History YMMV / JackDavidHopkins

4th Aug '16 1:57:14 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Doctor]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Rigor]] Thalmus is a [[WouldHurtAChild child molester and child murderer]] who attempts to frame his subordinate, [[SadisticChoice using his own cancer research and his subordinate's in-bed-with-cancer wife as leverage.]] He also serves as a very dark deconstruction and subversion of a BunnyEarsLawyer; he believes that he's entitled to the horrible things he does precisely because he's working on cures for cancer. And unlike Drip Tiberius Rat (previously listed as the worst character in ''Jack''), he doesn't have any sympathetic moments or FreudianExcuse for anything he has ever done. The only reason he committed these horrible acts is because he gets off on them.

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* CompleteMonster: [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Doctor]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Rigor]] Thalmus is a [[WouldHurtAChild child molester and child murderer]] who attempts to frame his subordinate, [[SadisticChoice using his own cancer research and his subordinate's in-bed-with-cancer wife as leverage.]] leverage]]. He also serves as a very dark deconstruction and subversion of a BunnyEarsLawyer; he believes that he's entitled to the horrible things he does precisely because he's working on cures for cancer. And unlike Drip Tiberius Rat (previously listed as the worst character in ''Jack''), he He doesn't have any sympathetic moments or FreudianExcuse for anything he has ever done. The done; the only reason he committed these horrible acts is [[ForTheEvulz because he gets off on them.them]].
14th Jul '16 8:58:11 AM IMBoring
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** Suicide is bad, though this SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.

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** Suicide is bad, though this is SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.
14th Jul '16 8:57:49 AM IMBoring
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** Suicide is bad, m'kay?

