History YMMV / HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban

10th Jun '18 6:56:09 AM nombretomado
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* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The Game Boy Advance version, mostly.

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* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The Game Boy Advance version, mostly.
8th Jun '18 12:59:26 PM StardustSoldier
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* DarkerAndEdgier: ''Much'' more so than the previous two films, signalling the shift in tone for the remainder of the series.
8th Jun '18 12:50:02 PM StardustSoldier
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*** Alfonso's complete redesigning of Hogwarts geography, coupled with the overall more comedic tone the film has compared to the previous two.
*** The general shift in tone, with more openly-comedic moments but a also general DarkerAndEdgier feel that contrast the charmingly whimsical tone of the first two early films. (This is meant to translate the introduction of darker themes in the books as the series went on, but what was so awesome in the books was that it was a progressive, creeping growth that you didn't necessarily notice as you went; making it an abrupt switch invokes borderline-ViewersAreMorons.)
*** Regardless of the actual tone, the fact that the visuals were ''literally'' darker and less colorful, betraying the previous film's skillful color-design that made the world all the more magical.
*** Though a recast was unavoidable due to AuthorExistenceFailure, the radically different [[Creator/MichaelGambon new Dumbledore]] didn't sit too well with quite a few people; for one thing, little effort was made to make him look or act like the Richard Harris portrayal of the first films, even for really basic things like his haircut or trademark gold-rimmed glasses. Indeed, regardless of his ''acting'', Gambon's Dumbledore physically looks even less like his book self than Harris's.

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*** Alfonso's complete redesigning of Hogwarts geography, coupled with as well as the overall more comedic tone the film has compared to the previous two.
*** The
general shift in tone, with more openly-comedic moments but a also a general DarkerAndEdgier feel that contrast contrasts from the charmingly more whimsical tone of the first two early films. (This is was meant to translate the introduction of darker themes in the books as the series went on, but what was so awesome in the books was that it was a progressive, creeping growth that you didn't necessarily notice as you went; making it an abrupt switch invokes borderline-ViewersAreMorons.)
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went, whereas the transition in the films was more abrupt.) Regardless of the actual tone, the fact that the visuals were ''literally'' darker and less colorful, betraying colorful was controversial for people who preferred the previous film's skillful color-design that made the world all the more magical.films' brighter and warmer color-design.
*** Though a recast was unavoidable due to AuthorExistenceFailure, the radically different [[Creator/MichaelGambon new Dumbledore]] didn't sit too well with quite a few people; for one thing, little effort was made to make him look or act like the Richard Harris portrayal of the first films, even for really basic things like his haircut or trademark gold-rimmed glasses. Indeed, regardless of his ''acting'', Gambon's Dumbledore physically looks even less like his book self than Harris's.
8th Jun '18 12:41:44 PM StardustSoldier
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*** Alfonso's complete redesigning of Hogwarts geography, coupled with the overall more comedic tone the film has compared to the previous two, not to mention the ShrunkenHead added to the Knight Bus.

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*** Alfonso's complete redesigning of Hogwarts geography, coupled with the overall more comedic tone the film has compared to the previous two, not to mention the ShrunkenHead added to the Knight Bus.two.
8th Jun '18 12:10:50 PM StardustSoldier
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** '''SIRIUS ''DID'' HIS WAITING! ''TWELVE YEARS'' OF IT! ''IN AZKABAN!!!'''''

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** '''SIRIUS SIRIUS ''DID'' HIS WAITING! ''TWELVE YEARS'' OF IT! ''IN AZKABAN!!!'''''AZKABAN!!!''
8th Jun '18 8:35:57 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The film's drastic changes from the book were not welcome to some.
** Alfonso's complete redesigning of Hogwarts geography, coupled with the overall more comedic tone the film has compared to the previous two, not to mention the ShrunkenHead added to the Knight Bus.
** The excision of the explanation of the identities of Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs, which confused many moviegoers who hadn't read the books. Especially since it would have been relatively simple to slip into [[spoiler: Lupin's final scene]].

