History YMMV / GreenLantern

10th Jan '18 4:03:25 PM EternityofSpirits
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* ToughActToFollow: Geoff Johns ten years on the franchise, which not only propelled the book into a stable part of DC canon, but introduced the now iconic aspect of the Emotional Spectrum and other Lantern Corps, and was popular enough to support an entire CrisisCrossover. Good luck matching that.
30th Dec '17 1:36:49 PM MCanter89
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Fans rebelled so much against Hal's {{Face Heel Turn}} that the Parallax possession was eventually created to explain it.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Fans rebelled so much against Hal's {{Face Heel Turn}} FaceHeelTurn that the Parallax possession was eventually created to explain it.



** The Green Lantern books not being affected by the New 52, at least less so than other books (Alan Scott, the original Green Lantern, now no longer exists on Earth 1, which DC keeps pushing as the main/primary universe, which seriously alters the back story of Kyle Rayner since Alan was his mentor, and had his sexual orientation altered for what many believed was a cheap publicity stunt when he was shunted to Earth 2) to the point that the only costume change to Carol Ferris' Star Sapphire costume would be overhauled a year after the reboot and a slight variation to Hal's uniform from before the reboot. Whilst some are happy that nothing changed, others aren't happy that literally every other character in DC's roster that wasn't directly tied to the Lanterns underwent some sort of overhaul and every book had a creative team shake-up, whilst Johns got to stay on ''Green Lantern'' and keep all of his work in continuity.

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** The Green Lantern books not being affected by the New 52, at least less so than other books (Alan Scott, the original Green Lantern, now no longer exists on Earth 1, which DC keeps pushing as the main/primary universe, which seriously alters the back story of Kyle Rayner since Alan was his mentor, and had his sexual orientation altered for what many believed was a cheap publicity stunt when he was shunted to Earth 2) to the point that the only costume change to Carol Ferris' Ferris's Star Sapphire costume would be overhauled a year after the reboot and a slight variation to Hal's uniform from before the reboot. Whilst some are happy that nothing changed, others aren't happy that literally every other character in DC's roster that wasn't directly tied to the Lanterns underwent some sort of overhaul and every book had a creative team shake-up, whilst Johns got to stay on ''Green Lantern'' and keep all of his work in continuity.



* EthnicScrappy: UsefulNotes/{{The Silver Age|of Comic Books}} GreenLantern Hal Jordan had an Inuit sidekick called Pieface who served as his mechanic. Today, he is strictly called Tom Kalmaku and depicted with respect as an engineer. In a retelling of Hal's origin, the "Pieface" nickname is used by a {{Jerkass}} rival pilot.

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* EthnicScrappy: UsefulNotes/{{The Silver Age|of Comic Books}} GreenLantern Hal Jordan had an Inuit sidekick called Pieface who served as his mechanic. Today, he is strictly called Tom Kalmaku and depicted with respect as an engineer. In a retelling of Hal's origin, the "Pieface" nickname is used by a {{Jerkass}} {{jerkass}} rival pilot.



** There was an episode of ''WesternAnimation/AladdinTheSeries'' which featured multicoloured emotion-''inducing'' rings - including a yellow one which made you cowardly, an orange one that made you self-destructively greedy and a red one which made you suicidally angry - well before the Red and Orange Lanterns, and quite probably the modern Sinestro Corps, came onto the scene.

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** There was an episode of ''WesternAnimation/AladdinTheSeries'' which featured multicoloured emotion-''inducing'' rings - including a yellow one which made you cowardly, an orange one that made you self-destructively greedy and a red one which made you suicidally angry - well before the Red and Orange Lanterns, and quite probably the modern Sinestro Corps, came onto the scene.



** Also, the aftermath of [[spoiler: The death of Mogo.]]
** [[spoiler: The death of Sayd. As she holds off the Third Army alone, she pleads to the fleeing Lanterns to tell Ganthet she loved him. Thankfully she and Ganthet are reunited and happy in the end]].

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** Also, the aftermath of [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:the death of Mogo.]]
Mogo]].
** [[spoiler: The death of Sayd. As she holds off the Third Army alone, she pleads to the fleeing Lanterns to tell Ganthet she loved him. Thankfully Thankfully, she and Ganthet are reunited and happy in the end]].



** Hal's AdaptationalComicRelief, done by the writers to take advantage of Creator/RyanReynolds' comedic talents. Some fans love it for making an bland character interesting while others think [[WhatTheHellCastingAgency it was a horrible casting choice]].
** The Green Lantern costume. Some fans argued that it being a glowing CGI construct made sense since it's supposed to be created by the ring, while others argued that it looked silly and was a needless waste of CGI. This is exasperated by Green Lantern's classic comic outfit often being held up as one of the best superhero outfit designs of the Silver Age.
* ClicheStorm: Those that dislike the movie consider it to be this; those that do enjoy it, however, consider it to be a decent film that's very [[TropesAreNotBad campy and doesn't take itself too seriously.]]

