History YMMV / HajimeNoIppo

26th Feb '16 1:55:27 PM mhj0808
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** Still, arguably, Takumura is a pretty good example of how TropesAreNotBad. His personality is so over the top and consistently entertaining that he remains well received with the fans despite his blatant Marty Stu-ness.
11th Feb '16 4:38:57 PM nombretomado
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Two video games were released for PlayStation2 in 2003 and 2005, the second being for the 15th anniversary of the series. Saying they were mediocre is speaking highly of them. The character designs are all but unrecognisable. The UsefulNotes/NintendoWii adaptation that came out in 2008 does little better. (The second game at least was a pretty solid fighter, though)

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Two video games were released for PlayStation2 UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 in 2003 and 2005, the second being for the 15th anniversary of the series. Saying they were mediocre is speaking highly of them. The character designs are all but unrecognisable. The UsefulNotes/NintendoWii adaptation that came out in 2008 does little better. (The second game at least was a pretty solid fighter, though)
4th Jan '15 4:49:00 PM Cameony
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Two video games were released for PlayStation2 in 2003 and 2005, the second being for the 15th anniversary of the series. Saying they were mediocre is speaking highly of them. The character designs are all but unrecognisable. The UsefulNotes/NintendoWii adaptation that came out in 2008 does little better.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Two video games were released for PlayStation2 in 2003 and 2005, the second being for the 15th anniversary of the series. Saying they were mediocre is speaking highly of them. The character designs are all but unrecognisable. The UsefulNotes/NintendoWii adaptation that came out in 2008 does little better. (The second game at least was a pretty solid fighter, though)
10th Nov '14 1:19:16 PM MagBas
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* UnfortunateImplications: Subverted. The American Bryan Hawke was an insane racist that took joy in killings. Think about what this is probably saying about Americans for a second... And then it's subverted when you compare him with the ''other'' two Americans who appeared: one (David Eagle) was TheAce, the other was (Jason Ozma) a GentleGiant. Morikawa doesn't think ''that'' lowly of the {{Eagleland}}, people.
** Vorg's fight against Mike Elliot introduces a few more Americans for both sides of the cake. Mike Elliot is an all around nice guy who enjoys intellectual boxing matches and [[TheChessmaster treats boxing somewhat like Chess]]. He respects Vorg and wanted to fight Vorg in a fair fight. On the other extreme is his coach, a ManipulativeBastard who is not afraid of cheating if it will help his boxer win. He purposefully dodged a match against Vorg because he deemed it to be not worth the risk, and only allowed his boxer to fight Vorg when Vorg had ''one week'' to prepare for the match, as he was coming in as a stand-in when Mike's to-be opponent was injured. Even further, [[spoiler:Mike's coach paid off the referee ''just to be sure''. At that, the referee can be considered another American character, and his willingness to ''blatantly cheat'' makes it pretty clear which side of the coin he's on]]. The crowd also deserves a mention, too, as they spent most of the match screaming things at Vorg such as, "Go back to Russia you Pinko/Commie/Russkie/etc." and "Howl for us, Russian bitch" and don't forget "Don't mess with America!" and so on.
20th Sep '14 12:20:50 AM tenryufan
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* CryForTheDevil - Mashiba is a fearsome boxer in the ring, shown as [[CombatPragmatist someone who would do anything to win]]. He gains infamy by [[spoiler: stepping on Ichiro Miyata's foot to win in one of his very first fights]]. When he becomes the [[spoiler:Junior Lightweight champion]], he is nicknamed ''The Executioner'' due to his mercilessness in the ring. [[spoiler: There's also the fact that Mashiba practically raised his sister Kumi ever since their parents died in an accident, so only she and one of his bosses know how hard Mashiba has worked to take care of her. The scene where this softer side of his' was shown as quite the TearJerker in the anime.]]
** In the manga, Sawamura is also depicted as merciless and uncaring. [[spoiler:In fact, he and Mashiba later meet in one of the ''dirtiest'' fights in the manga. It is later revealed that he had a violent childhood and was rejected by almost everyone while growing up.]]
11th Sep '14 8:19:15 AM rexpensive
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Two video games were released for PlayStation2 in 2003 and 2005, the second being for the 15th anniversary of the series. Saying they were mediocre is speaking highly of them. The character designs are all but unrecognisable. The NintendoWii adaptation that came out in 2008 does little better.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Two video games were released for PlayStation2 in 2003 and 2005, the second being for the 15th anniversary of the series. Saying they were mediocre is speaking highly of them. The character designs are all but unrecognisable. The NintendoWii UsefulNotes/NintendoWii adaptation that came out in 2008 does little better.
3rd Sep '14 9:53:24 AM HandelSmit
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* PeripheryDemographic: This is a show where half the characters are big, muscly dudes. [[CaptainObvious YOU DO THE MATH]]!
3rd Jul '14 3:04:10 PM creader
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* ArcFatigue - The match between Ippo and Woli is ''30 chapters long'', not counting Woli's introduction, and a good half of it is [[spoiler:Ippo getting one-sidedly demolished by his opponent]]. Now try to read it one chapter a week (the publication rhythm in the Shonen Magazine). And suffer.
* AssPull - There's a few fights that end like this, but the absolute worst offender is Miyata during his fight against Randy Boy Jr. [[spoiler: Miyata comes up with not only a brand new counter on the spot, but it was after his ribs were broken, his stamina entirely spent, and spent a few rounds of getting pounded on. It's a unique counter he came up with on his own, and surpasses what his Father could do in his prime.]]

