History YMMV / HowIMetYourMother

1st Jun '16 2:59:27 PM Daniel1559
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** Ted and Robin's relationship is either a genuinely romantic relationship that was brought apart less due to fundamental differences between them and more due to Ted and Robin wanting different things, and as such could [[spoiler: happily get back together when the things keeping them apart was no longer there]], or a completely incompatible relationship based on fundamental differences demonstrated throughout the series [[spoiler: that shouldn't have gotten back together in the finale at the expense of more popular and compatible relationships such as Barney and Robin as well as Ted and Tracy]].
31st May '16 2:20:29 AM That897Guy
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** Transwomen, seeing as the old "women who used to be men/have penises are gross" joke comes up several times.
30th May '16 8:45:41 PM Angeldeb82
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* AwesomeMusic: [[AwesomeMusic/HowIMetYourMother Has a sub-page]].

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** The Mother. Some fans love her and think it was worth waiting 8 seasons to finally meet her, other fans think that she's an obnoxiously perfect MarySue / RelationshipSue.

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** The Mother. Some fans love her and think it was worth waiting 8 seasons to finally meet her, other fans think that she's an obnoxiously perfect MarySue Mary Sue / RelationshipSue.Relationship Sue.



** With all the [[ContinuityNod Continuity Nods]], [[CallBack Call Backs]], [[BrickJoke Brick Jokes]], and [[RunningGag Running Gags]], it's a lot easier to appreciate them, and by extension the show, when you watch the episodes in close succession.

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** With all the [[ContinuityNod Continuity Nods]], [[CallBack Call Backs]], [[BrickJoke Brick Jokes]], {{Continuity Nod}}s, {{Call Back}}s, {{Brick Joke}}s, and [[RunningGag Running Gags]], {{Running Gag}}s, it's a lot easier to appreciate them, and by extension the show, when you watch the episodes in close succession.



** Barney's [[spoiler:"The Robin" play]]: while most fans saw it as this great romantic--albeit manipulative and underhanded--scheme and a major CrowningMomentOfAwesome for all of season 8, some fans… were less than thrilled, feeling that Barney had crossed the line.

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** Barney's [[spoiler:"The Robin" play]]: while most fans saw it as this great romantic--albeit manipulative and underhanded--scheme and a major CrowningMomentOfAwesome SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome for all of season 8, some fans… were less than thrilled, feeling that Barney had crossed the line.



*** The fact that the [=DVD=] releases feature an alternate ending to the series. Whilst some fans are pleased about this, there are others saying it's too late for Bays and Thomas to try and WinBackTheCrowd since they've already decided the show's canon ending, others accusing it of just being pandering to sell [=DVDs=] and get people to watch, those who liked it say the creators should stick to their original ending. And the new ending, despite being well recieved, has created its own break, between those willing to now cut the creators some slack, and those mad this ending wasn't just used in the first place… and there are those who actually liked the original ending and consider the new one to be a sugar coated happy ending made just to please those who hated the original ending. The question of whether the finale managed to provide [[spoiler: enough closure to Barney and Robin's divorce, or is simply too vague to infer anything is another major point of contention.]]

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*** The fact that the [=DVD=] releases feature an alternate ending to the series. Whilst some fans are pleased about this, there are others saying it's too late for Bays and Thomas to try and WinBackTheCrowd since they've already decided the show's canon ending, others accusing it of just being pandering to sell [=DVDs=] and get people to watch, those who liked it say the creators should stick to their original ending. And the new ending, despite being well recieved, received, has created its own break, between those willing to now cut the creators some slack, and those mad this ending wasn't just used in the first place… and there are those who actually liked the original ending and consider the new one to be a sugar coated happy ending made just to please those who hated the original ending. The question of whether the finale managed to provide [[spoiler: enough closure to Barney and Robin's divorce, or is simply too vague to infer anything is another major point of contention.]]



** A [[CrossoverShip Crossover]] Cargo Ship paired Lily with [[Film/AmericanPie flutes]].

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** A [[CrossoverShip Crossover]] {{Crossover|Ship}} Cargo Ship paired Lily with [[Film/AmericanPie flutes]].



