History YMMV / GrantMorrisonsBatman

26th Jan '16 2:44:49 PM Million_Dollar_Guy
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* TooGoodToLast: How many fans felt about Dick as Batman
23rd Jan '16 2:50:28 PM NSlayton5
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* BrokenBase: Batman [[spoiler: driving Joe Chill to suicide and doing nothing to stop it. It's all but murder.]]
28th Dec '15 2:14:24 AM MagBas
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* JerkSue: Much debate exists within the Bat-Fandom over whether Damian Wayne is a {{Deconstruction}} of one of these or one played very straight. He tends to get away with pulling a lot of shit that few others would get away with, but at the same time it's made very clear that no one really likes him that much.

* MartyStu: ** Again, debate rages over how true this is, but it is undeniable that Damian Wayne, at his first appearance, was the {{Scrappy}} and was even called CousinOliver in Red Robin #14. ** Batman[=/=]Bruce Wayne himself has been accused of this during Morrison's run.
25th Dec '15 5:40:52 PM nombretomado
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: SubvertedTrope InUniverse. Turns out that a good chunk of what happened to Batman in the SilverAge was because he ''was'' on drugs. Joker toxin, Scarecrow fear gas, and total isolation for a week to be exact. (And that's not even mentioning Creator/GrantMorrison's notorious habits...)
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: SubvertedTrope InUniverse. Turns out that a good chunk of what happened to Batman in the SilverAge UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}} was because he ''was'' on drugs. Joker toxin, Scarecrow fear gas, and total isolation for a week to be exact. (And that's not even mentioning Creator/GrantMorrison's notorious habits...)
4th Dec '15 3:47:29 AM OmarKarindu
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*CrossesTheLIneTwice: The Joker's first appearance in the series, shouting "I did it! I finally killed Batman! In front of a bunch of vulnerable, disabled kids! Now get me Santa Claus!" Followed by Batman throwing a badly wounded Joker into a dumpster. ** And then Batman and a Joker-Venom-addled Jim Gordon finding GallowsHumor in a news story about a terrorist beheading victim who happened to be obese: [[StrangeMindsThinkAlike "How did they manage to find his neck?"]]
29th Oct '15 11:10:07 AM RaustBD
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** And that's ignoring the fact that, in this continuity, she date-raped Batman to make Damian in the first place.
27th Oct '15 8:35:25 PM biznizz
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* CharacterRerailment: After several notoriously awful attempts to shoehorn Red Hood into the DCU (such as ComicBook/CountdownToFinalCrisis and the Nightwing "One Year Later" storyline), Morrison's run on Batman and Robin returned him back to relevancy as a psychotic villain and a dark reflection of Batman. However, it didn't last, as the New 52 reverted him back to an angsty teenage rebel.
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* CharacterRerailment: After several notoriously awful attempts to shoehorn Red Hood into the DCU (such as ComicBook/CountdownToFinalCrisis and the Nightwing "One Year Later" storyline), Morrison's run on Batman and Robin returned him back to relevancy as a psychotic villain and a dark reflection of Batman. However, it didn't last, as the New 52 reverted him back to an angsty teenage rebel.rebel, albeit one who's actually on fairly good terms with the Bat-Family, if not somewhat estranged.
10th Oct '15 12:54:34 PM nombretomado
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* FanNickname: [[{{Robin}} Dick]] [[{{Nightwing}} Grayson]] as Batman is either referred to as Bat-Dick or [=DickBats=] to differentiate him from Bruce, THE Batman.
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* FanNickname: [[{{Robin}} [[ComicBook/{{Robin}} Dick]] [[{{Nightwing}} [[ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} Grayson]] as Batman is either referred to as Bat-Dick or [=DickBats=] to differentiate him from Bruce, THE Batman.
9th Sep '15 7:28:42 PM flyingfishcake
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* CharacterRerailment: After several notoriously awful attempts to shoehorn Red Hood into the DCU (such as ComicBook/CountdownToFinalCrisis and the Nightwing "One Year Later" storyline), Morrison's run on Batman and Robin returned him back to relevancy as a psychotic villain and a dark reflection of Batman. However, it didn't last, as the New 52 reverted him back to an angsty teenage rebel.

