History YMMV / HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire

22nd Feb '17 6:36:23 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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** Petunia is described as looking out the window "as though there had been a warning about an escaped rhinoceros." In ''Film/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem'', Newt Scamander has to recapture his escaped erumpent, which strongly resembles a rhinoceros.

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** Petunia is described as looking out the window "as though there had been a warning about an escaped rhinoceros." In ''Film/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem'', Newt Scamander has to recapture his escaped erumpent, which strongly resembles and harasses a rhinoceros.rhinoceros that is trying to escape a zoo to get away from it.



* IdiotBall: A common criticism of the villain's plot in this book is that [[spoiler: Bartemius Crouch Jr. was too dumb to just use a normal object as a portkey instead of the Triwizard Cup to transport Harry to Little Hangleton graveyard. And for having Harry use said portkey in the most publicized event in Hogwarts history, as opposed to the privacy of his own office. And, since he can apparently enter Harry into a BindingMagicalContract against his will, not entering him into one which compels him to take a walk off a cliff.]]

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* IdiotBall: A common criticism of the villain's plot in this book is that [[spoiler: Bartemius Crouch Jr. was too dumb to just use a normal object as a portkey instead of the Triwizard Cup to transport Harry to Little Hangleton graveyard. And for having Harry use said portkey in the most publicized event in Hogwarts history, as opposed to the privacy of his own office. And, since he can apparently enter Harry into a BindingMagicalContract Binding Magical Contract against his will, not entering him into one which compels him to take a walk off a cliff.]]
19th Feb '17 6:28:59 AM Gess
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** The Durmstrang are even worse, looking in general like they've just arrived from a military academy stationed in a juvenile prison. And then their Headmaster Igor Karkarov and prized student Viktor Krum enter, looking perpetually pissed at everything for no reason.
31st Jan '17 3:00:36 PM LBHills
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* IdiotPlot: The only reason given for Harry participating is to bait out whoever put his name in the Goblet; he wasn't interested in participating even if it wasn't age restricted. The villains' plot relied on everyone playing along, and would have been thwarted completely if Harry did ''nothing''. And yet none of the staff of Hogwarts or Harry's friends (ostensibly both interested in his welfare) suggest he do anything other than walk into what is an incredibly obvious trap. [[spoiler: To be fair, the Imperioed Mr. Crouch points out that harry has to take part, since it's a legally binding contract, but it's still infuriating how no one voices much of an objection to it.]]

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* IdiotPlot: The only reason given for Harry participating is to bait lure out whoever put his name in the Goblet; he wasn't interested in participating even if it wasn't age restricted. The villains' plot relied on everyone playing along, and would have been thwarted completely if Harry did ''nothing''. And yet none participating. None of the staff of Hogwarts or Harry's friends (ostensibly both interested in his welfare) suggest he do anything other than walk into what is an incredibly obvious trap. [[spoiler: To be fair, The phrase 'binding magical contract' is used, with unspecified penalties for defaulting, but nothing (except the Imperioed Mr. Crouch points out plot) prevented Harry from making an absolute-minimum ''pro forma'' effort that harry has to take part, since it's a legally binding contract, but it's still infuriating how no one voices much of an objection to it.]]wouldn't risk his life. Which would have destroyed the villains' plans utterly.



* MagnificentBastard: Voldemort and Barty Crouch Jr. With the information coerced from Bertha Jorkins about a month before the actual event, Voldemort was able to concoct a plan to not only seize ''the'' Harry Potter's blood and use it for his revival, but recruit a Death Eater that was long since believed dead. Barty Crouch Jr. not only successfully escorted a BookDumb 14-year-old through a dangerous tournament designed for 17-year-olds, but also did so without drawing any suspicion to himself, disguised as ''the'' Death-Eater-hating Auror himself. Not only that, but even though Harry escaped Little Hangleton, the plan Voldemort came up with made sure that the wider wizarding world didn't believe his comeback until a year later: not the success he envisioned, but still incredibly useful.

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* MagnificentBastard: Voldemort and Barty Crouch Jr. With the information coerced from Bertha Jorkins about a month before the actual event, Voldemort was able to concoct a plan to not only seize ''the'' Harry Potter's blood and use it for his revival, but recruit a Death Eater that was long since believed dead. Barty Crouch Jr. not only successfully escorted a BookDumb 14-year-old through a dangerous tournament designed for 17-year-olds, but also did so without drawing any suspicion to himself, disguised as ''the'' Death-Eater-hating Auror himself. Not only that, but even though Harry escaped Little Hangleton, the plan Voldemort came up with made sure that the wider wizarding world didn't believe his comeback until a year later: not the success he envisioned, but still incredibly useful.



** [[spoiler: The film takes some ''immense'' fun with this, having the build up to Voldemort's resurrection very unnerving, especially when he finally reborn. His appearance of being frail-like and no nose and opening his eyes being snake-like to normal makes it more creepy]].