** In ''Sorry, Bro'' when Lily finds out Ted is getting back together (''again'') with the pretentious, cheating beeyotch he dated in college: "Ted, honey, go outside and [[CurbStompBattle bite the curb]], I'll be out in a minute…" Hahaha, oh, Lily--[[AmericanHistoryX wait…]]

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** In ''Sorry, Bro'' when Lily finds out Ted is getting back together (''again'') with the pretentious, cheating beeyotch he dated in college: "Ted, honey, go outside and [[CurbStompBattle bite the curb]], I'll be out in a minute…" minute..." Hahaha, oh, Lily--[[AmericanHistoryX wait…]]



** Nora is quite the [[EnsembleDarkhorse popular character…]] except with militant Barney/Robin shippers who were enraged that she was his first serious girlfriend [[ShipSinking after their breakup.]]

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** Nora is quite the [[EnsembleDarkhorse popular character…]] character...]] except with militant Barney/Robin shippers who were enraged that she was his first serious girlfriend [[ShipSinking after their breakup.]]breakup]].



** "Come on Jessica, come on Tori, let's go to the mall, you won't be sor-ey…"
** "Two beavers are better than one…"
** "Nothing suits me like… a… suuuuuuit!"

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** "Come on Jessica, come on Tori, let's go to the mall, you won't be sor-ey…"
sor-ey..."
** "Two beavers are better than one…"
one..."
** "Nothing suits me like… a… like... a... suuuuuuit!"



** "Cat funeral… (meow meow meow)… cat funeral…"

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** "Cat funeral… funeral... (meow meow meow)… meow)... cat funeral…"funeral..."



** "You just got slapped… across the face my friend!"

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** "You just got slapped… slapped... across the face my friend!"



** Cristin Milioti as the Mother. While reaction to Season 9 from fans and critics alike [[BrokenBase were mixed]], the praise for Milioti was pretty close to universal. Even people who accused the character of being a MarySue usually thought her acting was spot on. This is helped by "How Your Mother Met Me", an episode that the creators used [[DayInTheLimelight to tie the mother into the show's mythology]], basically explaining what she had been doing over the show's 8 years.
** Despite the finale having [[BrokenBase mixed reactions]], most people liked the old lady Ted sat next to at the train station [[ShipperOnDeck who got excited about Ted meeting The Mother.]]

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** Cristin Milioti as the Mother. While reaction to Season 9 from fans and critics alike [[BrokenBase were mixed]], the praise for Milioti was pretty close to universal. Even people who accused the character of being a MarySue usually thought her acting was spot on. This is helped by "How Your Mother Met Me", an episode that the creators used [[DayInTheLimelight [[ADayInTheLimelight to tie the mother into the show's mythology]], basically explaining what she had been doing over the show's 8 years.
** Despite the finale having [[BrokenBase mixed reactions]], most people liked the old lady Ted sat next to at the train station [[ShipperOnDeck who got excited about Ted meeting The Mother.]]Mother]].



** There were also some arguments that the mother is dead/died recently, and Ted is telling his kids the story of how they met to help cope with the grief of losing her. [[spoiler: The ending to "Vesuvius" pointed in that direction and it ended true in the series finale]].
** A pretty accepted in-universe explanation to why in the finale Future!Ted doesn't have BobSaget's voice is that, up until then, the audience was literally inside Ted's mind while he was narrating the story, so Saget's voice is how [[DoIReallySoundLikeThat Ted perceives his own voice]]. However, in the finale, the audiences POV finally leaves Ted's mind, so we get to listen to it as it actually is.

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** There were also some arguments that the mother is dead/died recently, and Ted is telling his kids the story of how they met to help cope with the grief of losing her. [[spoiler: The ending to "Vesuvius" pointed in that direction and it ended true in the series finale]].
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** A pretty accepted in-universe explanation to why in the finale Future!Ted doesn't have BobSaget's Creator/BobSaget's voice is that, up until then, the audience was literally inside Ted's mind while he was narrating the story, so Saget's voice is how [[DoIReallySoundLikeThat Ted perceives his own voice]]. However, in the finale, the audiences POV finally leaves Ted's mind, so we get to listen to it as it actually is.



