History YMMV / HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire

4th Apr '16 2:46:24 PM Technicolourtardis
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* KudzuPlot: Not noticeable at first, but the movie cut so many plot elements from the book that the movie actually is just a bunch of things happening with only illusory connection, not helped by downplaying scenes that should have been played out in favour of putting in irrelevant scenes (such as entirely omitting Harry's isolation between Halloween and the First Task nearly a month later in favour scenes like Yule Ball dance practice). As such, many things go totally unexplained or lead nowhere. Rita Skeeter in particular has no purpose in the story, as much of the emotional chaos she caused is cut.
5th Feb '16 5:09:54 PM MyFinalEdits
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* FandomNod: The pronunciation of "Hermione", which was finally clarified by Hermione herself in this book -- then [[Film/HarryPotter the films]] were released, so everyone knew how to pronounce it anyway.
5th Feb '16 3:10:27 PM TheMightyHeptagon
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* GeniusBonus: The Durmstrang Institute's name is a {{spoonerism}} of the German phrase ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturm_und_Drang Sturm und Drang]]'', the name of an 18th century Proto-Romantic literary movement known for its glorification of subjective human emotion and experience over the cold rationalism that characterized the Enlightenment. It's a fitting name for a Scandinavian school for wizards, which teaches Magic that that can't necessarily be understood rationally. Particularly since the most famous ''Sturm und Drang'' participant was Creator/JohannWolfgangVonGoethe, the author of ''Theatre/{{Faust}}''--a play about a German mystical scholar who dabbles in the Dark Arts in his quest for knowledge.
29th Jan '16 8:43:43 AM GothicProphet
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20th Jan '16 10:33:11 AM Larkmarn
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* IdiotPlot: The only reason given for Harry participating is to bait out whoever put his name in the Goblet; he wasn't interested in participating even if it wasn't age restricted. The villains' plot relied on everyone playing along, and would have been thwarted completely if Harry did ''nothing''.

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* IdiotPlot: The only reason given for Harry participating is to bait out whoever put his name in the Goblet; he wasn't interested in participating even if it wasn't age restricted. The villains' plot relied on everyone playing along, and would have been thwarted completely if Harry did ''nothing''. And yet none of the staff of Hogwarts or Harry's friends (ostensibly both interested in his welfare) suggest he do anything other than walk into what is an incredibly obvious trap.
20th Jan '16 9:56:51 AM HighCrate
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* IdiotBall: A common criticism of the villain's plot in this book is that [[spoiler: Bartemius Crouch Jr. was too dumb to just use a normal object as a portkey instead of the Triwizard Cup to transport Harry to Little Hangleton graveyard. And for having Harry use said portkey in the most publicized event in Hogwarts history, as opposed to the privacy of his own office[[note]]This is explained by pointing out that, since Voldemort planned to kill him, it would be easier to make look like an accident[[/note]].]]

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* IdiotBall: A common criticism of the villain's plot in this book is that [[spoiler: Bartemius Crouch Jr. was too dumb to just use a normal object as a portkey instead of the Triwizard Cup to transport Harry to Little Hangleton graveyard. And for having Harry use said portkey in the most publicized event in Hogwarts history, as opposed to the privacy of his own office[[note]]This is explained by pointing out that, office. And, since Voldemort planned he can apparently enter Harry into a BindingMagicalContract against his will, not entering him into one which compels him to kill him, it would be easier to make look like an accident[[/note]].take a walk off a cliff.]]
2nd Jan '16 1:16:46 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* IdiotPlot: The only reason given for Harry participating is to bait out whoever put his name in the Goblet; he wasn't interested in participating even if it wasn't age restricted. The villains' plot relied on everyone playing along, and would have been thwarted completely if Harry did ''nothing''.
28th Nov '15 11:39:18 PM phineas81707
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* IdiotBall: The whole plot of the book hinges on the fact that [[spoiler: Bartemius Crouch Jr. was too dumb to just use a normal object as a portkey instead of the Triwizard Cup to transport Harry to Little Hangleton graveyard. And for having Harry use said portkey in the most publicized event in Hogwarts history, as opposed to the privacy of his own office. And, since he can apparently enter Harry into a BindingMagicalContract against his will, not entering him into one which compels him to take a walk off a cliff.]]

