, gets rid of his duffle coat and thinks living in a windmill is childish...

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* ReplacementScrappy: Surprisingly averted after Maddy left the show. Although she is far and away the most popular sidekick, both Carla and Joey were generally accepted by audiences. [[TheScrappy Polly, on the other hand]], mocks Jonathan's fascinating and rare (former) career, gets rid of his duffle coat and thinks living in a windmill is childish... Although even she gets better, becoming the StraightMan to Jonathan's deadpan humour and occasional outright [[{{Troll}} trolling]].
14th Feb '17 1:32:51 PM Silverblade2
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** TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Most notably, the first episode of 2014 series broke with the show's long-established LockedRoomMystery format in favour of a ReverseWhodunnit - for many audience members, ''killing'' the precise reason that they enjoyed the show in the first place. Thankfully it proved to be a one off.

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** * TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Most notably, the first episode of 2014 series broke with the show's long-established LockedRoomMystery format in favour of a ReverseWhodunnit - for many audience members, ''killing'' the precise reason that they enjoyed the show in the first place. Thankfully it proved to be a one off.
31st Jan '17 10:56:18 AM MGD107
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** TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Most notably, the 2014 series broke with the show's long-established LockedRoomMystery format in favour of a ReverseWhodunnit - for many audience members, ''killing'' the precise reason that they enjoyed the show in the first place.

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** TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Most notably, the first episode of 2014 series broke with the show's long-established LockedRoomMystery format in favour of a ReverseWhodunnit - for many audience members, ''killing'' the precise reason that they enjoyed the show in the first place. Thankfully it proved to be a one off.
24th Jan '17 3:26:57 AM Sheepeditor
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** TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Most notably, the 2014 series broke with the show's long-established LockedRoomMystery format in favour of a ReverseWhodunnit - for many audience members, ''killing'' the precise reason that they enjoyed the show in the first place.
11th Jan '17 12:28:15 AM ApeAccount
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** Rebecca Front was in "The Eyes of Tiresias". Though she had some success prior to this, she's become far more recognisable due to roles such as ''Series/{{Lewis}}'' and ''Series/{{The Thick Of It}}'' after this.
11th Jan '17 12:15:05 AM ApeAccount
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* CriticalResearchFailure: "Murder at Gallow's Gate" has a woman identify a murderer from a line-up of suspects...''whilst in the same room with them''. She's actually escorted past them, giving the would-be killer ample opportunity for a good look at the key witness.
** "The Curious Tale of Mr Spearfish" is resolved when Jonathan notes that two brown eyed parents can't likely have a brown eyed child and thus a character in the story is adopted and is secretly of RoyalBlood. [[http://genetics.thetech.org/how-blue-eyed-parents-can-have-brown-eyed-children This is false.]] (Although Jonathan does acknowledge that it's rare.)

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* CriticalResearchFailure: "Murder at Gallow's Gate" has a woman identify a murderer from a line-up of suspects...''whilst in the same room with them''. She's actually escorted past them, giving the would-be killer ample opportunity for a good look at the key witness. \n This was actually a practice in police line-ups at one point historically, though should not have been by the time of this episode.
** "The Curious Tale of Mr Spearfish" is resolved when Jonathan notes that two brown eyed parents can't likely have a brown eyed child and thus a character in the story is adopted and is secretly of RoyalBlood. [[http://genetics.thetech.org/how-blue-eyed-parents-can-have-brown-eyed-children This is false.]] (Although Jonathan does acknowledge that it's rare. This may just be a case of showing their work, as Jonathan only says it's "most unlikely" which is true which would have been enough to make him suspicious, but not enough for proof.)
29th Sep '16 1:07:47 AM Dolski
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** "The Curious Tale of Mr Spearfish" is resolved when Jonathan notes that two brown eyed parents can't have a brown eyed child and thus a character in the story is adopted and is secretly of RoyalBlood. [[http://genetics.thetech.org/how-blue-eyed-parents-can-have-brown-eyed-children This is false.]]

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** "The Curious Tale of Mr Spearfish" is resolved when Jonathan notes that two brown eyed parents can't likely have a brown eyed child and thus a character in the story is adopted and is secretly of RoyalBlood. [[http://genetics.thetech.org/how-blue-eyed-parents-can-have-brown-eyed-children This is false.]]]] (Although Jonathan does acknowledge that it's rare.)
26th Sep '16 1:41:05 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* TearJerker: Barry's recounting [[spoiler:Maddy's childhood]] for Jonathan and Jonathan joining her at Gordon Hill in "The Scented Room."
** In the same episode, we have Maddy's admission that she might have [[spoiler: "stepped in front" of the wreckers knocking down her childhood home]] if Jonathan hadn't arrived when he did.
26th Sep '16 1:40:10 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Fair warning--if you watch ''QI'' before you watch Jonathan Creek, you may find it difficult to take Alan Davies seriously.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Fair warning--if you watch ''QI'' ''Series/{{QI}}'' before you watch Jonathan Creek, this, you may find it difficult to take Alan Davies seriously.


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** The [[spoiler: fake]] police guard in "The Three Gamblers" is a young [[Series/InspectorGeorgeGently Sgt. Bacchus]]! He changed a lot in the intervening decade, but you'll recognise the voice.
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