** In "Bad Crazy" it's said that if a woman is acting crazy, the fault lies with the man that she's dating. This is one of the show's only examples of TheUnfairSex. Specifically, Robin accuses Ted of being responsible for Jeannette's insane behavior because he's been sending mixed signals to her… despite the fact that Jeannette stalked Ted for over a year and even started a fire so that she could meet him. The woman was obviously crazy long before she and Ted ever started dating.

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** In "Bad Crazy" it's said that if a woman is acting crazy, the fault lies with the man that she's dating. This is one of the show's only examples of TheUnfairSex. Specifically, Robin accuses Ted of being responsible for Jeannette's insane behavior because he's been sending mixed signals to her… her... despite the fact that Jeannette stalked Ted for over a year and even started a fire so that she could meet him. The woman was obviously crazy long before she and Ted ever started dating.



** From reactions to the series finale, most people have completely disregarded the final five minutes [[spoiler: and instead prefer to end it at the scene where Ted meets Tracy at the train station]]. Some fans have even gone so far as to disregard both of the finale episodes [[spoiler:so that Barney and Robin never get divorced, and Ted lives happily ever after with Tracy (the Mother) rather than her dying.]] The official alternate ending makes this much easier for fans who [[spoiler: wanted Ted and Tracy to live HappilyEverAfter]], though some fans still have to deal with [[spoiler: Barney and Robin getting divorced. Though to be fair, Future Ted's quote of things falling apart and being put back together that is said when we see Barney and Robin smile during his wedding with Tracy has been interpreted as them getting back together.]]

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** From reactions to the series finale, most people have completely disregarded the final five minutes [[spoiler: and instead prefer to end it at the scene where Ted meets Tracy at the train station]]. Some fans have even gone so far as to disregard both of the finale episodes [[spoiler:so that Barney and Robin never get divorced, and Ted lives happily ever after with Tracy (the Mother) rather than her dying.]] dying]]. The official alternate ending makes this much easier for fans who [[spoiler: wanted Ted and Tracy to live HappilyEverAfter]], though some fans still have to deal with [[spoiler: Barney and Robin getting divorced. Though to be fair, Future Ted's quote of things falling apart and being put back together that is said when we see Barney and Robin smile during his wedding with Tracy has been interpreted as them getting back together.]]



** A season 1 episode has Barney courting a bridesmaid, his excuse for never seeing her again being that in the morning he's shipping out with the Peace Corps for two years. We find out mere episodes later that [[spoiler:his StartOfDarkness was getting stood up by his girlfriend the day they were supposed to ship out with the Peace Corps together for two years.]]

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** A season 1 episode has Barney courting a bridesmaid, his excuse for never seeing her again being that in the morning he's shipping out with the Peace Corps for two years. We find out mere episodes later that [[spoiler:his StartOfDarkness was getting stood up by his girlfriend the day they were supposed to ship out with the Peace Corps together for two years.]]years]].



** In season 5, during a flashback, Lily wants to take a group shot of the gang to commemorate Robin's naturalization in her scrapbook, but she doesn't want Robin and Barney--who were dating at the time--to sit next to each other and look couple-y. She exclaims, "Of course I don't [want you and Barney to look like a couple in this picture]! You two aren't going to last. I'm going for timeless here," a sentiment that Robin and Barney agree with. It's not as harsh when they break up the first time, but it is very harsh when in the series finale [[spoiler: it is revealed that after three years of marriage, they decided to divorce.]]

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** In season 5, during a flashback, Lily wants to take a group shot of the gang to commemorate Robin's naturalization in her scrapbook, but she doesn't want Robin and Barney--who were dating at the time--to sit next to each other and look couple-y. She exclaims, "Of course I don't [want you and Barney to look like a couple in this picture]! You two aren't going to last. I'm going for timeless here," a sentiment that Robin and Barney agree with. It's not as harsh when they break up the first time, but it is very harsh when in the series finale [[spoiler: it is revealed that after three years of marriage, they decided to divorce.]]divorce]].