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** [[spoiler: The film takes has some ''immense'' fun with this, having the build up to Voldemort's resurrection very unnerving, especially when he finally reborn. His appearance of being frail-like and no nose and opening his eyes being snake-like to normal makes it more creepy]].
8th Jan '17 6:39:12 PM RaustBD
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** "He asked calmly." [[labelnote:Explanation]]An excerpt from the book right after Dumbledore's "Did you put your name in the Goblet of Fire?" line, said in mockery of film Dumbledore's decidedly ''not calm'' delivery of this line.[[/labelnote]]
7th Jan '17 8:12:56 PM Galadriel
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7th Jan '17 8:06:14 PM Galadriel
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Hermione kissing Harry and Ron on the forehead after they came back from underwater in one piece.
20th Dec '16 3:07:10 PM johnnycade7
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** Hermione's SheCleansUpNicely moment is rather watered down compared to the book, if only because Emma Watson hadn't exactly been dressed down before in the films. So she doesn't look that different, making Harry's jaw-dropping expression feel like a huge overreaction.
** There's also the moment where Hermione snaps at Harry too and says "off to bed, both of you!"

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** Hermione's SheCleansUpNicely moment is rather watered down compared to the book, if only because already-very-pretty Emma Watson hadn't exactly been dressed down before in the films. So she doesn't look that different, making Harry's jaw-dropping expression feel like a huge overreaction.
** There's also the moment where Hermione snaps at Harry too and says "off to bed, both of you!"you!" She says it as if she's their mom. It does match up with who Hermione is though.
10th Dec '16 7:46:23 PM Da1tonTheGreat
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** Petunia is described as looking out the window "as though there had been a warning about an escaped rhinoceros." In ''Film/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem'', Newt Scamander has to recapture his escaped erumpent, which strongly resembles a rhinoceros.
9th Dec '16 1:34:03 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The presence of Creator/DavidTennant and Creator/RobertPattinson in this movie led to a slew of "[[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]] kills [[Literature/{{Twilight}} Edward Cullen]]" jokes.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: The presence of Creator/DavidTennant and Creator/RobertPattinson in this movie led to a slew of "[[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]] kills [[Literature/{{Twilight}} Edward Cullen]]" jokes.jokes about ''Series/DoctorWho'' and ''Literature/{{Twilight}}''.
21st Nov '16 2:48:47 AM fearlessnikki
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Ron notes at the end of "House Elf Liberation Front" that 'Percy wouldn't recognise a joke if it danced naked in front of him, wearing Dobby's tea cosy'. Cut to [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]] where Percy shows he ''does'' recognise and can tell a joke right before [[spoiler: Fred is killed]].

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: FunnyAneurysmMoment:
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Ron notes at the end of "House Elf Liberation Front" that 'Percy wouldn't recognise a joke if it danced naked in front of him, wearing Dobby's tea cosy'. Cut to [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]] where Percy shows he ''does'' recognise and can tell a joke right before [[spoiler: Fred is killed]].



** Early on in the book Moody's offscreen EstablishingCharacterMoment is an amusing story about commotion in his backyard - with him apparently jinxing dustbins. [[spoiler: We later find out this was actually Barty Crouch Jr attacking him so he could impersonate him for the year]].



* HarsherInHindsight: When Sirius meets up with the Trio, Hermione keeps going on about how badly Winky was treated by Crouch. When Ron tells her to give it a rest, Sirius remarks that the best way to tell a man's character is to see how he treats his inferiors, not his equals. [[{{Hypocrite}} Less than a year later he'll be treating his own house-elf, Kreacher, like dirt on his shoe.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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When Sirius meets up with the Trio, Hermione keeps going on about how badly Winky was treated by Crouch. When Ron tells her to give it a rest, Sirius remarks that the best way to tell a man's character is to see how he treats his inferiors, not his equals. [[{{Hypocrite}} Less than a year later he'll be treating his own house-elf, Kreacher, like dirt on his shoe.]]



* HilariousInHindsight: After the First Task, when Madam Pomfrey, the school nurse, is attending to the Champions' wounds, she exclaims, "Dragons! ... Last year dementors, this year dragons, what are they going to bring into this school next?" Fans all know by now that the next year would see something far worse enter the grounds of Hogwarts School: [[SadistTeacher Professor Umbridge]] as [[TyrantTakesTheHelm The Tyrant Taking The Helm]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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After the First Task, when Madam Pomfrey, the school nurse, is attending to the Champions' wounds, she exclaims, "Dragons! ... Last year dementors, this year dragons, what are they going to bring into this school next?" Fans all know by now that the next year would see something far worse enter the grounds of Hogwarts School: [[SadistTeacher Professor Umbridge]] as [[TyrantTakesTheHelm The Tyrant Taking The Helm]].



** The fans' uproar over Hermione wearing pink instead of blue to the Yule Ball. Fast forward to ''Literature/BalletShoes'' where a small fuss is made over Pauline (Emma's character) getting a blue gown for a premiere. So fans finally get to see Emma wearing blue at a formal occasion.

