History YMMV / JasonAndTheArgonauts

16th Jul '16 5:16:16 PM Anddrix
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** Which film is better. Fans of the Harryhausen film defend it quite passionately, though some mistake the 2000 film for a remake when it's really just a TruerToTheText adaptation of the original myth.



* BrokenBase: Which film is better. Fans of the Harryhausen film defend it quite passionately, though some mistake the 2000 film for a remake when it's really just a TruerToTheText adaptation of the original myth.
25th Nov '15 6:38:37 AM fearlessnikki
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Jason and Medea are very much the DesignatedHero in the original myth and film. The 2000 miniseries goes out of its way to make Jason more unambiguously heroic - being ordered to get the Fleece to save his mother's life. Medea likewise gets shown to grieve for the deaths of her father and brother.
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** The happy ending in the Hallmark film. Some despise it since this one is explicitly more faithful to the myth, and it contradicts the DownerEnding. Others feel it fits the tone of the story, especially since the Harryhausen film cuts off before the return journey to Pelias.
** Including Atalanta in the 2000 film. Some invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks and complain about political correctness (especially with the AffirmativeActionGirl being involved in some kind of love triangle with Jason). Others are fine with it, since some myths do say that Jason included Atalanta on the voyage.
* BrokenBase: Which film is better. Fans of the Harryhausen film defend it quite passionately, though some mistake the 2000 film for a remake when it's really just a TruerToTheText adaptation of the original myth.



* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Hera is one of the most memorable things about both films. It helps that in the first Honor Blackman absolutely steals the show, and overall it's one of the rare myths in which Hera is heroic (rather than the EvilMatriarch she normally is).
** From the 2000 film, Actor gets a lot of love since he's a LovableRogue who ends up with a full-on HeelFaceTurn.
** Acastus in a sense, given how both myths apply AdaptationalVillainy - leaving viewers feeling sorry for him. He's also sympathetic in both versions, since the Harryhausen film has Jason attempting to usurp the throne from him. And in the 2000 version he's a WellDoneSonGuy.
* FanPreferredCouple: Atalanta and Actor end on a MaybeEverAfter situation but the fans generally agree that Atalanta will move on with him.



* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Every monster in the movie, but the crowning moment is undoubtedly the fighting skeletons scene. That 3 minute scene took Ray Harryhausen 4 months of solid work!

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Unfortunately the Harryhausen film does not have the time to develop the remaining Argonauts - with Acastus, Argus, Hercules and Hylas being the only ones who get more than the odd line. Conversely the miniseries has more developed LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Every monster in the movie, but the crowning moment is undoubtedly the fighting skeletons scene. That 3 minute scene took Ray Harryhausen 4 months of solid work!work! The Talos scene also holds up reasonably well over the years.
22nd Mar '15 10:31:38 AM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: In the 2000 Hallmark MadeForTVMovie, [[EvilUncle Pelias]], like his mythological counterpart, is the brother of King Aeson of Iolcus and an uncle of the titular protagonist, but is [[AdaptationalVillainy much more evil]] than in the myth or in the 1963 film. He and his soldiers invade Iolcus and terrorize civillians. In his EstablishingCharacterMoment, he gives a hug to his brother only to [[CainAndAbel stab him with the knife]] saying; "My destiny is to rule!" He attempts to [[WouldHurtAChild murder the baby Jason]], only for the latter to be saved by a bodyguard. Couple years later, Pelias sends an adult Jason on a dangerous mission to find the Golden Fleece, hoping that Jason never succeeds, and threatens to kill Jason's mom whom he earlier forced to marry him. Near the end of the film, when his son, Acastus, brings Pelias the Golden Fleece, Pelias fakes gratitude and [[OffingTheOffspring murders his own son]], taking the Golden Fleece. Seconds later he holds Medea hostage. In his final act of malice, Pelias lies to Jason that he has been overcome with madness by the Fleece while giving him a hug, but secretly he was just trying to kill Jason in the same way he killed King Aeson earlier.
9th Dec '14 1:58:12 PM Ciara25
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* NightmareFuel: ''Everything'' with Talos in the Harryhausen film, from the moment he wakes up and starts chasing the Argonauts to his death scene, where he grabs his throat and starts making noises like screeching metal.
9th Dec '13 3:19:41 AM blueranger
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* HilariousInHindsight: Brian Thompson plays Demigod Hercules in the Hallmark film. A few years later he would get bumped up and play Cronus in ''{{Charmed}}''.
3rd Aug '13 8:47:30 AM TVRulezAgain
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* CompleteMonster: Pelias in both versions. Aeetes could also count.
28th Mar '13 1:51:44 PM Austin
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* FanDisservice: In the 60s film did we really have to see all the topless old men? And Hercules is definitely not a catch.



* LargeHam: Zetes in the Hallmark film and Acastus in the Harryhausen one.
14th Oct '12 3:39:34 PM Tarlonniel
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* OneSceneWonder: Honor Blackman steals the show in the Harryhausen film, playing Hera.

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* OneSceneWonder: Honor Blackman steals the show in the Harryhausen film, playing Hera. Olivia Williams steals the show in the Hallmark film, coincidentally also playing Hera.
14th Oct '12 3:38:46 PM Tarlonniel
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* OneSceneWonder: Honor Blackman steals the show in the Harryhausen film, playing Hera.
9th May '12 4:53:10 PM blueranger
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** Averted in the Hallmark film where he must find the Fleece or else his mother will be killed.
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