** Not that watching a gay man play straight is hilarious, but much like his role in the [[Film/HaroldAndKumarGoToWhiteCastle Harold and Kumar]] series, the extreme ''degree'' to which Neil Patrick Harris's character womanizes was cast in a humorous, ironic light after the actor announced his homosexuality.
** Pre-infamous-Jason Segel-nudity-in-{{Forgetting Sarah Marshall}}:

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** Not that watching a gay man play straight is hilarious, but much like his role in the [[Film/HaroldAndKumarGoToWhiteCastle Harold Film/{{Harold and Kumar]] Kumar|GoToWhiteCastle}} series, the extreme ''degree'' to which Neil Patrick Harris's character womanizes was cast in a humorous, ironic light after the actor announced his homosexuality.
** Pre-infamous-Jason Segel-nudity-in-{{Forgetting Sarah Marshall}}:Segel-nudity-in-Film/ForgettingSarahMarshall:



** On season 6,"Unfinished", Barney walks in to Ted's classroom. Think of his reaction, considering [[JoshRadnor Josh Radnor's]] film from 2 years later, ''Film/LiberalArts''.
-->'''Ted''':"What are you doing here? Oh god, you’re dating one of my students. It's Rachel, isn’t it? Barney, I know she wears provocative sweaters, but she's 19!"
** In a season 5 episode, Ted tells to Barney "You can't just tack on a new ending because you're not satisfied with how a story wraps up". Considering of many [[FixFic fix fics]] had been written after the finale aired.

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** On season 6,"Unfinished", 6, "Unfinished", Barney walks in to Ted's classroom. Think of his reaction, considering [[JoshRadnor Josh Radnor's]] Creator/JoshRadnor's film from 2 years later, ''Film/LiberalArts''.
-->'''Ted''':"What -->'''Ted''': "What are you doing here? Oh god, God, you’re dating one of my students. It's Rachel, isn’t it? Barney, I know she wears provocative sweaters, but she's 19!"
** In a season 5 episode, Ted tells to Barney "You can't just tack on a new ending because you're not satisfied with how a story wraps up". Considering of many [[FixFic fix fics]] {{fix fic}}s had been written after the finale aired.



** Cobie Smulders' role in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse gets pretty ironic in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' when [[spoiler:Hawkeye is revealed to be HappilyMarried to a newly introduced character, with his popular shipping partner Black Widow being just his kids' honorary aunt. And just like this show, the fans largely supported his existing relationship once they found out about it, and this time got their wish.]]

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** Cobie Smulders' role in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse gets pretty ironic in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' when [[spoiler:Hawkeye is revealed to be HappilyMarried to a newly introduced character, with his popular shipping partner Black Widow being just his kids' honorary aunt. And just like this show, the fans largely supported his existing relationship once they found out about it, and this time got their wish.]]wish]].



** After a little talk with [[ItMakesSenseInContext ghosts Lily and his father,]] Marshall faults himself for bringing up the whole San Francisco debacle at Lily seven years after the event. His self-guilt rings hollow, however, since he had every right to bring it up when Lily claimed that she has never acted as selfish as him, and furthermore, Lily herself had proven unable to answer his question--whether he and Marvin are just consolation prize after her failure at the art school in SF. The later episode "Daisy" paints Marshall not only wrong for questioning Lily's devotion to their family, but [[spoiler:also wrong about staying in NYC and becoming a judge, as he quickly changes his opinion and they wind up spending the year in Italy after finding out she's pregnant again--something that reinforces every reason Marshall had given to stay in New York]].

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** After a little talk with [[ItMakesSenseInContext ghosts Lily and his father,]] father]], Marshall faults himself for bringing up the whole San Francisco debacle at Lily seven years after the event. His self-guilt rings hollow, however, since he had every right to bring it up when Lily claimed that she has never acted as selfish as him, and furthermore, Lily herself had proven unable to answer his question--whether he and Marvin are just consolation prize after her failure at the art school in SF. The later episode "Daisy" paints Marshall not only wrong for questioning Lily's devotion to their family, but [[spoiler:also wrong about staying in NYC and becoming a judge, as he quickly changes his opinion and they wind up spending the year in Italy after finding out she's pregnant again--something that reinforces every reason Marshall had given to stay in New York]].



