History YMMV / HeroesOfMightAndMagic

15th Aug '16 11:18:03 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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*** Some of the criticism of the sixth game is in this vein (for instance, criticising the reduction of the number of resources).
* TheyJustDidntCare: Ubisoft's HD remake of the third game shows a serious lack of effort. The graphics are better, but not to a very significant degree, as all they did was polish up the sprites. Online play is hardly easier to use than before, and players have also noted that it crashes in ways that the original game did not. Made worse by the fact that it does not include the two expansions, which ''are'' included in the Complete edition which costs less than Ubisoft's version.

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*** Some of the criticism of the sixth game is in this vein (for instance, criticising the reduction of the number of resources).
* TheyJustDidntCare: Ubisoft's HD remake of the third game shows a serious lack of effort. The graphics are better, but not to a very significant degree, as all they did was polish up the sprites. Online play is hardly easier to use than before, and players have also noted that it crashes in ways that the original game did not. Made worse by the fact that it does not include the two expansions, which ''are'' included in the Complete edition which costs less than Ubisoft's version.
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28th Jul '16 2:09:57 AM Amon_Ra
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*** The dragons of the first game are much stronger than any of the other unique creatures of the other factions. Any wizard who can muster enough treasure to support them and secure access to a sulfur mine can storm his way through any other factions armies without too much difficulty. The dragons' dominance continued in Heroes II, though the titans did provide some resistance, [[http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes2/titanvsdragon.shtml though some speculate that it's not enough]]. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in one of the random rumors you can hear at the tavern: "A Black Dragon will take out a Titan any day of the week." The third game's ''Armageddon's Blade'' expansion introduces four neutral dragon units. Each is in a tier of their own and they are ''obscenely'' powerful. How powerful? The strongest one, the azure dragon, costs ''30000 gold and 20 mercury'' to recruit from its dwelling. And that's a ''bargain''. Its special ability is to ''scare its enemies shitless'', preventing them from taking any action for a turn, has by FAR the highest stats in the game, except speed which is still among the highest. Usually falls under AwesomeButImpractical due to the staggering cost, however.

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*** The dragons of the first game are much stronger than any of the other unique creatures of the other factions. Any wizard who can muster stock enough treasure to support them and have a secure access to a sulfur mine can storm his way through any other factions armies without too much difficulty. The dragons' dominance continued in Heroes II, though the titans did provide some resistance, [[http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes2/titanvsdragon.shtml though some speculate that it's not enough]]. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in one of the random rumors you can hear at the tavern: "A Black Dragon will take out a Titan any day of the week." The third game's ''Armageddon's Blade'' expansion introduces four neutral dragon units. Each is in a tier of their own and they are ''obscenely'' powerful. How powerful? The strongest one, the azure dragon, costs ''30000 gold and 20 mercury'' to recruit from its dwelling.nest. And that's a ''bargain''. Its special ability is to ''scare its enemies shitless'', preventing them from taking any action for a turn, has by FAR the highest stats in the game, except speed which is still among the highest. Usually falls under AwesomeButImpractical due to the staggering cost, however.
28th Jul '16 2:04:01 AM Amon_Ra
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** Vampires. Reasonable stats everywhere, can fly around you, upgrades can prevent you from retaliating, and ressurect based on dealt damage if they're fighting living creatures. If it weren't for the fact that half the Necropolis' army is fodder in any game, they'd be much worse to stop.

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** Vampires. Reasonable stats everywhere, can fly around you, upgrades can prevent you from retaliating, and ressurect based on dealt damage if they're fighting living creatures. If it weren't for the fact that half the Necropolis' army is fodder garbage in any game, they'd be much worse to stop.
8th Feb '16 6:28:33 AM Freshmeat
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* [[EvenBetterSequel Even Better Sequel]]/[[MagnumOpus Magnum Opus]]: Heroes II and III are often regarded as the pinnacle of the series, and for good reasons.

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* [[EvenBetterSequel Even Better Sequel]]/[[MagnumOpus Magnum Opus]]: EvenBetterSequel: Heroes II and III are often regarded as the pinnacle of the series, and for good reasons.
7th Dec '15 6:08:48 PM YZQ
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* ThatOneBoss: Orlando, the Demon Lord you fight at the end of the Necromancer campaign in Tribes of the East. Due to a ridiculous combination of skills and the Lion artifact set, he has Luck and Morale parameters at +9, meaning that every unit will either crit or get an extra turn 90% of the item. Even with the ultimate Necromancer skill and the various artifacts you have by now, you can at most reduce this to +3 or +4. On top of that he has a stupidly powerful ballista that does about 500 damage per shot, shoots 4 times a turn and can crit. Luckily you have a massive amount of towns to draw forces from, but Orlando also gains troops with time.
* ThatOneLevel: Steadwick's Fall in III. The goal is to conquer Steadwick within 3 months. The catch? It's guarded by Lord Kendal, a very powerful Campaign-exclusive hero. Not helped by the fact that the city's barricaded by heavy garrisons and extra cities surrounding the entire map.