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* ArcFatigue - ArcFatigue: The match between Ippo and Woli is ''30 chapters long'', not counting Woli's introduction, and a good half of it is [[spoiler:Ippo getting one-sidedly demolished by his opponent]]. Now try to read it one chapter a week (the publication rhythm in the Shonen Magazine). And suffer.
* AssPull - AssPull: There's a few fights that end like this, but the absolute worst offender is Miyata during his fight against Randy Boy Jr. [[spoiler: Miyata comes up with not only a brand new counter on the spot, but it was after his ribs were broken, his stamina entirely spent, and spent a few rounds of getting pounded on. It's a unique counter he came up with on his own, and surpasses what his Father could do in his prime.]]



* CrowningMomentOfFunny - [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nARO_CODag The karaoke outing]]. It has to be seen to be believed.
** In his first episode, Sendoh is taking a shower. Takamura pops in and mistakes him for Aoki. HilarityEnsues.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpw3ItaYac0 The arm wrestling match.]] "The righteous...lost."
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moh9rP03oXk The sparring match with the famous news reporter.]]
** [[http://mangafox.me/manga/hajime_no_ippo/v51/c454/16.html Aoki's Look Away technique]] against his {{Not So Different}} opponent. Even the ''entire crowd'' was fooled!
* FoeYay - Ippo and Miyata. Ippo looks up to Miyata and knows virtually all his fight records and details. Poor Kumi has never inspired such devotion. Lampshaded by Ippo's gymmates, who often joke that Ippo is "gay for Miyata."

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny - [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nARO_CODag The karaoke outing]]. It has to be seen to be believed.
** In his first episode, Sendoh is taking a shower. Takamura pops in and mistakes him for Aoki. HilarityEnsues.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpw3ItaYac0 The arm wrestling match.]] "The righteous...lost."
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moh9rP03oXk The sparring match with the famous news reporter.]]
** [[http://mangafox.me/manga/hajime_no_ippo/v51/c454/16.html Aoki's Look Away technique]] against his {{Not So Different}} opponent. Even the ''entire crowd'' was fooled!
* FoeYay -
FoeYay: Ippo and Miyata. Ippo looks up to Miyata and knows virtually all his fight records and details. Poor Kumi has never inspired such devotion. Lampshaded by Ippo's gymmates, who often joke that Ippo is "gay for Miyata."



* IronWoobie - Vorg. His backstory is just sad, and he struggles with his boxing career. In the latest chapters, [[spoiler:he was only given his title shot on short notice, but he took it because he feels it's the only chance he has at making it big]]. Currently, it doesn't look hopeful, but hopefully he'll pull through in the end.

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* IronWoobie - Vorg.IronWoobie: Volg. His backstory is just sad, and he struggles with his boxing career. In the latest chapters, [[spoiler:he was only given his title shot on short notice, but he took it because he feels it's the only chance he has at making it big]]. Currently, it doesn't look hopeful, but hopefully he'll pull through in the end.



