History YMMV / HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban

29th Nov '16 3:34:21 PM fearlessnikki
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* AssPull: The Time Turner. It was foreshadowed but the late act revelation and rigid and hastily explained rules and potential can of worms it could open in terms of possibilities (which went unexplored in the books but not in the wider fandom), made everyone see it as an especially contrived DeusExMachina, that only works because of the EmotionalTorque of Harry unleashing his first fully grown Patronus.



* BaseBreakingCharacter: The Shrunken Head on the Knight Bus. Some find him bizarrely out of place and unnecessary, others find him a nice bit of comic relief. It's worth noting that it was approved by JK Rowling - who prevented Alfonso Cuaron from inserting a choir of tiny people playing the piano.
* BetterThanCanon: The AdaptationExpansion for the Time Turner sequence is widely agreed to be a big improvement over how it was handled in the books. A few readers missed the {{Foreshadowing}}, and thus found the twist to come really out of nowhere. The film expands on this - having Hermione suddenly turning up out of nowhere in classes at points throughout the film. Also the twist [[spoiler: that Harry himself conjures the big Patronus]] is Foreshadowed by having more events influenced by the time travellers - throwing the pumpkin seeds to warn that Fudge is on the way for example.



** The talking ShrunkenHead on the Knight Bus.

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** A lot of screentime is devoted to a blue bird flying through Hogwarts and twittering around; far longer than normal for a scene transition. The talking ShrunkenHead on deleted scenes show that the Knight Bus.sequence ran even longer - with the bird buzzing around Hagrid's head before getting shooed away.



* BrokenBase: Half the fanbase considers this one of the best (if not the best) Harry Potter film in the franchise, or at least when the Harry Potter films started getting good. The other half considers this movie to be one of the worst (if not the worst) Harry Potter film in the franchise. The film was mostly better received by critics than the first two, although it was the first HP film not to get four stars from Roger Ebert. Also, this is J.K. Rowling's favorite film. Particular anger was given to Steve Kloves having his favorite character Hermione steal Ron's big moment of declaring Sirius will have to go through them to get to Harry, despite having a broken leg.

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* BrokenBase: Half the fanbase considers this one of the best (if not the best) Harry Potter film in the franchise, or at least when the Harry Potter films started getting good. The other half considers this movie to be one of the worst (if not the worst) Harry Potter film in the franchise. The film was mostly better received by critics than the first two, although it was the first HP film not to get four stars from Roger Ebert. Also, this is J.K. Rowling's favorite film. Particular anger was given General consensus seems to Steve Kloves having his favorite character Hermione steal Ron's big moment of declaring Sirius will have to go through them to get to Harry, despite having a broken leg.be that the cinematography and visual effects are excellent, but the acting and script bring it down in places.



* GrowingTheBeard: According to most professional critics, along with about [[BrokenBase half]] of the fans. At the very least, people agreed that the younger actors and actresses were finally fitting snugly into their roles (aside from the {{Narm}} mentioned below).

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* GrowingTheBeard: According to most professional critics, along with about [[BrokenBase half]] of the fans. At the very least, people agreed that the younger actors and actresses were finally fitting snugly into their roles (aside from the {{Narm}} mentioned below). What's more is that this was the first film to make deviations from the book in the name of PragmaticAdaptation, paving the way for the future films to do so (without falling into InNameOnly).



* NeverLiveItDown: A lot of the fandom's complaints with Hermione stem from this film. Namely her getting Ron's line standing up to Sirius and her action scene on the Whomping Willow (despite the fact that she gets into a worse scrape than Harry in that one). If the fans ever complained about Steve Cloves turning Hermione into the CreatorsPet, expect this film to be mentioned as the root of it.



