History YMMV / HappyTreeFriends

24th Jan '17 2:31:41 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Is Lumpy a [[MooseAreIdiots dimwitted moose]] that is a threat to civilization, or is he just trying to help his friends, but keeps on making careless mistakes that lead to their deaths?

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** Is Lumpy a [[MooseAreIdiots dimwitted moose]] that is a [[LethallyStupid threat to civilization, civilization]], or is he just trying to help his friends, but keeps on making careless mistakes that lead to their deaths?
18th Jan '17 8:20:43 PM Splurdge
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Specific fandom trends suffer from this. Of note are the [[OriginalCharacter fan character]] Ale and more elaborate takes on stories involving this show.
** Ale, first and foremost, was a fan character so popular, fans tended to [[WordOfDante mistake her for a canon character]]. But then [[FollowTheLeader more fan characters with her basic template]] (often female; wears military outfit or, if not, more complex-looking outfit compared to even the [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully-clothed canon characters]]; can flip out like Flippy; often made as a SelfInsert to [[WishFulfillment be with Flippy]]) show up, and the term "Flippy-sue" is coined as a protest against this practice. Her creator later considered her work as an OldShame and no longer allowed anyone to involve Ale in their HTF fanworks. Even then, the Flippy-sue trend is still going on as part of SturgeonsLaw, which often tires the fans and is usually the main point raised when criticizing the fanbase.
** The inverse of the above (Flippy-sues in general) also suffers from this. Back then, jumping on the hate bandwagon was considered a "true fan" thing to do. But consider that the Flippy-sue trend won't die anytime soon thanks to SturgeonsLaw. Eventually, even other fans have become ''sick of Flippy-sue haters'' as much as or even more so than the fans that made said characters. In their defense, hating on something that's already inevitable in a fandom is pretty much pointless. Expect "Fandom Nazi" argument when it comes to this.
** Elaborate stories involving HTF. Back then, this was a popular way of expanding the show in fanworks (see (now-retired) zolrac3005's works as a more popular example, which is helped by his ability to apply that to his near-show-perfect Flash animation). It also helps that the show has (almost) negative continuity, allowing fans to have their freedom in developing their own HTF stories. Fan characters are often involved, but back then they were mostly acceptable (SturgeonsLaw is still strong even back then, however). But ClicheStorm and a flood of poorly-made fan characters occurred, causing fans to complain that said stories made the show look InNameOnly. Nowadays, fans still have their own takes on complex HTF stories, but it's rare for them to get any sort of praise, even the ones that involve exclusively the canon cast.
** The idea of human [[OriginalCharacter fan characters]], while the whole concept results in a BrokenBase of its own and regardless whether you support the idea or not, has become this ever since [[WordOfGod Kenn Navarro confirmed that humans don't exist in the world of HTF]].
18th Jan '17 8:20:43 PM Splurdge
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Specific fandom trends suffer from this. Of note are the [[OriginalCharacter fan character]] Ale and more elaborate takes on stories involving this show.
** Ale, first and foremost, was a fan character so popular, fans tended to [[WordOfDante mistake her for a canon character]]. But then [[FollowTheLeader more fan characters with her basic template]] (often female; wears military outfit or, if not, more complex-looking outfit compared to even the [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully-clothed canon characters]]; can flip out like Flippy; often made as a SelfInsert to [[WishFulfillment be with Flippy]]) show up, and the term "Flippy-sue" is coined as a protest against this practice. Her creator later considered her work as an OldShame and no longer allowed anyone to involve Ale in their HTF fanworks. Even then, the Flippy-sue trend is still going on as part of SturgeonsLaw, which often tires the fans and is usually the main point raised when criticizing the fanbase.
** The inverse of the above (Flippy-sues in general) also suffers from this. Back then, jumping on the hate bandwagon was considered a "true fan" thing to do. But consider that the Flippy-sue trend won't die anytime soon thanks to SturgeonsLaw. Eventually, even other fans have become ''sick of Flippy-sue haters'' as much as or even more so than the fans that made said characters. In their defense, hating on something that's already inevitable in a fandom is pretty much pointless. Expect "Fandom Nazi" argument when it comes to this.
** Elaborate stories involving HTF. Back then, this was a popular way of expanding the show in fanworks (see (now-retired) zolrac3005's works as a more popular example, which is helped by his ability to apply that to his near-show-perfect Flash animation). It also helps that the show has (almost) negative continuity, allowing fans to have their freedom in developing their own HTF stories. Fan characters are often involved, but back then they were mostly acceptable (SturgeonsLaw is still strong even back then, however). But ClicheStorm and a flood of poorly-made fan characters occurred, causing fans to complain that said stories made the show look InNameOnly. Nowadays, fans still have their own takes on complex HTF stories, but it's rare for them to get any sort of praise, even the ones that involve exclusively the canon cast.
** The idea of human [[OriginalCharacter fan characters]], while the whole concept results in a BrokenBase of its own and regardless whether you support the idea or not, has become this ever since [[WordOfGod Kenn Navarro confirmed that humans don't exist in the world of HTF]].
16th Jan '17 4:42:00 PM TVT1234
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*** Ale, first and foremost, was a fan character so popular, fans tended to [[WordOfDante mistake her for a canon character]]. But then [[FollowTheLeader more fan characters with her basic template]] (often female; wears military outfit or, if not, more complex-looking outfit compared to even the [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully-clothed canon characters]]; can flip out like Flippy; often made as a SelfInsert to [[WishFulfillment be with Flippy]]) show up, and the term "Flippy-sue" is coined as a protest against this practice. Her creator later considered her work as an OldShame and no longer allowed anyone to involve Ale in their HTF fanworks. Even then, the Flippy-sue trend is still going on as part of SturgeonsLaw, which often tires the fans and is usually the main point raised when criticizing the fanbase.
*** The inverse of the above (Flippy-sues in general) also suffers from this. Back then, jumping on the hate bandwagon was considered a "true fan" thing to do. But consider that the Flippy-sue trend won't die anytime soon thanks to SturgeonsLaw. Eventually, even other fans have become ''sick of Flippy-sue haters'' as much as or even more so than the fans that made said characters. In their defense, hating on something that's already inevitable in a fandom is pretty much pointless. Expect "Fandom Nazi" argument when it comes to this.
*** Elaborate stories involving HTF. Back then, this was a popular way of expanding the show in fanworks (see (now-retired) zolrac3005's works as a more popular example, which is helped by his ability to apply that to his near-show-perfect Flash animation). It also helps that the show has (almost) negative continuity, allowing fans to have their freedom in developing their own HTF stories. Fan characters are often involved, but back then they were mostly acceptable (SturgeonsLaw is still strong even back then, however). But ClicheStorm and a flood of poorly-made fan characters occurred, causing fans to complain that said stories made the show look InNameOnly. Nowadays, fans still have their own takes on complex HTF stories, but it's rare for them to get any sort of praise, even the ones that involve exclusively the canon cast.
*** The idea of human [[OriginalCharacter fan characters]], while the whole concept results in a BrokenBase of its own and regardless whether you support the idea or not, has become this ever since [[WordOfGod Kenn Navarro confirmed that humans don't exist in the world of HTF]].

