History YMMV / Gremlins

20th Nov '16 3:21:33 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The first movie bothers to properly introduce several residents of Kingston Falls, even giving them detailed personalities and backstories. Most of them disappear in the second act or end up quick victims of the Gremlims' rampage. It's especially glaring with Gerald (played by Judge Reinhold) who is set up as a jerk deserving of some comeuppance -- and is then never seen again after his second scene in the tavern (though is terrorised in a deleted scene). The sequel seems to go out of it's way to avoid the same mistake, even bringing back a handful of the original cast to be utilised more fully.
* ToughActToFollow: Joe Dante's most popular and successful movie, as well as the one he seems to be proudest of. Most of his movies that followed have received mediocre to negative reception, if they haven't completely disappeared into obscurity.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The first movie bothers to properly introduce several residents of Kingston Falls, even giving them detailed personalities and backstories. Most of them disappear in the second act or end up quick victims of the Gremlims' rampage. It's especially glaring with Gerald (played by Judge Reinhold) who is set up as a jerk deserving of some comeuppance -- and is then never seen again after his second scene in the tavern (though he is terrorised in a deleted scene). The sequel seems to go out of it's way to avoid the same mistake, even bringing back a handful of the original cast to be utilised more fully.
* ToughActToFollow: Joe Dante's Creator/JoeDante's most popular and successful movie, as well as the one he seems to be proudest of. Most of his movies that followed have received mediocre to negative reception, if they haven't completely disappeared into obscurity.
26th Sep '16 12:45:48 PM MrMediaGuy2
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* AccidentalAesop: Think about the responsibility before you get a pet.
10th Sep '16 5:28:23 PM NWolfman
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* UnfortunateImplications: Several critics [[http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/05/the-50-most-racist-movies/gremlins argue]] that the film is an extended metaphor for white suburbia's fear of black culture. This comes up as a joke in ''Film/DearWhitePeople.''

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* ToughActToFollow: Joe Dante's most popular and successful movie, as well as the one he seems to be proudest of. Most of his movies that followed have received mediocre to negative reception, if they haven't completely disappeared into obscurity.
* UnfortunateImplications: Several critics There exists [[http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/05/the-50-most-racist-movies/gremlins argue]] a theory]] that the film is an extended metaphor for white suburbia's fear of black culture. This comes up as a joke in ''Film/DearWhitePeople.''
10th Sep '16 5:26:26 PM NWolfman
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* UnfortunateImplications: Several critics [[http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/05/the-50-most-racist-movies/gremlins argue]] that the film is an extended metaphor for white suburbia's fear of black culture.

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* UnfortunateImplications: Several critics [[http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/05/the-50-most-racist-movies/gremlins argue]] that the film is an extended metaphor for white suburbia's fear of black culture. This comes up as a joke in ''Film/DearWhitePeople.''
18th Jun '16 7:49:17 AM erforce
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic
** Music/JerryGoldsmith [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eicf5TbIM1g strikes again]].
** The question is, which is better? The original [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBEYCbamxIQ Gremlin Rag]] or the more up-tempo [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0PbjKZGYxg Gremlin Theme]] from the sequel?
** Music/PeterGabriel's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7crfAIKBro Out Out]], which plays in the bar scene from the first movie.



* BrokenBase: Because the two films are so radically different in tone, it's practically an even split between fans who prefer the darkly comic angle of the original or the manic, live-action cartoon vibe of the sequel. Finding someone with an equally positive opinion of both is fairly rare.
* CreepyAwesome: Stripe.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome
** Music/JerryGoldsmith [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eicf5TbIM1g strikes again]].
** The question is, which is better? The original [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBEYCbamxIQ Gremlin Rag]] or the more up-tempo [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0PbjKZGYxg Gremlin Theme]] from the sequel?
** PeterGabriel's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7crfAIKBro Out Out]], which plays in the bar scene from the first movie.
** Brain Gremlin in the sequel singing "New York, New York".
** The NES video game of the second film has a pretty damn good soundtrack too.
** Faith No More's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cpr2k9_3qY Surprise! You're Dead!]] plays in one of the many scenes where mohawk is torturing Gizmo in the second movie. Also, Slayer's Angel of Death playing in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvYACIdQIYo this scene]]
* EvilIsCool: Stripe, probably the only gremlin in the first film who's both totally evil and [[GenreSavvy wickedly smart]].
* HarsherInHindsight: At the end of the first movie, the old Chinese man says (to the American family), "You have done with the mogwai what your society has done with ALL of nature's gifts!" Fast forward 30 years to the ecological nightmare that is modern China…

