History YMMV / ISpitOnYourGrave

1st Nov '17 6:11:27 AM cluosborne
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** Which naturally leads to Matthew: [[spoiler: did his own guilt lead to him to kill his "friends"? Bolt mentions that the Louisiana authorities ruled their deaths a murder-suicide, but there should have been a lot of evidence to the contrary. Also, Jennifer kidnapped Chastity. At the very least, there should have been a warrant out for her arrest. All that's ever said is that Jennifer was someone they wanted to talk to, not arrest or detain. It may be that during the investigation the authorities uncovered evidence of the truth and wanted to question Jennifer about it but couldn't find her.]]

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** Which naturally leads to Matthew: [[spoiler: did his own guilt lead to him to snap and kill his "friends"? Bolt Bolton mentions that the Louisiana authorities ruled their deaths a murder-suicide, but there should have been a lot of evidence to the contrary. Also, Jennifer kidnapped Chastity. At the very least, there should have been a warrant out for her arrest. All that's ever said is that Jennifer was someone they wanted to talk to, not arrest or detain. It may be that during the investigation the authorities uncovered evidence of the truth and wanted to question Jennifer about it but couldn't find her.]]
1st Nov '17 6:10:47 AM cluosborne
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** Which naturally leads to Matthew: [[spoiler: did his own guilt lead to him to kill his "friends" and Jennifer just happened to witness it but did nothing? Or were the police who investigated the deaths simply incompetent?]]

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** Which naturally leads to Matthew: [[spoiler: did his own guilt lead to him to kill his "friends" and "friends"? Bolt mentions that the Louisiana authorities ruled their deaths a murder-suicide, but there should have been a lot of evidence to the contrary. Also, Jennifer just happened kidnapped Chastity. At the very least, there should have been a warrant out for her arrest. All that's ever said is that Jennifer was someone they wanted to witness talk to, not arrest or detain. It may be that during the investigation the authorities uncovered evidence of the truth and wanted to question Jennifer about it but did nothing? Or were the police who investigated the deaths simply incompetent?]]couldn't find her.]]
29th Oct '17 2:03:48 PM cluosborne
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** [[spoiler: In fact, given that in the third film we see that she suffers from hallucinations, did she actually kill anyone at all? There should have been other witnesses and surveillance video at the bar where Marla's ex-boyfriend was and at the storefront where she picked up the step-father. The only two confirmed times she actually tries to kill someone, the police are there. So, was she fantasizing about killing the men in the films and someone else (Matthew, Oscar) did it? If so, then Oscar killing himself after learning about Jennifer wasn't to protect her, but a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment that leads him to confess and kill himself to stop her from going down the same road.]]

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** [[spoiler: In fact, given that in the third film we see that she suffers from hallucinations, did she actually kill anyone at all? There should have been other witnesses and surveillance video at the bar where Marla's ex-boyfriend was and at the storefront where she picked up the step-father. The only two confirmed times she actually tries to kill someone, she was easily overpowered and the police are were there. So, was she fantasizing about killing the men in the films and someone else (Matthew, Oscar) did it? If so, then Oscar killing himself after learning about Jennifer wasn't to protect her, but a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment that leads him to confess and kill himself to stop her from going down the same road.]]
29th Oct '17 2:02:35 PM cluosborne
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** Which naturally leads to Matthew: [[spoiler: did his own guilt lead to him to kill his "friends" and Jennifer just happened to witness it but did nothing? Or were the police who investigated the deaths simply incompetent?]]
29th Oct '17 2:00:47 PM cluosborne
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** Jennifer: [[spoiler: By the end of the third film, it's pretty clear that she has become mentally unstable. But that last night she snuck out and got caught. She knew she was being watched by the police, yet she was wearing a clearly visible red dress and tried to kill at least two more people, one of them in front of a Detective no less. Did she really go insane that night or was it a deliberate ploy to allow her to plead insanity and dodge any serious punishment? Or was it attempted suicide by cop?]]

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** Jennifer: [[spoiler: Jennifer:
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By the end of the third film, it's pretty clear that she has become mentally unstable. But that last night she snuck out and got caught. She knew she was being watched by the police, yet she was wearing a clearly visible red dress and tried to kill at least two more people, one of them in front of a Detective no less. Did she really go insane that night or was it a deliberate ploy to allow her to plead insanity and dodge any serious punishment? Or was it attempted suicide by cop?]]cop?]]
**[[spoiler: In fact, given that in the third film we see that she suffers from hallucinations, did she actually kill anyone at all? There should have been other witnesses and surveillance video at the bar where Marla's ex-boyfriend was and at the storefront where she picked up the step-father. The only two confirmed times she actually tries to kill someone, the police are there. So, was she fantasizing about killing the men in the films and someone else (Matthew, Oscar) did it? If so, then Oscar killing himself after learning about Jennifer wasn't to protect her, but a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment that leads him to confess and kill himself to stop her from going down the same road.]]
26th Oct '17 9:59:42 AM cluosborne
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** Jennifer: [[spoiler: By the end of the third film, it's pretty clear that she has become mentally unstable. But that last night she snuck out and got caught. She knew she was being watched by the police, yet she was wearing a clearly visible red dress and tried to kill at least two more people, one of them in front of a Detective no less. Did she really go insane that night or was it a deliberate ploy to allow her to plead insanity and dodge any serious punishment?]]

