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28th Jul '15 1:52:45 AM LahmacunKebab
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** Martin [[spoiler: On the Shrikes Tree]] with Sad King Billy.

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** Martin [[spoiler: On [[spoiler:on the Shrikes Tree]] with Sad King Billy.
23rd Apr '15 5:16:14 PM ChairmanKusem
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* HilariousInHindsight: Since Monte is revealed to be [[spoiler:[[FutureBadass future Rachel]], this means that Kassad was telling Sol about all the times he ''had sex with Sol's daughter'' in his tale.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: Since Monte Moneta is revealed to be [[spoiler:[[FutureBadass future Rachel]], this means that Kassad was telling Sol about all the times he ''had sex with Sol's daughter'' in his tale.]]
23rd Apr '15 5:05:09 PM ChairmanKusem
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*CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: The first book has quite a tender moment between all of the characters near the end. Each of them resolving to face the Shrike together.
**In the second book, the ending is even more heartwarming. And more than a little bit of a [[TearJerker tear jerker.]]



* HilariousInHindsight: Since Moneta is revealed to be [[spoiler:[[FutureBadass future Rachel]], this means that Kassad was telling Sol about all the times he ''had sex with Sol's daughter'' in his tale.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: Since Moneta Monte is revealed to be [[spoiler:[[FutureBadass future Rachel]], this means that Kassad was telling Sol about all the times he ''had sex with Sol's daughter'' in his tale.]]



* SesquipedalianLoquaciousness: Aenea's aforementioned lectures. The author draws heavily on the terminology of several sophisticated real-life philosophies and religions to present simplistic hippie nonsense as deep philosophy.

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* SesquipedalianLoquaciousness: Aenea's aforementioned lectures. The author draws heavily on the terminology of several sophisticated real-life philosophies and religions to present simplistic hippie nonsense as deep philosophy.


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** Martin [[spoiler: On the Shrikes Tree]] with Sad King Billy.
--->''"My Lord, I'm sorry."''
** [[spoiler: Kassad's DyingMomentOfAwesome in battle with the Shrike]]
18th Mar '14 8:18:52 AM Ecclytennysmithylove
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* NightmareFuel:
** The Shrike itself
** The Archangel ships
** The tale of Father Hoyt/Father Duré
** The Shrike's Tree of Thorns, with its thousands of impaled humans being kept alive and conscious indefinitely. [[spoiler:The fact that it's just a massive simulation and the victims are being kept under and alive via IV drip somehow makes it ''worse''.]]
17th Mar '14 6:30:29 PM Ecclytennysmithylove
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Martin Silenus's story.
** Really, anytime the story focuses on him.
*** [[spoiler: Except when he's on the Shrike's tree.]]
17th Mar '14 6:29:45 PM Ecclytennysmithylove
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Colonel Kassad lives and breathes this. [[spoiler: Single combat with the Shrike.]]
** The one Raul Endymion gets in the 4th book. [[spoiler: Single combat with Nemes - a creature nearly as powerful as the Shrike. And he won!]] And Raul didn't even have nifty future armor.
31st Aug '13 3:05:04 PM Korodzik
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* TearJerker: Sol Weintraub's story, definitely. [[spoiler: Aenea's death as well.]]
** Merin's conversation with the dolphins
--->Dolphin: [[spoiler:''Miss Shark/Miss Shark/Miss Shark/Miss Shark/Shark/Shark/Shark'']]

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* TearJerker: Sol Weintraub's story, definitely.
** Merin's conversation with the dolphins.
--->Dolphin: ''Miss Shark/Miss Shark/Miss Shark/Miss Shark/Shark/Shark/Shark'' (It's "miss" as in "pine for", not "madame".)
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[[spoiler: Aenea's death as well.]]
** Merin's conversation with the dolphins
--->Dolphin: [[spoiler:''Miss Shark/Miss Shark/Miss Shark/Miss Shark/Shark/Shark/Shark'']]
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31st Aug '13 3:03:31 PM Korodzik
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* {{Fauxlosophic Narration}}: "The Void which Binds", etc. Aenea's "philosophical" lectures basically amount to this.
* NightmareFuel: The Shrike's Tree of Thorns, with its thousands of impaled humans being kept alive and conscious indefinitely. [[spoiler:The fact that it's just a massive simulation and the victims are being kept under and alive via IV drip somehow makes it ''worse''.]]
* {{Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness}}: Aenea's aforementioned lectures. The author draws heavily on the terminology of several sophisticated real-life philosophies and religions to present simplistic hippie nonsense as deep philosophy.

