History YMMV / JohnnyTremain

10th Aug '15 3:53:57 PM SpectralTime
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Generally averted. While the American colonists are generally shown to be in the right, and the British government to be mismanaging and mistreating them, the book goes out of its way to establish that their flawed reasoning, and heavily humanizes the British military within Boston. Johnny struggles all book with the thought of having to kill good men serving a bad cause. And while many of the Sons of Liberty are shown in a very positive light, Sam Adams in particular is portrayed as a rabble-rouser with an axe to grind, caring less about any high-minded ideals than starting a ruckus for ruckus's own sake.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Generally averted. While the American colonists are generally shown to be in the right, and the British government to be mismanaging and mistreating them, the book goes out of its way to establish that their flawed reasoning, and heavily humanizes the British military within Boston. Johnny struggles all book with the thought of having to kill good men serving a bad cause. And while many of the Sons of Liberty and the Boston Observers are shown in a very positive light, Sam Adams in particular is portrayed as a rabble-rouser with an axe to grind, caring less about any high-minded ideals than starting a ruckus for ruckus's own sake.



* OneSceneWonder: James Otis, after a whole book of being mocked and belittled by the other characters while remaining off-page, gets a whole scene to himself at that last fateful meeting of the Sons of Liberty before the fighting starts. And, by God, it's a belter.

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* OneSceneWonder: James Otis, after a whole book of being mocked and belittled by the other characters as a mentally-unstable loser while remaining off-page, gets a whole scene to himself at that last fateful meeting of the Sons of Liberty Boston Observers before the fighting starts. And, by God, it's a belter.
10th Aug '15 3:46:07 PM SpectralTime
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Generally averted. While the American colonists are generally shown to be in the right, and the British government to be mismanaging and mistreating them, the book goes out of its way to establish that their flawed reasoning, and heavily humanizes the British military within Boston. Johnny struggles all book with the thought of having to kill good men serving a bad cause. And while many of the Sons of Liberty are shown in a very positive light, Sam Adams in particular is portrayed as a rabble-rouser with an axe to grind, caring less about any high-minded ideals than starting a ruckus for ruckus's own sake.
10th Aug '15 3:40:18 PM SpectralTime
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** The fingers still work, the problem is that they didn't get a real doctor and the herb-woman wrapped his thumb into the palm, and it healed that way, so no thumb-action. [[spoiler: Dr. Warren says he can fix it, when he finally gets a good look at it at the very end of the book. Not good enough to go back to smithing, but good enough to hold a gun at least.]]

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** The fingers still work, the problem is that they didn't get a real doctor and the herb-woman wrapped his thumb into the palm, and it healed that way, so no thumb-action. [[spoiler: Dr. Warren says he can fix it, when he finally gets a good look at it at the very end of the book. Not Probably not good enough to go back to smithing, and no one's going to be doing smithwork for a while now, but good enough to hold a gun at least.]]
10th Aug '15 3:39:28 PM SpectralTime
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* OneSceneWonder: James Otis, after a whole book of being mocked and belittled by the other characters while remaining off-page, gets a whole scene to himself at that last fateful meeting of the Sons of Liberty before the fighting starts. And, by God, it's a belter.
19th Apr '15 9:04:53 PM nombretomado
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The movie was released in 1957 and it's quite easy to see some of the political rhetoric in a pro-American ColdWar context, particularly when James Otis describes how it will be America's mission to bring freedom to the world and refers to the "serfs of Russia" as some of the people in need of said freedom. WaltDisney was a fervent and well-known anti-communist.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The movie was released in 1957 and it's quite easy to see some of the political rhetoric in a pro-American ColdWar UsefulNotes/ColdWar context, particularly when James Otis describes how it will be America's mission to bring freedom to the world and refers to the "serfs of Russia" as some of the people in need of said freedom. WaltDisney was a fervent and well-known anti-communist.
1st Apr '15 12:08:32 PM vifetoile
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The movie was released in 1957 and it's quite easy to see some of the political rhetoric in a pro-American ColdWar context, particularly when James Otis describes how it will be America's mission to bring freedom to the world and refers to the "serfs of Russia" as some of the people in need of said freedom. WaltDisney was a fervent and well-known anti-communist.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The movie was released in 1957 and it's quite easy to see some of the political rhetoric in a pro-American ColdWar context, particularly when James Otis describes how it will be America's mission to bring freedom to the world and refers to the "serfs of Russia" as some of the people in need of said freedom. WaltDisney was a fervent and well-known anti-communist.anti-communist.
** Even earlier than that, the ''book'' was released in 1943, when the United States was mired in the Second World War to aid its ally, England. The book depicts the English as noble and honorable souls, except for the Lytes. One character in the Sons of Liberty meetings even says something about how their generation has a glorious cause to fight for, and not all generations are so lucky.
14th Nov '14 4:29:20 PM MagBas
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* UnfortunateImplications: This book [[ValuesDissonance was published in 1943]]. Wherever black people are featured, it's racist as hell.
** The movie (1957) rectifies this by [[MonochromeCasting just not having black people]]. (Except for Jonathan Lyte's servants, but they hardly get any lines.)
21st Jan '14 9:37:51 AM Ecclytennysmithylove
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* EarWorm -- The Liberty Tree song in the Disney movie.
* HoYay -- There's plenty of Johnny/Rab fanfic out there.
* SpecialEffectsFailure -- The film includes some very obvious matte paintings.
* {{Squick}} -- When Johnny accidentally put his hand into molten silver, the scar tissue fused his fingers together.

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* EarWorm -- EarWorm: The Liberty Tree song in the Disney movie.
* HoYay -- HoYay: There's plenty of Johnny/Rab fanfic out there.
* SpecialEffectsFailure -- SpecialEffectsFailure: The film includes some very obvious matte paintings.
* {{Squick}} -- {{Squick}}: When Johnny accidentally put his hand into molten silver, the scar tissue fused his fingers together.



* UnfortunateImplications -- This book [[ValuesDissonance was published in 1943]]. Wherever black people are featured, it's racist as hell.

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* UnfortunateImplications -- UnfortunateImplications: This book [[ValuesDissonance was published in 1943]]. Wherever black people are featured, it's racist as hell.
23rd Jan '13 9:04:33 PM Random888
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* HoYay -- There's plenty of Johnny/Rab fanfic out there.
23rd Jan '13 8:38:51 PM Random888
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The movie was released in 1957 and it's quite easy to see some of the political rhetoric in a pro-American ColdWar context, particularly when James Otis describes how it will be America's mission to bring freedom to the world and refers to the "serfs of Russia" as some of the people in need of freedom. WaltDisney was a fervent and well-known anti-communist.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The movie was released in 1957 and it's quite easy to see some of the political rhetoric in a pro-American ColdWar context, particularly when James Otis describes how it will be America's mission to bring freedom to the world and refers to the "serfs of Russia" as some of the people in need of said freedom. WaltDisney was a fervent and well-known anti-communist.
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