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** Many of the
film's drastic changes from the book were not welcome to some.
** Alfonso's complete redesigning of Hogwarts geography, coupled with the overall more comedic tone the film has compared to the previous two, not to mention the ShrunkenHead added to the Knight Bus.
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The excision of the explanation of the identities of Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs, which confused many moviegoers who hadn't read the books. Especially since it would have been relatively simple to slip into [[spoiler: Lupin's final scene]].scene]].
*** The talking ShrunkenHead on the Knight Bus.
*** Ron losing his AwesomeMoment of standing up for Harry in front of a supposedly-murderous Sirius, [[TheDeterminator with a broken leg]], to Hermione, who, unlike Ron, had already had no shortage of moments to shine in the films.
*** The Dementors are growling, hissing, flying ghouls who, while effective for what they are, are just classic horror-monsters as opposed to [[EldritchAbomination disturbing, otherworldly beings]] who didn't ''need'' to pose any physical threat, or even move at any speed, because the ''mental'' effects of their sheer ''presence'' was enough to incapacitate their enemies. The changes to their design and behavior also make them more animalistic, even though they are sentient humanoids in the books  albeit ones much weirder and more threatening than Goblins or Elves.
** Then changes compared to the ''previous'' two films in the series:
*** Alfonso's complete redesigning of Hogwarts geography, coupled with the overall more comedic tone the film has compared to the previous two, not to mention the ShrunkenHead added to the Knight Bus.
*** The general shift in tone, with more openly-comedic moments but a also general DarkerAndEdgier feel that contrast the charmingly whimsical tone of the first two early films. (This is meant to translate the introduction of darker themes in the books as the series went on, but what was so awesome in the books was that it was a progressive, creeping growth that you didn't necessarily notice as you went; making it an abrupt switch invokes borderline-ViewersAreMorons.)
**** Regardless of the actual tone, the fact that the visuals were ''literally'' darker and less colorful, betraying the previous film's skillful color-design that made the world all the more magical.
*** Though a recast was unavoidable due to AuthorExistenceFailure, the radically different [[Creator/MichaelGambon new Dumbledore]] didn't sit too well with quite a few people; for one thing, little effort was made to make him look or act like the Richard Harris portrayal of the first films, even for really basic things like his haircut or trademark gold-rimmed glasses. Indeed, regardless of his ''acting'', Gambon's Dumbledore physically looks even less like his book self than Harris's.
8th Jun '18 8:24:58 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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* BrokenBase: Half the fanbase considers this one of the best (if not the best) Harry Potter film in the franchise, or at least when the Harry Potter films started getting good. The other half considers this movie to be one of the worst (if not the worst) Harry Potter film in the franchise. The film was mostly better received by critics than the first two, although it was the first HP film not to get four stars from Roger Ebert. Also, this is J.K. Rowling's favorite film. General consensus seems to be that the cinematography and visual effects are excellent, but the acting and script bring it down in places.

