History YMMV / HeroesOfMightAndMagic

8th Feb '16 6:28:33 AM Freshmeat
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* [[EvenBetterSequel Even Better Sequel]]/[[MagnumOpus Magnum Opus]]: Heroes II and III are often regarded as the pinnacle of the series, and for good reasons.

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* [[EvenBetterSequel Even Better Sequel]]/[[MagnumOpus Magnum Opus]]: EvenBetterSequel: Heroes II and III are often regarded as the pinnacle of the series, and for good reasons.
7th Dec '15 6:08:48 PM YZQ
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* ThatOneBoss: Orlando, the Demon Lord you fight at the end of the Necromancer campaign in Tribes of the East. Due to a ridiculous combination of skills and the Lion artifact set, he has Luck and Morale parameters at +9, meaning that every unit will either crit or get an extra turn 90% of the item. Even with the ultimate Necromancer skill and the various artifacts you have by now, you can at most reduce this to +3 or +4. On top of that he has a stupidly powerful ballista that does about 500 damage per shot, shoots 4 times a turn and can crit. Luckily you have a massive amount of towns to draw forces from, but Orlando also gains troops with time.
* ThatOneLevel: Steadwick's Fall in III. The goal is to conquer Steadwick within 3 months. The catch? It's guarded by Lord Kendal, a very powerful Campaign-exclusive hero. Not helped by the fact that the city's barricaded by heavy garrisons and extra cities surrounding the entire map.

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* ThatOneBoss: Orlando, the Demon Lord you fight at the end of the Necromancer campaign in Tribes of the East. Due to a ridiculous combination of skills and the Lion artifact set, he has Luck and Morale parameters at +9, meaning that every unit will either crit or get an extra turn 90% of the item. Even with the ultimate Necromancer skill and the various artifacts you have by now, you can at most reduce this to +3 or +4. On top of that he has a stupidly powerful ballista that does about 500 damage per shot, shoots 4 times a turn and can crit. Luckily you have a massive amount of towns to draw forces from, but Orlando also gains troops with time.
* ThatOneLevel: Steadwick's Fall in III.''III''. The goal is to conquer Steadwick within 3 months. The catch? It's guarded by Lord Kendal, a very powerful Campaign-exclusive hero. Not helped by the fact that the city's barricaded by heavy garrisons and extra cities surrounding the entire map.
7th Dec '15 6:07:32 PM YZQ
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* TheScrappy: The fact that Celestial Heavens has [[http://www.celestialheavens.com/viewpage.php?id=1180452097 "The Queen Isabel Kicking Game"]] is proof that she's considered the Scrappy. She's the main character of the fifth game's saga to boot.
* {{Squick}}: Thralsai, leader of the dark elf Soul Scar clan in ''Hammers of Fate'' has a line that wouldn't sound strange coming from one of the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} dark eldar]]:
--->'''Thralsai:''' I feel the urge to celebrate. Fetch me a slave, a fresh one. And towels for the blood.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Raelag and Isabel in ''Hammers of Fate''. Especially egregious considering that [[spoiler: Raelag murdered Isabel's husband Nicolai in the main game]]. The awkwardness of this pairing probably contributed to Raelag being [[PutOnABus written out of the story]] in ''Tribes of the East''.
7th Dec '15 6:05:35 PM YZQ
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* GrowingTheBeard: While the fifth game and its first expansion suffered from lackluster storytelling, ''Tribes of the East'' featured better writing, a new level of strategy thanks to alternate upgrades, another new town, and several other tweaks to the gameplay. It also didn't hurt that ''Tribes of the East'' was a stand-alone product.
7th Dec '15 5:50:01 PM YZQ
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* BrokenBase: ''Heroes IV'': an interesting unorthodox take or a DorkAge best forgotten? ''Heroes V'': a breath of fresh air or a buggy and unoriginal remake of III in 3D? ''Heroes VI'': Is it going to be the best or worst installment ever? Ashan: a valiant effort to clean up the ContinuitySnarl of the NWC era, or a bland and generic fantasy world? Practically every mention of Ubisoft or Nival is bound to have split opinions among the fanbase. Even the overall well-liked third game gets this occasionally for its ArtShift from the more fairy-talish visuals of the first two games to a RealIsBrown palette.
** With the release of ''Heroes VI'', the broken base has been shifted to "Is it irredeemable, or can it become a good game with sufficient patching and feature-adding via expansions?".