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** Hal's AdaptationalComicRelief, done by the writers to take advantage of Creator/RyanReynolds' Creator/RyanReynolds's comedic talents. Some fans love it for making an bland character interesting while others think [[WhatTheHellCastingAgency it was a horrible casting choice]].
** The Green Lantern costume. Some fans argued that it being a glowing CGI construct made sense since it's supposed to be created by the ring, while others argued that it looked silly and was a needless waste of CGI. This is exasperated exacerbated by Green Lantern's classic comic outfit often being held up as one of the best superhero outfit designs of the Silver Age.
* ClicheStorm: Those that who dislike the movie consider it to be this; those that who do enjoy it, however, consider it to be a decent film that's very [[TropesAreNotBad campy and doesn't take itself too seriously.]]seriously]].



* RetroactiveRecognition: Even though he was well known in his native UsefulNotes/NewZealand, the actor who played Thomas Kalmaku was Creator/TaikaWaititi, who would later become known among Americans as the director of ''Film/ThorRagnarok'', which is quite ironic considering how ''Green Lantern'' was DuelingMovies with Film/{{Thor}}.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Even though he was well known in his native UsefulNotes/NewZealand, the actor who played Thomas Kalmaku was Creator/TaikaWaititi, who would later become known among Americans as the director of ''Film/ThorRagnarok'', which is quite ironic considering how ''Green Lantern'' was DuelingMovies {{dueling|Movies}} with Film/{{Thor}}. ''Film/{{Thor}}''.



* SoOkayItsAverage: What most fans and the average cinema goer seemed to think of it. It was seen as the weakest superhero film in the Post-Nolan, MCU-Phase 1 era.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: What most fans and the average cinema goer cinema-goer seemed to think of it. It was seen as the weakest superhero film in the Post-Nolan, post-Nolan, MCU-Phase 1 era.



** Many fans were not encouraged by the trailers, partly due to the special effects being underwhelming and also due to the "Film/IronMan" vibe.

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** Many fans were not encouraged by the trailers, partly due to the special effects being underwhelming and also due to the "Film/IronMan" ''Film/IronMan'' vibe.



** Not necessarily a ''bad'' movie, but being the first major DC film after '. 'Film/TheDarkKnight'', ''Green Lantern'' had a lot to live up to comparatively speaking. The comparison isn't exactly fair in the first place as although they are "superhero" movies within that spectrum, they are in wildly different genres. ''The Dark Knight'' is a crime/vigilante drama while ''Green Lantern'' is a sci-fi SpaceOpera. Getting to theaters behind ''Film/{{Thor}}'' didn't help things either.
** For fans of the ''Franchise/{{DCAU}}'', John Stewart ''was'' Green Lantern, and in the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' series, he had the strongest CharacterDevelopment, and likewise was the main vehicle to introduce to the wider Green Lantern lore (Manhunters, Katma Tui, Guardians, other GL). The film by bringing the unfamiliar Hal Jordan, and likewise being highly earth-focused was seen as both inferior and a weak approach to introduce Green Lantern.

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** Not necessarily a ''bad'' movie, but being the first major DC film after '. 'Film/TheDarkKnight'', ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', ''Green Lantern'' had a lot to live up to comparatively speaking. The comparison isn't exactly fair in the first place place, as although they are "superhero" movies within that spectrum, they are in wildly different genres. ''The Dark Knight'' is a crime/vigilante drama drama, while ''Green Lantern'' is a sci-fi SpaceOpera. Getting to theaters behind ''Film/{{Thor}}'' didn't help things things, either.
** For fans of the ''Franchise/{{DCAU}}'', John Stewart ''was'' Green Lantern, and in the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' series, he had the strongest CharacterDevelopment, and likewise was the main vehicle to introduce to the wider Green Lantern lore (Manhunters, Katma Tui, Guardians, other GL). The film by bringing the unfamiliar Hal Jordan, and likewise being highly earth-focused was seen as both inferior and a weak approach to introduce Green Lantern.
17th Dec '17 10:38:41 AM Acomicfan1
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** Creator/GeoffJohns's Hal Jordan can come off as this at times. He's the Greatest of the Green Lanterns ([[CharacterShilling and he is constantly told so]]) and he can be as much a JerkAss as Guy Gardner but he is rarely be called on it.