* ProtectionFromEditors: Morrison's run is notably the ''only''[[note]]Whilst the ''ComicBook/GreenLantern'' books under GeoffJohns remain intact, they ''did'' undergo a major shake-up in the status quo at the time of the reboot[[/note]] thing to enter the New52 unscathed, with Batman Inc. Volume 2 carrying on his pre-reboot story completely independent of the other Bat Family titles. If the reader didn't know about the reboot, it would simply appear that everyone just decided to spontaneously change their costumes.
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* ProtectionFromEditors: While Morrison's run is notably survived the ''only''[[note]]Whilst the ''ComicBook/GreenLantern'' books under GeoffJohns remain New 52 reboot relatively intact, they ''did'' undergo a major shake-up in it did suffer from several changes, such as the status quo at absence of Oracle, Cassandra Cain, and Stephanie Brown, as well as a number of costume changes to make the time series part of the reboot[[/note]] thing to enter New 52 continuity. * RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Damian, throughout the New52 unscathed, with course of Batman Inc. Volume 2 carrying on and Robin, mellows out and shows not only his pre-reboot story completely independent of the other Bat Family titles. If the reader didn't know about the reboot, it would simply appear that everyone just decided softer side, but also his loyalty to spontaneously change their costumes.Dick.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Jason Todd's fanbase weren't happy with what Morrison had done with him, both in looks ([[DracoInLeatherPants HOW DARE THEY MAKE HIM UGLY!!]]) and [[FashionVictimVillain costume]]. And this is after his appearance in [[DesignatedVillain Battle for the Cowl]], the damage was so great they had to get [[Creator/JuddWinick the man]] who had originally brought Jason BackFromTheDead to [[CharacterRerailment fix it]]. Fans were even upset about Jason's ''hair''. In most post-Crisis continuity, Jason's hair is jet-black, but in pre-Crisis continuity, it was strawberry-blonde. Morrison tried to reconcile the two colors by stating that Jason was forced by Batman to dye his hair black to make him look more like Dick, which in turn makes Batman look like a jerk. However, there are a few problems with this. The first is the fact that the color is wrong. In ''Batman and Robin'', Jason is depicted with crimson-red hair, despite having been given strawberry-blonde hair in pre-Crisis[[note]]Compare a bright red to a pastel orange[[/note]]. The second is that in pre-Crisis continuity, Jason dyed his hair on his own volition in order to make himself look more like Dick. Batman had no say in it. And third is that Jason had been depicted with jet-black hair in situations where it would be implausible to have his hair dyed, such as the years he lived as an amnesiac vagrant in between escaping his grave and being taken in by Talia. Morrison seems to have retconned or ignored what he did to Jason as of Batman Inc (v2) #4.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Jason Todd's fanbase weren't happy with what Morrison had done with him, both in looks ([[DracoInLeatherPants HOW DARE THEY MAKE HIM UGLY!!]]) and [[FashionVictimVillain costume]]. And this is after his appearance in [[DesignatedVillain Battle for the Cowl]], the damage was so great they had to get [[Creator/JuddWinick the man]] who had originally brought Jason BackFromTheDead to [[CharacterRerailment fix it]]. Fans were even upset about Jason's ''hair''. In most post-Crisis continuity, Jason's hair is jet-black, but in pre-Crisis continuity, it was strawberry-blonde. Morrison tried to reconcile the two colors by stating that Jason was forced by Batman to dye his hair black to make him look more like Dick, which in turn makes Batman look like a jerk. However, there are a few problems with this. The first is the fact that the color is wrong. In ''Batman and Robin'', Jason is depicted with crimson-red hair, despite having been given strawberry-blonde hair in pre-Crisis[[note]]Compare a bright red to a pastel orange[[/note]]. The second is that in pre-Crisis continuity, Jason dyed his hair on his own volition in order to make himself look more like Dick. Batman had no say in it. And third is that Jason had been depicted with jet-black hair in situations where it would be implausible to have his hair dyed, such as the years he lived as an amnesiac vagrant in between escaping his grave and being taken in by Talia. Morrison seems to have retconned or ignored what he did to Jason as of Batman Inc (v2) #4.
22nd Aug '15 10:45:43 PM BatmanKalEl
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* FridgeHorror: In ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'', Batman was kidnapped by Darkseid's minions and had his DNA and memories harvested to produce a clone army. The clones went insane from the decades of emotional trauma the original had to go through and killed themselves. In the final issue of ''Batman Incorporated'', Ra's Al Ghul is revealed to have an army of cloned Damians. Considering that Damian has all the combat training his father has minus the years of tragedy that prevented Darkseid from having his army of Batmen, this means that Ra's Al Ghul has effectively learned from Darkseid's mistake. So much for [[{{NonIndicative Name}} Final Crisis]].
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