* VindicatedByHistory: The film was initially quite divisive for its divergence from the original novel, but now it's one of the most acclaimed and favored films of the eight ''because'' of the huge risk it took, which inspired future films to do the same thing. It opened to the most positive reviews the series had seen thus far, and is the second most acclaimed film of the series on Website/RottenTomatoes -- beaten only by ''Deathly Hallows - Part 2''.
24th Nov '16 1:27:24 AM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* DarkerAndEdgier: ''Much'' more so than the previous two films, signalling the shift in tone for the remainder of the series.
16th Oct '16 11:49:39 AM Emreld3000
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* MemeticMutation
** Hermione's white face.[[note]]The only line in the entire series indicating Hermione's skin color, used as a justification for fans that don't like the casting of a black actress in Theatre/HarryPotterAndTheCursedChild [[/note]]
20th Sep '16 4:35:33 PM MontyPythonFanatic2
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* HilariousInHindsight: In the novel, Hagrid expresses worry that Buckbeak might have encountered [[spoiler:werewolf!Lupin]] in his escape from Hogwarts. As the [[Film/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban movie]] illustrates, Hagrid need not have worried for Beaky's welfare in [[CurbStompBattle such a fight]].
9th Sep '16 12:47:54 PM SunriseWarrior
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* GrowingTheBeard: Many fans believe that this is the turning point for the series as a whole, citing the encounter at the Shrieking Shack, the darker emotions and actual feelings of loss Harry feels about his family (that had not been really explored in the previous books) and of course the BittersweetEnding [[spoiler:Sirius is proven innocent to Harry and Dumbledore but remains on the run alongside Buckbeak, and Lupin has to quit, while Harry worries about Trelawney's prophecy and the consequences of sparing Wormtail potentially bringing Voldemort back. Compared to the out-and-out positive victories in the first two books, it was bleaker and prepared for the gradual darkening of the remaining books]].

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* GrowingTheBeard: Many fans believe that this is the turning point for the series as a whole, citing the encounter at the Shrieking Shack, the darker emotions and actual feelings of loss Harry feels about his family (that had not been really explored in the previous books) and of course the BittersweetEnding BittersweetEnding. [[spoiler:Sirius is proven innocent to Harry and Dumbledore but remains on the run alongside Buckbeak, and Lupin has to quit, while Harry worries about Trelawney's prophecy and the consequences of sparing Wormtail potentially bringing Voldemort back. Compared to the out-and-out positive victories in the first two books, it was bleaker and prepared for the gradual darkening of the remaining books]].
3rd Sep '16 5:57:07 PM johnnycade7
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* NarmCharm: "You foul, loathsome, evil little ''cockroach!''" It's a near 50/50 mix of [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome]] and [[{{Narm}} narm.]]

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* NarmCharm: The examples in the above entry, as well as "You foul, loathsome, evil little ''cockroach!''" It's They're a near 50/50 mix of [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome]] and [[{{Narm}} narm.]]
29th Aug '16 10:22:37 AM NoxSky12599
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* AssPull:
** TheReveal that Sirius is [[spoiler: Harry's godfather]] if you think about it. When Harry was given to the Dursleys, Hagrid casually mentioned Sirius, implying that he wasn't accused of selling out the Potters yet, so it would beg the question why Harry wasn't given to him first.
** The Time Turner remains another one. It was foreshadowed but the late act revelation and rigid and hastily explained rules and potential can of worms it could open in terms of possibilities (which went unexplored in the books but not in the wider fandom), made everyone see it as an especially contrived DeusExMachina, that only works because of the EmotionalTorque of Harry unleashing his first fully grown Patronus.

