History YMMV / HotGimmick

16th Jul '16 3:32:48 AM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Ryoki

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%% * BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Ryoki
15th Dec '14 12:34:18 AM Scabbard
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: And ultimately, [[spoiler:she doesn't]].

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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: And ultimately, in the novel, [[spoiler:she doesn't]].
20th Nov '14 12:52:07 PM MagBas
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* UnfortunateImplications: Aihara is notorious for accidentally falling into this trap in several of her works, but this is perhaps the most infamous case. A portion of readers cite reasons ranging from dated gender roles to obvious sexism to backwards messages such as "abusive and dominating relationships are okay as long as the person in question has moments where it looks like he actually cares."
1st Nov '14 6:27:02 PM Discontent
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After the outcry when it was revealed that Hatsumi decided to [[spoiler: [[LoveMartyr stay by Ryoki's side despite his abuse]]]], a Hot Gimmick S novel was released (though not by the mangaka) soon after in which Hatsumi actually [[spoiler: thinks twice about it, breaks up with Ryoki and goes to [[FanPreferredCouple Shinogu]].]]

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After the outcry when it was revealed that Hatsumi decided to [[spoiler: [[LoveMartyr stay [[spoiler:stay by Ryoki's side despite his abuse]]]], abuse]], a Hot Gimmick S novel was released (though not by the mangaka) soon after in which Hatsumi actually [[spoiler: thinks twice about it, breaks up with Ryoki and goes to [[FanPreferredCouple Shinogu]].Shinogu.]]



* DeaderThanDisco: This was actually [[GermansLoveDavidHasslehoff fairly popular in the US when it was new]]. Now [[AmericansHateTingle it's one of the most hated shoujo manga]] ''ever''.
* DieForOurShip:
** In contrast with the below trope, not a few people would love Ryoki to drop dead...
** Though it's not always because they want him to [[DieForOurShip die for their ship.]] Sometimes, they really just want him to drop dead ''[[BastardBoyfriend because he's an asshole]]''. Even people who don't ship Hatsumi with ''any'' of the characters still think that she could find someone better than [[{{Yandere}} Ryoki]]. [[WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack Who can blame them?]]

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* DeaderThanDisco: This was actually [[GermansLoveDavidHasslehoff [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fairly popular in the US when it was new]]. Now [[AmericansHateTingle it's one of the most hated shoujo manga]] ''ever''.
* DieForOurShip:
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DieForOurShip: In contrast with the below trope, not a few people would love Ryoki to drop dead...
**
dead... Though it's not always because they want him to [[DieForOurShip die for their ship.]] Sometimes, they really just want him to drop dead ''[[BastardBoyfriend because he's an asshole]]''. Even people who don't ship Hatsumi with ''any'' of the characters still think that she could find someone better than [[{{Yandere}} Ryoki]]. [[WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack Who can blame them?]]



* EsotericHappyEnding:
** So Hatsumi [[spoiler:decides to stay with Ryoki in spite of his verbal and emotional abuse of her because she thinks that marriage will make him nicer to her?]] Azusa [[spoiler:goes back to being a vengeful bastard after learning that Ryoki's father was responsible for his mother's woes?]] Shinogu [[spoiler:abruptly decides to go off and become a monk after realizing that he'll never get Hatsumi?]] And we're supposed to believe that all ''this'' makes for a happy ending?
** The real happy ending, however, happens in AuthorsSavingThrow.

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* EsotericHappyEnding:
**
EsotericHappyEnding: So Hatsumi [[spoiler:decides to stay with Ryoki in spite of his verbal and emotional abuse of her because she thinks that marriage will make him nicer to her?]] Azusa [[spoiler:goes back to being a vengeful bastard after learning that Ryoki's father was responsible for his mother's woes?]] Shinogu [[spoiler:abruptly decides to go off and become a monk after realizing that he'll never get Hatsumi?]] And we're supposed to believe that all ''this'' makes for a happy ending?
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ending? The real happy ending, however, happens in AuthorsSavingThrow.



* TheWoobie: Does '''anything''' go right in Hatsumi's life?

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* TheWoobie: Does '''anything''' ''anything'' go right in Hatsumi's life?
life?
1st Nov '14 1:13:51 PM Tehrannotaur
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1st Nov '14 11:47:11 AM Tehrannotaur
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* DeaderThanDisco: This was actually fairly popular in the US when it was new. Now it's one of the most hated shoujo manga ''ever''.

