History YMMV / Hamlet

15th May '16 6:46:04 PM Pichu-kun
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*** Was she DrivenToSuicide or was her death accidental?



* IncestYay:
** Laertes and Ophelia. Laertes even gets into a tussle with Hamlet over who loves her more, and he shows a fascination with her sex life (or lack of).

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* IncestYay:
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IncestYay: Laertes and Ophelia. Laertes even gets into a tussle with Hamlet over who loves her more, and he shows a fascination with her sex life (or lack of).
6th May '16 8:52:54 PM Eagal
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%%* UnfortunateImplications: There are ''so many'' about women it isn't even funny. Hamlet in particular has some pretty sour opinions about women.



* {{Anvilicious}}: Its entire purpose.

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* %%* {{Anvilicious}}: Its entire purpose.



* {{Anvilicious}}: Something's rotten on the world of Qo'noS.

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* %%* {{Anvilicious}}: Something's rotten on the world of Qo'noS.
12th Apr '16 6:42:40 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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** On one hand, seeing so many well-known faces in the Branagh version is impressive. On the other, it can ring up ''many'' giggles due to the HeyItsThatGuy effects.
23rd Dec '15 2:32:50 AM LahmacunKebab
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** After a ''really'' bad film version was shown on ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' "Cut his throat in a church!" started to gain popularity

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** After a ''really'' bad film version was shown on ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' "Cut his throat in a church!" started to gain popularitypopularity.
23rd Dec '15 2:32:35 AM LahmacunKebab
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*** One issue raised in the play itself is the question of whether the Ghost is indeed his spirit or simply a demon impersonating him (or if it is him, he's incompetent). The Ghost leaves when the cock crows, a behavior associated with evil spirits, and he purports to be suffering in flames and torment, which could mean he comes from Purgatory, but this concept was rejected by Protestantism (the play is ambiguous/inconsistent about its religious background). In terms of intention, the Ghost is extorting Hamlet to do something arguably immoral (under the view that only God should take revenge on sinners), and his commands lead to the deaths of tons of people, including some (e.g. his son and wife) who King Hamlet would presumably want to live.



*** One issue raised in the play itself is the question of whether the Ghost is indeed his spirit or simply a demon impersonating him (or if it is him, he's incompetent). The Ghost leaves when the cock crows, a behavior associated with evil spirits, and he purports to be suffering in flames and torment, which could mean he comes from Purgatory, but this concept was rejected by Protestantism (the play is ambiguous/inconsistent about its religious background). In terms of intention, the Ghost is extorting Hamlet to do something arguably immoral (under the view that only God should take revenge on sinners), and his commands lead to the deaths of tons of people, including some (e.g. his son and wife) who King Hamlet would presumably want to live.



* MagnificentBastard: Hamlet used a play to determine if his uncle really was guilty, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard turned his uncles plots to kill Hamlet against him]] and used his last action before his death to prevent a succession crisis.

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* MagnificentBastard: Hamlet used a play to determine if his uncle really was guilty, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard turned his uncles uncle's plots to kill Hamlet against him]] and used his last action before his death to prevent a succession crisis.
23rd Dec '15 2:29:27 AM LahmacunKebab
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*** From the play one could walk away with the impression that the King was a cold, stern, warmongering bastard in life and Denmark is better off with him dead, even if he was killed for selfish motives. One notes how Hamlet seems to care more about him than his mother, partly because she married Claudius and did so shortly after her husbands death: was he a crap husband and is she relieved he's gone? And was he a cold and distant WellDoneSonGuy Hamlet has a higher opinion of than he should? Does he want justice for his death or revenge? Or does he see no difference? Maybe he died because he was a crap brother too?

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*** From the play one could walk away with the impression that the King was a cold, stern, warmongering bastard in life and Denmark is better off with him dead, even if he was killed for selfish motives. One notes how Hamlet seems to care more about him than his mother, partly because she married Claudius and did so shortly after her husbands husband's death: was he a crap husband and is she relieved he's gone? And was he a cold and distant WellDoneSonGuy Hamlet has a higher opinion of than he should? Does he want justice for his death or revenge? Or does he see no difference? Maybe he died because he was a crap brother too?
28th Nov '15 7:35:09 PM vifetoile
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*** Driven mad due to having to hide her pregnancy from her father, brother, and lover?

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*** Driven mad due to having [[MySecretPregnancy to hide her pregnancy pregnancy]] from her father, brother, and lover?
14th Nov '15 11:13:02 PM nombretomado
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*** Loving mother forced to marry her brother-in-law to save her son's life or deceitful accomplice in a palace coup? (Some believe that Hamlet's emphasis on revenge over capturing the throne for himself implies that Gertrude was the queen regnant, and both Hamlet's father and Claudius were only kings consort -- which at the time would have made them the rulers, not her. If this is the case, the play may also have been in part Shakespeare's approval of Elizabeth I's unmarried status. RogerEbert and others note that Gertrude may being practical to avoid a power vacuum that would invite usurpation of the throne.)

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*** Loving mother forced to marry her brother-in-law to save her son's life or deceitful accomplice in a palace coup? (Some believe that Hamlet's emphasis on revenge over capturing the throne for himself implies that Gertrude was the queen regnant, and both Hamlet's father and Claudius were only kings consort -- which at the time would have made them the rulers, not her. If this is the case, the play may also have been in part Shakespeare's approval of Elizabeth I's unmarried status. RogerEbert Creator/RogerEbert and others note that Gertrude may being practical to avoid a power vacuum that would invite usurpation of the throne.)
24th Oct '15 5:59:19 PM letatcestmoi
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* IncestYay:
** Laertes and Ophelia. Laertes even gets into a tussle with Hamlet over who loves her more, and he shows a fascination with her sex life (or lack of).
16th Oct '15 9:03:05 AM gmonkey42
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** '''Hamlet''': Insane, or faking it? TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth prince manipulated into evil[[note]]No, seriously; this was in vogue in the 19th century.[[/note]]? Deeply troubled youth wrestling with moral and honor codes? Spineless whiny git who killed in cold blood many times before hitting his actual mark? Misogynistic, Oedipal, whiny jerk? NonActionGuy {{Bookworm}} who would prefer to be back at school studying or writing more poetry for his girlfriend instead of carrying out the unsavory task of murder, unlike his predecessors in the Revenge Tragedies his story [[{{deconstruction}} deconstructs]]? A total [[TheSociopath sociopath?]] Suffering from multiple personality disorder[[note]]Hamlet's has been played by two different people in some versions of the play, with each one having a different personality and lines.[[/note]]? All of the above?

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** '''Hamlet''': Insane, or faking it? TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth prince manipulated into evil[[note]]No, seriously; this was in vogue in the 19th century.[[/note]]? Deeply troubled youth wrestling with moral and honor codes? Spineless whiny git who killed in cold blood many times before hitting his actual mark? Misogynistic, Oedipal, whiny jerk? NonActionGuy {{Bookworm}} who would prefer to be back at school studying or writing more poetry for his girlfriend instead of carrying out the unsavory task of murder, unlike his predecessors in the Revenge Tragedies his story [[{{deconstruction}} deconstructs]]? A total [[TheSociopath sociopath?]] Suffering from multiple personality disorder[[note]]Hamlet's disorder[[note]]Hamlet has been played by two different people in some versions of the play, with each one having a different personality and lines.[[/note]]? All of the above?
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