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* AssPull:
** TheReveal that Sirius is [[spoiler: Harry's godfather]] if you think about it. When Harry was given to the Dursleys, Hagrid casually mentioned Sirius, implying that he wasn't accused of selling out the Potters yet, so it would beg the question why Harry wasn't given to him first.
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AssPull: The Time Turner remains another one.Turner. It was foreshadowed but the late act revelation and rigid and hastily explained rules and potential can of worms it could open in terms of possibilities (which went unexplored in the books but not in the wider fandom), made everyone see it as an especially contrived DeusExMachina, that only works because of the EmotionalTorque of Harry unleashing his first fully grown Patronus.
19th Aug '16 8:50:03 AM NoxSky12599
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** Turn to page three-hundred and ninety-four.
13th Aug '16 8:07:16 AM JulianLapostat
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* AssPull: TheReveal that Sirius is [[spoiler: Harry's godfather]] if you think about it. When Harry was given to the Dursleys, Hagrid casually mentioned Sirius, implying that he wasn't accused of selling out the Potters yet, so it would beg the question why Harry wasn't given to him first.

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* AssPull: AssPull:
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TheReveal that Sirius is [[spoiler: Harry's godfather]] if you think about it. When Harry was given to the Dursleys, Hagrid casually mentioned Sirius, implying that he wasn't accused of selling out the Potters yet, so it would beg the question why Harry wasn't given to him first.
** The Time Turner remains another one. It was foreshadowed but the late act revelation and rigid and hastily explained rules and potential can of worms it could open in terms of possibilities (which went unexplored in the books but not in the wider fandom), made everyone see it as an especially contrived DeusExMachina, that only works because of the EmotionalTorque of Harry unleashing his first fully grown Patronus.



* GrowingTheBeard: Many fans believe that this is the turning point for the series as a whole, citing the encounter at the Shrieking Shack as evidence.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Many fans believe that this is the turning point for the series as a whole, citing the encounter at the Shrieking Shack as evidence.Shack, the darker emotions and actual feelings of loss Harry feels about his family (that had not been really explored in the previous books) and of course the BittersweetEnding [[spoiler:Sirius is proven innocent to Harry and Dumbledore but remains on the run alongside Buckbeak, and Lupin has to quit, while Harry worries about Trelawney's prophecy and the consequences of sparing Wormtail potentially bringing Voldemort back. Compared to the out-and-out positive victories in the first two books, it was bleaker and prepared for the gradual darkening of the remaining books]].



* IdiotPlot: The denouement at the end depends on the following characters (Snape, Remus) suddenly forgetting the following details:[[spoiler:Remus is a werewolf, tonight is a full moon, and Remus has to take the Wolfsbane potion. Remus forgets about it entirely, despite the fact that he has lived with it all his life, which can only be explained in a character sense about how seeing Sirius and Peter Pettigrew on the Marauder's Map makes him think differently. Snape however comes ''to Remus room with the Potion'' (which he mentions during their confrontation) and despite having had a traumatic experience in his youth at the Shrieking Shack, still goes down there to meet Remus without having any real backup plan against a werewolf set to transform. Without this contrivance, Peter Pettigrew would not really be able to escape and Sirius have his name cleared]].

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* IdiotPlot: The denouement at the end depends on the following characters (Snape, Remus) suddenly forgetting the following details:[[spoiler:Remus is a werewolf, tonight is a full moon, and Remus has to take the Wolfsbane potion. Remus forgets about it entirely, despite the fact that he has lived with it all his life, which can only be explained in a character sense about how seeing Sirius and Peter Pettigrew on the Marauder's Map makes him think differently. Snape however comes ''to Remus room with the Potion'' (which he mentions during their confrontation) and despite having had a traumatic experience in his youth at the Shrieking Shack, still goes down there to meet Remus without having any real backup plan against a werewolf set to transform. Without this contrivance, Peter Pettigrew would not really be able to escape and Sirius have his name cleared]].still be on the run]].



* OneSceneWonder: Aunt Marge only appears in one chapter, but still manages to be among the more despicable characters in the series, perhaps even more so than her brother Vernon.

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* OneSceneWonder: Aunt Marge only appears in one chapter, chapter (which has her name on it), but still manages to be among the more despicable characters in the series, perhaps even more so than her brother Vernon.
13th Aug '16 6:06:09 AM JulianLapostat
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