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** The fans' uproar over Hermione wearing pink instead of blue to the Yule Ball. Fast forward to ''Literature/BalletShoes'' where a small fuss is made over Pauline (Emma's character) getting a blue gown for a premiere. So fans finally get to see Emma wearing blue at a formal occasion. And then she stars in ''Film/BeautyAndTheBeast2017'' as a heroine whose dress is iconically blue - and this time in the SheCleansUpNicely moment the dress stays the same colour as it was in the original.



** Harry Potter, too, for the same reason.
*** Harry gets hit with this earlier in the book: After being chosen as Champion his life quickly goes to crap: The other three houses turn against him, believing he put his name in to snatch more glory for himself and even Ron buys into this. This image isn't help by Rita Skeeter's article glorifying Harry using mostly made up garbage, which causes Harry to snap at his crush Cho and only drives a further wedge between him and Ron. Oh and on top of all of this he has to fight a ferocious dragon with only a day to prepare. All for an honor he didn't want and would gladly give up if he could.

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** Harry Potter, too, for the same reason.
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Harry gets hit with this earlier in the book: After being chosen as Champion his life quickly goes to crap: The other three houses turn against him, believing he put his name in to snatch more glory for himself and even Ron buys into this. This image isn't help by Rita Skeeter's article glorifying Harry using mostly made up garbage, which causes Harry to snap at his crush Cho and only drives a further wedge between him and Ron. Oh and on top of all of this he has to fight a ferocious dragon with only a day to prepare. All for an honor he didn't want and would gladly give up if he could.



*** In all fairness, Draco probably doesn't object to someone calling his father vile and cruel because he, deep down at least, knows it is true... Malfoy getting incensed by Potter calling him pathetic makes sense, both because he despises Harry and as such can't let him insult him, and also because deep down he knows that the last barb was true as well and hates himself for it.



** And before the rather lackluster argument between Ron and Hermione, there's Hermione's fairly underwhelming BeautifulAllAlong debut at the ball - she pokes her head out shyly from behind the corner, slowly emerges (her Yule Ball dress changed from the periwinkle blue of the book to an unflattering shade of pink, probably to stand out against the blue background), and then we see her descend from the top of an unnaturally tall windy staircase as if she were a Disney princess (and the scene does feel rather reminiscent of the end of 1959's ''Disney/SleepingBeauty'') and Harry smiles in surprise as she descends before Ron gets a look at her. It's supposed to be really breathtaking, but despite all the fancy lighting tricks and sickeningly sweet fairy tale music, like so many similar scenes in big splashy Hollywood films before and after it, the scene just falls horribly flat...due mostly to the fact that Creator/EmmaWatson is just too naturally cute for it to work - never mind that none of the filmmakers ever did a particularly effective job of trying to make her look plain or ordinary before this film. It really does feel like it's just the same girl from all the previous scenes (and previous films) in a dress with a slightly different hairstyle; even Daniel Radcliffe (Harry's actor) lampshaded it in an interview.
*** The fact that Hermione's altered dress makes her look like Princess Bubble-Yum just makes the scene (and her part in the Yule Ball) look and feel even more ridiculous.

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** And before the rather lackluster argument between Ron and Hermione, there's Hermione's fairly underwhelming BeautifulAllAlong debut at the ball - she pokes her head out shyly from behind the corner, slowly emerges (her Yule Ball dress changed from the periwinkle blue of the book to an unflattering shade of pink, probably to stand out against the blue background), and then we see her descend from the top of an unnaturally tall windy staircase as if she were a Disney princess (and the scene does feel SheCleansUpNicely moment is rather reminiscent of watered down compared to the end of 1959's ''Disney/SleepingBeauty'') and Harry smiles in surprise as she descends book, if only because Emma Watson hadn't exactly been dressed down before Ron gets a in the films. So she doesn't look at her. It's supposed to be really breathtaking, but despite all the fancy lighting tricks and sickeningly sweet fairy tale music, like so many similar scenes in big splashy Hollywood films before and after it, the scene just falls horribly flat...due mostly to the fact that Creator/EmmaWatson is just too naturally cute for it to work - never mind that none of the filmmakers ever did a particularly effective job of trying to make her look plain or ordinary before this film. It really does different, making Harry's jaw-dropping expression feel like it's just the same girl from all the previous scenes (and previous films) in a dress with a slightly different hairstyle; even Daniel Radcliffe (Harry's actor) lampshaded it in an interview.huge overreaction.
*** The fact that Hermione's altered dress makes her look like Princess Bubble-Yum just makes ** There's also the scene (and her part in the Yule Ball) look moment where Hermione snaps at Harry too and feel even more ridiculous. says "off to bed, both of you!"



** Dumbledore's speech at the end is filled with cliches in the style of "you all knew him" and DamnedByFaintPraise in regards to Cedric, especially in comparison to the more solemn but realistic speech in the book. To be fair though, it could be an invoked, in-universe example. One could interpret this as Dumbledore being preoccupied with the consequences of the situation, especially given it only sounds hollow and insincere until the end, in which he sounds genuinely heartbroken.


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* NarmCharm: Although the SheCleansUpNicely scene has its share of Narm, the shot of Hermione nervously peaking out from behind the wall and descending the stairs is still rather cute - especially for the {{Adorkable}} expression on Emma Watson's face.
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