History YMMV / HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire

22nd Jun '17 10:06:27 PM MM_Crusader
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* HarsherInHindsight: After their failed attempt to put their names into the Goblet of Fire, Fred and George get into a fight and one of them can be heard saying "I'll tear your ear off!" to the other. [[spoiler: George ended up losing an ear three books later from a Death Eater]].
10th Jun '17 9:13:33 AM AquaMusic
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* FandomBerserkButton: Do ''not'' ever say Cedric is murdered by [[spoiler:Wormtail a.k.a. Peter Pettigrew]]. Or else, hardcore fans will immediately responds with something like "[[spoiler:Wormtail]] used Voldemort's wand to murder Cedric, and he's under Voldemort's order. So technically, Voldemort is the true murderer."



** Ron notes at the end of "House Elf Liberation Front" that 'Percy wouldn't recognise a joke if it danced naked in front of him, wearing Dobby's tea cosy'. Cut to [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]] where Percy shows he ''does'' recognise and can tell a joke right before [[spoiler: Fred is killed]].

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** Ron notes at the end of "House Elf Liberation Front" that 'Percy wouldn't recognise Percy's inability to recognize a joke if it danced naked in front of him, wearing Dobby's tea cosy'.joke. Cut to [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]] where Percy shows he ''does'' recognise and can tell a joke right before [[spoiler: Fred is killed]].



** Reread this particular book after reading the last one or watching the last movie. Seen it yet? Well, note Fred and George's failing potion to age them. [[spoiler: This is the ''only'' time the two will grow old together...]]

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** Reread this particular book after reading the last one or watching the last movie. Seen it yet? Well, note Fred and George's failing George becoming old due to the potion to age them. failing. [[spoiler: This is the ''only'' time the two will grow old together...together.]]



** This: "Dragons! ... Last year dementors, this year dragons, what are they going to bring into this school next?" Fans all know by now that the next year sees something far worse enter the grounds of Hogwarts School: [[SadistTeacher Dolores Umbridge]] as [[TyrantTakesTheHelm The Tyrant Taking The Helm]].

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** This: "Dragons! ... Last year dementors, this year dragons, what are they going to bring into this school next?" Fans all know by now that the next year sees something far worse enter than any of the grounds of Hogwarts School: above: [[SadistTeacher Dolores Umbridge]] as [[TyrantTakesTheHelm The Tyrant Taking The Helm]].



** Cedric's father after [[spoiler:the death of his son.]]

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** Cedric's father after [[spoiler:the death of his son.]]son]].



* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Harry finding Crouch Sr's body. The scene comes apropos of nothing, has nothing to do with the story anymore, and is never brought up, even in deleted scenes. Harry doesn't even tell Dumbledore about it like he planned. The scene just comes out of nowhere, happens, does nothing to the story, and then is never discussed ever again. Even the mood doesn't fit.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Harry finding Crouch Sr's body. The scene comes apropos of nothing, has nothing to do with the story anymore, and is never brought up, even in deleted scenes.up. Harry doesn't even tell Dumbledore about it like he planned. The scene just comes out of nowhere, happens, does nothing to the story, and then is never discussed ever again. Even the mood doesn't fit. A deleted scene helps to bridge it with the next scene better, however.



* HeReallyCanAct:
** Look at Daniel Radcliffe's crying in ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' after TheReveal that Sirius is his godfather, which is just {{Narm}}-y. But Harry's complete breakdown after [[spoiler:he arrives back at Hogwarts with Cedric's corpse along with the news that Voldemort has returned]]? One of the biggest TearJerker[=s=] in the film series.

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* HeReallyCanAct:
** Look at Daniel Radcliffe's crying in ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' after TheReveal that Sirius is his godfather, which is just {{Narm}}-y. But
HeReallyCanAct: Harry's complete breakdown after [[spoiler:he arrives back at Hogwarts with Cedric's corpse along with the news that Voldemort has returned]]? One of the biggest TearJerker[=s=] in the film series. returned]].



** The Durmstrang are even worse, looking in general like they've just arrived from a military academy stationed in a juvenile prison. And then their Headmaster Igor Karkarov and prized student Viktor Krum enter, looking perpetually pissed at everything for no reason.

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** The Durmstrang are even worse, students entrance could count too, as they come in looking in general like they've just arrived from a military academy stationed in a juvenile prison. And then their Headmaster Igor Karkarov and prized student Viktor Krum enter, looking perpetually pissed at everything for no reason.
9th Jun '17 11:38:06 PM AquaMusic
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** Both Harry and Cedric are initially outraged that the Quidditch pitch has been turned into a maze for the third task. Bagman reassures them that they'll have their pitch back once the task is over. What's harsh is that [[spoiler: Cedric never gets to see the Quidditch pitch back to normal, since he is killed by Voldemort and Wormtail during the Task.]]

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** Both Harry and Cedric are initially outraged that the Quidditch pitch has been turned into a maze for the third task. Bagman reassures them task; they're assured that they'll have their pitch back once the task is over. What's harsh is that [[spoiler: Cedric never gets to see the Quidditch pitch back to normal, since he is killed by Voldemort and Wormtail during the Task.]]