* MartyStu - Takamura. His goal is to become the world champion across ''six different weight classes'', and has so far breezed through two titles, while defending them with ease. This means that he is able to easily defeat world class opponents while being disadvantaged in that he has to keep his weight '''five weight classes lower than where he would be at his strongest'''. He managed to defeat the Philippine champion despite blotching his weight control so badly that he looked like a zombie. It's ironic that Morikawa spends so much effort portraying Ippo's steady climb in the boxing world and showing the effort it takes to compete at a world class level, while Takamura walks his way through two world championship titles. [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower He even]] [[RememberWhenYouBlewUpASun defeated a bear]]. WordOfGod outright stated that Takamura is the strongest boxer in the series. Keep in mind that this is even compared to the 68-0-0 undefeated "super champion" '''[[LivingLegend Ricardo Martinez]]'''.
* TheProblemWithLicensedGames - Two video games were released for PlayStation2 in 2003 and 2005, the second being for the 15th anniversary of the series. Saying they were mediocre is speaking highly of them. The character designs are all but unrecognisable. The NintendoWii adaptation that came out in 2008 does little better.
* RootingForTheEmpire - Usually inverted when Japan cheers for Takamura as [[HeroWithBadPublicity Takamura's]] portrayed as the villain in fights. However, it's played straight in his fight against Peter Rabbitson. After 10 long rounds of Takamura swinging and missing and Peter Rabbitson dodging and avoiding without even ''trying'' to attack, the crowd gets fed up and starts to cheer for Rabbitson instead of Takamura, despite the fact that Takamura's loss means there will be no longer be an international champion from Japan. [[spoiler: Of course, in the end Rabbitson ends up losing by an AssPull by Takamura.]]

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* MartyStu - MartyStu: Takamura. His goal is to become the world champion across ''six different weight classes'', and has so far breezed through two titles, while defending them with ease. This means that he is able to easily defeat world class opponents while being disadvantaged in that he has to keep his weight '''five weight classes lower than where he would be at his strongest'''. He managed to defeat the Philippine champion despite blotching his weight control so badly that he looked like a zombie. It's ironic that Morikawa spends so much effort portraying Ippo's steady climb in the boxing world and showing the effort it takes to compete at a world class level, while Takamura walks his way through two world championship titles. [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower He even]] [[RememberWhenYouBlewUpASun defeated a bear]]. WordOfGod outright stated that Takamura is the strongest boxer in the series. Keep in mind that this is even compared to the 68-0-0 undefeated "super champion" '''[[LivingLegend Ricardo Martinez]]'''.
* TheProblemWithLicensedGames - TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Two video games were released for PlayStation2 in 2003 and 2005, the second being for the 15th anniversary of the series. Saying they were mediocre is speaking highly of them. The character designs are all but unrecognisable. The NintendoWii adaptation that came out in 2008 does little better.
* RootingForTheEmpire - RootingForTheEmpire: Usually inverted when Japan cheers for Takamura as [[HeroWithBadPublicity Takamura's]] portrayed as the villain in fights. However, it's played straight in his fight against Peter Rabbitson. After 10 long rounds of Takamura swinging and missing and Peter Rabbitson dodging and avoiding without even ''trying'' to attack, the crowd gets fed up and starts to cheer for Rabbitson instead of Takamura, despite the fact that Takamura's loss means there will be no longer be an international champion from Japan. [[spoiler: Of course, in the end Rabbitson ends up losing by an AssPull by Takamura.]]



* TearJerker - Many moments.
** One that's absolutely heartbreaking is [[spoiler: Kimura's championship fight against Mashiba. With his career and the title on the line, to come within an outstretched arm from winning the championship, and seeing the way he and Aoki begin crying really gets to you.]] Of course, [[spoiler: he does retire, as Tatsuya Kimura; however, with his name spelled in Katakana, he returns to the ring.]]
** Another heart wrenching moment is [[spoiler:After Sendo has defeated Volg for the championship, Volg's contract with his gym had been severed, and could have been severed any time he lost too many matches. Volg's farewell to Ippo at the airport, knowing that they might never be able to meet again, is incredibly heart breaking. Specially when Ippo can hold back the tears when in front of Volg... but he breaks down crying once he's gone.]]
** Watching Takamura of all people bawl his eyes out when he finds out the bear he spared (because [[MamaBear she had cubs]]) got shot and turned into his stew is pretty hard to watch. Mostly because Takamura can apparently be quite motivational when he's feeling strongly about something.
** Eiji Date's rematch against Ricardo Martinez. [[spoiler:An accidentally made GameBreakingInjury is what lead Date to not only lose against Ricardo but also retire from boxing permanently.]]
** How about Saeki's match against Itagaki? [[spoiler: Seeing him lose like that is heartbreaking, because he was fighting for Karasawa, who retired but was unhappy with his life. This is likely something that happens among boxers in real life, which is harsh]].
* UnfortunateImplications - Subverted. The American Bryan Hawke was an insane racist that took joy in killings. Think about what this is probably saying about Americans for a second... And then it's subverted when you compare him with the ''other'' two Americans who appeared: one (David Eagle) was TheAce, the other was (Jason Ozma) a GentleGiant. Morikawa doesn't think ''that'' lowly of the {{Eagleland}}, people.