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** Creator/GeoffJohns's Hal Jordan can come off as this at times. He's the Greatest of the Green Lanterns ([[CharacterShilling and he is constantly told so]]) and he can be as much a JerkAss as Guy Gardner but he is rarely be called on it.
3rd Dec '17 9:13:40 AM ACW
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** [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Ayria]], from ''Green Lantern Corps Quarterly'' #7's one-shot "Triumph of the Will", is a vicious, corrupt Green Lantern who uses his powers to oppress the residents of Aegri Somnia. Ayria has his forces brutally slaughter their way through the rebelling yellows on Aegri Somnia 2, resulting on millions of casualties on both sides, before establishing a holocaust and sending the yellows who remain into labor camps where they slowly and agonizingly perish by the millions to [[HumanResources fuel Ayria's power battery]]. A [[TheCaligula paranoid despot]] unable to take any form of perceived challenge to his rule, Ayria viciously tortures to death several members of his staff--including his own brother--for reasons as varied as apparent treachery to as petty to having no faith in his rule, and ultimately orders every single remaining yellow to be sent to the camps and executed after torturing one who swallows his ring--ultimately resulting in Ayria's downfall when the ring resonates with the dead yellow's will to resurrect the billions Ayria has killed to tear him to bloody shreds. An unrelenting dictator, Ayria proves even the ostensibly righteous Green Lanterns aren't immune to pure evil in their ranks.
2nd Dec '17 11:32:13 PM MasterHero
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* {{Anvillicious}}: When Robert Venditti started his run on the main ''Green Lantern'' book after Creator/GeoffJohns' departure, his first story arc revealed that excessive use of the emotional spectrum was damaging the fabric of reality itself and would eventually bring the universe to an early death. This led to the introduction of Relic, a new villain that survived the destruction of the universe that preceded the current one and attempts to destroy the Lantern Corps in a misguided effort to save reality, making him an intergalactic ecoterrorist. The allegory there was heavyhanded and everyone knew it, which was a detriment to the series.

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* {{Anvillicious}}: {{Anvilicious}}: When Robert Venditti started his run on the main ''Green Lantern'' book after Creator/GeoffJohns' departure, his first story arc revealed that excessive use of the emotional spectrum was damaging the fabric of reality itself and would eventually bring the universe to an early death. This led to the introduction of Relic, a new villain that survived the destruction of the universe that preceded the current one and attempts to destroy the Lantern Corps in a misguided effort to save reality, making him an intergalactic ecoterrorist. The allegory there was heavyhanded and everyone knew it, which was a detriment to the series.
2nd Dec '17 11:31:57 PM MasterHero
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* {{Anvillicious}}: When Robert Venditti started his run on the main ''Green Lantern'' book after Creator/GeoffJohns' departure, his first story arc revealed that excessive use of the emotional spectrum was damaging the fabric of reality itself and would eventually bring the universe to an early death. This led to the introduction of Relic, a new villain that survived the destruction of the universe that preceded the current one and attempts to destroy the Lantern Corps in a misguided effort to save reality, making him an intergalactic ecoterrorist. The allegory there was heavyhanded and everyone knew it, which was a detriment to the series.
30th Nov '17 9:19:57 AM ACW
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** [[MadScientist Krona]], also known as Entropy, is a self-styled scientist and a rogue Maltusian hell-bent on imposing his ideal of "order" on reality. Inadvertently responsible for the creation of the multiverse and evil itself through his experiments--most prominently the omnicidal [[ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths Anti-Monitor]] upon the creation of the antimatter universe--Krona's covert experimentation on the Manhunters, the soldiers of the Guardians of the Universe, resulted in them going haywire and decimating countless lives through Sector 666, leaving only five people alive. Eventually banished and reduced to primeval energy, Krona assumed the name of Entropy and, still intent on [[ForScience continuing his experiments]], took service under Nekron, intending to release him into the living universe. Later brought back into the universe through the efforts of Maltusian Controllers, Krona enslaved and then obliterated them, attempting to wage war on the consciousness of the universe, even destroying Earth to this cause--and attempting to destroy its soul in a fit of existential pique when it challenged his conceptions of the universe. By the time of ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'', Krona enslaves Parallax and the emotional entities to force his will upon all creation, taking over the Green Lantern Corps and destroying thousands of lives to his cause. Possessed of [[AGodAmI such a god complex]] that he is willing to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy entire universes]], Krona's only true desire to slake his unending thirst for knowledge, and remains one of the greatest threats in the DCU.