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*** ** Ale, first and foremost, was a fan character so popular, fans tended to [[WordOfDante mistake her for a canon character]]. But then [[FollowTheLeader more fan characters with her basic template]] (often female; wears military outfit or, if not, more complex-looking outfit compared to even the [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully-clothed canon characters]]; can flip out like Flippy; often made as a SelfInsert to [[WishFulfillment be with Flippy]]) show up, and the term "Flippy-sue" is coined as a protest against this practice. Her creator later considered her work as an OldShame and no longer allowed anyone to involve Ale in their HTF fanworks. Even then, the Flippy-sue trend is still going on as part of SturgeonsLaw, which often tires the fans and is usually the main point raised when criticizing the fanbase.
*** ** The inverse of the above (Flippy-sues in general) also suffers from this. Back then, jumping on the hate bandwagon was considered a "true fan" thing to do. But consider that the Flippy-sue trend won't die anytime soon thanks to SturgeonsLaw. Eventually, even other fans have become ''sick of Flippy-sue haters'' as much as or even more so than the fans that made said characters. In their defense, hating on something that's already inevitable in a fandom is pretty much pointless. Expect "Fandom Nazi" argument when it comes to this.
*** ** Elaborate stories involving HTF. Back then, this was a popular way of expanding the show in fanworks (see (now-retired) zolrac3005's works as a more popular example, which is helped by his ability to apply that to his near-show-perfect Flash animation). It also helps that the show has (almost) negative continuity, allowing fans to have their freedom in developing their own HTF stories. Fan characters are often involved, but back then they were mostly acceptable (SturgeonsLaw is still strong even back then, however). But ClicheStorm and a flood of poorly-made fan characters occurred, causing fans to complain that said stories made the show look InNameOnly. Nowadays, fans still have their own takes on complex HTF stories, but it's rare for them to get any sort of praise, even the ones that involve exclusively the canon cast.
*** ** The idea of human [[OriginalCharacter fan characters]], while the whole concept results in a BrokenBase of its own and regardless whether you support the idea or not, has become this ever since [[WordOfGod Kenn Navarro confirmed that humans don't exist in the world of HTF]].
16th Jan '17 4:27:17 PM TVT1234
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Specific fandom trends suffer from this. Of note are the [[OriginalCharacter fan character]] Ale and more elaborate takes on stories involving this show.
*** Ale, first and foremost, was a fan character so popular, fans tended to [[WordOfDante mistake her for a canon character]]. But then [[FollowTheLeader more fan characters with her basic template]] (often female; wears military outfit or, if not, more complex-looking outfit compared to even the [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully-clothed canon characters]]; can flip out like Flippy; often made as a SelfInsert to [[WishFulfillment be with Flippy]]) show up, and the term "Flippy-sue" is coined as a protest against this practice. Her creator later considered her work as an OldShame and no longer allowed anyone to involve Ale in their HTF fanworks. Even then, the Flippy-sue trend is still going on as part of SturgeonsLaw, which often tires the fans and is usually the main point raised when criticizing the fanbase.
*** The inverse of the above (Flippy-sues in general) also suffers from this. Back then, jumping on the hate bandwagon was considered a "true fan" thing to do. But consider that the Flippy-sue trend won't die anytime soon thanks to SturgeonsLaw. Eventually, even other fans have become ''sick of Flippy-sue haters'' as much as or even more so than the fans that made said characters. In their defense, hating on something that's already inevitable in a fandom is pretty much pointless. Expect "Fandom Nazi" argument when it comes to this.