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* DeaderThanDisco: This was actually [[GermansLoveDavidHasslehoff fairly popular in the US when it was new. new]]. Now [[AmericansHateTingle it's one of the most hated shoujo manga manga]] ''ever''.
27th Jun '14 10:54:52 AM KuroKokoro
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* DeaderThanDisco: This was actually fairly popular in the US when it was new. Now it's one of the most hated shoujo manga ''ever''.
13th Jun '14 12:40:40 PM TastySauce
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17th Feb '14 1:12:56 AM Discontent
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: One of the few shoujo manga that fits this trope.
* DieForOurShip: In contrast with the below trope, not a few people would love Ryoki to drop dead...
** Though it's not always because they want him to [[DieForOurShip die for their ship.]] Sometimes, they really just want him to drop dead ''[[BastardBoyfriend because]] [[{{Jerkass}} he's]] [[AttemptedRape an]] [[CrazyJealousGuy ass]] [[ItsAllAboutMe hole]]''. Even people who don't ship Hatsumi with ''any'' of the characters still think that she could find someone better than [[{{Yandere}} Ryoki]]. [[WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack Who can blame them?]]

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: One of the few shoujo manga that fits this trope.
trope. Every character is a [[JerkAss jerk]] or a idiot, and nobody receives any major character development (in fact the opposite seems to happen). The EsotericHappyEnding doesn't help, [[spoiler:not even when the novel ended up fixing it]].
* DieForOurShip: DieForOurShip:
**
In contrast with the below trope, not a few people would love Ryoki to drop dead...
** Though it's not always because they want him to [[DieForOurShip die for their ship.]] Sometimes, they really just want him to drop dead ''[[BastardBoyfriend because]] [[{{Jerkass}} he's]] [[AttemptedRape an]] [[CrazyJealousGuy ass]] [[ItsAllAboutMe hole]]''.because he's an asshole]]''. Even people who don't ship Hatsumi with ''any'' of the characters still think that she could find someone better than [[{{Yandere}} Ryoki]]. [[WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack Who can blame them?]]



* EsotericHappyEnding: So Hatsumi [[spoiler:decides to stay with Ryoki in spite of his verbal and emotional abuse of her because she thinks that marriage will make him nicer to her?]] Azusa [[spoiler:goes back to being a vengeful bastard after learning that Ryoki's father was responsible for his mother's woes?]] Shinogu [[spoiler:abruptly decides to go off and become a monk after realizing that he'll never get Hatsumi?]] And we're supposed to believe that all ''this'' makes for a happy ending?

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* EsotericHappyEnding: EsotericHappyEnding:
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So Hatsumi [[spoiler:decides to stay with Ryoki in spite of his verbal and emotional abuse of her because she thinks that marriage will make him nicer to her?]] Azusa [[spoiler:goes back to being a vengeful bastard after learning that Ryoki's father was responsible for his mother's woes?]] Shinogu [[spoiler:abruptly decides to go off and become a monk after realizing that he'll never get Hatsumi?]] And we're supposed to believe that all ''this'' makes for a happy ending?
14th Jun '13 10:24:05 AM KuroKokoro
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After the outcry when it was revealed that Hatsumi decided to [[spoiler: [[LoveMartyr stay by Ryoki's side despite his abuse]]]], a Hot Gimmick S novel was released soon after in which Hatsumi actually [[spoiler: thinks twice about it, breaks up with Ryoki and goes to [[FanPreferredCouple Shinogu]].]]

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After the outcry when it was revealed that Hatsumi decided to [[spoiler: [[LoveMartyr stay by Ryoki's side despite his abuse]]]], a Hot Gimmick S novel was released (though not by the mangaka) soon after in which Hatsumi actually [[spoiler: thinks twice about it, breaks up with Ryoki and goes to [[FanPreferredCouple Shinogu]].]]



* UnfortunateImplications: Aihara is notorious for accidentally falling into this trap in several of her works, but this is perhaps the most infamous case. A portion of readers cite reasons ranging from dated gender roles to backwards messages such as "abusive and dominating relationships are okay as long as the person in question has moments where it looks like he actually cares."

to:

* UnfortunateImplications: Aihara is notorious for accidentally falling into this trap in several of her works, but this is perhaps the most infamous case. A portion of readers cite reasons ranging from dated gender roles to obvious sexism to backwards messages such as "abusive and dominating relationships are okay as long as the person in question has moments where it looks like he actually cares."
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