* MarySue:
** The Mother. Every time she appears she tends to be almost impossibly nice and perfect, in every first meeting with the main cast she ends up helping them through some current dilemma they are facing. The most significant one being that she could see straight through Barney's antics and [[spoiler: inspired him to write "The Robin" play]]. Also a RelationshipSue, a SympatheticSue and a PuritySue. Some additional flaws ''are'' added as she is seen more and more, but they are along the lines of "struggles with confrontation" and taking years to [[spoiler: move on after a beloved boyfriend died in an accident]].
*** From a more in-universe point of view, it makes sense that she's portrayed that way, considering future Ted is narrating the story. He's been constantly idealizing her throughout the whole series. Why stop at the moment she actually enters the scene?
*** Adding to this, the fact that she is later revealed to [[spoiler:[[DeadAllAlong have been dead for six years]]]], it makes even more sense that Ted would idealize her. And even more so when you consider the idea that [[spoiler:the whole story is just his way to butter up the kids so that they'd be supportive of his pursuing a relationship with Robin; he's making sure they know he holds their mother in high regard so they don't feel like he's trying to [[ReplacementGoldfish replace her]]]]!
** Those who disliked Nora in seasons 6 and 7 felt like she was this. This is even lampshaded by a jealous Robin in "Noretta."



** Mosbius Designs has failed… (Classic Schmosby)

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** Mosbius Designs has failed… failed... (Classic Schmosby)



** Legen--wait for it…--dary

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** Legen--wait for it…--dary it...--dary



** In the season 9 episode "Sunrise" [[spoiler:the episode ends with Robin floating away like a balloon while "Eternal Flame" plays, symbolizing the fact that Ted has let her go. Although it was meant to be a touching scene, many fans found it unintentionally funny. One Reddit user joked "[[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Robin has to go now. Her planet needs her]]" while another said [[CaughtUpInTheRapture "Robin got raptured!"]]. There was even a Tumblr user who asked "[[http://crazy56u.tumblr.com/post/75539294040/um-is-ted-tripping-balls Um… is Ted tripping balls?]]"]]

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** In the season 9 episode "Sunrise" [[spoiler:the episode ends with Robin floating away like a balloon while "Eternal Flame" plays, symbolizing the fact that Ted has let her go. Although it was meant to be a touching scene, many fans found it unintentionally funny. One Reddit user joked "[[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Robin has to go now. Her planet needs her]]" while another said [[CaughtUpInTheRapture "Robin got raptured!"]]. raptured!"]] There was even a Tumblr user who asked "[[http://crazy56u.tumblr.com/post/75539294040/um-is-ted-tripping-balls Um… is Ted tripping balls?]]"]]



--> '''Marshall:''' Deep in the Amazon rainforest, there is a tree that only grows around the body of an existing tree. It cannot survive without this tree; it's supported by this tree. Lily, we are that tree… we grew around Ted and without him we're slowly dying!

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--> '''Marshall:''' Deep in the Amazon rainforest, there is a tree that only grows around the body of an existing tree. It cannot survive without this tree; it's supported by this tree. Lily, we are that tree… tree... we grew around Ted and without him we're slowly dying!



* RelationshipSue: Pretty much by necessity, the mother. Ted's gone through so many women and pretty much the first thing known about the mother is that she's not only a good person, but specifically the perfect person for Ted. The 200th episode also reveals her being [[spoiler: a CelibateHeroine for ''years'', grieving after her (perfect) first love's death, then later settling for a (perfect) RomanticFalseLead for some time.]] While it can be viewed as an explanation why she hadn't got married much earlier ([[MarySue since almost anybody would want her]]), it also looks suspiciously like her dating only [[spoiler:two]] men in life is set to be ''perfect'' and played for MyGirlIsNotASlut appeal (instead of, say, sleeping around, like Ted did).



