History YMMV / HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix

24th Jul '16 3:44:43 AM Astatine
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** Far from it- Zacharias is the fandom's ButtMonkey for being an uncooperative, antagonistic prick ''the entire book'', and in Deathly Hallows he even shoves aside first years to escape the Battle of Hogwarts. Seems easy to see why he isn't an EnsembleDarkhorse. Furthermore while his skepticism made sense earlier in the book, by the point of the Quibbler interview it had become very clear that the Ministry was manipulating things at Hogwarts to crush any critical thought outside the Ministry's picture of things, and demonizing Harry and Dumbledore. Not to mention he'd learnt DADA in Dumbledore's Army under Harry, a task he undertook with risk of expulsion, so his decision to trust the Ministry (as represented by the lying, patronizing Umbridge) over Harry (someone obviously a trustworthy and righteous person), effectively calling the person taking serious risks to teach him key cirruculum an attention-whoring liar ''at this stage'' makes him look like an asshole.
16th Jul '16 7:13:02 PM OffTheDeepEnd
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: It's too easy to laugh at [[ButtMonkey Neville's]] constant screw-ups, plus the fact that he lives with a near-tyrannical grandmother. But then in the [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire fourth]] and fifth books, we learn exactly what happened to his mother and father, and how it has affected him. Then we feel guilty for having laughed.
7th Jul '16 9:49:49 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* TheyJustDidntCare: In the film version the heated argument between Molly and Sirius over whether or not Harry is a true member of the Weasley family is played with about as much conviction as a soccer mom ordering UsefulNotes/McDonalds Happy Meals for her kids.
** The scene of Snape's worst memory completely misses the point of ''why'' it was called that; not the bullying, but that he ruined his chances with Lily.
*** Though, in David Yates' defense for Snape's Worst Memory, the movie and ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows'' were released around the same time, and Alan Rickman had to keep quiet about the fact that Snape was in love with Lily.
25th May '16 8:10:28 AM Kingault
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** [[spoiler:Marietta Edgecombe betrays the DA to Umbridge. This activates a secret jinx from Hermione that writes "SNEAK" across her face in boils. Cho considers this a mean trick, and eventually breaks up with Harry over it. Thing is, Marietta]] was motivated by the risk of her mother losing her job at the Ministry, never wanted to join in the first place (Cho pressured her), and it's kind of unethical to trick people into signing a contract that punishes them for betrayal ''without'' telling them. (Heck, Hermione didn't even let her best friends know what would happen until later.) Rowling herself seems to be firmly on Hermione's side; when she confirmed that [[spoiler:Marietta was permanently scarred]], she said "I loathe a traitor." The result: fans sympathize with [[spoiler:Marietta]] more than the series' main characters, much to Rowling's annoyance.

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** [[spoiler:Marietta Edgecombe betrays the DA to Umbridge. This activates a secret jinx from Hermione that writes "SNEAK" across her face in boils. Cho considers this a mean trick, and eventually breaks up with Harry over it. Thing is, Marietta]] was motivated by the risk of her mother losing her job at the Ministry, never wanted to join in the first place (Cho pressured her), and it's kind of unethical to trick people into signing a contract that punishes them for betrayal ''without'' telling them. (Heck, Hermione didn't even let her best friends know what would happen until later.) Rowling herself seems to be firmly on Hermione's side; when she confirmed that [[spoiler:Marietta was permanently scarred]], she said "I loathe a traitor." The result: fans sympathize with [[spoiler:Marietta]] more than the series' series main characters, much to Rowling's annoyance.
25th May '16 8:10:10 AM Kingault
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** [[spoiler:Marietta Edgecombe betrays the DA to Umbridge. This activates a secret jinx from Hermione that writes "SNEAK" across her face in boils. Cho considers this a mean trick, and eventually breaks up with Harry over it. Thing is, Marietta]] was motivated by the risk of her mother losing her job at the Ministry, never wanted to join in the first place (Cho pressured her), and it's kind of unethical to trick people into signing a contract that punishes them for betrayal ''without'' telling them. (Heck, Hermione didn't even let her best friends know what would happen until later.) Rowling herself seems to be firmly on Hermione's side; when she confirmed that [[spoiler:Marietta was permanently scarred]], she said "I loathe a traitor." The result: fans sympathize with [[spoiler:Marietta]] more than the series main characters, much to Rowling's annoyance.