*** Elaborate stories involving HTF. Back then, this was a popular way of expanding the show in fanworks (see (now-retired) zolrac3005's works as a more popular example, which is helped by his ability to apply that to his near-show-perfect Flash animation). It also helps that the show has (almost) negative continuity, allowing fans to have their freedom in developing their own HTF stories. Fan characters are often involved, but back then they were mostly acceptable (SturgeonsLaw is still strong even back then, however). But ClicheStorm and a flood of poorly-made fan characters occurred, causing fans to complain that said stories made the show look InNameOnly. Nowadays, fans still have their own takes on complex HTF stories, but it's rare for them to get any sort of praise, even the ones that involve exclusively the canon cast.
*** The idea of human [[OriginalCharacter fan characters]], while the whole concept results in a BrokenBase of its own and regardless whether you support the idea or not, has become this ever since [[WordOfGod Kenn Navarro confirmed that humans don't exist in the world of HTF]].
10th Jan '17 4:30:35 AM TomServo3000
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny:
** While [[SubvertedKidsShow subverted kids shows]] that depict cute and innocent characters getting into horrible mishaps aren't even rare back then as the show was released during the early days of public internet (see various Flash websites with [[FollowTheLeader this type of content]]), viewers see this show as having a slightly more unique spin of the BlackComedy genre by having an entirely [[SugarBowl innocent-looking world and characters]] (enough to trick young children into watching) that only serve as the lead-up to the "shock" moments involving lots of blood and gore. However, ask any people nowadays and they usually see HTF as "just another parody kids show only relying on shock value".
** Even specific fandom trends suffer from this. Of note are the [[OriginalCharacter fan character]] Ale and more elaborate takes on stories involving this show.
*** Ale, first and foremost, was a fan character so popular, fans tended to [[WordOfDante mistake her for a canon character]]. But then [[FollowTheLeader more fan characters with her basic template]] (often female; wears military outfit or, if not, more complex-looking outfit compared to even the [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully-clothed canon characters]]; can flip out like Flippy; often made as a SelfInsert to [[WishFulfillment be with Flippy]]) show up, and the term "Flippy-sue" is coined as a protest against this practice. Her creator later considered her work as an OldShame and no longer allowed anyone to involve Ale in their HTF fanworks. Even then, the Flippy-sue trend is still going on as part of SturgeonsLaw, which often tires the fans and is usually the main point raised when criticizing the fanbase.
*** The inverse of the above (Flippy-sues in general) also suffers from this. Back then, jumping on the hate bandwagon was considered a "true fan" thing to do. But consider that the Flippy-sue trend won't die anytime soon thanks to SturgeonsLaw. Eventually, even other fans have become ''sick of Flippy-sue haters'' as much as or even more so than the fans that made said characters. In their defense, hating on something that's already inevitable in a fandom is pretty much pointless. Expect "Fandom Nazi" argument when it comes to this.
*** Elaborate stories involving HTF. Back then, this was a popular way of expanding the show in fanworks (see (now-retired) zolrac3005's works as a more popular example, which is helped by his ability to apply that to his near-show-perfect Flash animation). It also helps that the show has (almost) negative continuity, allowing fans to have their freedom in developing their own HTF stories. Fan characters are often involved, but back then they were mostly acceptable (SturgeonsLaw is still strong even back then, however). But ClicheStorm and a flood of poorly-made fan characters occurred, causing fans to complain that said stories made the show look InNameOnly. Nowadays, fans still have their own takes on complex HTF stories, but it's rare for them to get any sort of praise, even the ones that involve exclusively the canon cast.
*** The idea of human [[OriginalCharacter fan characters]], while the whole concept results in a BrokenBase of its own and regardless whether you support the idea or not, has become this ever since [[WordOfGod Kenn Navarro confirmed that humans don't exist in the world of HTF]].
7th Jan '17 11:13:09 PM Segal991
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** Disco Bear in "Easy Comb Easy Go" when he cries over his TraumaticHaircut. In that same episode, it's implied that he has self esteem problems and that he is pretending to be an egotist.



