History YMMV / HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban

6th Aug '17 12:17:02 AM JulianLapostat
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** Snape's behaviour in this novel, where he's at his most emotional and unhinged has drawn a lot of views. Notably fans invoke information from later series to explain why he was so personally angry at Lupin. Others however note that his taunting at Harry by using [[spoiler:Lily's own insults about James to the latter, and then having the latter remind him, much as Lily did in ''The Prince's Tale'' that James did save his life, and repeating the same conversation, while in the finale shouting at Harry that James deserved to die because he was too arrogant to trust Sirius is more or less him vicariously trying to argue that Lily was a fool for choosing James]] and wondering WhatDidSheSeeInHim.

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** Snape's behaviour in this novel, where he's at his most emotional and unhinged has drawn a lot of views. Notably fans invoke information from later series to explain why he was so personally angry at Lupin. Others however note that his taunting at Harry by using [[spoiler:Lily's own insults about James to the latter, and then having the latter remind him, much as Lily did in ''The Prince's Tale'' that James did save his life, and repeating the same conversation, while in the finale shouting at Harry that James deserved to die because he was too arrogant to trust Sirius is more or less him vicariously trying to argue that Lily was a fool for choosing James]] and wondering WhatDidSheSeeInHim.WhatDoesSheSeeInHim.
6th Aug '17 12:14:36 AM JulianLapostat
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Sir Cadogan, the portrait that takes over guarding Gryffindor Tower for The Fat Lady after she's attacked by Sirius Black, and whose work style involves setting "ridiculously complicated" passwords, and changing them at least twice a day. Is he stark raving mad, or ProperlyParanoid taken UpToEleven?

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Sir Cadogan, the portrait that takes over guarding Gryffindor Tower for The Fat Lady after she's attacked by Sirius Black, and whose work style involves setting "ridiculously complicated" passwords, and changing them at least twice a day. Is he stark raving mad, or ProperlyParanoid taken UpToEleven?UpToEleven?
** Snape's behaviour in this novel, where he's at his most emotional and unhinged has drawn a lot of views. Notably fans invoke information from later series to explain why he was so personally angry at Lupin. Others however note that his taunting at Harry by using [[spoiler:Lily's own insults about James to the latter, and then having the latter remind him, much as Lily did in ''The Prince's Tale'' that James did save his life, and repeating the same conversation, while in the finale shouting at Harry that James deserved to die because he was too arrogant to trust Sirius is more or less him vicariously trying to argue that Lily was a fool for choosing James]] and wondering WhatDidSheSeeInHim.



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** Snape's over-the-top final rant to Fudge after Sirius escapes, "This has something to do with Potter!" is often invoked as one of his catchphrases.
* NeverLiveItDown: Among a lot of fans, Snape never quite recovers from this book, even after re-reading the series with all his motivations revealed. He's wildly unprofessional, sadistically and openly cruel even to students like Neville to a level that would have gotten any teacher fired from a real-life school, [[spoiler:was willing to send Sirius to the Dementor's Kiss even after he was open to turning himself in to Dumbledore, and then outed Remus Lupin as a werewolf publicly. Even the revelation from the later books about Sirius bullying Snape as a young man and Snape being loyal all along doesn't vindicate his conduct, since his incompetence, i.e. neglecting to bring or mention the Wolfsbane Potion to Remus after entering the Shack, played a major part in getting Peter escape, a detail that slipped him since he wanted to get back at Sirius and Lupin]]. His behaviour is so bad that the movies had to tone him down to not make him too unsympathetic.
25th Jul '17 5:52:58 AM 92
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** While discussing Sirius Black Hagrid says that if he had found Sirius before Pettigrew did he would have 'ripped him limb from limb'. Fudge dismisses the idea saying only a squad of top Ministry wizards would have stood a chance against him. Two books later we see a fight between Hagrid and a squad of Aurors. [[spoiler: Hagrid wins. [[CurbStompBattle Easily]]]].
14th Jun '17 1:35:19 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Sir Cadogan, the portrait that takes over guarding Gryffindor Tower for The Fat Lady after she's attacked by Sirius Black, and whose work style involves setting "ridiculously complicated" passwords, and changing them at least twice a day. Is he stark raving mad, or ProperlyParanoid taken UpToEleven?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Sir Cadogan, the portrait that takes over guarding Gryffindor Tower for The Fat Lady after she's attacked by Sirius Black, and whose work style involves setting "ridiculously complicated" passwords, and changing them at least twice a day. Is he stark raving mad, or ProperlyParanoid taken UpToEleven?
1st May '17 12:43:12 PM PeaceAndLove
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* HilariousInHindsight: In the novel, Hagrid expresses worry that Buckbeak might have encountered [[spoiler:werewolf!Lupin]] in his escape from Hogwarts. As the [[Film/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban movie]] illustrates, Hagrid need not have worried for Beaky's welfare in [[CurbStompBattle such a fight]].