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* BrokenBase: Half the fanbase considers this one of the best (if not the best) Harry Potter film in the franchise, or at least when the Harry Potter films started getting good. The other half considers this movie to be one of the worst (if not the worst) Harry Potter film in the franchise. The film was mostly better received by critics than the first two, although it was the first HP film not to get four stars from Roger Ebert. Also, this is J.K. Rowling's favorite film. General consensus seems to be that the cinematography and visual effects are excellent, but the acting and script bring it It generally comes down to either "good scripting" vs. "good cinematography" (with the film lacking in places.the former and bountiful in the latter), or "DarkerAndEdgier" vs. "whimsical and fun" (with the film relishing in the former, as opposed to the latter which had endeared audiences to the first two films).
9th May '18 7:53:51 PM dmeagher13
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* HarsherInHindsight: Sirius's infamous line "I DID MY WAITING..TWELVE YEARS OF IT...IN AZKABAN" became this in 2018 with the release of the AllegedlyFreeGame ''Harry Potter: Hogwarts Mystery'', which features an energy meter that, if empty, forces players to wait unless they buy {{Microtransactions}}.
8th May '18 4:34:45 PM StardustSoldier
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* HilariousInHindsight:
** "Awful things happen to wizards who meddle with time, Harry." And in the very next movie, [[Series/DoctorWho a certain time-travelling alien]] gets a FateWorseThanDeath.
** The part where Snape gets insulted by the Marauder's Map after Pottermore revealed that it was designed to do that to Snape and ''only'' Snape, not just anyone who tried to read it without the password.
** In the novel, Hagrid expresses worry that Buckbeak might have encountered [[spoiler:werewolf!Lupin]] in his escape from Hogwarts. As the [[Film/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban movie]] illustrates, Hagrid need not have worried for Beaky's welfare in [[CurbStompBattle such a fight]].
** While discussing Sirius Black Hagrid says that if he had found Sirius before Pettigrew did he would have 'ripped him limb from limb'. Fudge dismisses the idea saying only a squad of top Ministry wizards would have stood a chance against him. Two books later we see a fight between Hagrid and a squad of Aurors. [[spoiler: Hagrid wins. [[CurbStompBattle Easily]]]].



* HilariousInHindsight: "Awful things happen to wizards who meddle with time, Harry." And in the very next movie, [[Series/DoctorWho a certain time-travelling alien]] gets a FateWorseThanDeath.
** The part where Snape gets insulted by the Marauder's Map after Pottermore revealed that it was designed to do that to Snape and ''only'' Snape, not just anyone who tried to read it without the password.
** In the novel, Hagrid expresses worry that Buckbeak might have encountered [[spoiler:werewolf!Lupin]] in his escape from Hogwarts. As the [[Film/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban movie]] illustrates, Hagrid need not have worried for Beaky's welfare in [[CurbStompBattle such a fight]].
** While discussing Sirius Black Hagrid says that if he had found Sirius before Pettigrew did he would have 'ripped him limb from limb'. Fudge dismisses the idea saying only a squad of top Ministry wizards would have stood a chance against him. Two books later we see a fight between Hagrid and a squad of Aurors. [[spoiler: Hagrid wins. [[CurbStompBattle Easily]]]].
* IdiotPlot: The denouement at the end depends on the following characters (Snape, Remus) suddenly forgetting the following details:[[spoiler:Remus is a werewolf, tonight is a full moon, and Remus has to take the Wolfsbane potion. Remus forgets about it entirely, despite the fact that he tok it for the last year [[note]]he specifically says that he isn't too good a potion maker and the Wolfsbane Potion is very complicated, also he was very poor so he probably didn't have the ingredients[[/note]], which can only be explained in a character sense about how seeing Sirius and Peter Pettigrew on the Marauder's Map makes him think differently. Snape however comes ''to Remus room with the Potion'' (which he mentions during their confrontation) and despite having had a traumatic experience in his youth at the Shrieking Shack, still goes down there to meet Remus without having any real backup plan against a werewolf set to transform. Without this contrivance, Peter Pettigrew would not really be able to escape and Sirius still be on the run]].
** Much also depends on the fact that Lupin tied up Pettigrew instead of hitting him with a Petrificus Totalus and moving him along by magic like Sirius did Snape. Of course a conscious Pettigrew would jump on the diversion made by Lupin transforming first chance he gets, grabbing his wand and escaping.