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* IdiotBall: The whole plot A common criticism of the villain's plot in this book hinges on the fact is that [[spoiler: Bartemius Crouch Jr. was too dumb to just use a normal object as a portkey instead of the Triwizard Cup to transport Harry to Little Hangleton graveyard. And for having Harry use said portkey in the most publicized event in Hogwarts history, as opposed to the privacy of his own office. And, office[[note]]This is explained by pointing out that, since he can apparently enter Harry into a BindingMagicalContract against his will, not entering him into one which compels him Voldemort planned to take a walk off a cliff.kill him, it would be easier to make look like an accident[[/note]].]]



%%* MagnificentBastard: Voldemort and Barty Crouch Jr.

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%%* * MagnificentBastard: Voldemort and Barty Crouch Jr.Jr. With the information coerced from Bertha Jorkins about a month before the actual event, Voldemort was able to concoct a plan to not only seize ''the'' Harry Potter's blood and use it for his revival, but recruit a Death Eater that was long since believed dead. Barty Crouch Jr. not only successfully escorted a BookDumb 14-year-old through a dangerous tournament designed for 17-year-olds, but also did so without drawing any suspicion to himself, disguised as ''the'' Death-Eater-hating Auror himself. Not only that, but even though Harry escaped Little Hangleton, the plan Voldemort came up with made sure that the wider wizarding world didn't believe his comeback until a year later: not the success he envisioned, but still incredibly useful.
24th Nov '15 3:16:15 PM HighCrate
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* IdiotPlot: The whole plot of the book hinges on the fact that [[spoiler: Bartemius Crouch Jr. was too dumb to just use a normal object as a portkey instead of the Triwizard Cup to transport Harry to Little Hangleton graveyard. And for having Harry use said portkey in the most publicized event in Hogwarts history, as opposed to the privacy of his own office.]]
** [[spoiler:The justification was that Voldemort was trying to make Harry's death look like an accident. In a highly dangerous tournament, that'd be easy to pass off. Even if Dumbledore guesses that it's a murder anyway, due to Harry being somehow put in the tournament against his will, they wouldn't be able to tell that Voldemort did it.]]

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* IdiotPlot: IdiotBall: The whole plot of the book hinges on the fact that [[spoiler: Bartemius Crouch Jr. was too dumb to just use a normal object as a portkey instead of the Triwizard Cup to transport Harry to Little Hangleton graveyard. And for having Harry use said portkey in the most publicized event in Hogwarts history, as opposed to the privacy of his own office.]]
** [[spoiler:The justification was that Voldemort was trying to make Harry's death look like an accident. In a highly dangerous tournament, that'd be easy to pass off. Even if Dumbledore guesses that it's a murder anyway, due to
And, since he can apparently enter Harry being somehow put in the tournament into a BindingMagicalContract against his will, they wouldn't be able not entering him into one which compels him to tell that Voldemort did it.]]take a walk off a cliff.]]



* MagnificentBastard: Voldemort and Barty Crouch Jr.

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* %%* MagnificentBastard: Voldemort and Barty Crouch Jr.
12th Nov '15 5:14:40 PM nombretomado
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** The whole fact that Harry's incredibly handsome rival Hogwarts champion is played in [[Film/HarryPotter the movie]] by [[Literature/{{Twilight}} future Edward Cullen]]. And really, the rivalry between Harry's supporters and Cedric's supporters could easily be compared to the FandomRivalry between ''Harry Potter'' and ''Twilight'' -- particularly the way in which Harry and Cedric (a.k.a. DanielRadcliffe and RobertPattinson) are nothing but civil to each other while each has fans who volatilely bash their hero's rival. It doesn't help that Cedric first makes an appearance by ''jumping out of a tree''. Maybe, he was bothered? His ghost is also sparkling.

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** The whole fact that Harry's incredibly handsome rival Hogwarts champion is played in [[Film/HarryPotter the movie]] by [[Literature/{{Twilight}} future Edward Cullen]]. And really, the rivalry between Harry's supporters and Cedric's supporters could easily be compared to the FandomRivalry between ''Harry Potter'' and ''Twilight'' -- particularly the way in which Harry and Cedric (a.k.a. DanielRadcliffe Creator/DanielRadcliffe and RobertPattinson) Creator/RobertPattinson) are nothing but civil to each other while each has fans who volatilely bash their hero's rival. It doesn't help that Cedric first makes an appearance by ''jumping out of a tree''. Maybe, he was bothered? His ghost is also sparkling.
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