History YMMV / Guyver

2nd Aug '16 11:21:35 AM CaptainMar-Vell92
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* EvenBetterSequel: Guyver: Dark Hero is generally considered an improvement over the first movie due to a more serious tone, less camp and better action sequences and special effects. The presence of DavidHayter as the main chatacter also helps.
6th Mar '16 11:37:08 AM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Cabral]] Khan is one of the 12 Zoalords appointed by [[BigBad Archanfel]] and by far the vilest. The others all have loyalty to their master or some other redeeming quality, but Khan sheds that after he, along with Jabir Ibn Hayyan and Luggnagg de Krumeggnic, [[TheStarscream betrays Archanfel]]. Trapping Aptom in an AndIMustScream state, he uses him as bait to trap [[TheHero Sho Fukamachi]] and Toshiaki Hayami. When they manage to free themselves, he allows them to free Aptom, then hijacks Aptom's brain and uses him as a weapon to murder them both. Forcing Aptom to devour every Zoanoid in sight, all of whom are [[BadBoss on Khan's side]], he forces Aptom to torture Hayami to death. When Sho forcibly frees Aptom from the parasitic mind control device, Khan flies into a rage and broadcasts a signal to every civilian Zoanoid all over the city. Unable to stop themselves, thousands of fathers, brothers, and lovers march to their deaths as Khan eats them all alive. The audience even sees their loved ones begging them to stop, but they can't. Absorbing them to fuel his Dragon Burst transformation, he [[OneWingedAngel becomes a giant monster]] and starts frantically trying to murder Sho and Aptom. This is how he also murdered the last of the resistance in the days after X Day; we don't see the battle but the aftermath is horrifying. When Sho unveils the Gigantic Exceed, Khan devours even more people to become even stronger. No one, not even Richard Guyot or Archanfel, matched Khan in wickedness.
20th Feb '16 5:43:29 AM starofjusticev21
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* FauxSymbolism: A common interpretation of the big bad's name is Archanfel. Arch-angel-fell? It also helps that Archanfel's battle form is a golden angelic like being. And the fact that in one scene he parts water very much like Moses to save an ally of his. Nope, no religious connections here.

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* FauxSymbolism: A common interpretation of the big bad's name is Archanfel. Arch-angel-fell? It also helps that Archanfel's battle form is a golden angelic like being. And the fact that in one scene he parts water very much like Moses to save an ally of his. Nope, no religious connections connotations here.
16th Nov '14 8:58:13 AM MagBas
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* UnfortunateImplications: The Cadre of Rogue Zoalords. Clumegnig, ibn Hayyan, and Khan are neither of Western origin or Japanese. All three of them wear clothing, in and out of battle, that seems to fit of a more tribal or non-Western apperance. Clumegnig, of an unknown African or Indonesian nation, has tattos and gold bands, ibn Hayyan, who appears to be of the Middle East or India, wears a turban, and Khan, most likely of Mongolia, has armor and headwear of older years. All though to be fair the first rogue Zoalord was Richard Guyot, most likely an American or German.
10th Sep '14 3:14:15 PM NKfloofiepoof
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** Some vibes between Sho and Murakami in the anime, and a ''lot'' between Tetsuro and Sho - even Mizuki comments on it.
8th Aug '14 9:12:35 PM Angeldeb82
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation Quite a bit. Biggest has Imakarum's relationship with Archanfel. Some believe that [[spoiler: Murakami didn't get brainwashed or was persuaded to join the Zoalords but was in fact an agent of Archanfel's to root out possible threats. It certainly clears up more questions, with little clues as to how or where the two meet. Then some see them as lovers.]]

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation AlternativeCharacterInterpretation Quite a bit. Biggest has Imakarum's relationship with Archanfel. Some believe that [[spoiler: Murakami didn't get brainwashed or was persuaded to join the Zoalords but was in fact an agent of Archanfel's to root out possible threats. It certainly clears up more questions, with little clues as to how or where the two meet. Then some see them as lovers.]]



* FetishFuel: Guyver II-F

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* FetishFuel: FauxSymbolism: A common interpretation of the big bad's name is Archanfel. Arch-angel-fell? It also helps that Archanfel's battle form is a golden angelic like being. And the fact that in one scene he parts water very much like Moses to save an ally of his. Nope, no religious connections here.
** Consider, though, that his past ''inverts'' the symbolism: Archanfel was ''loyal'' to the Advents, and took up arms against
Guyver II-FZero -- ''the first rebel''. This is basically a case of God kicking ''Michael'' out of heaven after Lucifer's rebellion...



* RealWomenNeverWearDresses: Shizu, an ActionGirl who in the first anime shot at a Zoanoid with a gun, dresses the most femininely of the female characters.

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* RealWomenNeverWearDresses: RealWomenDontWearDresses: Shizu, an ActionGirl who in the first anime shot at a Zoanoid with a gun, dresses the most femininely of the female characters.



* UncannyValley. When Shizu first appeared Takaya did not design her too well. However considering he drew other females pretty well this might have been intentional after all. However with his art improving and/or intentional re-designs Shizu has become quite attractive. Seriously can we get a link to her first few panels?

