History YMMV / Hercules

15th Nov '17 10:27:48 AM MrMediaGuy2
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* TheScrappy: Phil slides into this, even though he's pivotal to the progression of the plot. Many find him to be annoying at best, and his womanizing tendencies, creepy at worst. [[CharacterFocus Hercules' aspirations are supposed]] to be the core of the story, but Phil's presence dominates, [[MalignantPlotTumor desiring universal acclaim and recognition]] for training a legendary hero. Once he's achieved that goal, the film ends.
1st Nov '17 7:49:11 PM Pamina
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Meg [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifices herself]] to save Hercules by letting a huge marble column crush her. Then we see her dying, clearly in pain. Then she dies. Then you see her dead body on screen prominently for a good thirty seconds, cradled by the sobbing Herc. She sure is a lovely corpse, but she sure is dead too. Not "really just unconscious," not under a reversible [[SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs Sleeping Death]] spell '''dead''. Then she's a spirit in the Well Of Souls, colorless, transparent and floating in an eerie green limbo, with the rapidly aging Herc swimming through more dead people to get to her. You know, for kids.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Meg [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifices herself]] to save Hercules by letting a huge marble column crush her. Then we see her dying, clearly in pain. Then she dies. Then you see her dead body on screen prominently for a good thirty seconds, cradled by the sobbing Herc. She sure is a lovely corpse, but she sure is dead too. Not "really just unconscious," not under a reversible [[SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs Sleeping Death]] spell '''dead''.spell: ''dead''. Then she's a spirit in the Well Of Souls, colorless, transparent and floating in an eerie green limbo, with the rapidly aging Herc swimming through more dead people to get to her. You know, for kids.
1st Nov '17 7:36:04 PM Pamina
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* VanillaProtagonist: The film's detractors tend to label Hercules a bland character overshadowed by the supporting cast, especially Hades, and whose goals aren't really consistent or defined beyond .

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* VanillaProtagonist: The film's detractors tend to label Hercules a bland character overshadowed by the supporting cast, especially Hades, and whose goals aren't really consistent or defined beyond .beyond "becoming a true hero" and "finding where he belongs."
1st Nov '17 7:33:28 PM Pamina
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* WTHCastingAgency: For both Mexican and Latin American viewers, Ricky Martin as the titular Hercules, due to his thick Puerto Rican accent. While the rest of the voice cast was voiced by Mexican voice actors, Ricky Martin's voice really sticks like a sore thumb in the cast. For a better equivalent for English speakers, try to imagine Hercules being voiced by ''Music/BobMarley'', if he was being alive at the time of the film.[[note]]This was Disney's ''first'' attempt at using famous artists to voice characters for the LA audience, so you can say they goofed up. Ricky Martin was very famous overall (though not yet internationally to English audiences) and he was signed to sing the movie's theme song for Herc. It was odd, but he did a rather good job, accent and all. It was the FIRST time it was blatant, previous Disney movies like ''The Jungle Book'' did use famous Mexican movie actors for the dub in Latin America (Baloo is voiced by comedian Tin-Tan and is fondly remembered to this day, he repeated in ''The Aristocats'', and also voiced Little John in ''Disney/RobinHood'').[[/note]]


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* WTHCastingAgency: For both Mexican and Latin American viewers, Ricky Martin as the titular Hercules, due to his thick Puerto Rican accent. While the rest of the voice cast was voiced by Mexican voice actors, Ricky Martin's voice really sticks like a sore thumb in the cast. For a better equivalent for English speakers, try to imagine Hercules being voiced by ''Music/BobMarley'', if he was being had been alive at the time of the film.film was made.[[note]]This was Disney's ''first'' attempt at using famous artists to voice characters for the LA audience, so you can say they goofed up. Ricky Martin was very famous overall (though not yet internationally to English audiences) and he was signed to sing the movie's theme song for Herc. It was odd, but he did a rather good job, accent and all. It was the FIRST time it was blatant, previous Disney movies like ''The Jungle Book'' did use famous Mexican movie actors for the dub in Latin America (Baloo is voiced by comedian Tin-Tan and is fondly remembered to this day, he repeated in ''The Aristocats'', and also voiced Little John in ''Disney/RobinHood'').[[/note]]

1st Nov '17 7:32:28 PM Pamina
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* VanillaProtagonist: Hercules is a character whose goals aren't really consistent or defined.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: We see Meg dying, clearly in pain. Then she dies. Then you see her dead body on screen prominently for a good thirty seconds, cradled by the sobbing Herc. She sure is a lovely corpse, but she sure is dead too. Then she's in the Well Of Souls, with the rapidly ageing Herc swimming through more dead people to get to her. You know, for kids.

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* VanillaProtagonist: The film's detractors tend to label Hercules is a bland character overshadowed by the supporting cast, especially Hades, and whose goals aren't really consistent or defined.
defined beyond .
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: We Meg [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifices herself]] to save Hercules by letting a huge marble column crush her. Then we see Meg her dying, clearly in pain. Then she dies. Then you see her dead body on screen prominently for a good thirty seconds, cradled by the sobbing Herc. She sure is a lovely corpse, but she sure is dead too. Not "really just unconscious," not under a reversible [[SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs Sleeping Death]] spell '''dead''. Then she's a spirit in the Well Of Souls, colorless, transparent and floating in an eerie green limbo, with the rapidly ageing aging Herc swimming through more dead people to get to her. You know, for kids.
1st Nov '17 7:19:42 PM Pamina
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* AccidentalAesop: Hercules regularly risks life and limb to save total strangers, gets quite famous for it, and is denied a spot on Mt. Olympus because "being famous doesn't make you a true hero." Sacrificing himself to save a single person whom he's in love with, however, is enough to seal the deal. Neither of these actions were purely selfless, so the moral ends up reading something like "good deeds are negated if you reap lots of attention and money for them" with a side of "love stories count for more."

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* AccidentalAesop: Hercules regularly risks life and limb to save total strangers, gets quite famous for it, and is denied a spot on Mt. Olympus because "being famous doesn't make you a true hero." Sacrificing himself to save a single person whom he's in love with, however, is enough to seal the deal. Neither of these actions were purely selfless, but both were genuinely heroic too, so the moral ends up reading something like "good deeds are negated if you reap lots of attention and money for them" with a side of "love stories count for more."
13th Oct '17 3:10:31 AM LB7979
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** Some Latin American fans can't help but chuckle at the relationship between Hercules and Meg after Hercules' Latin American Spanish dub actor, Ricky Martin, came out as gay in 2010.
13th Oct '17 1:52:56 AM youfeelingluckypunk27
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* VanillaProtagonist: Hercules is a character whose goals aren't really consistent or defined.
12th Oct '17 2:21:08 PM youfeelingluckypunk27
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** Seeing Medusa befriend Hercules can be a bit heartbreaking for viewers who believe Perseus will someday [[OffWithHisHead behead her]].

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** Seeing Medusa befriend Hercules can be a bit heartbreaking for viewers who believe Perseus will someday [[OffWithHisHead behead her]]. And unlike in the myth, she's not Pegasus' mother.
5th Oct '17 11:06:54 AM JamesAustin
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** Some Latin American fans can't help but chuckle at the relationship between Hercules and Meg after Hercules' Latin American Spanish dub actor, Ricky Martin, came out as gay in 2010.
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