** Looking back at the series, there are actually a lot of things that foreshadowed the eventual twist ending the writers had in mind. [[spoiler: Ted asks Robin to be his back-up wife, Barney suggests having Robin until she's 40 and then Ted can have her, Marshall's fantasy described above…]]
* RomanticPlotTumor: The series suffered from this greatly. The series started out with Ted focusing on trying to get together with Robin, succeeding by the end of season one, and then them breaking up at the end of season two. Not so bad yet, namely since that at that point it was treated as a ForegoneConclusion, and we knew sooner or later, Ted would meet his real wife. But then as the show went one it continued to have Ted and/or Robin pining for the other only to repeatedly go through a lesson that they just weren't right for each other, all the way up to the final season. And then the final episode came. [[spoiler: The ship between Robin and Barney, one that a lot of fans preferred no less, was almost immediately thrown out minutes after the episode began, and much later it turned out that Ted's wife fell deathly ill six year prior to the events of the show's framing sequence. The plot tumor took over in-universe as well as it revealed that even though Ted was telling his kids the story of how he met his future wife, the fact that he focused more on Robin when he was telling the story was actually because he wanted permission from them to start dating Robin again, all so they would hook up at the last minute]]. Needless to say, a lot of people were not happy.

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** Looking back at the series, there are actually a lot of things that foreshadowed the eventual twist ending the writers had in mind. [[spoiler: Ted asks Robin to be his back-up wife, Barney suggests having Robin until she's 40 and then Ted can have her, Marshall's fantasy described above…]]
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* RomanticPlotTumor: The series suffered from this greatly. The series started out with Ted focusing on trying to get together with Robin, succeeding by the end of season one, and then them breaking up at the end of season two. Not so bad yet, namely since that at that point it was treated as a ForegoneConclusion, and we knew sooner or later, Ted would meet his real wife. But then as the show went one it continued to have Ted and/or Robin pining for the other only to repeatedly go through a lesson that they just weren't right for each other, all the way up to the final season. And then the final episode came. [[spoiler: The ship between Robin and Barney, one that a lot of fans preferred no less, was almost immediately thrown out minutes after the episode began, and much later it turned out that Ted's wife fell deathly ill six year prior to the events of the show's framing sequence. The plot tumor took over in-universe as well as it revealed that even though Ted was telling his kids the story of how he met his future wife, the fact that he focused more on Robin when he was telling the story was actually because he wanted permission from them to start dating Robin again, all so they would hook up at the last minute]]. minute.]] Needless to say, a lot of people were not happy.



** They sure do have fun teasing Barney/Lily like crazy… of course, [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt it will never happen]].

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** They sure do have fun teasing Barney/Lily like crazy… crazy... of course, [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt it will never happen]].



*** [[spoiler: Barney and Robin's BigDamnKiss.]]

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*** [[spoiler: Barney and Robin's BigDamnKiss.[[TheBigDamnKiss Big Damn Kiss]].]]



*** Lilly breaking the news to Marshall that [[spoiler:his had father died of heart attack.]]

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*** Lilly breaking the news to Marshall that [[spoiler:his had father died of heart attack.]]attack]].



*** The Mother singing "La Vi En Rose" at a hotel balcony next to Ted's room.

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*** The Mother singing "La Vi Vie En Rose" at a hotel balcony next to Ted's room.



** As the show goes on, it has been an increasingly common fan-reaction to the potential FridgeLogic / FridgeHorror that Future Ted is telling his kids about the many women that he bedded before their mother (including their [[HonoraryUncle Aunt Robin.)]]

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** As the show goes on, it has been an increasingly common fan-reaction to the potential FridgeLogic / FridgeHorror that Future Ted is telling his kids about the many women that he bedded before their mother (including their [[HonoraryUncle Aunt Robin.)]]Robin]]).



* ToughActToFollow: [[ReplacementScrappy Quinn]] was introduced to the show not long after [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorite]] Nora was written out [[ShipSinking after breaking up with Barney]]. It didn't help that her introduction involved being demeaning to Barney, and then hustling him out of his money. Compare this to Nora, who was probably [[ThrowTheDogABone the one good thing that was happening to Barney]] in a season long of [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructing]] his personality and Quinn being another obstacle in the way of [[FanPreferredCouple Barney getting back with Robin.]]

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* ToughActToFollow: [[ReplacementScrappy Quinn]] was introduced to the show not long after [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorite]] Nora was written out [[ShipSinking after breaking up with Barney]]. It didn't help that her introduction involved being demeaning to Barney, and then hustling him out of his money. Compare this to Nora, who was probably [[ThrowTheDogABone the one good thing that was happening to Barney]] in a season long of [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructing]] {{deconstructi|on}}ng his personality and Quinn being another obstacle in the way of [[FanPreferredCouple Barney getting back with Robin.]]Robin]].



