History YMMV / Injustice2

19th Sep '17 2:27:48 PM number9robotic
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: From particular fans of them, there have been complaints of Netherrealm's {{Retcon}}s altering events either shown or hinted at in both the original game and the highly well-received comic series. The most common complaints are that they either make Superman and/or the Regime [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade look worse than they used to]], or seem like an attempt to make Batman and associates less UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.

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From particular fans of them, there have been complaints of Netherrealm's {{Retcon}}s altering events either shown or hinted at in both the original game and the highly well-received comic series. The most common complaints are that they either make Superman and/or the Regime [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade look worse than they used to]], or seem like an attempt to make Batman and associates less UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.
** The changes to The Joker and Harley Quinn tend to draw a lot of criticism, with a dash of WereStillRelevantDammit. One note usually made is that their current appearances seem to be inspired by the then-recent but poorly-received ''Film/SuicideSquad2016'', with accusations of NRS being "edgy" [[FollowTheLeader to capitalize with the film's portrayals]] and the Film/DCExtendedUniverse at large, which are already themselves [[BrokenBase base-breaking]]. Also, within the Injustice series itself, Harley's more Creator/MargotRobbie-inspired personality has also been met with some disdain, partially because of the characterization itself being more ditzy and air-headed, but also because story-wise, it seems to be [[AesopAmnesia a regression that undoes some of her development in]] [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs the first game.]]
19th Sep '17 12:14:00 PM TheNerevarine
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** In Issue #24, [[spoiler:Aqualad crosses this when he summons a huge tidal wave in Washington and killing the President of the United States and countless other innocents in the process.]]

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** In Issue #24, [[spoiler:Aqualad crosses this reveals himself to be a villain when he summons a huge tidal wave in Washington and killing the President of the United States and countless other innocents in the process.]]



** Its supposed to elicit sympathy for Ra's al Ghul on the reader when [[spoiler:his sanctuary with endangered animals is destroyed with their species practically extinguished]], as well as his intention to save the Earth's ecosystem. Its harder to buy this due to him having [[spoiler: kidnapped several superhero's children and threatened to harm them so their parents wouldn't interrupt his plans, threatens the life of Professor Ivo's family so he could create Amazo for him, as well as having killed Ted Kord, the US President and many countless people]].

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** Its supposed to elicit sympathy for Ra's al Ghul on the reader when [[spoiler:his sanctuary with endangered animals is destroyed with their species practically extinguished]], as well as his intention to save the Earth's ecosystem. Its harder hard to buy this due to him having crossed the MoralEventHorizon [[spoiler: kidnapped several superhero's children and children, threatened to harm them so their parents wouldn't interrupt his plans, threatens which he also does the life of same to Professor Ivo's family so he could create Amazo for him, as well as him. Not to mention having killed arranged the death of several people like Ted Kord, Kord and the US President and President, the latter of whose's assassination also caused immense collateral damage with many countless people]].innocent citizens dying in the process]].
19th Sep '17 10:01:03 AM TheNerevarine
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* MoralEventHorizon: In the eyes of some, Ra's Al Ghul crosses this in issue 10 when he [[spoiler:kidnaps several business executives (among them, Ted Kord, the second Blue Beetle) who are allegedly in charge of "[[AnimalWrongsGroup the most environmentally destructive businesses on Earth]]", and decides to MakeAnExampleOfThem by ordering the Suicide Squad to blow up entire buildings full of innocents all over the world which belong to the executives, then [[ImAHumanitarian feeding his captives]] to Orca and Killer Croc]]. His grandson Damian is [[EvenEvilHasStandards distinctly shook up]] at the thought of it.

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In the eyes of some, Ra's Al Ghul crosses this in issue 10 when he [[spoiler:kidnaps several business executives (among them, Ted Kord, the second Blue Beetle) who are allegedly in charge of "[[AnimalWrongsGroup the most environmentally destructive businesses on Earth]]", and decides to MakeAnExampleOfThem by ordering the Suicide Squad to blow up entire buildings full of innocents all over the world which belong to the executives, then [[ImAHumanitarian feeding his captives]] to Orca and Killer Croc]]. His grandson Damian is [[EvenEvilHasStandards distinctly shook up]] at the thought of it.it.
** In Issue #24, [[spoiler:Aqualad crosses this when he summons a huge tidal wave in Washington and killing the President of the United States and countless other innocents in the process.]]