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* BrokenBase: Because the two films are so radically different in tone, it's practically an even split between fans who prefer the darkly comic angle of the original or the manic, live-action cartoon vibe of the sequel. Finding someone with an equally positive opinion of both is fairly rare.
*
%%* CreepyAwesome: Stripe.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome
** Music/JerryGoldsmith [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eicf5TbIM1g strikes again]].
** The question is, which is better? The original [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBEYCbamxIQ Gremlin Rag]] or the more up-tempo [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0PbjKZGYxg Gremlin Theme]] from the sequel?
** PeterGabriel's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7crfAIKBro Out Out]], which plays in the bar scene from the first movie.
** Brain Gremlin in the sequel singing "New York, New York".
** The NES video game of the second film has a pretty damn good soundtrack too.
** Faith No More's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cpr2k9_3qY Surprise! You're Dead!]] plays in one of the many scenes where mohawk is torturing Gizmo in the second movie. Also, Slayer's Angel of Death playing in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvYACIdQIYo this scene]]
* EvilIsCool: Stripe, probably the only gremlin in the first film who's both totally evil and [[GenreSavvy wickedly smart]].
* HarsherInHindsight: At the end of the first movie, the old Chinese man says (to the American family), "You have done with the mogwai what your society has done with ALL of nature's gifts!" Fast forward 30 years to the ecological nightmare that is modern China…China....



* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The Atari video game based on the first film is rather badly done. Likewise,the Game Boy adaptation of the second film wasn't well received.
** Averted for the NES adaptation of the second film, however, which was nominated for several awards.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The Atari video game based on the first film is rather badly done. Likewise,the Game Boy adaptation of the second film wasn't well received.
** Averted for the NES adaptation of the second film, however, which was nominated for several awards.
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9th Jun '16 5:41:15 AM Psi001
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The first movie bothers to properly introduce several residents of Kingston Falls, even giving them detailed personalities and backstories. Most of them disappear in the second act or end up quick victims of the Gremlims' rampage. It's especially glaring with Gerald (played by Judge Reinhold) who is set up as a jerk deserving of some comeuppance -- and is then never seen again after his second scene in the tavern. The sequel seems to go out of it's way to avoid the same mistake, even bringing back a handful of the original cast to be utilised more fully.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The first movie bothers to properly introduce several residents of Kingston Falls, even giving them detailed personalities and backstories. Most of them disappear in the second act or end up quick victims of the Gremlims' rampage. It's especially glaring with Gerald (played by Judge Reinhold) who is set up as a jerk deserving of some comeuppance -- and is then never seen again after his second scene in the tavern.tavern (though is terrorised in a deleted scene). The sequel seems to go out of it's way to avoid the same mistake, even bringing back a handful of the original cast to be utilised more fully.
18th Apr '16 2:00:14 AM Ravenya003
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The first movie bothers to properly introduce several residents of Kingston Falls, even giving them detailed personalities and backstories. Most of them disappear in the second act or end up quick victims of the Gremlims' rampage. The sequel seems to go out of it's way to avoid the same mistake, even bringing back a handful of the original cast to be utilised more fully.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The first movie bothers to properly introduce several residents of Kingston Falls, even giving them detailed personalities and backstories. Most of them disappear in the second act or end up quick victims of the Gremlims' rampage. It's especially glaring with Gerald (played by Judge Reinhold) who is set up as a jerk deserving of some comeuppance -- and is then never seen again after his second scene in the tavern. The sequel seems to go out of it's way to avoid the same mistake, even bringing back a handful of the original cast to be utilised more fully.
10th Feb '16 5:49:01 PM SnakeRambo
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* IAmNotShazam:
** For the record, the main gremlin's name is "Stripe" not "Spike", and the lead gremlin in the sequel is officially named Mohawk (though WordOfGod suggests that they are indeed the same character, reincarnated).
** The only time the titular monsters are actually referred to as "gremlins" in universe is when Mr. Futterman yells "There's a real gremlin in my snowplow!" in the first movie. (Hulk Hogan refers to them as gremlins in the sequel, but that's technically not part of the story as the gremlins have [[BreakingTheFourthWall invaded the theater and interrupted the movie.]])

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* IAmNotShazam:
**
IAmNotShazam: For the record, the main gremlin's name is "Stripe" not "Spike", and the lead gremlin in the sequel is officially named Mohawk (though WordOfGod suggests that they are indeed the same character, reincarnated).
** The only time the titular monsters are actually referred to as "gremlins" in universe is when Mr. Futterman yells "There's a real gremlin in my snowplow!" in the first movie. (Hulk Hogan refers to them as gremlins in the sequel, but that's technically not part of the story as the gremlins have [[BreakingTheFourthWall invaded the theater and interrupted the movie.]])
reincarnated).
27th Jan '16 2:40:37 PM undertroper
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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eicf5TbIM1g Jerry Goldsmith strikes again]].

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** Music/JerryGoldsmith [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eicf5TbIM1g Jerry Goldsmith strikes again]].
18th Dec '15 11:06:18 AM ErikModi
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** Done intentionally. WordOfGod is that the scene is supposed to be emotionally complex, and the audience isn't supposed be sure whether they should be empathizing with Kate's tragedy or laughing at the absurdity of the situation. Intended to encapsulate the emotion of the film as a whole: are the Gremlins nightmare monsters who cause carnage, destruction, and death everywhere they go, or gleeful live-action cartoons just being silly?
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