History YMMV / HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire

20th May '18 6:48:08 PM Existing87
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** Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. Implied association in [[Literature/HarryPotterandthePhilosophersStone previous]] [[Literature/HarryPotterandtheChamberofSecrets books]] of his weight with parental indulgence, his comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George's playful hope for a glimpse of the "great bullying git," and Fred slipping him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]] seem to dismiss obesity as idleness. Years later, Rowling, [[DoubleStandard outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick]]."

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** Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. Implied association in [[Literature/HarryPotterandthePhilosophersStone previous]] [[Literature/HarryPotterandtheChamberofSecrets books]] of his weight with parental indulgence, his comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George's playful hope for a glimpse of the "great bullying git," and Fred slipping him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]] seem to dismiss obesity as idleness. Years later, Rowling, [[Creator/JKRowling Rowling]], [[DoubleStandard outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick]]."
11th May '18 12:17:09 PM Existing87
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** Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. There is an implied association of his weight with parental indulgence, he has comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George express playful hope for a glimpse of the "great bullying git," and Fred slips him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]]. Years later, Rowling, [[DoubleStandard outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick]]."

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** Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. There is an implied Implied association in [[Literature/HarryPotterandthePhilosophersStone previous]] [[Literature/HarryPotterandtheChamberofSecrets books]] of his weight with parental indulgence, he has his comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George express George's playful hope for a glimpse of the "great bullying git," and Fred slips slipping him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]].tongue]] seem to dismiss obesity as idleness. Years later, Rowling, [[DoubleStandard outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick]]."
11th May '18 12:07:51 PM Existing87
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** Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. There is an implied association of his weight with parental indulgence, he has comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George express playful hope for a glimpse of the "great bullying git," and Fred slips him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]]. Years later, Rowling, [[DoubleStandard outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick."

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** Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. There is an implied association of his weight with parental indulgence, he has comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George express playful hope for a glimpse of the "great bullying git," and Fred slips him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]]. Years later, Rowling, [[DoubleStandard outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick.sick]]."
11th May '18 12:07:23 PM Existing87
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** Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. There is an implied association of his weight with parental indulgence, he has comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George express playful hope for a glimpse of the "great bullying git," and Fred slips him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]].

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** Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. There is an implied association of his weight with parental indulgence, he has comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George express playful hope for a glimpse of the "great bullying git," and Fred slips him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]]. Years later, Rowling, [[DoubleStandard outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick."
8th May '18 5:55:15 PM StardustSoldier
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** Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. Implied association of his weight with parental indulgence, his comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George's playful hope for a glimpse of the "great bullying git," and Fred's slipping him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]] treat obesity as a morbid character flaw, deserving of droll contempt. Years later, Rowling, [[DoubleStandard outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick"]].

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** Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. Implied There is an implied association of his weight with parental indulgence, his he has comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George's George express playful hope for a glimpse of the "great bullying git," and Fred's slipping Fred slips him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]] treat obesity as a morbid character flaw, deserving of droll contempt. Years later, Rowling, [[DoubleStandard outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick"]].tongue]].
8th May '18 4:42:43 PM StardustSoldier
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* JerkassWoobie: Barty Crouch, Jr. When we first see him, he is pleading for mercy as his own father disowns him in public and orders him thrown into Azkaban. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, it then turns out his father may have been right, as Crouch Jr. turns out to have become a fanatical Death Eater who might have tortured Neville's parents into insanity, rather than being WronglyAccused as assumed.]]



* NightmareFuel: Rowling was apparently surprised that the editors didn't object to Voldemort's resurrection scene, specifically [[spoiler: Voldemort's fetus-like rudimentary body]].
** [[spoiler: The film has some ''immense'' fun with this, having the build up to Voldemort's resurrection very unnerving, especially when he finally reborn. His appearance of being frail-like and no nose and opening his eyes being snake-like to normal makes it more creepy.]]

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* NightmareFuel: NightmareFuel:
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Rowling was apparently surprised that the editors didn't object to Voldemort's resurrection scene, specifically [[spoiler: Voldemort's [[spoiler:Voldemort's fetus-like rudimentary body]].
** [[spoiler:
body]]. The film has some ''immense'' fun with this, having [[spoiler:having the build up to Voldemort's resurrection very unnerving, especially when he finally reborn. His appearance of being frail-like and no nose and opening his eyes being snake-like to normal makes it more creepy.]]



** The trial [[spoiler: of Barty Crouch Jr, with Junior begging and crying for mercy and Senior showing no emotion or connection towards his son until he finally loses it and screams at him that he has no son. YMMV, since at the end it's revealed that Crouch Jr. might actually have already beem evil and guilty, though his story still is tragic]]. Also, the torture of Frank and Alice Longbottom.

