History YMMV / HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire

21st Nov '16 2:48:47 AM fearlessnikki
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Ron notes at the end of "House Elf Liberation Front" that 'Percy wouldn't recognise a joke if it danced naked in front of him, wearing Dobby's tea cosy'. Cut to [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]] where Percy shows he ''does'' recognise and can tell a joke right before [[spoiler: Fred is killed]].

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Ron notes at the end of "House Elf Liberation Front" that 'Percy wouldn't recognise a joke if it danced naked in front of him, wearing Dobby's tea cosy'. Cut to [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]] where Percy shows he ''does'' recognise and can tell a joke right before [[spoiler: Fred is killed]].



** Early on in the book Moody's offscreen EstablishingCharacterMoment is an amusing story about commotion in his backyard - with him apparently jinxing dustbins. [[spoiler: We later find out this was actually Barty Crouch Jr attacking him so he could impersonate him for the year]].



* HarsherInHindsight: When Sirius meets up with the Trio, Hermione keeps going on about how badly Winky was treated by Crouch. When Ron tells her to give it a rest, Sirius remarks that the best way to tell a man's character is to see how he treats his inferiors, not his equals. [[{{Hypocrite}} Less than a year later he'll be treating his own house-elf, Kreacher, like dirt on his shoe.]]

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When Sirius meets up with the Trio, Hermione keeps going on about how badly Winky was treated by Crouch. When Ron tells her to give it a rest, Sirius remarks that the best way to tell a man's character is to see how he treats his inferiors, not his equals. [[{{Hypocrite}} Less than a year later he'll be treating his own house-elf, Kreacher, like dirt on his shoe.]]



* HilariousInHindsight: After the First Task, when Madam Pomfrey, the school nurse, is attending to the Champions' wounds, she exclaims, "Dragons! ... Last year dementors, this year dragons, what are they going to bring into this school next?" Fans all know by now that the next year would see something far worse enter the grounds of Hogwarts School: [[SadistTeacher Professor Umbridge]] as [[TyrantTakesTheHelm The Tyrant Taking The Helm]].

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After the First Task, when Madam Pomfrey, the school nurse, is attending to the Champions' wounds, she exclaims, "Dragons! ... Last year dementors, this year dragons, what are they going to bring into this school next?" Fans all know by now that the next year would see something far worse enter the grounds of Hogwarts School: [[SadistTeacher Professor Umbridge]] as [[TyrantTakesTheHelm The Tyrant Taking The Helm]].



** The fans' uproar over Hermione wearing pink instead of blue to the Yule Ball. Fast forward to ''Literature/BalletShoes'' where a small fuss is made over Pauline (Emma's character) getting a blue gown for a premiere. So fans finally get to see Emma wearing blue at a formal occasion.

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** The fans' uproar over Hermione wearing pink instead of blue to the Yule Ball. Fast forward to ''Literature/BalletShoes'' where a small fuss is made over Pauline (Emma's character) getting a blue gown for a premiere. So fans finally get to see Emma wearing blue at a formal occasion. And then she stars in ''Film/BeautyAndTheBeast2017'' as a heroine whose dress is iconically blue - and this time in the SheCleansUpNicely moment the dress stays the same colour as it was in the original.



** Harry Potter, too, for the same reason.
*** Harry gets hit with this earlier in the book: After being chosen as Champion his life quickly goes to crap: The other three houses turn against him, believing he put his name in to snatch more glory for himself and even Ron buys into this. This image isn't help by Rita Skeeter's article glorifying Harry using mostly made up garbage, which causes Harry to snap at his crush Cho and only drives a further wedge between him and Ron. Oh and on top of all of this he has to fight a ferocious dragon with only a day to prepare. All for an honor he didn't want and would gladly give up if he could.

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** Harry Potter, too, for the same reason.
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Harry gets hit with this earlier in the book: After being chosen as Champion his life quickly goes to crap: The other three houses turn against him, believing he put his name in to snatch more glory for himself and even Ron buys into this. This image isn't help by Rita Skeeter's article glorifying Harry using mostly made up garbage, which causes Harry to snap at his crush Cho and only drives a further wedge between him and Ron. Oh and on top of all of this he has to fight a ferocious dragon with only a day to prepare. All for an honor he didn't want and would gladly give up if he could.