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* TearJerker - Many moments.
** One that's absolutely heartbreaking is [[spoiler: Kimura's championship fight against Mashiba. With his career and the title on the line, to come within an outstretched arm from winning the championship, and seeing the way he and Aoki begin crying really gets to you.]] Of course, [[spoiler: he does retire, as Tatsuya Kimura; however, with his name spelled in Katakana, he returns to the ring.]]
** Another heart wrenching moment is [[spoiler:After Sendo has defeated Volg for the championship, Volg's contract with his gym had been severed, and could have been severed any time he lost too many matches. Volg's farewell to Ippo at the airport, knowing that they might never be able to meet again, is incredibly heart breaking. Specially when Ippo can hold back the tears when in front of Volg... but he breaks down crying once he's gone.]]
** Watching Takamura of all people bawl his eyes out when he finds out the bear he spared (because [[MamaBear she had cubs]]) got shot and turned into his stew is pretty hard to watch. Mostly because Takamura can apparently be quite motivational when he's feeling strongly about something.
** Eiji Date's rematch against Ricardo Martinez. [[spoiler:An accidentally made GameBreakingInjury is what lead Date to not only lose against Ricardo but also retire from boxing permanently.]]
** How about Saeki's match against Itagaki? [[spoiler: Seeing him lose like that is heartbreaking, because he was fighting for Karasawa, who retired but was unhappy with his life. This is likely something that happens among boxers in real life, which is harsh]].
* UnfortunateImplications -
UnfortunateImplications: Subverted. The American Bryan Hawke was an insane racist that took joy in killings. Think about what this is probably saying about Americans for a second... And then it's subverted when you compare him with the ''other'' two Americans who appeared: one (David Eagle) was TheAce, the other was (Jason Ozma) a GentleGiant. Morikawa doesn't think ''that'' lowly of the {{Eagleland}}, people.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic - [[spoiler:Mashiba]] growing a ''horn-like bump''? [[IncrediblyLamePun Hell yes!]] Malcolm Gedo's face also looks a lot like a skull when he is smiling in the ring

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic - WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: [[spoiler:Mashiba]] growing a ''horn-like bump''? [[IncrediblyLamePun Hell yes!]] Malcolm Gedo's face also looks a lot like a skull when he is smiling in the ring
22nd Jun '14 1:19:44 PM creader
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* NightmareFuel - Hawk's red eyes... just... his red eyes.
** In all seriousness, Bryan himself is perhaps one of the scariest characters, due to his animalistic [[AxCrazy insanity.]]
** Mashiba is scary enough out of the ring, but when he really snaps… [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hajime_no_ippo/v74/c697/3.html you don't want to be in the ring with him.]]
** And another one in chapter 912 is a bit more [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hajime_no_ippo/v93/c912/4.html disturbing]], coming from Itagaki of all people…
15th Jan '14 3:12:53 PM TVRulezAgain
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** In the Takamura vs. Eagle fight, Takamura is apparently able to close a bleeding eye cut with sheer will. A wound which bleeding Kamogawa couldn't stop. A wound that would've stopped the match right then and there. [[spoiler: Of course, he then goes on to win the match while being completely blind.]]

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** In the Takamura vs. Eagle fight, Takamura is apparently able to close a bleeding eye cut with sheer will. A wound which bleeding Kamogawa couldn't stop. A wound that would've stopped the match right then and there. [[spoiler: Of course, he He then goes on to win the match while being completely blind.]]



* CompleteMonster - Bryan Hawk is as close to one as you can get in a realistic boxing series. He's the only person without a FreudianExcuse in the series that is a racist PsychoForHire asshole that takes joy in his killings. He even got into boxing '''just to kill people'''!
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