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** Suicide is bad, m'kay?though this SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.
13th Feb '16 7:25:39 AM IMBoring
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* IdiotPlot: Furrykind took over the planet when some idiot made Jack's cell so poorly it could be broken out of with a ''fork'', and Sheepgod followed up by forcing a repeat of all of human history played out by furries instead of humans. Also, since Hell (and Heaven by extension) don't operate on linear time, this basically means that the only reason anything happens, ever, is because Sheepgod is too stupid and self-absorbed to do anything besides hitting the ResetButton.
1st Feb '16 4:45:01 PM PurpleAlert
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* IdiotPlot: Furrykind took over the planet when some idiot made Jack's cell so poorly it could be broken out of with a ''fork'', and Sheepgod followed up by forcing a repeat of all of human history played out by furries instead of humans. Also, since Hell (and Heaven by extension) don't operate on linear time, this basically means that the only reason anything happens, ever, is because Sheepgod is too stupid and self-absorbed to do anything besides hitting the ResetButton.
24th Jan '16 5:49:03 PM Tyk5919
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** All of the Sins, really. Jack is just the only one who's actually trying to seek redemption.
19th Nov '15 5:27:40 AM naal2
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** All of the Sins, really. Jack is just the only one who's actually trying to seek redemption.
8th Jun '15 12:53:22 PM IMBoring
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* HarsherInHindsight: The plotlines centering on childhood sexual abuse are... let's be diplomatic and say "unsettling", now that Hopkins is being investigated for making obscene phone calls to a sexual abuse survivor, during which he masturbated over the abuse she suffered.
28th May '15 5:42:13 AM Tyk5919
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* {{Squick}}: Too many examples to list here, but [[http://www.pholph.com/strip.php?id=5&sid=1312 "So This Family Walks Into This Talent Agency..."]] summarizes how gross the strip can be, with Hopkins' take on the old TheAristocrats joke.
* UnfortunateImplications: Far, far too many too many to mention, but it's clear that some people don't take the same things from it that the writer does. A small list of examples:
** Drip is Dave's AuthorAvatar, and believes his mother was a good woman who loved him... except we see her in the comic, she was murdered before Drip could form any real memories of her, and we're not told anything about her beyond that. Considering the rest of the comic's treatment of sexualized violence against women, does that mean [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/22516528444/yet-one-more-thing-i-do-not-get-about-drip-so-hes-all the definition of a good mother is one who gives birth, and then dies?]]
** It's not ''really'' rape [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/22459898612/i-love-his-justification-of-a-teacher-creepin-on-a if the rapist is hot and the victim is a teenage boy!]] Being sexually abused by your grandmother is nasty, but not if it's your hot babe teacher.
** Jack [[spoiler: attempts to kill Farrago, or as close as one can come to killing an angel, by strangling]] and her response is to [[spoiler: have her memories wiped so she can forgive him.]] Of course she would, because [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/24190795152/oh-what-thats-it-i-hated-the-memory-loss-plot-in-the her objection is the problem, not his abuse.]] [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/65991267496/can-i-underline-really-really-hard-like This is something of a common implication of his comic.]]
** Apparently, women are defined by having babies, to the point that losing a pregnancy (intentionally or otherwise) will damn them to hell, but as shown with Jink, [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/24365729129/why-is-jink-even-in-hell-i-always-tought-that-the accepting motherhood redeems them with no consideration for their sins in life, even if those sins involve sending other women to be tortured and raped.]] It also means that rape is a ''good thing'' in this universe, [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/87297762846/jack-tells-fnar-that-his-mother-would-have-been-a-good because it makes souls grow and makes women have babies.]]
** Fnar's eyes, drawn as the usual pinpricks the same way the eyes of damned souls are, are suddenly opened after [[spoiler: he is raped by Drip.]] He then gets the wide eyes that come with being "saved". [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/67463457003/i-was-gonna-wait-on-it-until-the-appropriate-page-but This observation]] [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/67365668910/waitwaitwait-fnar-has-had-damned-eyes-for-as-long-as has been noted]] [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/60353318106 multiple times.]]
** It's wrong to hold grudges! But since the vast majority of characters who actually hold grudges are women who hold onto anger at their abusers and get punished for it, it seems that [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/70190125981/not-sure-where-the-but-if-a-woman-does-it-comment it's wrong for women to be angry]] [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/88670865176/new-pages-in-the-time-machine-make-it-clear-that-the and it's more of a sin for women to be angry at their abusers than it is for men to abuse women in the first place.]]
** Megan spends most of ''Megan's Run'' focused on Susan, the little girl whose life she's trying to save, to the point of coming off as a sexual attraction. In that same arc, she realizes she's attracted to women and sleeps with Farrago, which wouldn't raise any eyebrows, except that while she's describing Susan, she affects [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/56511358523/id-ask-how-he-could-lack-such-awareness-but-we the exact same body language as the pedophile who had every intention of raping Susan.]] It doesn't help that in ''Megan's Run 2'', she [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/57152431177/after-reading-hopkins-script-for-megans-run-2-i describes the air in Heaven as "tasting like Susan's smile", and then masturbates.]]
** Hopkins' God character has a conversation with Central that plays out like an [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/90056595646/sheepgod-is-the-ultimate-abuser-she-really-is encapsulated version of a textbook emotional abuse cycle]], complete with the abuser making herself out to be the injured party even though she's the reason for the unfair laws causing all the problems, and the victim being browbeaten into staying after objecting to the abuser's behavior.
** Performing oral sex on a woman is associated with [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/97156057106/the-whole-going-down-on-a-woman-is-inherently emasculation and being abused]]. This is especially notable because although many, many of Hopkins' female characters are in relationships with women, their physical interactions don't tend to get any heavier than cuddling.