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* HilariousInHindsight: "Awful things happen to wizards who meddle with time, Harry." And in the very next movie, [[Series/DoctorWho a certain time-travelling alien]] gets a FateWorseThanDeath.
** The part where Snape gets insulted by the Marauder's Map after Pottermore revealed that it was designed to do that to Snape and ''only'' Snape, not just anyone who tried to read it without the password.
** In the novel, Hagrid expresses worry that Buckbeak might have encountered [[spoiler:werewolf!Lupin]] in his escape from Hogwarts. As the [[Film/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban movie]] illustrates, Hagrid need not have worried for Beaky's welfare in [[CurbStompBattle such a fight]].
** While discussing Sirius Black Hagrid says that if he had found Sirius before Pettigrew did he would have 'ripped him limb from limb'. Fudge dismisses the idea saying only a squad of top Ministry wizards would have stood a chance against him. Two books later we see a fight between Hagrid and a squad of Aurors. [[spoiler: Hagrid wins. [[CurbStompBattle Easily]]]].
* IdiotPlot: The denouement at the end depends on the following characters (Snape, Remus) suddenly forgetting the following details:[[spoiler:Remus details: [[spoiler:Remus is a werewolf, tonight is a full moon, and Remus has to take the Wolfsbane potion. Remus forgets about it entirely, despite the fact that he tok it for the last year [[note]]he specifically says that he isn't too good a potion maker and the Wolfsbane Potion is very complicated, also he was very poor so he probably didn't have the ingredients[[/note]], which can only be explained in a character sense about how seeing Sirius and Peter Pettigrew on the Marauder's Map makes him think differently. Snape however comes ''to Remus room with the Potion'' (which he mentions during their confrontation) and despite having had a traumatic experience in his youth at the Shrieking Shack, still goes down there to meet Remus without having any real backup plan against a werewolf set to transform. Without this contrivance, Peter Pettigrew would not really be able to escape and Sirius still be on the run]].
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run. Much also depends on the fact that Lupin tied up Pettigrew instead of hitting him with a Petrificus Totalus and moving him along by magic like Sirius did Snape. Of course a conscious Pettigrew would jump on the diversion made by Lupin transforming first chance he gets, grabbing his wand and escaping.]]



** The excision of the explanation of the identities of Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs, which confused many moviegoers who hadn't read the books. Especially since it would have been relatively simple to slip into [[spoiler: Lupin's final scene.]]

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** The excision of the explanation of the identities of Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs, which confused many moviegoers who hadn't read the books. Especially since it would have been relatively simple to slip into [[spoiler: Lupin's final scene.]]scene]].
30th Apr '18 4:39:57 AM StardustSoldier
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* NeverLiveItDown: Among a lot of fans, Snape never quite recovers from this book, even after re-reading the series with all his motivations revealed. He's wildly unprofessional, sadistically and openly cruel even to students like Neville to a level that would have gotten any teacher fired from a real-life school, [[spoiler:was willing to send Sirius to the Dementor's Kiss even after he was open to turning himself in to Dumbledore, and then outed Remus Lupin as a werewolf publicly. Even the revelation from the later books about Sirius bullying Snape as a young man and Snape being loyal all along doesn't vindicate his conduct, since his incompetence, i.e. neglecting to bring or mention the Wolfsbane Potion to Remus after entering the Shack, played a major part in getting Peter escape, a detail that slipped him since he wanted to get back at Sirius and Lupin]]. His behaviour is so bad that the movies had to tone him down to not make him too unsympathetic.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Among a lot of fans, Snape never quite recovers from this book, even after re-reading the series with all his motivations revealed. He's wildly unprofessional, sadistically and openly cruel even to students like Neville to a level that would have gotten any teacher fired from a real-life school, [[spoiler:was willing to send Sirius to the Dementor's Kiss even after he was open to turning himself in to Dumbledore, and then outed Remus Lupin as a werewolf publicly. Even the revelation from the later books about Sirius bullying Snape as a young man and Snape being loyal all along doesn't vindicate his conduct, since his incompetence, i.e. neglecting to bring or mention the Wolfsbane Potion to Remus after entering the Shack, played a major part in getting letting Peter escape, a detail that slipped him since he wanted to get back at Sirius and Lupin]]. His behaviour is so bad that the movies had to tone him down to not make him too unsympathetic.
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