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** Jennifer: [[spoiler: By the end of the third film, it's pretty clear that she has become mentally unstable. But that last night she snuck out and got caught. She knew she was being watched by the police, yet she was wearing a clearly visible red dress and tried to kill at least two more people, one of them in front of a Detective no less. Did she really go insane that night or was it a deliberate ploy to allow her to plead insanity and dodge any serious punishment?]]punishment? Or was it attempted suicide by cop?]]
26th Oct '17 9:58:40 AM cluosborne
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26th Oct '17 9:58:12 AM cluosborne
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** Jennifer: [[spoiler: By the end of the third film, it's pretty clear that she has become mentally unstable. But that last night she snuck out and got caught. She knew she was being watched by the police, yet she was wearing a clearly visible red dress and tried to kill at least two more people, one of them in front of a Detective no less. Did she really go insane that night or was it a deliberate ploy to allow her to plead insanity and dodge any serious punishment?]]
16th Oct '17 4:30:43 PM cluosborne
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** It's averted in the second film. Katie's antagonists are [[spoiler: human traffickers who lure women in with free modelling photo shoots (which is TruthInTelevision) and her ordeal. Plus we do see Katie's escape and physical recovery.]] Somewhat played straight in that one of the antagonists [[spoiler: was a sex slave herself and the other is a PsychopathicManChild who was attracted to Katie.]] It doesn't excuse the hell they put her through. Also, unlike Jennifer, [[spoiler: Katie had two people in her corner that tried (and succeeded somewhat) to help her. This display of humanity probably makes her more of a shade of gray than Jennifer.]]
** It's little better in the third film. When we catch up with Jennifer, she is no longer an author, has changed her name and moved to a new city. She is plagued by nightmares, flashbacks and later on hallucinations. [[spoiler: After becoming friends with a fellow survivor who is later murdered, things get even worse.]] Some of her victims she goes after range from being an AssholeVictim to innocent. [[spoiler: It gets so bad that by the end of the film, she has gotten beaten up, sexually assaulted, lost another friend (who killed himself while taking the blame for the murders she committed), slipped into insanity, got shot while trying to kill yet another AssholeVictim, and served two years in prison with no signs that she even wants to get better. Basically, it was RealityEnsues after getting revenge in the remake.]]

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** It's averted in the second film. Katie's antagonists are [[spoiler: human traffickers who lure women in with free modelling photo shoots (which is TruthInTelevision) and TruthInTelevision). We see her ordeal. entire ordeal throughout the first half of the film. Plus we do see Katie's escape and physical recovery.]] Somewhat played straight in that one of the antagonists [[spoiler: was a sex slave herself and the other is a PsychopathicManChild who was attracted to Katie.]] It doesn't excuse the hell they put her through. Also, unlike Jennifer, [[spoiler: Katie had two people in her corner that tried to help her (and succeeded somewhat) to help her.somewhat). This display of humanity probably makes her more of a shade of gray than Jennifer.]]
** It's little better in the third film.film however. When we catch up with Jennifer, she is no longer an author, has changed her name and moved to a new city. She is plagued by nightmares, flashbacks and later on hallucinations. [[spoiler: After becoming friends with a fellow survivor who is later murdered, things get even worse.]] Some of her victims she goes after range from being an AssholeVictim to innocent. [[spoiler: It gets so bad that by the end of the film, she has gotten beaten up, sexually assaulted, lost another friend (who killed himself while taking the blame for the murders she committed), slipped into insanity, got shot while trying to kill yet another AssholeVictim, and served two years in prison with no signs that she even wants to get better. Basically, it was RealityEnsues after getting revenge in the remake.]]
24th Jul '17 3:56:08 AM TheJayman49
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* CatharsisFactor: A non-videogame example, and the reason the original film exists. The director wanted to make a feminist movie that empowered rape victims through Jennifer's rampage.

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* CatharsisFactor: A non-videogame example, and the The reason the original film exists. The director wanted to make a feminist movie that empowered rape victims through Jennifer's rampage.



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