History YMMV / HenryIV

24th Sep '17 10:19:34 AM MrCaptainA
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation - Is Falstaff some kind of [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass canny]] MagnificentBastard who [[SecretTestOfCharacter tests Hal]], and is eventually surpassed, or just an old fat drunkard who represents the worst excesses of Hal's youth -- who is eventually outgrown?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation - Is Falstaff some kind of [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass canny]] MagnificentBastard who [[SecretTestOfCharacter tests Hal]], and is eventually surpassed, or just an old fat drunkard who represents the worst excesses of Hal's youth -- who is eventually outgrown?outgrown? Does Hal's rejection of Falstaff fall under CrowningMomentOfAwesome, NecessarilyEvil, or KickTheDog? Do Falstaff and Hal even like each other?
18th Aug '17 12:43:08 PM Dragon101
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* MagnificentBastard: Prince John proves himself to be one when he manages to convince a rebel army to disband by telling it's leaders that they will have all of their grievances brought before the King and addressed... [[TooDumbToLive and when they actually believe him]], immediately having them all arrested. He ends the war that has lasted both parts of the play without firing a single arrow.
** As mentioned, Hal can be seen as this depending on whether or not you buy his claim that he is simply playing the fool but really is just biding his time to wait for the right moment to get serious. Depending on the production, the actor could go further and play him as a full-on moustache twirling villain if they so desired, particularly in the scene where he takes the crown from his father mistakenly thinking the King is dead- such a choice would also make his decision to break with Falstaff less about CharacterDevelopment and more a pre-planned, calculated, non-lethal version of YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness.
23rd Apr '17 1:20:05 AM Golondrina
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* EnsembleDarkhorse - Falstaff. To the point that OrsonWelles made a whole movie about him, and eventually ''Queen Elizabeth herself'' requested a play just about Falstaff -- ''Theatre/TheMerryWivesOfWindsor''.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse - Falstaff. To the point that OrsonWelles Creator/OrsonWelles made a whole movie about him, and eventually ''Queen Elizabeth herself'' requested a play just about Falstaff -- ''Theatre/TheMerryWivesOfWindsor''.
22nd May '15 3:52:02 AM Sagetsu
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* OutOfFocus - Close to being a NonIndicativeTitle, the two plays bearing the name of UsefulNotes/HenryTheFourth aren't exactly focused on him but his son, the future Henry V.
31st Oct '14 6:56:17 AM GothicProphet
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** Of course, if you ''don't'' ignore the soliloquy Hal gives, then he's easily the best chessmaster in Shakespeare.

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** Of course, if you ''don't'' ignore the soliloquy Hal gives, then he's easily the best chessmaster in Shakespeare.Shakespeare.
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28th Mar '13 4:07:05 PM Austin
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** Of course, if you ''don't'' ignore the soliloquy Hal gives, then he's easily the best chessmaster in Shakespeare.
* LargeHam - It's nearly contractually required to play Falstaff this way.

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** Of course, if you ''don't'' ignore the soliloquy Hal gives, then he's easily the best chessmaster in Shakespeare.
* LargeHam - It's nearly contractually required to play Falstaff this way.
Shakespeare.
31st Jan '12 12:16:03 PM LordGro
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* EnsembleDarkhorse - Falstaff. To the point that OrsonWelles made a whole movie about him, and eventually ''Queen Elizabeth herself'' requested a play just about Falstaff -- ''TheMerryWivesOfWindsor.''

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* EnsembleDarkhorse - Falstaff. To the point that OrsonWelles made a whole movie about him, and eventually ''Queen Elizabeth herself'' requested a play just about Falstaff -- ''TheMerryWivesOfWindsor.'' ''Theatre/TheMerryWivesOfWindsor''.
19th Nov '11 11:53:36 PM vifetoile
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation - Is Falstaff some kind of MagnificentBastard who tests Hal, and is eventually outgrown, or just an old fat drunkard who represents the worst excesses of Hal's youth?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation - Is Falstaff some kind of [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass canny]] MagnificentBastard who [[SecretTestOfCharacter tests Hal, Hal]], and is eventually outgrown, surpassed, or just an old fat drunkard who represents the worst excesses of Hal's youth?youth -- who is eventually outgrown?
25th Jul '11 7:24:17 PM vifetoile
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* AlternateCharacterInterpratation - Is Falstaff some kind of MagnificentBastard who tests Hal, and is eventually outgrown, or just an old fat drunkard who represents the worst excesses of Hal's youth?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpratation AlternateCharacterInterpretation - Is Falstaff some kind of MagnificentBastard who tests Hal, and is eventually outgrown, or just an old fat drunkard who represents the worst excesses of Hal's youth?
25th Jul '11 7:24:05 PM vifetoile
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* EnsembleDarkhorse - Falstaff

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* AlternateCharacterInterpratation - Is Falstaff some kind of MagnificentBastard who tests Hal, and is eventually outgrown, or just an old fat drunkard who represents the worst excesses of Hal's youth?
* EnsembleDarkhorse - FalstaffFalstaff. To the point that OrsonWelles made a whole movie about him, and eventually ''Queen Elizabeth herself'' requested a play just about Falstaff -- ''TheMerryWivesOfWindsor.''
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