** [[MadScientist Krona]], also known as Entropy, is a self-styled scientist and a rogue Maltusian hell-bent on imposing his ideal of "order" on reality. Inadvertently responsible for the creation of the multiverse and evil itself through his experiments--most prominently the omnicidal [[ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths Anti-Monitor]] upon the creation of the antimatter universe--Krona's covert experimentation on the Manhunters, the soldiers of the Guardians of the Universe, resulted in them going haywire and decimating countless lives through Sector 666, leaving only five people alive. Eventually banished and reduced to primeval energy, Krona assumed the name of Entropy and, still intent on [[ForScience continuing his experiments]], took service under Nekron, intending to release him into the living universe. Later brought back into the universe through the efforts of Maltusian Controllers, Krona enslaved and then obliterated them, attempting to wage war on the consciousness of the universe, even destroying Earth to this cause--and attempting to destroy its soul in a fit of existential pique when it challenged his conceptions of the universe. By the time of ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'', Krona enslaves Parallax and the emotional entities to force his will upon all creation, taking over the Green Lantern Corps and destroying thousands of lives to his cause. Possessed of [[AGodAmI such a god complex]] that he is willing to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy entire universes]], Krona's only true desire to slake his unending thirst for knowledge, and remains one of the greatest threats in the DCU.
19th Nov '17 8:31:18 AM ACW
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** Krona's arrogance led to the creation of the multiverse and antimatter universe and/or evil[[note]]other versions involve entropy and the "universe being born old"[[/note]], but if that was just a result of him holding the IdiotBall, the stuff he did after that put him well across the MoralEventHorizon. ''War of the Green Lanterns'' retconned him into being the one who was behind the Manhunter's annihilating a sector, but we had seem him do far, far worse long before we learnt that, and at the absolute apex of his villainy he was callously destroying entire ''universes'' because he thought he could do better. The most chilling thing about him is that he can commit mass murder on a multiversal scale with zero compunction, [[TautologicalTemplar and believe he was completely in the right to do so.]]

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** Krona's arrogance led to [[MadScientist Krona]], also known as Entropy, is a self-styled scientist and a rogue Maltusian hell-bent on imposing his ideal of "order" on reality. Inadvertently responsible for the creation of the multiverse and evil itself through his experiments--most prominently the omnicidal [[ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths Anti-Monitor]] upon the creation of the antimatter universe--Krona's covert experimentation on the Manhunters, the soldiers of the Guardians of the Universe, resulted in them going haywire and decimating countless lives through Sector 666, leaving only five people alive. Eventually banished and reduced to primeval energy, Krona assumed the name of Entropy and, still intent on [[ForScience continuing his experiments]], took service under Nekron, intending to release him into the living universe. Later brought back into the universe and/or evil[[note]]other versions involve entropy through the efforts of Maltusian Controllers, Krona enslaved and then obliterated them, attempting to wage war on the "universe being born old"[[/note]], but if that was just a result of him holding the IdiotBall, the stuff he did after that put him well across the MoralEventHorizon. ''War consciousness of the Green Lanterns'' retconned him into being the one who was behind the Manhunter's annihilating a sector, but we had seem him do far, far worse long before we learnt that, and at the absolute apex of his villainy he was callously universe, even destroying entire ''universes'' because he thought he could do better. The most chilling thing about him is Earth to this cause--and attempting to destroy its soul in a fit of existential pique when it challenged his conceptions of the universe. By the time of ''ComicBook/BrightestDay'', Krona enslaves Parallax and the emotional entities to force his will upon all creation, taking over the Green Lantern Corps and destroying thousands of lives to his cause. Possessed of [[AGodAmI such a god complex]] that he can commit mass murder on a multiversal scale with zero compunction, [[TautologicalTemplar is willing to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy entire universes]], Krona's only true desire to slake his unending thirst for knowledge, and believe he was completely remains one of the greatest threats in the right to do so.]]DCU.
17th Nov '17 1:58:29 PM Acomicfan1
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** Creator/GeoffJohns's Hal Jordan can come off as this at times. He's the Greatest of Green Lanterns ([[CharacterShilling and he is constantly told so]]) and he can be as much a JerkAss as Guy Gardner but he is rarely be called on it.

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** Creator/GeoffJohns's Hal Jordan can come off as this at times. He's the Greatest of the Green Lanterns ([[CharacterShilling and he is constantly told so]]) and he can be as much a JerkAss as Guy Gardner but he is rarely be called on it.
17th Nov '17 1:57:30 PM Acomicfan1
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** Creator/GeoffJohns's Hal Jordan can come off as this at times. He's the Greatest of Green Lanterns, [[CharacterShilling and constantly told so] and he can be as much a JerkAss as Guy Gardner but he is rarely be called on it.

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** Creator/GeoffJohns's Hal Jordan can come off as this at times. He's the Greatest of Green Lanterns, [[CharacterShilling Lanterns ([[CharacterShilling and he is constantly told so] so]]) and he can be as much a JerkAss as Guy Gardner but he is rarely be called on it.
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