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Athanasia [[spoiler:al Ghul]] has great potential as a ShadowArchetype to Damian and a symbol of what he could have been if he had stayed with the League, particularly with TheReveal that [[spoiler:she is his sister]], but has so far been a background character for most of the time since her debut, often with barely an acknowledgement given. Talia has been even more wasted, with even less lines and characterisation than her [[spoiler:daughter]], given the implications that she has somehow died by the time of the game.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Harley gets hits hard with this in Issue 7 when the BigBad himself, ''of all people'', rightfully points out her role in Metropolis' destruction helped create the dystopian world that Earth has become. She headbutts him in response and to be fair, he deserved it for threatening her daughter Lucy if Harley did not comply, but it doesn't make his accusations any less true. She then tries to justify her actions by claiming she was expecting Superman to save the day in the end, essentially ''[[NeverMyFault blaming him for failing and creating the mess she and the Joker made in the first place]]''.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Athanasia [[spoiler:al Ghul]] has great potential as a ShadowArchetype to Damian and a symbol of what he could have been if he had stayed with the League, particularly with TheReveal that [[spoiler:she is his sister]], but has so far been a background character for most of the time since her debut, often with barely an acknowledgement given. Talia has been even more wasted, with even less lines and characterisation characterization than her [[spoiler:daughter]], given the implications that she has somehow died by the time of the game.
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Harley gets hits hard with this in Issue 7 when the BigBad himself, ''of all people'', rightfully points out her role in Metropolis' destruction helped create the dystopian world that Earth has become. She headbutts him in response and to be fair, he deserved it for threatening her daughter Lucy if Harley did not comply, but it doesn't make his accusations any less true. She then tries to justify her actions by claiming she was expecting Superman to save the day in the end, essentially ''[[NeverMyFault blaming him for failing and creating the mess she and the Joker made in the first place]]''.place]]''.
** Its supposed to elicit sympathy for Ra's al Ghul on the reader when [[spoiler:his sanctuary with endangered animals is destroyed with their species practically extinguished]], as well as his intention to save the Earth's ecosystem. Its harder to buy this due to him having [[spoiler: kidnapped several superhero's children and threatened to harm them so their parents wouldn't interrupt his plans, threatens the life of Professor Ivo's family so he could create Amazo for him, as well as having killed Ted Kord, the US President and many countless people]].
18th Sep '17 11:02:00 AM number9robotic
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*** This problem has gotten even worse with newer characters and premier skins following an [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9317_video_game_voice_actor_strike ongoing VA strike]] that's preventing most of the game's voice actors from returning to their roles. As a result, characters with new voices have to interact with voice clips for other dialogues, and the clunkiness and recycling has gotten even more glaring.

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*** This problem has gotten even worse with newer characters and premier skins following an [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9317_video_game_voice_actor_strike ongoing VA strike]] that's preventing most of the game's voice actors from returning to their roles. As a result, characters with new voices [=VOs=] have to interact with already-existing voice clips meant for other dialogues, and the clunkiness and recycling has gotten even more glaring.glaring (though this mostly extends to vanilla characters; DLC characters/premier skins have some unique interactions among themselves).
18th Sep '17 1:07:46 AM Connor2107
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** Many were upset with Raiden's confirmation, calling him a waste of a slot. His reveal trailer confirmed that Black Lightning will be a premier skin for him.
18th Sep '17 1:05:23 AM Connor2107
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** Many were upset with Raiden's confirmation, calling him a waste of a slot. His reveal trailer confirmed that Black Lightning will be a premier skin for him.
17th Sep '17 11:12:00 PM Brandar
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** "Tiddy widow" [[labelnote:Explanation]] Many commentators on Tumblr noticed Raiden's design exports his shirt open providing a rare male example of AbsoluteCleavage [[/labelnote]]

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** "Tiddy widow" [[labelnote:Explanation]] Many [[labelnote:Explanation]]Many commentators on Tumblr noticed Raiden's design exports his shirt open providing a rare male example of AbsoluteCleavage AbsoluteCleavage.[[/labelnote]]
** "RIP cameraman" [[labelnote:Explanation]] Commentators feeling sympathy for the "cameraman" who receives all the TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou abuse during victory cutscenes.
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17th Sep '17 10:58:57 PM number9robotic
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** [[VideoGame/MortalKombat Raiden]]. He's easily disliked by nearly every one of the ''Injustice'' fanbase just for being another ''Mortal Kombat'' character taking up a DLC slot in what is supposed to be a DC fighter. While many could tolerate Sub-Zero as the token MK guest, it's widely agreed that Boon took it too far by having Raiden as another MK guest. When he was teased during the first fighter pack, people hoped that it was just Boon being a troll, only to realize in horror that it was for real. The announcement of an alternative premier skin as Black Lightning, however, has been meet with wide praise, though the court's still out on whether Raiden himself is RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap or not.