** Lumpy crosses this the moment he dropped [[TheWoobie Toothy]] into a box full of active, razor-sharp toy teeth, just so he can make a few extra dollars off of the latter's organs.

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** Lumpy crosses this the moment he dropped [[TheWoobie Toothy]] into a box full of active, razor-sharp toy teeth, just so he can make a few extra dollars off of the latter's organs.organs in "We're Scrooged".
5th Jan '17 3:02:36 PM Splurdge
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** Season 4 seems to be much more merciful to the likes of Petunia and Cub. They either live (''A Vicious Cycle'', ''Spare Tire'', ''Put Your Back Into It'', ''Dream Job'', and ''A Handy Nanny'') or their deaths are, for the most part, instantaneous (''Going Out With a Bang"",''You're Kraken Me Up'' and ''Camp Pokeneyeout''). Considering these characters have had extremely painful deaths in the past, it's nice to see them not getting the short end of the stick.season.

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** Season 4 seems to be much more merciful to the likes of Petunia and Cub. They either live (''A Vicious Cycle'', ''Spare Tire'', ''Put Your Back Into It'', ''Dream Job'', and ''A Handy Nanny'') or their deaths are, for the most part, instantaneous (''Going Out With a Bang"",''You're Bang'',''You're Kraken Me Up'' and ''Camp Pokeneyeout''). Considering these characters have had extremely painful deaths in the past, it's nice to see them not getting the short end of the stick.season.
5th Jan '17 3:02:05 PM Splurdge
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** Season 4 seems to be much more merciful to the likes of Petunia and Cub. They either live (''A Vicious Cycle'', ''Spare Tire'', ''Put Your Back Into It'', ''Dream Job'', and ''A Handy Nanny'') or their deaths are, for the most part, instantaneous (''You're Kraken Me Up'' and ''Camp Pokeneyeout''). Considering these characters have had extremely painful deaths in the past, it's nice to see them not getting the short end of the stick.season.

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** Season 4 seems to be much more merciful to the likes of Petunia and Cub. They either live (''A Vicious Cycle'', ''Spare Tire'', ''Put Your Back Into It'', ''Dream Job'', and ''A Handy Nanny'') or their deaths are, for the most part, instantaneous (''You're (''Going Out With a Bang"",''You're Kraken Me Up'' and ''Camp Pokeneyeout''). Considering these characters have had extremely painful deaths in the past, it's nice to see them not getting the short end of the stick.season.
4th Jan '17 9:16:31 PM Splurdge
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** Is Giggles a slut who's more than willing to [[YourCheatingHeart cheat on her boyfriend]], did those events happen before she fell in love with Cuddles, [[BetterAsFriends or has she broken up with Cuddles before the episodes where she dates others]]?
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