History YMMV / HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix

30th Nov '17 1:20:58 PM Silverblade2
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Though fans were pleased to find that Arabella Figg who was mentioned at the end of the last book and the Dursley's neighbor were the same character, many were disappointed that she turned out to be a squib rather than a full witch. Her being a squib also leaves her out of much of the operations of the Order of the Phoenix making her role irrelevant for the rest of the series.
9th Nov '17 9:27:41 PM ThorfinnRowle
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Though fans were pleased to find that Arabella Figg who was mentioned at the end of the last book and the Dursley's neighbor were the same character, many were disappointed that she turned out to be a squib rather than a full witch. Her being a squib also leaves her out of much of the operations of the Order of the Phoenix making her role irrelevant for the rest of the series.
22nd Oct '17 1:08:36 PM nighttrainfm
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** Following the Weasley twins' dramatic exit, Harry overhears one student declaring that they'll "do a Weasley" if classes get any duller.

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** Following the Weasley twins' dramatic exit, Harry overhears one student declaring that they'll "do "I might just do a Weasley" if classes get any duller.
22nd Oct '17 1:08:22 PM nighttrainfm
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* AccidentalInnuendo: Draco makes a barb saying "we'll be ''dogging'' your footsteps" (referencing Sirius turning into a dog). Dogging is a UK slang term for having sex in public places, knowing there are people nearby.

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Draco makes a barb saying "we'll be ''dogging'' your footsteps" (referencing Sirius turning into a dog). Dogging is a UK slang term for having sex in public places, knowing there are people nearby.nearby.
** Following the Weasley twins' dramatic exit, Harry overhears one student declaring that they'll "do a Weasley" if classes get any duller.
15th Oct '17 12:04:24 PM StardustSoldier
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* DesignatedVillain: While Sirius' treatment of Kreacher is painted in a poor light, it should be noted that while he was mostly just grumpy and uncaring towards him and never abused his authority or fired the house elf, Kreacher was the antago nist in their relationship, constantly and unceasingly insulting him and his friends, including calling Hermione a mudblood, and plots his murder at the first opportunity. It's little wonder Sirius doesn't treat him with love and respect. Part of the problem is a House Elf's BlueAndOrangeMorality -- only loyal to those who are kind to them. Sirius hated his house and his family, and that included Kreacher.

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* DesignatedVillain: While Sirius' treatment of Kreacher is painted in a poor light, it should be noted that while he was mostly just grumpy and uncaring towards him and never abused his authority or fired the house elf, Kreacher was the antago nist antagonist in their relationship, constantly and unceasingly insulting him and his friends, including calling Hermione a mudblood, and plots his murder at the first opportunity. It's little wonder Sirius doesn't treat him with love and respect. Part of the problem is a House Elf's BlueAndOrangeMorality -- only loyal to those who are kind to them. Sirius hated his house and his family, and that included Kreacher.
19th Sep '17 10:49:11 AM Malady
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** [[Creator/GaryOldman Sirius Black]] punching [[Creator/JasonIsaacs Lucius Malfoy]] become even more awesome when you realise that it is [[Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy Commissioner Gordon]] punching [[Main/BatmanUnderTheRedHood Ra's Al Ghul]].
** Zacharias Smith's "I don't think Expelliarmus is exactly going to help us against You-Know-Who, do you?", given that this spell [[spoiler: is what finally brings Voldemort down.]]

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** [[Creator/GaryOldman Sirius Black]] punching [[Creator/JasonIsaacs Lucius Malfoy]] become even more awesome when you realise that it is [[Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy Commissioner Gordon]] punching [[Main/BatmanUnderTheRedHood [[WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood Ra's Al Ghul]].
** Zacharias Smith's "I don't think Expelliarmus is exactly going to help us against You-Know-Who, do you?", given that this spell [[spoiler: is [[spoiler:is what finally brings Voldemort down.]]



** Cho for [[spoiler: calling Hermione out on disfiguring her only friend]] and pointing out that she should have told the members of the DA that the sign-up sheet was jinxed.

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** Cho for [[spoiler: calling [[spoiler:calling Hermione out on disfiguring her only friend]] and pointing out that she should have told the members of the DA that the sign-up sheet was jinxed.
29th Aug '17 9:49:59 AM NhazUl
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** Then in the possession scene, Voldemort makes some weird faces in front of what looks to be fast-moving grey clouds, like he's in some 2000s music video. We also see him as Harry's mirror image, wearing Harry's hoodie and all.
24th Aug '17 6:45:19 AM StardustSoldier
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* ContestedSequel: Opinions vary from 'interesting, dark and edgy plot,' to 'overly padded and [[{{Wangst}} melodramatic]].' The interesting elements in the book (Sirius' backstory as a WhiteSheep, the Marauders getting a CerebusRetcon, the Department of Mysteries, the backstory of the Order, Occlumency, Luna Lovegood, the DA) are among the best in the series but most lament that it amounted to NoodleIncident in the end, with very little of it carrying over into the next book, which makes it feel superfluous on the whole.

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* ContestedSequel: Opinions vary from 'interesting, dark and edgy plot,' to 'overly padded and [[{{Wangst}} melodramatic]].' The interesting elements in the book (Sirius' backstory as a WhiteSheep, the Marauders getting a CerebusRetcon, the Department of Mysteries, the backstory of the Order, Occlumency, Luna Lovegood, the DA) are among the best in the series series, but most many lament that it amounted to NoodleIncident in the end, with very how little of it carrying carried over into the next book, which makes making it feel superfluous on the whole.
6th Aug '17 10:37:01 AM JulianLapostat
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** The novel plays Harry's feeling that AdultsAreUseless very straight with Dumbledore at the end admitting that he shouldn't have kept secrets from him all the time. The thing is even leaving aside Voldemort's scar-hotline, Harry is highly hot-tempered, doesn't show his call, repeatedly ignores warnings from people he respects (such as [=McGonagall=] who politely tries to warn him about Umbridge) and then openly gets goaded in front of an entire school to punch an opponent on the Quidditch pitch. Anyone with Harry's form of temperament in real-life would be considered to have a poor personality for any team or organization, leave alone an underground anti-government group.

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** The novel plays Harry's feeling that AdultsAreUseless very straight with Dumbledore at the end admitting that he shouldn't have kept secrets from him all the time. The thing is even leaving aside Voldemort's scar-hotline, Harry is highly hot-tempered, doesn't show any control over his call, emotions, repeatedly ignores warnings from people he respects (such as [=McGonagall=] who politely tries to warn him about Umbridge) and then openly gets goaded in front of an entire school to punch an opponent on the Quidditch pitch. Anyone with Harry's form of temperament in real-life would be considered to have a poor personality for any team or organization, leave alone an underground anti-government group.
6th Aug '17 10:36:24 AM JulianLapostat
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** The novel plays Harry's feeling that AdultsAreUseless very straight with Dumbledore at the end admitting that he shouldn't have kept secrets from him all the time. The thing is even leaving aside Voldemort's scar-hotline, Harry is highly hot-tempered, doesn't show his call, repeatedly ignores warnings from people he respects (such as [=McGonagall=] who politely tries to warn him about Umbridge) and then openly gets goaded in front of an entire school to punch an opponent on the Quidditch pitch. Anyone with Harry's form of temperament in real-life would be considered to have a poor personality for any team or organization, leave alone an underground anti-government group.
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