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* {{Squick}}: Too many examples to list here, but [[http://www.pholph.com/strip.php?id=5&sid=1312 "So This Family Walks Into This Talent Agency..."]] summarizes how gross the strip can be, with Hopkins' take on the old TheAristocrats joke.
* UnfortunateImplications: Far, far too many too many to mention, but it's clear that some people don't take the same things from it that the writer does. A small list of examples:
** Drip is Dave's AuthorAvatar, and believes his mother was a good woman who loved him... except we see her in the comic, she was murdered before Drip could form any real memories of her, and we're not told anything about her beyond that. Considering the rest of the comic's treatment of sexualized violence against women, does that mean [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/22516528444/yet-one-more-thing-i-do-not-get-about-drip-so-hes-all the definition of a good mother is one who gives birth, and then dies?]]
** It's not ''really'' rape [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/22459898612/i-love-his-justification-of-a-teacher-creepin-on-a if the rapist is hot and the victim is a teenage boy!]] Being sexually abused by your grandmother is nasty, but not if it's your hot babe teacher.
** Jack [[spoiler: attempts to kill Farrago, or as close as one can come to killing an angel, by strangling]] and her response is to [[spoiler: have her memories wiped so she can forgive him.]] Of course she would, because [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/24190795152/oh-what-thats-it-i-hated-the-memory-loss-plot-in-the her objection is the problem, not his abuse.]] [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/65991267496/can-i-underline-really-really-hard-like This is something of a common implication of his comic.]]
** Apparently, women are defined by having babies, to the point that losing a pregnancy (intentionally or otherwise) will damn them to hell, but as shown with Jink, [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/24365729129/why-is-jink-even-in-hell-i-always-tought-that-the accepting motherhood redeems them with no consideration for their sins in life, even if those sins involve sending other women to be tortured and raped.]] It also means that rape is a ''good thing'' in this universe, [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/87297762846/jack-tells-fnar-that-his-mother-would-have-been-a-good because it makes souls grow and makes women have babies.]]
** Fnar's eyes, drawn as the usual pinpricks the same way the eyes of damned souls are, are suddenly opened after [[spoiler: he is raped by Drip.]] He then gets the wide eyes that come with being "saved". [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/67463457003/i-was-gonna-wait-on-it-until-the-appropriate-page-but This observation]] [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/67365668910/waitwaitwait-fnar-has-had-damned-eyes-for-as-long-as has been noted]] [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/60353318106 multiple times.]]
** It's wrong to hold grudges! But since the vast majority of characters who actually hold grudges are women who hold onto anger at their abusers and get punished for it, it seems that [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/70190125981/not-sure-where-the-but-if-a-woman-does-it-comment it's wrong for women to be angry]] [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/88670865176/new-pages-in-the-time-machine-make-it-clear-that-the and it's more of a sin for women to be angry at their abusers than it is for men to abuse women in the first place.]]
** Megan spends most of ''Megan's Run'' focused on Susan, the little girl whose life she's trying to save, to the point of coming off as a sexual attraction. In that same arc, she realizes she's attracted to women and sleeps with Farrago, which wouldn't raise any eyebrows, except that while she's describing Susan, she affects [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/56511358523/id-ask-how-he-could-lack-such-awareness-but-we the exact same body language as the pedophile who had every intention of raping Susan.]] It doesn't help that in ''Megan's Run 2'', she [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/57152431177/after-reading-hopkins-script-for-megans-run-2-i describes the air in Heaven as "tasting like Susan's smile", and then masturbates.]]
** Hopkins' God character has a conversation with Central that plays out like an [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/90056595646/sheepgod-is-the-ultimate-abuser-she-really-is encapsulated version of a textbook emotional abuse cycle]], complete with the abuser making herself out to be the injured party even though she's the reason for the unfair laws causing all the problems, and the victim being browbeaten into staying after objecting to the abuser's behavior.
** Performing oral sex on a woman is associated with [[http://kate-comics.tumblr.com/post/97156057106/the-whole-going-down-on-a-woman-is-inherently emasculation and being abused]]. This is especially notable because although many, many of Hopkins' female characters are in relationships with women, their physical interactions don't tend to get any heavier than cuddling.
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24th May '15 6:14:44 AM EgoProxy
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* HarsherInHindsight: The plotlines centering on childhood sexual abuse are... let's be diplomatic and say "unsettling", now that Hopkins is being investigated for making obscene phone calls to a sexual abuse survivor, during which he masturbated over the abuse she suffered.
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