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** [[spoiler:Marietta Edgecombe betrays the DA to Umbridge. This activates a secret jinx from Hermione that writes "SNEAK" across her face in boils. Cho considers this a mean trick, and eventually breaks up with Harry over it. Thing is, Marietta]] was motivated by the risk of her mother losing her job at the Ministry, never wanted to join in the first place (Cho pressured her), and it's kind of unethical to trick people into signing a contract that punishes them for betrayal ''without'' telling them. (Heck, Hermione didn't even let her best friends know what would happen until later.) Rowling herself seems to be firmly on Hermione's side; when she confirmed that [[spoiler:Marietta was permanently scarred]], she said "I loathe a traitor." The result: fans sympathize with [[spoiler:Marietta]] more than the series series' main characters, much to Rowling's annoyance.
27th Apr '16 2:44:04 AM fearlessnikki
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* AbandonShipping / ShipSinking: Harry/Cho was swiftly sunken in this book and along with it nearly all of its supporters.

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Harry/Cho was swiftly sunken in this book and along with it nearly all of its supporters.



* AccidentalInnuendo: Draco makes a barb saying "we'll be ''dogging'' your footsteps" (referencing Sirius turning into a dog). Dogging is a UK slang term for having sex in public places, knowing there are people nearby.



** Because of how little characterization she had, Marietta Edgecomb is subjected to this. Was Cho telling the truth that [[spoiler: she only ratted out the DA because she didn't want her mother to lose her job]], or was Cho lying in order to cover her ass?
*** Or, like [[spoiler:Cho in the movie, was she finally forced to crack under the effects of Veritaserum]]?

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** Because of how little characterization she had, Marietta Edgecomb is subjected to this. Was Cho telling the truth that [[spoiler: she only ratted out the DA because she didn't want her mother to lose her job]], or was Cho lying in order to cover her ass?
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ass? Or, like [[spoiler:Cho in the movie, was she finally forced to crack under the effects of Veritaserum]]?



* {{Narm}}: Some found Harry's meltdown in Dumbledore's office after [[spoiler: Sirius died]] to be this. It looked less like he was venting his anger and more like one of Dudley's temper tantrums in the first book.

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* {{Narm}}: Some found Harry's meltdown in Dumbledore's office after [[spoiler: Sirius died]] to be this. It looked less like he was venting his anger and more like one of Dudley's temper tantrums in the first book. The earlier rant in Grimmauld Place is like this too, with most of Harry's dialogue in block capitals - and some fans have jokingly nicknamed it 'Caps Lock Harry'.
20th Mar '16 2:45:32 PM NNinja
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* RomanticPlotTumor: The whole subplot of Harry trying to get with Cho that has been built up since ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' ended up being completely pointless since [[spoiler: after Harry broke up with her, Cho pretty much got DemotedToExtra]].
15th Jan '16 8:58:24 AM Animeking1108
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** Everything about Umbridge's assignment to Hogwarts. For starters, she's ObviouslyEvil, with her not-so-very subtle disdain for Harry during his trial, [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast the fact that her name is a]] [[PunnyName pun on the word "umbrage"]], and her position allowing her access to the Dementors, you'd think Fudge would keep a sharper eye on her. Another problem is that Harry, or anybody else Umbridge punishes, doesn't just simply report her for her medieval disciplinary methods. Surely, Dumbledore would have believed Harry. While the scar the Black Quill leaves isn't noticeable, it's still there. How many children does Umbridge have to mutilate for somebody to get that she doesn't play for the right team? All of this was to demonstrate how ignorant Fudge was, but that's really going a long way just to give a commentary on politicians.
4th Jan '16 8:10:31 PM pittsburghmuggle
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** Many people realized that the scene with Harry and Ginny eating chocolate in the library was a torpedo heading directly for the Harry/Hermione ship.

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** Many people realized that the scene with Harry and Ginny eating chocolate in the library (in the book) was a torpedo heading directly for the Harry/Hermione ship.
13th Dec '15 8:58:32 PM ArcaneAzmadi
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Many, such as when Harry is ambushed by Slytherins who are angry about their fathers being sent to Azkaban during the ending. They unwisely choose to attack him outside of a compartment filled with DA members, who all rush out and jinx the Slytherins so thoroughly that they apparently resemble slugs.
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