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** [[VideoGame/MortalKombat Raiden]]. He's easily disliked by nearly every one of the ''Injustice'' fanbase just for being another ''Mortal Kombat'' character taking up a DLC slot in what is supposed to be a DC fighter. While many could tolerate Sub-Zero as the token MK guest, it's widely agreed that Boon took it too far by having Raiden as another MK guest. When he was teased during the first fighter pack, people hoped that it was just Boon being a troll, only to realize in horror that it was for real. The announcement of an alternative premier skin as Black Lightning, however, has been meet met with wide praise, approval, though the court's still out on whether Raiden himself is has been RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap or not.
17th Sep '17 10:58:03 PM number9robotic
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** NRS has confirmed that there will be no microtransactions for purchasing gear, assuaging some fears about the gear system. Later, microtransactions were confirmed, but only for cosmetic enhancements.



** Mr. Freeze's costume design was criticized for lacking the helmet iconic to the character, especially since most incarnations require it to survive. The helmet was patched in afterwards in response.
** The patch released alongside Black Manta allows for the Grid premier skin to be unlocked through gameplay, instead of being forced to download and connect to the mobile game.
** People who derided Raiden for being a second MK GuestFighter after Sub-Zero did a 180 with the reveal of Black Lightning as a Premier Skin for him in the former's reveal trailer.



** Raiden, who was confirmed as a DLC character in Fighter Pack 2. While many were fine with Sub-Zero as a token ''Mortal Kombat'' guest, many of those same people felt like having a second guest was going too far in a series meant to be focused on DC characters. He was already wildly contentious when he was teased, highly suggesting his inclusion (a clash exchange between Joker and Black Adam, and his very distinct teaser silhouette), and many players were hoping were just an EasterEgg and a fake-out, respectively. Come his official confirmation, the fanbase is now up in arms, either saying he might have potential given how surprisingly well-received Sub-Zero was after his release, or decrying him for being a wasted pick nobody asked for.

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** Raiden, who was confirmed as a DLC character in Fighter Pack 2. While many were fine with Sub-Zero as a token ''Mortal Kombat'' guest, many of those same people felt like having a second guest was going too far in a series meant to be focused on DC characters. He was already wildly contentious when he was teased, highly suggesting his inclusion (a clash exchange between Joker and Black Adam, and his very distinct teaser silhouette), and many players were hoping were just an EasterEgg and a fake-out, respectively. Come his official confirmation, While some of the fanbase is now up in arms, either saying he might have potential given how surprisingly well-received Sub-Zero tension was after his release, or decrying swayed with the reveal he would come with a premier skin to play as Black Lightning instead, some fans still decry him for being a wasted pick nobody asked was really asking for.



*** Fighter Pack 2 hasn't been any less contentious, as two of the three new heroes -- Black Manta and Raiden -- were already pretty much guaranteed, the latter of which [[InternetBackdraft has already experienced a ton of heat and backlash]] ''before'' he was announced. While Hellboy is considered the best of them, there's also a lot of division towards [[NonStandardCharacterDesign his more stylized, less realistic appearance]], and just the idea of getting two of three new characters for the roster who [[GuestFighter aren't DC characters]] in a DC fighting game has already proven controversial.

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*** Fighter Pack 2 hasn't been any less contentious, as two of the three new heroes -- Black Manta and Raiden -- were already pretty much guaranteed, the latter of which [[InternetBackdraft has already experienced a ton of heat and backlash]] ''before'' he was announced. While Hellboy is considered the best of them, there's also a lot of division towards [[NonStandardCharacterDesign his more stylized, less realistic appearance]], and just the idea of getting two of three new characters for the roster who [[GuestFighter aren't DC characters]] in a DC fighting game has already proven controversial.



