History YMMV / Hercules

17th Jul '17 9:51:48 AM fearlessnikki
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* {{Fanon}}: Meg becoming a goddess and joining Hercules on Mount Olympus is a very popular notion.

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Meg becoming a goddess and joining Hercules on Mount Olympus is a very popular notion.notion.
** A popular fan theory is that when Meg entered into service with Hades, he had something to do with her boyfriend falling for another woman.



* IronWoobie: Throughout the movie, poor Hercules suffers from circumstances that would cause [[FreudianExcuse some people to become villains.]] But [[GentleGiant he always has a heart even bigger than his muscles and wouldn't hurt a fly]]... [[BerserkButton unless they did something to Meg. It's on then.]]

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** The film's climax has Aphrodite passionately kissing Phil. Phil is voiced by Danny [=DeVito=], and in the TV series Aphrodite would be voiced by Lisa Kudrow. ''{{Series/Friends}}'' fans will recall a memorable episode where Danny [=DeVito=] plays a stripper who repulses Phoebe at her bachelorette party.
* IronWoobie: IronWoobie:
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Throughout the movie, poor Hercules suffers from circumstances that would cause [[FreudianExcuse some people to become villains.]] But [[GentleGiant he always has a heart even bigger than his muscles and wouldn't hurt a fly]]... [[BerserkButton unless they did something to Meg. It's on then.]]]]
** Meg too when you think about her backstory. She made a DealWithTheDevil to save the life of the man she loved, only for him to fall for another woman. And she's been forced to be a servant for Hades, and it's not a stretch to assume that her introduction scene has her in danger of being raped by Nessus.



* GeniusBonus: In the myths, Hercules actually did free Prometheus from his punishment. In fact, a lot of the background behind the show is fairly well grounded in ancient Greek myths and history, far more so than the movie and more savvy viewers can get the references and AllohistoricalAllusion behind the references.

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* GeniusBonus: GeniusBonus:
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In the myths, Hercules actually did free Prometheus from his punishment. In fact, a lot of the background behind the show is fairly well grounded in ancient Greek myths and history, far more so than the movie and more savvy viewers can get the references and AllohistoricalAllusion behind the references.
** Medusa's episode has a gag to anyone that's familiar with working at Disneyland. Hades's employees are brought into orientation, where Pain and Panic say "we're not employees; we're cast members" - cue FacePalm from Medusa.



** Circe's song "One Good Man" becomes a lot harder to listen to, considering how Idina Menzel and her husband Taye Diggs separated in 2013.
*** Averted thanks to her marriage with Aaron Lohr, the singing voice of Max in ''WesternAnimation/AGoofyMovie''.

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** Circe's song "One Good Man" becomes a lot harder to listen to, considering how Idina Menzel and her husband Taye Diggs separated in 2013.
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2013. Averted thanks to her marriage with Aaron Lohr, the singing voice of Max in ''WesternAnimation/AGoofyMovie''.
6th Jul '17 5:25:30 PM MisterCPC
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** The part where Herc's foster parents find him up to when he talks with Zeus for the first time is much more like "''[[Film/{{Superman}} Superman: The Movie]]''[=/=]''Series/{{Smallville}}'' in Ancient Greece" than the myths. And Hercules [[spoiler:temporarily]] gives up his superhuman abilities, as in ''Film/SupermanII''. ''ComicBook/AllStarSuperman'' writer Creator/GrantMorrison even considers Hercules to be the best Superman movie.

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** The part where Herc's foster parents find him up to when he talks with Zeus for the first time is much more like "''[[Film/{{Superman}} Superman: The Movie]]''[=/=]''Series/{{Smallville}}'' in Ancient Greece" than the myths. And Hercules [[spoiler:temporarily]] gives up his superhuman abilities, as in ''Film/SupermanII''.''Film/SupermanII'', while his love interest [[spoiler:temporarily dies]] just like what happens with Lois in the first film. ''ComicBook/AllStarSuperman'' writer Creator/GrantMorrison even considers Hercules to be the best Superman movie.
4th Jul '17 6:05:09 PM drac0blade
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** This film version of Zeus is popular for jokes about the real Zeus [[AnythingThatMoves sex adventures.]]
--> '''Zeus:''' ''I'm going to put my dick on it!''
--> '''Everyone:''' ''Don't point your dick on it''