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** The trial [[spoiler: of [[spoiler:of Barty Crouch Jr, with Junior begging and crying for mercy and Senior showing no emotion or connection towards his son until he finally loses it and screams at him that he has no son. YMMV, since at the end it's revealed that Crouch Jr. might actually have already beem evil and guilty, though his story still is tragic]]. Also, the son.]].
** The
torture of Frank and Alice Longbottom.



* OneSceneWonder: Despite his one-and-a-quarter chapters' worth of pagetime, [[SacrificialLamb Frank]] [[BadassNormal Bryce]] still makes quite an impression.

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* OneSceneWonder: OneSceneWonder:
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Despite his one-and-a-quarter chapters' worth of pagetime, [[SacrificialLamb Frank]] [[BadassNormal Bryce]] still makes quite an impression.



* TheWoobie --> JerkassWoobie: Barty Crouch, Jr. When we first see him, he is pleading for mercy as his own father disowns him in public and orders him thrown into Azkaban. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, it then turns out his father may have been right, as Crouch Jr. turns out to have become a fanatical Death Eater who might have tortured Neville's parents into insanity, rather than being WronglyAccused as assumed.]]



* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Harry's complete breakdown after [[spoiler:he arrives back at Hogwarts with Cedric's corpse along with the news that Voldemort has returned]].
** Robert Pattinson gets some love for his performance as Cedric, ''way'' before he did ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'', being a lot more of a NiceGuy to Harry compared to his role in in the Twilight movies. [[spoiler: His tragic death made it a lot more of a solidification.]]

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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct:
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Harry's complete breakdown after [[spoiler:he arrives back at Hogwarts with Cedric's corpse along with the news that Voldemort has returned]].
returned]]. Easily one of the biggest TearJerker[=s=] in the film series.
** Robert Pattinson gets some love for his performance as Cedric, ''way'' before he did ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'', being a lot more of a NiceGuy to Harry compared to his role in in the Twilight movies. [[spoiler: His [[spoiler:His tragic death made it a lot more of a solidification.helped solidify it.]]



* MemeticMutation: Slight one. Fans will lash out at Voldemort and Wormtail for killing Cedric, not just because of obvious reasons, but because it locked Robert Pattinson out of the series and led to him being cast in ''Twilight''.

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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
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Slight one. Fans will lash out at Voldemort and Wormtail for killing Cedric, not just because of obvious reasons, but because it locked Robert Pattinson out of the series and led to him being cast in ''Twilight''.
6th May '18 2:34:30 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/DavidTennant and Creator/RobertPattinson both appeared in this movie before becoming famous in ''Series/DoctorWho'' and ''Literature/{{Twilight}}''.
25th Apr '18 10:00:57 PM StardustSoldier
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* AcceptableTargets: Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. Implied association of his weight with parental indulgence, his comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George's playful hope for a glimpse of the "great bullying git," and Fred's slipping him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]] treat obesity as a morbid character flaw, deserving of droll contempt. Years later, Rowling, [[DoubleStandard outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick"]].

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* AcceptableTargets: AcceptableTargets:
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Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. Implied association of his weight with parental indulgence, his comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George's playful hope for a glimpse of the "great bullying git," and Fred's slipping him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]] treat obesity as a morbid character flaw, deserving of droll contempt. Years later, Rowling, [[DoubleStandard outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick"]].



* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Barty Crouch Jr. really scared of being sent to Azkaban or were these CrocodileTears to gain sympathy from the jury? Perhaps a mixture of both? Also was he truly a loyal servant to Voldemort or did exposure to the dementors/years of being under the Imperius Curse delusion him into thinking so?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
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Was Barty Crouch Jr. really scared of being sent to Azkaban or were these CrocodileTears to gain sympathy from the jury? Perhaps a mixture of both? Also was he truly a loyal servant to Voldemort or did exposure to the dementors/years of being under the Imperius Curse delusion him into thinking so?
25th Apr '18 9:20:47 PM eleutherios
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** With Rita Skeeter, trashy tabloid journalists. Considering how invasive and sensationalist British tabloids can be, she's clearly a TakeThat against the likes of The Sun and The Daily Mail.
21st Apr '18 1:18:07 PM Existing87
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* AcceptableTargets: Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. Implied association of his weight with parental indulgence, his comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George's [[ComeToGawk playful hope for a glimpse]] of the "great bullying git," and Fred's slipping him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]] treat obesity as a morbid character flaw, deserving of droll contempt. Years later, Rowling, [[DoubleStandard outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick"]].

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* AcceptableTargets: Overweight boys. Dudley's increased weight, while treated with some seriousness, is still PlayedForLaughs. Implied association of his weight with parental indulgence, his comical resentment of his diet, Fred and George's [[ComeToGawk playful hope for a glimpse]] glimpse of the "great bullying git," and Fred's slipping him a toffee which [[BodyHorror magically engorges his tongue]] treat obesity as a morbid character flaw, deserving of droll contempt. Years later, Rowling, [[DoubleStandard outraged at the pressure on girls to be thin, called fat insults "strange and sick"]].
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