** Ted's kids after the finale. To elaborate, in the pilot and a few appearances in the first and second seasons, the kids whined when Ted told them he was going to tell them how he met their mother and how long it was taking. Given how long the story ends up going on, that seems pretty understandable. But then we find out [[spoiler:their mother has been DeadAllAlong. This combined with their reaction to the end of Ted's story being "[The point of this story] is that you totally, totally have the hots for [[HonoraryUncle Aunt Robin]]" and being 100% okay with that, kind of makes them come off like [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]] who didn't care about their dead mother.]] It doesn't get any better when you realize that their final scene was filmed years in advance, meaning that the writers knew early on that [[spoiler:The Mother was dead, but still wrote lines for the kids like "Are we being punished for something?"]]
* UnpopularPopularCharacter: [[TheCasanova Barney]]. He's TheFriendNobodyLikes to an extent, with the other characters disliking him for being [[TheCasanova a womanizer]], but he is adored by the fans.

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** Ted's kids after the finale. To elaborate, in the pilot and a few appearances in the first and second seasons, the kids whined when Ted told them he was going to tell them how he met their mother and how long it was taking. Given how long the story ends up going on, that seems pretty understandable. But then we find out [[spoiler:their mother has been DeadAllAlong. This combined with their reaction to the end of Ted's story being "[The point of this story] is that you totally, totally have the hots for [[HonoraryUncle Aunt Robin]]" and being 100% okay with that, kind of makes them come off like [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]] {{Jerkass}}es who didn't care about their dead mother.]] It doesn't get any better when you realize that their final scene was filmed years in advance, meaning that the writers knew early on that [[spoiler:The Mother was dead, but still wrote lines for the kids like "Are we being punished for something?"]]
* UnpopularPopularCharacter: [[TheCasanova Barney]]. Barney.]] He's TheFriendNobodyLikes to an extent, with the other characters disliking him for being [[TheCasanova a womanizer]], but he is adored by the fans.



** Jeanette is a [[{{Yandere}} crazy]] [[StalkerWithACrush stalker]] who [[DisproportionateRetribution breaks Ted's stuff for minor offenses]], but after they break up, Ted wants her back. Although this is the general attitude in-universe as all of his friends wonder this, Future Ted admits she was a big mistake, and it ends with Jeanette setting many of his belongings on fire.

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** Jeanette is a [[{{Yandere}} crazy]] [[StalkerWithACrush stalker]] {{stalker|WithACrush}} who [[DisproportionateRetribution breaks Ted's stuff for minor offenses]], but after they break up, Ted wants her back. Although this is the general attitude in-universe as all of his friends wonder this, Future Ted admits she was a big mistake, and it ends with Jeanette setting many of his belongings on fire.
17th May '16 2:02:23 PM Berrenta
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*** Barney [[spoiler:reconnecting with his father and his WhatTheHellDad rant to him]].

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*** Barney [[spoiler:reconnecting with his father and his WhatTheHellDad rant to him]].
15th May '16 10:30:17 PM nombretomado
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** In its final season, the show earned the ire of some MarvelCinematicUniverse fans by keeping Cobie Smulders from making many appearances on the first season of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD''. Luckily, this only applied to that one year.

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** In its final season, the show earned the ire of some MarvelCinematicUniverse Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse fans by keeping Cobie Smulders from making many appearances on the first season of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD''. Luckily, this only applied to that one year.
13th May '16 12:04:58 PM Daniel1559
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*** Is Barney given a fair depiction or is Ted an UnreliableNarrator who exaggerates, embellishes and even straight-up lies about his friend's exploits? The finale implies that [[spoiler:the birth of his daughter caused Barney to forever change his ways]], which would explain to Penny and Luke why the stories Ted tells of Barney don't seem to go with the uncle they know and love. However, it is possible that [[spoiler:Barney was the post-Ellie guy all along, except he liked to party and was a flirt before he became a father]]. The reason why Ted might be lying about Barney is that [[spoiler:he wants his kids to root for Robin to choose ''him'' and not Barney.]] This can be supported by the alternate ending, which implies that [[spoiler:there is hope yet for Barney and Robin, meaning that Barney is still a possible romantic rival for Ted]].