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** In the novel, Hagrid expresses worry that Buckbeak might have encountered [[spoiler:werewolf!Lupin]] in his escape from Hogwarts. As the [[Film/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban movie]] illustrates, Hagrid need not have worried for Beaky's welfare in [[CurbStompBattle such a fight]].
19th Apr '17 8:00:05 PM happilyblue
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** It should be noted that the first two here do serve some purpose in introducing the Fat Lady and the Whomping Willow tree (or just refreshing viewers' memories for those familiar with the series) so that they don't come out of nowhere when they become relevant to the plot. But the frog choir? Yeah that's just straight up Hogwarts BLAM.
10th Feb '17 8:38:41 AM fruitstripegum
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* FridgeBrilliance:
** Snape asks Lupin if Harry might have gotten the Marauder's Map from one of the makers. [[spoiler: Considering he went to school with the Marauders, and was likely insulted by them in the same way as the map (as well as familiar with their nicknames), he probably suspects that Lupin had something to do with the map - which he does]].
** In the film, the music Lupin plays during the Boggart lesson. Seems silly at first but then you realise he's trying to keep the mood light so the students will be able to imagine their worst fears as something comical.
** The first time Ron and Harry notice Hermione has briefly stepped away from them between classes, she changes the subject by voicing her hope that there's something good for lunch, she's starving. Of ''course'' she's starving: [[spoiler:she's just used the Time Turner to live through twice as many hours since breakfast as they did!]]
* FridgeHorror: Harry's textbook poking lighthearted fun at [[BurnTheWitch witch burnings]]. Sure, it was no more than a mild inconvenience for the wizard ([[TooKinkyToTorture one witch liked it so much that she kept allowing herself to be captured]]), but what about those poor Muggles misidentified as witches, who really ''are'' being burned at the stake?
5th Feb '17 12:04:52 PM everlasting
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** Hermione's white face.[[note]]The only line in the entire series indicating Hermione's skin color, used as a justification for fans that don't like the casting of a black actress in Theatre/HarryPotterAndTheCursedChild [[/note]]

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** Hermione's white face.[[note]]The only line in the entire series indicating Hermione's skin color, used as a justification for fans that don't like were surprised the casting of a black actress in Theatre/HarryPotterAndTheCursedChild Theatre/HarryPotterAndTheCursedChild, even though theater casting has always been color-blind like this; for example, there are adaptions that make RomeoAndJuliet black too, even though they are supposed to be medieval Italians.[[/note]]
29th Nov '16 3:34:21 PM fearlessnikki
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* AssPull: The Time Turner. It was foreshadowed but the late act revelation and rigid and hastily explained rules and potential can of worms it could open in terms of possibilities (which went unexplored in the books but not in the wider fandom), made everyone see it as an especially contrived DeusExMachina, that only works because of the EmotionalTorque of Harry unleashing his first fully grown Patronus.



* BaseBreakingCharacter: The Shrunken Head on the Knight Bus. Some find him bizarrely out of place and unnecessary, others find him a nice bit of comic relief. It's worth noting that it was approved by JK Rowling - who prevented Alfonso Cuaron from inserting a choir of tiny people playing the piano.
* BetterThanCanon: The AdaptationExpansion for the Time Turner sequence is widely agreed to be a big improvement over how it was handled in the books. A few readers missed the {{Foreshadowing}}, and thus found the twist to come really out of nowhere. The film expands on this - having Hermione suddenly turning up out of nowhere in classes at points throughout the film. Also the twist [[spoiler: that Harry himself conjures the big Patronus]] is Foreshadowed by having more events influenced by the time travellers - throwing the pumpkin seeds to warn that Fudge is on the way for example.



** The talking ShrunkenHead on the Knight Bus.

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** A lot of screentime is devoted to a blue bird flying through Hogwarts and twittering around; far longer than normal for a scene transition. The talking ShrunkenHead on deleted scenes show that the Knight Bus.sequence ran even longer - with the bird buzzing around Hagrid's head before getting shooed away.



* BrokenBase: Half the fanbase considers this one of the best (if not the best) Harry Potter film in the franchise, or at least when the Harry Potter films started getting good. The other half considers this movie to be one of the worst (if not the worst) Harry Potter film in the franchise. The film was mostly better received by critics than the first two, although it was the first HP film not to get four stars from Roger Ebert. Also, this is J.K. Rowling's favorite film. Particular anger was given to Steve Kloves having his favorite character Hermione steal Ron's big moment of declaring Sirius will have to go through them to get to Harry, despite having a broken leg.

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* BrokenBase: Half the fanbase considers this one of the best (if not the best) Harry Potter film in the franchise, or at least when the Harry Potter films started getting good. The other half considers this movie to be one of the worst (if not the worst) Harry Potter film in the franchise. The film was mostly better received by critics than the first two, although it was the first HP film not to get four stars from Roger Ebert. Also, this is J.K. Rowling's favorite film. Particular anger was given General consensus seems to Steve Kloves having his favorite character Hermione steal Ron's big moment of declaring Sirius will have to go through them to get to Harry, despite having a broken leg.be that the cinematography and visual effects are excellent, but the acting and script bring it down in places.



* GrowingTheBeard: According to most professional critics, along with about [[BrokenBase half]] of the fans. At the very least, people agreed that the younger actors and actresses were finally fitting snugly into their roles (aside from the {{Narm}} mentioned below).

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* GrowingTheBeard: According to most professional critics, along with about [[BrokenBase half]] of the fans. At the very least, people agreed that the younger actors and actresses were finally fitting snugly into their roles (aside from the {{Narm}} mentioned below). What's more is that this was the first film to make deviations from the book in the name of PragmaticAdaptation, paving the way for the future films to do so (without falling into InNameOnly).



* NeverLiveItDown: A lot of the fandom's complaints with Hermione stem from this film. Namely her getting Ron's line standing up to Sirius and her action scene on the Whomping Willow (despite the fact that she gets into a worse scrape than Harry in that one). If the fans ever complained about Steve Cloves turning Hermione into the CreatorsPet, expect this film to be mentioned as the root of it.



* VindicatedByHistory: The film was initially quite divisive for its divergence from the original novel, but now it's one of the most acclaimed and favored films of the eight ''because'' of the huge risk it took, which inspired future films to do the same thing. It opened to the most positive reviews the series had seen thus far, and is the second most acclaimed film of the series on Website/RottenTomatoes -- beaten only by ''Deathly Hallows - Part 2''.
24th Nov '16 1:27:24 AM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* DarkerAndEdgier: ''Much'' more so than the previous two films, signalling the shift in tone for the remainder of the series.
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