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* UncannyValley. UncannyValley: When Shizu first appeared Takaya did not design her too well. However considering he drew other females pretty well this might have been intentional after all. However with his art improving and/or intentional re-designs Shizu has become quite attractive. Seriously can we get a link to her first few panels?



* VillainDecay: In a way [[spoiler: Richard Guyot]] sure he started off ambitious and powerful. But since his return so far all he's done is act crazy and look menacing to the ready. It won't be surprising if an ace up his sleeve wasn't mentioned long ago returns him to his former glory. Hopefully [[spoiler: teaming up with the remaining two rogue Zoalords will start his climb back up to the top]].
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic?: A common interpretation of the big bad's name is Archanfel. Arch-angel-fell? It also helps that Archanfel's battle form is a golden angelic like being. And the fact that in one scene he parts water very much like Moses to save an ally of his. Nope, no religious connections here.
** Consider, though, that his past ''inverts'' the symbolism: Archanfel was ''loyal'' to the Advents, and took up arms against Guyver Zero -- ''the first rebel''. This is basically a case of God kicking ''Michael'' out of heaven after Lucifer's rebellion...

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* VillainDecay: In a way [[spoiler: Richard Guyot]] sure he started off ambitious and powerful. But since his return so far all he's done is act crazy and look menacing to the ready. It won't be surprising if an ace up his sleeve wasn't mentioned long ago returns him to his former glory. Hopefully [[spoiler: teaming up with the remaining two rogue Zoalords will start his climb back up to the top]].
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic?: A common interpretation of the big bad's name is Archanfel. Arch-angel-fell? It also helps that Archanfel's battle form is a golden angelic like being. And the fact that in one scene he parts water very much like Moses to save an ally of his. Nope, no religious connections here.
** Consider, though, that his past ''inverts'' the symbolism: Archanfel was ''loyal'' to the Advents, and took up arms against Guyver Zero -- ''the first rebel''. This is basically a case of God kicking ''Michael'' out of heaven after Lucifer's rebellion...
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26th Mar '14 6:44:12 PM roman55
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* [[spoiler: Waferdanos and Li Yentsui's death. For all the trouble Li and Waferdanos went through to try to defeat Agito, even if one roots for Agito, it's hard to feel sorry for Li's efforts failing.]]

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* ** [[spoiler: Waferdanos and Li Yentsui's death. For all the trouble Li and Waferdanos went through to try to defeat Agito, even if one roots for Agito, it's hard to feel sorry for Li's efforts failing.]]
26th Mar '14 6:43:50 PM roman55
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** Lisker. Having a Guyver for a bad guy would have been awesome. Even Takaya considered his short role a waste of a good character. The 2005 anime rectifies this by keeping him around for a bit longer.

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** Lisker. Having a Guyver for a bad guy would have been awesome. awesome, but he ends up dead early on in the first volume. Even Takaya considered his short role a waste of a good the character. The 2005 anime rectifies this by keeping him around for a bit longer.
26th Mar '14 6:41:58 PM roman55
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** Having a Guyver for a bad guy would have been awesome.

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** Lisker. Having a Guyver for a bad guy would have been awesome.awesome. Even Takaya considered his short role a waste of a good character. The 2005 anime rectifies this by keeping him around for a bit longer.
5th Feb '14 5:07:50 PM Ecclytennysmithylove
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Hyper Zoanoid Team Five, especially ZX-Tole and Thancrus. Nearly every Hyper Zoanoid and special Zoanoids. Some fans still hope that another Zerebuth or Enzyme I will pop up but the king of them is easily Purgstall, and people like Shin and Hayami as well. Guyver I's disguise state from a recent chapter has gottne a lot of positive feedback after appearing for just four pages.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Hyper Zoanoid Team Five, especially ZX-Tole and Thancrus. Nearly every Hyper Zoanoid and special Zoanoids. Some fans still hope that another Zerebuth or Enzyme I will pop up but the king of them is easily Purgstall, and people like Shin and Hayami as well. Guyver I's disguise state from a recent chapter has gottne gotten a lot of positive feedback after appearing for just four pages.



* RealWomenNeverWearDresses: Shizu, an ActionGirl who in the first anime shot at a zoanoid with a gun, dresses the most femininely of the female characters.
* SoBadItsGood: the first live-action movie is a great example of this. The movie is very confused whether it wants to be treated seriously or not. It's got scene-cuts with short musical blasts like a cartoon, cheesy lines merely seconds away from serious exposition, a comic relief character with rap sequences, and a leitmotif stolen from Jaws during a shot where a blade sticks up from someone's chest like a shark's fin.

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* RealWomenNeverWearDresses: Shizu, an ActionGirl who in the first anime shot at a zoanoid Zoanoid with a gun, dresses the most femininely of the female characters.
* SoBadItsGood: the The first live-action movie is a great example of this. The movie is very confused whether it wants to be treated seriously or not. It's got scene-cuts with short musical blasts like a cartoon, cheesy lines merely seconds away from serious exposition, a comic relief character with rap sequences, and a leitmotif stolen from Jaws during a shot where a blade sticks up from someone's chest like a shark's fin.
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