*** In all fairness, Draco probably doesn't object to someone calling his father vile and cruel because he, deep down at least, knows it is true... Malfoy getting incensed by Potter calling him pathetic makes sense, both because he despises Harry and as such can't let him insult him, and also because deep down he knows that the last barb was true as well and hates himself for it.



** And before the rather lackluster argument between Ron and Hermione, there's Hermione's fairly underwhelming BeautifulAllAlong debut at the ball - she pokes her head out shyly from behind the corner, slowly emerges (her Yule Ball dress changed from the periwinkle blue of the book to an unflattering shade of pink, probably to stand out against the blue background), and then we see her descend from the top of an unnaturally tall windy staircase as if she were a Disney princess (and the scene does feel rather reminiscent of the end of 1959's ''Disney/SleepingBeauty'') and Harry smiles in surprise as she descends before Ron gets a look at her. It's supposed to be really breathtaking, but despite all the fancy lighting tricks and sickeningly sweet fairy tale music, like so many similar scenes in big splashy Hollywood films before and after it, the scene just falls horribly flat...due mostly to the fact that Creator/EmmaWatson is just too naturally cute for it to work - never mind that none of the filmmakers ever did a particularly effective job of trying to make her look plain or ordinary before this film. It really does feel like it's just the same girl from all the previous scenes (and previous films) in a dress with a slightly different hairstyle; even Daniel Radcliffe (Harry's actor) lampshaded it in an interview.
*** The fact that Hermione's altered dress makes her look like Princess Bubble-Yum just makes the scene (and her part in the Yule Ball) look and feel even more ridiculous.

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** And before the rather lackluster argument between Ron and Hermione, there's Hermione's fairly underwhelming BeautifulAllAlong debut at the ball - she pokes her head out shyly from behind the corner, slowly emerges (her Yule Ball dress changed from the periwinkle blue of the book to an unflattering shade of pink, probably to stand out against the blue background), and then we see her descend from the top of an unnaturally tall windy staircase as if she were a Disney princess (and the scene does feel SheCleansUpNicely moment is rather reminiscent of watered down compared to the end of 1959's ''Disney/SleepingBeauty'') and Harry smiles in surprise as she descends book, if only because Emma Watson hadn't exactly been dressed down before Ron gets a in the films. So she doesn't look at her. It's supposed to be really breathtaking, but despite all the fancy lighting tricks and sickeningly sweet fairy tale music, like so many similar scenes in big splashy Hollywood films before and after it, the scene just falls horribly flat...due mostly to the fact that Creator/EmmaWatson is just too naturally cute for it to work - never mind that none of the filmmakers ever did a particularly effective job of trying to make her look plain or ordinary before this film. It really does different, making Harry's jaw-dropping expression feel like it's just the same girl from all the previous scenes (and previous films) in a dress with a slightly different hairstyle; even Daniel Radcliffe (Harry's actor) lampshaded it in an interview.huge overreaction.
*** The fact that Hermione's altered dress makes her look like Princess Bubble-Yum just makes ** There's also the scene (and her part in the Yule Ball) look moment where Hermione snaps at Harry too and feel even more ridiculous. says "off to bed, both of you!"



** Dumbledore's speech at the end is filled with cliches in the style of "you all knew him" and DamnedByFaintPraise in regards to Cedric, especially in comparison to the more solemn but realistic speech in the book. To be fair though, it could be an invoked, in-universe example. One could interpret this as Dumbledore being preoccupied with the consequences of the situation, especially given it only sounds hollow and insincere until the end, in which he sounds genuinely heartbroken.


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* NarmCharm: Although the SheCleansUpNicely scene has its share of Narm, the shot of Hermione nervously peaking out from behind the wall and descending the stairs is still rather cute - especially for the {{Adorkable}} expression on Emma Watson's face.
16th Nov '16 10:13:59 AM theenglishman
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** In this book, the villain [[spoiler:disguises himself as a high-profile Auror]] to avoid detection. It looks like someone was taking notes from [[Film/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem another powerful Dark Wizard from before his time]].
12th Nov '16 2:42:46 PM rafi
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** Overlapping with HarsherInHindsight: Filch putting on music as Professor McGonagall dances with Ron can remind many of [[GameOfThrones Walder Frey]] (portrayed by David Bradley) ordering to play "The Rains of Castamere" during the Red Wedding.

