History YMMV / JamesAndTheGiantPeach

23rd Sep '17 8:49:03 AM Mineburst
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* UnexpectedCharacter: [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas Jack Skellington]] shows up as the captain of the skeleton pirates. Henry Selik and Creator/TimBurton worked on both films and the model for Jack was reused for the pirate captain.
14th Sep '17 1:45:18 AM Scabbard
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Here's how it could have worked in the movie: the rhino was an eldetrich abomination that the old man was put in charge of locking up. But it escaped one night due to his carelessness, and when it entered earth, it killed James parents merely because they were the first people it saw, but not James because it did not notice him. There also could have been a subplot about the authorities not believing James about the rhino's true self and assuming that the shock of seeing an ordinary rhino eat his parents traumatized him so much that he imaged the rhino that way. It also would have explained why the old man wanted to help James escape, since HE was indirectly responsible for his parents death.

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\n** Here's how it could have worked in the movie: the rhino was an eldetrich eldritch abomination that the old man was put in charge of locking up. But it escaped one night due to his carelessness, and when it entered earth, it killed James parents merely because they were the first people it saw, but not James because it did not notice him. There also could have been a subplot about the authorities not believing James about the rhino's true self and assuming that the shock of seeing an ordinary rhino eat his parents traumatized him so much that he imaged the rhino that way. It also would have explained why the old man wanted to help James escape, since HE was indirectly responsible for his parents death.
13th Sep '17 7:03:41 AM Hedging
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The notion of turning the ordinary rhinocerous that ate James' parents from the book into a demonic being from the clouds was not a bad one and had quite a bit of potential, but the writers were a bit too lazy in executing it, resulting in its role in the film being confusing.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The notion concept of turning the ordinary rhinocerous rhino that ate killed James' parents from in the book into a demonic being from the clouds Chernabog-esque Eldrich abomination itself was not a bad one idea and had quite a bit of potential, but could have worked perfectly.The trouble was that the writers were a bit far too lazy in with executing it, resulting in its role not giving it any backstory or apparent motive, making the concept confusing. Why did it attack James parents in the film being confusing.first place? Were the aunts aware that it was a cloud monster in the beginning, or just taunting him? Why did the rhino wait until the group reached New York to attack them as opposed to earlier? Was it even real or just James imagination?

Here's how it could have worked in the movie: the rhino was an eldetrich abomination that the old man was put in charge of locking up. But it escaped one night due to his carelessness, and when it entered earth, it killed James parents merely because they were the first people it saw, but not James because it did not notice him. There also could have been a subplot about the authorities not believing James about the rhino's true self and assuming that the shock of seeing an ordinary rhino eat his parents traumatized him so much that he imaged the rhino that way. It also would have explained why the old man wanted to help James escape, since HE was indirectly responsible for his parents death.
11th Sep '17 7:25:19 AM yakko
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** The backgrounds in New York City are very obviously painted backdrops.

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** The backgrounds in New York City A few of the special effects are very obviously [[SpecialEffectsFailure quite unconvincing]], such as the clearly wooden seagull puppets, the clearly cgi-mechanical shark and ocean water, and the clearly painted backdrops. backdrops used for NYC.
11th Sep '17 7:21:43 AM yakko
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** The backgrounds in New York City are very obviously painted backdrops.
21st Aug '17 11:10:57 AM Hedging
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The notion of turning the ordinary rhinocerous that ate James' parents from the book into a demonic being from the clouds was actually not a bad one, but the writers were a bit too lazy in executing it, resulting in its role being confusing.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The notion of turning the ordinary rhinocerous that ate James' parents from the book into a demonic being from the clouds was actually not a bad one, one and had quite a bit of potential, but the writers were a bit too lazy in executing it, resulting in its role in the film being confusing.
20th Aug '17 11:13:05 AM Hedging
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The notion of turning the ordinary rhinocerous that ate James' parents from the book into a demonic being from the clouds was actually not a bad one, but the writers were a bit too lazy in executing it, resulting in its role being confusing.
20th Aug '17 9:36:56 AM Hedging
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4th Aug '17 1:19:16 PM Anddrix
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** The undead pirate scene, which is lead by [[{{WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas}} Jack Skellington]], has an expy of DonaldDuck among his crew. Six years later, ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsI Kingdom Hearts]]'' was released, with Donald as one of the main characters and Halloween Town being a playable world, with Jack serving as it's GuestStarPartyMember. Likewise, the main party become undead there, though Donald is turned into a {{Mummy}} instead.
*** Even more hilarious in the French dub of the film; Sora and James share [[Creator/DonaldReignoux a voice actor]]!

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** The undead pirate scene, which is lead by [[{{WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas}} Jack Skellington]], has an expy of DonaldDuck among his crew. Six years later, ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsI Kingdom Hearts]]'' was released, with Donald as one of the main characters and Halloween Town being a playable world, with Jack serving as it's GuestStarPartyMember. Likewise, the main party become undead there, though Donald is turned into a {{Mummy}} instead.
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instead. Even more hilarious in the French dub of the film; Sora and James share [[Creator/DonaldReignoux a voice actor]]!



** Depending on how you view it, the ''entire film'' could be this or NarmCharm due to the heavy-handed nature of some of the scenes and some of the music.



* TheWoobie: James. Poor, poor James. He had such GoodParents, until they died and his evil aunts took him in. You can guess how well THAT went for him.
** Worse, while watching his aunts publicize the giant peach, kids are present there. However, James is forbidden to leave the house, and he sheds a tear as the only possible friends he would make just come and go.

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* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
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James. Poor, poor James. He had such GoodParents, until they died and his evil aunts took him in. You can guess how well THAT went for him.
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him. Worse, while watching his aunts publicize the giant peach, kids are present there. However, James is forbidden to leave the house, and he sheds a tear as the only possible friends he would make just come and go.



* WhatAnIdiot: Centipede [[BullyingTheDragon insulting the Cloud People in the book.]]

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* WhatAnIdiot: WhatAnIdiot:
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Centipede [[BullyingTheDragon insulting the Cloud People in the book.]]
4th Aug '17 1:08:22 PM ForMagic
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** Miss Spider can also come across as this in the book. It's hard to not feel bad for her when she confesses that she doesn't understand why people hate spiders, or when she bursts into tears in the middle of talking about her relatives that were killed in front of her. Her film counterpart, while more of a DeadpanSnarker, also has some shades of woobiness as well; she isolates herself because she's aware the other bugs fear and distrust her, and she admits that she doesn't know what it's like to have friends.

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** Miss Spider can also come across as this in the book. It's hard to not feel bad for her when she confesses that she doesn't understand why people hate spiders, or when she bursts into tears in the middle of talking about her relatives that were being killed in front of her. Her film counterpart, while more of a DeadpanSnarker, also has some shades of woobiness as well; she isolates herself because she's aware the other bugs fear and distrust her, and she admits that she doesn't know what it's like to have friends.
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