** After the First Task, when Madam Pomfrey, the school nurse, is attending to the Champions' wounds, she exclaims, "Dragons! ... Last year dementors, this year dragons, what are they going to bring into this school next?" Fans all know by now that the next year would see something far worse enter the grounds of Hogwarts School: [[SadistTeacher Professor Umbridge]] as [[TyrantTakesTheHelm The Tyrant Taking The Helm]].

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** After the First Task, when Madam Pomfrey, the school nurse, is attending to the Champions' wounds, she exclaims, This: "Dragons! ... Last year dementors, this year dragons, what are they going to bring into this school next?" Fans all know by now that the next year would see sees something far worse enter the grounds of Hogwarts School: [[SadistTeacher Professor Dolores Umbridge]] as [[TyrantTakesTheHelm The Tyrant Taking The Helm]].



** "Can I have a look at Uranus too, Lavender?" You'll get your chance, Ron, when [[spoiler: you start dating her in Book 6.]]

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** "Can I have a look at Uranus too, Lavender?" You'll get your chance, Ron, when [[spoiler: you start dating her in Book 6.]]
9th Jun '17 11:34:42 PM AquaMusic
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6th Jun '17 11:57:02 AM NNinja
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* IdiotBall: A common criticism of the villain's plot in this book is that [[spoiler:Bartemius Crouch Jr. was too dumb to just use a normal object as a portkey instead of the Triwizard Cup to transport Harry to Little Hangleton graveyard. And for having Harry use said portkey in the most publicized event in Hogwarts history, as opposed to the privacy of his own office.]]



* ShipSinking: [[spoiler: Cedric and Cho]]. Despite this book launching their ship, it's torpedoed at the end when [[spoiler: Cedric is killed]].
1st Jun '17 2:25:37 PM Existing87
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* AcceptableTargets: Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. Implied association of his weight with parental indulgence, his comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George's playful hope for a glimpse of the overweight lad, and Fred's slipping him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]] treat obesity as a morbid character flaw, deserving of droll contempt.Years later, Rowling, [[MenAreTheExpendableGender outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick"]].
28th May '17 10:37:50 PM Existing87
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* AcceptableTargets: Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, implicitly associated with decadence, is treated with some seriousness, but is still ultimately PlayedForLaughs. His comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George's playful hope for a glimpse of the overweight lad, and Fred's slipping him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]] portray child obesity with a complacent, mocking contempt. This from an author who claims to "detest all forms on intolerance," and later [[MenAreTheExpendableGender condemned fat-bashing in defence of girls under pressure to be thin]].
28th May '17 6:51:17 PM Existing87
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* AcceptableTargets: Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, implicitly associated with decadence, is treated with some seriousness, but is still ultimately PlayedForLaughs. His comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George's playful hope for a glimpse of the overweight lad, and Fred's slipping him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]] portray child obesity with a complacent, mocking contempt. This from an author who claims to "detest all forms on intolerance," and later [[MenAreTheExpendableGender condemned fat-bashing in defence of girls pressured to be thin.]]

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* AcceptableTargets: Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, implicitly associated with decadence, is treated with some seriousness, but is still ultimately PlayedForLaughs. His comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George's playful hope for a glimpse of the overweight lad, and Fred's slipping him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]] portray child obesity with a complacent, mocking contempt. This from an author who claims to "detest all forms on intolerance," and later [[MenAreTheExpendableGender condemned fat-bashing in defence of girls pressured under pressure to be thin.]]thin]].
28th May '17 4:20:20 PM Existing87
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* AcceptableTargets: Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, implicitly associated with decadence, is treated with some seriousness, but is still ultimately PlayedForLaughs. His comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George's playful hope for a glimpse of the overweight lad, and Fred's slipping him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]] portray child obesity with a complacent, mocking contempt. This from an author who claims to "detest all forms on intolerance," and later [[MenAreTheExpendableGender condemned fat-bashing in defence of girls pressured to be thin.]]
16th May '17 6:00:18 PM rjd1922
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** Overlapping with HarsherInHindsight: Filch putting on music as Professor Mc Gonagall dances with Ron can remind many of [[GameOfThrones Walder Frey]] (portrayed by David Bradley) ordering to play "The Rains of Castamere" during the Red Wedding.

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** Overlapping with HarsherInHindsight: Filch putting on music as Professor Mc Gonagall [=McGonagall=] dances with Ron can remind many of [[GameOfThrones [[Series/GameOfThrones Walder Frey]] (portrayed by David Bradley) ordering to play "The Rains of Castamere" during the Red Wedding.



* IdiotBall: A common criticism of the villain's plot in this book is that [[spoiler: Bartemius Crouch Jr. was too dumb to just use a normal object as a portkey instead of the Triwizard Cup to transport Harry to Little Hangleton graveyard. And for having Harry use said portkey in the most publicized event in Hogwarts history, as opposed to the privacy of his own office. And, since he can apparently enter Harry into a Binding Magical Contract against his will, not entering him into one which compels him to take a walk off a cliff.]]

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* IdiotBall: A common criticism of the villain's plot in this book is that [[spoiler: Bartemius [[spoiler:Bartemius Crouch Jr. was too dumb to just use a normal object as a portkey instead of the Triwizard Cup to transport Harry to Little Hangleton graveyard. And for having Harry use said portkey in the most publicized event in Hogwarts history, as opposed to the privacy of his own office. And, since he can apparently enter Harry into a Binding Magical Contract against his will, not entering him into one which compels him to take a walk off a cliff.]]
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