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* {{Fauxlosophic Narration}}: BadassDecay: [[spoiler:The limits of the Shrike's power are explored in the second duology, where it faces creatures nearly as powerful as itself.]]
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Colonel Kassad lives and breathes this. [[spoiler: Single combat with the Shrike.]]
** The one Raul Endymion gets in the 4th book. [[spoiler: Single combat with Nemes - a creature nearly as powerful as the Shrike. And he won!]] And Raul didn't even have nifty future armor.
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Martin Silenus's story.
** Really, anytime the story focuses on him.
*** [[spoiler: Except when he's on the Shrike's tree.]]
* EvenBetterSequel: The 3 other books in the ''Hyperion'' quadtrilogy - ''Fall of Hyperion'', ''Endymion'', and ''The Rise of Endymion'' are regarded by some readers as even better than the original novel. On the other hand, some consider the second pair to be substantially inferior to the [[FirstInstallmentWins first two]]. The überseries is really two two-part series, with the first dealing with a mystery and a large and diverse cast in a hyperfuture somewhere between cyberpunk and post-scarcity and the second dealing with the fairly direct exposition of that mystery, a much smaller cast, an obsessive focus on a romance (you'll never read the words 'My love' so often) and a setting most readers will probably find regressive from that from the first two novels, albeit with some interesting nightmare fuel technologies of its own. YMMV, but the two series are so different that it's unlikely any given reader will like both equally.
* FauxlosophicNarration:
"The Void which Binds", etc. Aenea's "philosophical" lectures basically amount to this.
* NightmareFuel: GeniusBonus: The series is littered with literary references, from overt to subtle.
* HilariousInHindsight: Since Moneta is revealed to be [[spoiler:[[FutureBadass future Rachel]], this means that Kassad was telling Sol about all the times he ''had sex with Sol's daughter'' in his tale.]]
* NightmareFuel:
** The Shrike itself
** The Archangel ships
** The tale of Father Hoyt/Father Duré
**
The Shrike's Tree of Thorns, with its thousands of impaled humans being kept alive and conscious indefinitely. [[spoiler:The fact that it's just a massive simulation and the victims are being kept under and alive via IV drip somehow makes it ''worse''.]]
* {{Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness}}: SciFiGhetto: The whole series is based on poems by Creator/JohnKeats. It's still genre fiction, though.
* SesquipedalianLoquaciousness:
Aenea's aforementioned lectures. The author draws heavily on the terminology of several sophisticated real-life philosophies and religions to present simplistic hippie nonsense as deep philosophy.philosophy.
* TearJerker: Sol Weintraub's story, definitely. [[spoiler: Aenea's death as well.]]
** Merin's conversation with the dolphins
--->Dolphin: [[spoiler:''Miss Shark/Miss Shark/Miss Shark/Miss Shark/Shark/Shark/Shark'']]
** The last 50 pages of ''The Rise of Endymion'' count too, but then the tears are mainly tears of happiness.
15th May '13 10:51:41 PM Doryna
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* NightmareFuel: The Shrike's Tree of Thorns, with its thousands of impaled humans being kept alive and conscious indefinitely. [[spoiler:The fact that it's just a massive simulation and the victims are being kept under and alive via IV drip somehow makes it ''worse''.]]
11th Mar '13 7:37:25 AM Maitreya
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* {{Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness}}: Aenea's aforementioned lectures. The author draws heavily on the terminology of several sophisticated real-life philosophers to present simplistic hippie nonsense as deep philosophy.

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* {{Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness}}: Aenea's aforementioned lectures. The author draws heavily on the terminology of several sophisticated real-life philosophers philosophies and religions to present simplistic hippie nonsense as deep philosophy.
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