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* BrokenBase: ''Heroes IV'': an interesting unorthodox take or a DorkAge best forgotten? ''Heroes V'': a breath of fresh air or a buggy and unoriginal remake of III in 3D? ''Heroes VI'': Is it going to be the best or worst installment ever? Ashan: a valiant effort to clean up the ContinuitySnarl of the NWC era, or a bland and generic fantasy world? Practically every mention of Ubisoft or Nival is bound to have split opinions among the fanbase. Even the overall well-liked third game gets this occasionally for its ArtShift from the more fairy-talish visuals of the first two games to a RealIsBrown palette.
** With the release of ''Heroes VI'', the broken base has been shifted to "Is it irredeemable, or can it become a good game with sufficient patching and feature-adding via expansions?".
palette.
9th Oct '15 4:37:29 AM Ilya_Rysenkov
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* Kha-Beleth, Demon Sovereign from Ashan universe. Let's see: [[spoiler: he plans to capture Isabel and impregante her in order to produce the [[TheAntichrist Dark Messiah]], who is predicted to break Sheogh and free all the demons. Heroes defeated him? The boy is already born, and the saved queen is succubus Biara, his Dragon, who is ordered to bring as much misery to the Griffin's Empire and the world as possible, all to distract heroes from finding Sareth... which is done quite flawlessly. Only Sareth's choices in the ''Dark Messiah of Might and Magic'' can avert his victory.]]

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* ** Kha-Beleth, Demon Sovereign from Ashan universe. Let's see: [[spoiler: he plans to capture Isabel and impregante her in order to produce the [[TheAntichrist Dark Messiah]], who is predicted to break Sheogh and free all the demons. Heroes defeated him? The boy is already born, and the saved queen is succubus Biara, his Dragon, who is ordered to bring as much misery to the Griffin's Empire and the world as possible, all to distract heroes from finding Sareth... which is done quite flawlessly. Only Sareth's choices in the ''Dark Messiah of Might and Magic'' can avert his victory.]]
9th Oct '15 4:36:55 AM Ilya_Rysenkov
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* Kha-Beleth, Demon Sovereign from Ashan universe. Let's see: [[spoiler: he plans to capture Isabel and impregante her in order to produce the [[TheAntichrist Dark Messiah]], who is predicted to break Sheogh and free all the demons. Heroes defeated him? The boyu is already born, and the saved queen is succubus Biara, his Dragon, who is ordered to bring as much misery to the Griffin's Empire and the world as possible, all to distract heroes from finding Sareth... which is done quite flawlessly. Only Sareth's choices in the ''Dark Messiah of Might and Magic'' can avert his victory.]]

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* Kha-Beleth, Demon Sovereign from Ashan universe. Let's see: [[spoiler: he plans to capture Isabel and impregante her in order to produce the [[TheAntichrist Dark Messiah]], who is predicted to break Sheogh and free all the demons. Heroes defeated him? The boyu boy is already born, and the saved queen is succubus Biara, his Dragon, who is ordered to bring as much misery to the Griffin's Empire and the world as possible, all to distract heroes from finding Sareth... which is done quite flawlessly. Only Sareth's choices in the ''Dark Messiah of Might and Magic'' can avert his victory.]]
9th Oct '15 4:36:09 AM Ilya_Rysenkov
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* Kha-Beleth, Demon Sovereign from Ashan universe. Let's see: [[spoiler: he plans to capture Isabel and impregante her in order to produce the [[TheAntichrist Dark Messiah]], who is predicted to break Sheogh and free all the demons. Heroes defeated him? The boyu is already born, and the saved queen is succubus Biara, his Dragon, who is ordered to bring as much misery to the Griffin's Empire and the world as possible, all to distract heroes from finding Sareth... which is done quite flawlessly. Only Sareth's choices in the ''Dark Messiah of Might and Magic'' can avert his victory.]]
1st Sep '15 12:07:11 AM Deathhacker
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* GoddamnedBats: Ghosts in ''V'' are incredibly annoying. They're not that tough, but they have a 50% chance of avoiding any non-magical damage. A pretty big issue early on, when your heroes probably don't have any potent attack spells.

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Ghosts in ''V'' are incredibly annoying. They're not that tough, but they have a 50% chance of avoiding any non-magical damage. A pretty big issue early on, when your heroes probably don't have any potent attack spells.


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** Neutral Shooter stacks in early game, especially those guarding resources, are horribly annoying to deal with. Unlike melee units, shooters will always get a shot off, which usually will kill a handful of your units since you gotta slog it across the field. It doesn't help that most early game units are slow and melee, meaning not only will you get shot at, but chances are you will get shot ''twice'' as you slowly make your way across no-man's land.
1st Sep '15 12:02:37 AM Deathhacker
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*** Thant is possibly the most powerful of the heroes of Necropolis because he starts with and specializes in Animate Dead. Unlike Ressurection, Animate Dead lets you keep any undead units after the battle at any mastery. Unlike other specializations, Thant's ability remains useful from beginning till end, as it multiplies in effectiveness with him, allowing you to effectively never lose a single unit ''throughout the course of the game''.

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*** Thant is possibly the most powerful of the heroes of Necropolis because he starts with and specializes in Animate Dead. Unlike Ressurection, Animate Dead lets you keep any undead units after the battle at any mastery. Unlike other specializations, Thant's ability remains useful from beginning till end, as it multiplies in effectiveness with him, allowing you to effectively never lose a single unit ''throughout the course of the game''. This gets worse if you combine him with the Cloak of the Undead King (see below) as Thant can not only never lose a single unit in any battle, every victory also significantly boosts his army's power.
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