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** This film version of Zeus is popular for jokes about the real Zeus [[AnythingThatMoves sex adventures.]]
]] (The following is corrected for diction.)
--> '''Zeus:''' ''I'm going to ''"I'm gonna put my dick on in it!''
--> '''Everyone:''' ''Don't point your dick on it''in it!''
2nd Jul '17 9:31:29 PM lorgskyegon
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** When Phil says "Two words: I am retired." it makes Hercules confused. But the Greek translation is "Είμαι συνταξιούχος". Two words.
29th Jun '17 12:17:32 PM MagBas
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Hercules was Disney's ''[[AvertedTrope attempt]]'' to perform this feat. After the LoveItOrHateIt reaction audiences gave to Disney's [[Disney/{{Pocahontas}} previous]] [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame efforts]] to appeal to a more mature audience, Hercules was meant to be the return to LighterAndSofter form. The company even promoted a large marketing blitz trumpeting the fact that it was being directed by the same guys who did ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}''. The final box office total ended up being even ''weaker'' than the previous two films.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: Hercules was Disney's ''[[AvertedTrope attempt]]'' to perform this feat. After the LoveItOrHateIt reaction audiences gave to Disney's [[Disney/{{Pocahontas}} previous]] [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame efforts]] to appeal to a more mature audience, Hercules was meant to be the return to LighterAndSofter form. The company even promoted a large marketing blitz trumpeting the fact that it was being directed by the same guys who did ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' and ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}''. The final box office total ended up being even ''weaker'' than the previous two films.

29th Jun '17 12:13:39 PM MagBas
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Its either considered a legitimately funny, feel-good musical that serves as a refreshingly light change of pace for Disney films, or a sign of Disney entering a [[DorkAge creative rut]] by trying to replicate the success of ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' by [[DisneyFication heavily Disneyfying]] Greek Mythology.
2nd May '17 4:29:43 PM dsneybuf
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** While Creator/JoshKeaton didn't voice Hercules again, eventually Disney ''would'' air season two of ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'', in which Josh voiced another superpowered teen trying to balance crimefighting and school.
20th Apr '17 5:41:27 PM DrakeClawfang
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* RootingForTheEmpire: An unfortunate side-effect of making Hades so likable. Quite a few people who watch the film admit to hoping that Hades wins, because he's such a lovable character.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: An unfortunate side-effect of making Hades so likable. Quite a few people who watch the film admit to hoping interesting and funny is that Hades wins, because he's such a lovable character.you want ''him'' to defeat the more straight-laced and boring heroes.


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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Hades is, thanks to Zeus, stuck ruling the Underworld, which as he notes is "dark, gloomy, and full of dead people," while the other gods get to live on Mount Olympus. Hades is also TheFriendNobodyLikes to the other gods; save for Zeus they all want nothing to do with him and the party shuts down the instant he shows up. Not to mention he seems to be much less well-regarded by mortals. No wonder RootingForTheEmpire kicks in in this movie.
18th Apr '17 7:40:08 PM DrakeClawfang
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Hercules is told that "being famous isn't the same as being a true hero." Except he ''got'' famous by fighting various monsters terrorizing the ancient world. It's only once he almost dies saving Meg that he becomes a "true hero" based on the strength of his heart. Thus the film implies that against a HeroicSacrifice to save the life of someone you love, fighting evil and saving lives aren't "real" heroic deeds. Combined with Phil, the idea is put forth that conventional heroes that do great feats like this do so out of an inherent selfishness to be rewarded with fame and recognition, which is why they aren't ''real'' heroes like Hercules is.
18th Apr '17 5:02:52 AM Josef5678
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* HarsherInHindsight: For those familiar with the Greek Myth Hercules telling Megara "I would never hurt you".
** Also for those familiar with the myth, Herc's mentor and friend being called Philoctetes. Yes, the mythological Hercules knew a Philoctetes as well, but he was the one to ''light Herc's funeral pyre''.

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* HarsherInHindsight: For those familiar with the Greek Myth Myth:
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Hercules telling Megara "I would never hurt you".
** Also for those familiar with the myth, Herc's mentor and friend being called Philoctetes. Yes, the mythological Hercules knew a Philoctetes as well, but he was the one to ''light Herc's funeral pyre''.
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