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** Overlapping with HarsherInHindsight: Filch putting on music as Professor McGonagall Mc Gonagall dances with Ron can remind many of [[GameOfThrones Walder Frey]] (portrayed by David Bradley) ordering to play "The Rains of Castamere" during the Red Wedding.



* HeReallyCanAct: Look at Daniel Radcliffe's crying in ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' after TheReveal that Sirius is his godfather, which is just {{Narm}}-y. But Harry's complete breakdown after [[spoiler:he arrives back at Hogwarts with Cedric's corpse along with the news that Voldemort has returned]]? One of the biggest TearJerker[=s=] in the film series.

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Look at Daniel Radcliffe's crying in ''Prisoner of Azkaban'' after TheReveal that Sirius is his godfather, which is just {{Narm}}-y. But Harry's complete breakdown after [[spoiler:he arrives back at Hogwarts with Cedric's corpse along with the news that Voldemort has returned]]? One of the biggest TearJerker[=s=] in the film series.
29th Oct '16 2:48:43 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The presence of Creator/DavidTennant and Creator/RobertPattinson both appeared in this movie before becoming famous in ''Series/DoctorWho'' and ''Literature/{{Twilight}}''.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: The presence of Creator/DavidTennant and Creator/RobertPattinson both appeared in this movie before becoming famous in ''Series/DoctorWho'' and ''Literature/{{Twilight}}''.
29th Oct '16 2:48:24 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The presence of Creator/DavidTennant and Creator/RobertPattinson both appeared in this movie before becoming famous in ''Series/DoctorWho'' and ''Literature/{{Twilight}}''.
11th Oct '16 5:14:26 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* RetroactiveRecognition:
** Hey, it's [[Series/DoctorWho the Tenth Doctor]] as Barty Crouch Jr.!
** [[Literature/{{Twilight}} Edward Cullen]] is Cedric Diggory.

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** Hey, it's [[Series/DoctorWho
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kills [[Literature/{{Twilight}} Edward Cullen]] is Cedric Diggory.Cullen]]" jokes.
6th Oct '16 3:44:54 PM TheNaiveSkeptic
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*** In all fairness, Draco probably doesn't object to someone calling his father vile and cruel because he, deep down at least, knows it is true... Malfoy getting incensed by Potter calling him pathetic makes sense, both because he despises Harry and as such can't let him insult him, and also because deep down he knows that the last barb was true as well and hates himself for it.
31st Aug '16 1:34:03 PM Ciara25
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* IdiotPlot: The only reason given for Harry participating is to bait out whoever put his name in the Goblet; he wasn't interested in participating even if it wasn't age restricted. The villains' plot relied on everyone playing along, and would have been thwarted completely if Harry did ''nothing''. And yet none of the staff of Hogwarts or Harry's friends (ostensibly both interested in his welfare) suggest he do anything other than walk into what is an incredibly obvious trap.

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* IdiotPlot: The only reason given for Harry participating is to bait out whoever put his name in the Goblet; he wasn't interested in participating even if it wasn't age restricted. The villains' plot relied on everyone playing along, and would have been thwarted completely if Harry did ''nothing''. And yet none of the staff of Hogwarts or Harry's friends (ostensibly both interested in his welfare) suggest he do anything other than walk into what is an incredibly obvious trap. [[spoiler: To be fair, the Imperioed Mr. Crouch points out that harry has to take part, since it's a legally binding contract, but it's still infuriating how no one voices much of an objection to it.]]
12th Aug '16 5:53:58 AM Pren
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* PanderingToTheBase: A minor example, as this was the first book written after the series became big in America, and got Rowling deluged with questions about how to pronounce Hermione's name (it was also before the films started). So the scene where she tries to teach Viktor Krum how to pronounce it was intended directly for her new American fans.
4th Aug '16 1:30:45 PM Forenperser
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Barty Crouch Jr. While it is true that he was neglected by his father, this still doesn't excuse anything he did. Many fans however seem to differ.


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* RonTheDeathEater: Barty Crouch Sr. is often vilified to an extreme degree. While he was a KnightTemplar, he was still on the side of the good guys and vital in defeating Voldemort's forces.
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