** While the overall game was praised for its , the roster of playable characters has gotten mixed reception. Many players are NOT happy with the various omissions from the first game. A few particular examples are the removals of Nightwing (Dick Grayson), Martian Manhunter, Hawkgirl, Shazam, Lobo, and Lex Luthor. Naturally, this means there are a number of players of the first game who end preferring it over the sequel. There are also players who like the rosters of both games, and express hope that an Injustice 3 will have the rosters of both.

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** While the overall game was praised for its , the The character roster of playable characters has gotten mixed reception. Many players are NOT happy with reception, mainly regarding the various omissions from the first game. A few particular examples are the removals of Nightwing (Dick Grayson), Martian Manhunter, Hawkgirl, Shazam, Lobo, and Lex Luthor. Naturally, this means there are a number of players of the first game who end preferring it over the sequel. There are also players who like the rosters of both games, and express hope that an Injustice 3 will have the rosters of both.



** Black Manta has only been seen for all of five seconds in the first gameplay trailer, but he's already grabbed a massive amount of attention. This was only enhanced once it was revealed he's only part of a stage transition, with many fans disappointed that he isn't playable. However, the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB6BHtwigEA first DLC Fighter Pack]] shows Black Manta's silhouette at the end, which eventually got confirmed for Fighter Pack 2.

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** Initially, Black Manta has was only been seen for all part of five seconds in the first gameplay trailer, a stage transition, but he's he already grabbed a massive amount of attention. This was only enhanced once it was revealed he's only part of a stage transition, attention, with many fans disappointed that he isn't wasn't playable. However, the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB6BHtwigEA first DLC Fighter Pack]] shows Black Manta's silhouette at the end, which eventually got His resulting popularity is likely a contributing factor to him being confirmed for Fighter Pack 2.



*** This problem has gotten even worse with newer characters and premiere skins following an [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9317_video_game_voice_actor_strike ongoing VA strike]] that's preventing most of the game's voice actors from returning to their roles. As a result, characters with new voices have to interact with voice clips for other dialogues, and the clunkiness and recycling has gotten even more glaring.

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*** This problem has gotten even worse with newer characters and premiere premier skins following an [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9317_video_game_voice_actor_strike ongoing VA strike]] that's preventing most of the game's voice actors from returning to their roles. As a result, characters with new voices have to interact with voice clips for other dialogues, and the clunkiness and recycling has gotten even more glaring.



** [[VideoGame/MortalKombat Raiden]]. He's easily disliked by nearly every one of the ''Injustice'' fanbase just for being another ''Mortal Kombat'' character taking up a DLC slot in what is supposed to be a DC fighter. While many could tolerate Sub-Zero as the token MK guest, it's widely agreed that Boon took it too far by having Raiden as another MK guest. When he was teased during the first fighter pack, people hoped, no ''prayed'', that it was just Boon being a troll, only to realize in horror that it was for real.

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** [[VideoGame/MortalKombat Raiden]]. He's easily disliked by nearly every one of the ''Injustice'' fanbase just for being another ''Mortal Kombat'' character taking up a DLC slot in what is supposed to be a DC fighter. While many could tolerate Sub-Zero as the token MK guest, it's widely agreed that Boon took it too far by having Raiden as another MK guest. When he was teased during the first fighter pack, people hoped, no ''prayed'', hoped that it was just Boon being a troll, only to realize in horror that it was for real.real. The announcement of an alternative premier skin as Black Lightning, however, has been meet with wide praise, though the court's still out on whether Raiden himself is RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap or not.


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** NRS has confirmed that there will be no microtransactions for purchasing gear, assuaging some fears about the gear system. Later, microtransactions were confirmed, but only for cosmetic enhancements.
** Mr. Freeze's costume design was criticized for lacking the helmet iconic to the character, especially since most incarnations require it to survive. The helmet was patched in afterwards in response.
** The patch released alongside Black Manta allows for the Grid premier skin to be unlocked through gameplay, instead of being forced to download and connect to the mobile game.
** Almost everyone who derided Raiden for being a second ''Franchise/MortalKombat'' GuestFighter after Sub-Zero did a 180 with the reveal of the much-demanded Black Lightning being a Premier Skin for him, assuaging most complaints of him being a wasted character slot. Even Raiden himself won some fans over after his gameplay was seen in action, including an absolutely ''awesome'' super move.
17th Sep '17 8:29:56 PM TheNerevarine
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** Black Lightning appearing in the middle of Raiden's debut trailer was also this due to no DLC Guest character beforehand having a premier skin.
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