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* ThatOneBoss: Orlando, the Demon Lord you fight at the end of the Necromancer campaign in Tribes of the East. Due to a ridiculous combination of skills and the Lion artifact set, he has Luck and Morale parameters at +9, meaning that every unit will either crit or get an extra turn 90% of the item. Even with the ultimate Necromancer skill and the various artifacts you have by now, you can at most reduce this to +3 or +4. On top of that he has a stupidly powerful ballista that does about 500 damage per shot, shoots 4 times a turn and can crit. Luckily you have a massive amount of towns to draw forces from, but Orlando also gains troops with time.
* ThatOneLevel: Steadwick's Fall in III.''III''. The goal is to conquer Steadwick within 3 months. The catch? It's guarded by Lord Kendal, a very powerful Campaign-exclusive hero. Not helped by the fact that the city's barricaded by heavy garrisons and extra cities surrounding the entire map.
7th Dec '15 6:07:32 PM YZQ
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* TheScrappy: The fact that Celestial Heavens has [[http://www.celestialheavens.com/viewpage.php?id=1180452097 "The Queen Isabel Kicking Game"]] is proof that she's considered the Scrappy. She's the main character of the fifth game's saga to boot.
* {{Squick}}: Thralsai, leader of the dark elf Soul Scar clan in ''Hammers of Fate'' has a line that wouldn't sound strange coming from one of the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} dark eldar]]:
--->'''Thralsai:''' I feel the urge to celebrate. Fetch me a slave, a fresh one. And towels for the blood.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Raelag and Isabel in ''Hammers of Fate''. Especially egregious considering that [[spoiler: Raelag murdered Isabel's husband Nicolai in the main game]]. The awkwardness of this pairing probably contributed to Raelag being [[PutOnABus written out of the story]] in ''Tribes of the East''.
7th Dec '15 6:05:35 PM YZQ
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* GrowingTheBeard: While the fifth game and its first expansion suffered from lackluster storytelling, ''Tribes of the East'' featured better writing, a new level of strategy thanks to alternate upgrades, another new town, and several other tweaks to the gameplay. It also didn't hurt that ''Tribes of the East'' was a stand-alone product.
7th Dec '15 5:50:01 PM YZQ
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* BrokenBase: ''Heroes IV'': an interesting unorthodox take or a DorkAge best forgotten? ''Heroes V'': a breath of fresh air or a buggy and unoriginal remake of III in 3D? ''Heroes VI'': Is it going to be the best or worst installment ever? Ashan: a valiant effort to clean up the ContinuitySnarl of the NWC era, or a bland and generic fantasy world? Practically every mention of Ubisoft or Nival is bound to have split opinions among the fanbase. Even the overall well-liked third game gets this occasionally for its ArtShift from the more fairy-talish visuals of the first two games to a RealIsBrown palette.
** With the release of ''Heroes VI'', the broken base has been shifted to "Is it irredeemable, or can it become a good game with sufficient patching and feature-adding via expansions?".

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* BrokenBase: ''Heroes IV'': an interesting unorthodox take or a DorkAge best forgotten? ''Heroes V'': a breath of fresh air or a buggy and unoriginal remake of III in 3D? ''Heroes VI'': Is it going to be the best or worst installment ever? Ashan: a valiant effort to clean up the ContinuitySnarl of the NWC era, or a bland and generic fantasy world? Practically every mention of Ubisoft or Nival is bound to have split opinions among the fanbase. Even the overall well-liked third game gets this occasionally for its ArtShift from the more fairy-talish visuals of the first two games to a RealIsBrown palette.
** With the release of ''Heroes VI'', the broken base has been shifted to "Is it irredeemable, or can it become a good game with sufficient patching and feature-adding via expansions?".
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9th Oct '15 4:37:29 AM Ilya_Rysenkov
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* Kha-Beleth, Demon Sovereign from Ashan universe. Let's see: [[spoiler: he plans to capture Isabel and impregante her in order to produce the [[TheAntichrist Dark Messiah]], who is predicted to break Sheogh and free all the demons. Heroes defeated him? The boy is already born, and the saved queen is succubus Biara, his Dragon, who is ordered to bring as much misery to the Griffin's Empire and the world as possible, all to distract heroes from finding Sareth... which is done quite flawlessly. Only Sareth's choices in the ''Dark Messiah of Might and Magic'' can avert his victory.]]

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* ** Kha-Beleth, Demon Sovereign from Ashan universe. Let's see: [[spoiler: he plans to capture Isabel and impregante her in order to produce the [[TheAntichrist Dark Messiah]], who is predicted to break Sheogh and free all the demons. Heroes defeated him? The boy is already born, and the saved queen is succubus Biara, his Dragon, who is ordered to bring as much misery to the Griffin's Empire and the world as possible, all to distract heroes from finding Sareth... which is done quite flawlessly. Only Sareth's choices in the ''Dark Messiah of Might and Magic'' can avert his victory.]]
9th Oct '15 4:36:55 AM Ilya_Rysenkov
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* Kha-Beleth, Demon Sovereign from Ashan universe. Let's see: [[spoiler: he plans to capture Isabel and impregante her in order to produce the [[TheAntichrist Dark Messiah]], who is predicted to break Sheogh and free all the demons. Heroes defeated him? The boyu is already born, and the saved queen is succubus Biara, his Dragon, who is ordered to bring as much misery to the Griffin's Empire and the world as possible, all to distract heroes from finding Sareth... which is done quite flawlessly. Only Sareth's choices in the ''Dark Messiah of Might and Magic'' can avert his victory.]]

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* Kha-Beleth, Demon Sovereign from Ashan universe. Let's see: [[spoiler: he plans to capture Isabel and impregante her in order to produce the [[TheAntichrist Dark Messiah]], who is predicted to break Sheogh and free all the demons. Heroes defeated him? The boyu boy is already born, and the saved queen is succubus Biara, his Dragon, who is ordered to bring as much misery to the Griffin's Empire and the world as possible, all to distract heroes from finding Sareth... which is done quite flawlessly. Only Sareth's choices in the ''Dark Messiah of Might and Magic'' can avert his victory.]]
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