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*** Is Barney given a fair depiction or is Ted an UnreliableNarrator who exaggerates, embellishes and even straight-up lies about his friend's exploits? The finale implies that [[spoiler:the birth of his daughter caused Barney to forever change his ways]], which would explain to Penny and Luke why the stories Ted tells of Barney don't seem to go with the uncle they know and love. However, it is possible that [[spoiler:Barney was the post-Ellie guy all along, except he liked to party and was a flirt before he became a father]]. The reason why Ted might be lying about Barney is that [[spoiler:he wants his kids to root for Robin to choose ''him'' and not Barney.]] This can be supported by the alternate ending, which implies that [[spoiler:there is hope yet for Barney and Robin, meaning that Barney is still a possible romantic rival for Ted]].Robin]].
10th May '16 10:14:52 AM fearlessnikki
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** Ted/Victoria, partially because the characters are BirdsOfAFeather and partially because [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Victoria would've been the Mother if the show didn't receive a second season]]. Interestingly, a number of people point specifically to [[spoiler:2005!Victoria, accusing 2012!Victoria of barely being the same character]]. In fact, people like them together so much that after the series finale, [[spoiler: people are writing alternate endings where The Mother still dies, but he gets together with Victoria instead of Robin.]]

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** Ted/Victoria, partially because the characters are BirdsOfAFeather and partially because [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Victoria would've been the Mother if the show didn't receive a second season]]. Interestingly, a number of people point specifically to [[spoiler:2005!Victoria, accusing 2012!Victoria of barely being the same character]]. In fact, people like them together so much that after the series finale, [[spoiler: people are writing alternate endings where The Mother still dies, but he gets together with Victoria instead of Robin.]]]] In fact, in a fan-voted poll about the most popular love interest of Ted's, Victoria got the most votes.



** Zoey who manipulated Ted, lied to him, tried to ruin his career and when [[spoiler: he said "no" to saving the Arcadian]], she revealed she kept the recording of Ted praising the Arcadian despite promising to erase it.

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** Zoey who manipulated Ted, lied to him, tried to ruin his career and when [[spoiler: he said "no" to saving the Arcadian]], she revealed she kept the recording of Ted praising the Arcadian despite promising to erase it. In a fan poll, she was the least popular of Ted's love interests. When that list includes [[AxCrazy Jeanette]] and [[RunawayBride Stella]], that's saying something.
5th May '16 3:12:34 PM Evighet
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** The slap bet. While the majority of the fans thought it was very funny at first some began to feel it overstayed its welcome. Specifically, how uncomfortable and even afraid Barney became of each slap and how Marshall (oftentimes joined by the others) took great pleasure in tormenting him. To some that made it even funnier, and was only what Barney deserved. To others it left a bad taste in their mouth and crossed the line from comedy to abuse.
5th May '16 7:02:32 AM Evighet
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*** Is Barney given a fair depiction or is Ted an UnreliableNarrator who exaggerates, embellishes and even straight-up lies about his friend's exploits? The finale implies that [[spoiler:the birth of his daughter caused Barney to forever change his ways]], which would explain to Penny and Luke why the stories Ted tells of Barney don't seem to go with the uncle they know and love. However, it is possible that [[spoiler:Barney was the post-Ellie guy all along, except he liked to party and was a flirt before he became a father]]. The reason why Ted might be lying about Barney is that [[spoiler:he wants his kids to root for Robin to choose ''him'' and not Barney.]] This can be supported by the alternate ending, which implies that [[spoiler:there is hope yet for Barney and Robin, meaning that Barney is still a possible romantic rival for Ted]].
21st Apr '16 2:23:59 PM WaxingName
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* EndingAversion: The finale caused a major split in the fandom. Some critics have compared it to the endings of ''Series/TheSopranos'' and ''Series/{{Lost}}'' which also caused a BrokenBase.

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* EndingAversion: The finale caused a major split in the fandom. Some critics have compared it to the endings of ''Series/TheSopranos'' ''Series/TheSopranos'', ''Series/{{Lost}}'', and ''Series/{{Lost}}'' even ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' which also caused a BrokenBase.
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