History YMMV / GrandTheftAutoViceCity

31st Aug '17 9:51:55 AM Manny20444
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** The race against [[TheScrappy Hilary]]. You have to race him in a BMW E28 expy sedan while he uses a special version of the Chevelle expy Sabre muscle car. You can't steal a better car, assuming you could even find one, because the sedan is mission-critical. Even if it weren't, in the time it takes to stop your sedan and jack another vehicle, Hilary will either catch up to you and pull ahead (if you're fortunate enough to be in the lead) or put even more distance between the two of you. The VCPD try to arrest you, and ''only you'', for street racing. Assuming you get ahead (or fall behind), Hilary actually drives even better because game mechanics only spawn NPC traffic in relation to your car (the road is functionally empty from his POV). Finally, there's a glitch on the bridge near the end of the track which can cause you to clip through and fall to your death. This one mission has singlehandedly spawned countless pages of text on Website/GameFAQS consisting of ''nothing'' but every method and theory in the world to win it.\\
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** The race against [[TheScrappy Hilary]]. You have to race him in a BMW E28 expy sedan while he uses a special version of the Chevelle expy Sabre muscle car. You can't steal a better car, assuming you could even find one, because the sedan is mission-critical. Even if it weren't, in the time it takes to stop your sedan and jack another vehicle, Hilary will either catch up to you and pull ahead (if you're fortunate enough to be in the lead) or put even more distance between the two of you. The VCPD try to arrest you, and ''only you'', for street racing. Assuming you get ahead (or fall behind), Hilary actually drives even better because game mechanics only spawn NPC traffic in relation to your car (the road is functionally empty from his POV). Finally, there's a glitch on the bridge near the end of the track which can cause you to clip through and fall to your death. This one mission has singlehandedly spawned countless pages of text on Website/GameFAQS consisting of ''nothing'' but every method and theory in the world to win it.\\
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31st Aug '17 6:29:39 AM Manny20444
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Part of what makes it so frustrating is that you're racing Hilary so that he will be your driver for a bank heist. Putting aside the fact that [[FridgeLogic you're hiring him specifically because he's supposed to be better at this than you]], [[spoiler: he's gunned down just seconds after showing up to pull your bacon out of the fire, resulting in an unnecessarily hard escape sequence against the heavily armed SWAT team. [[ShaggyDogStory You might as well have not hired him to begin with, ultimately making that awful race pointless.]] ]]

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*** Part of what makes it so frustrating is that you're racing Hilary so that he will be your driver for a bank heist. Putting aside the fact that [[FridgeLogic you're hiring him specifically because he's supposed to be better at this than you]], [[spoiler: he's gunned down just seconds after showing up to pull your bacon out of the fire, resulting in an unnecessarily hard escape sequence against the heavily armed SWAT team. [[ShaggyDogStory You might as well have not hired him to begin with, ultimately making that awful race pointless.]] ]]
18th Aug '17 12:32:07 AM DivineDeath
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* TheScrappy: Nobody likes Lance Vance. [[TheMillstone Not only does he constantly cause trouble for Tommy]], [[TheLoad he also whines that Tommy isn't treating him fairly even though Tommy not only saved his life, but carried him throughout all of their criminal endeavors]]. (Lance seems to be blowing ''some'' of it out of proportion, but to be fair Tommy ''is'' pretty shitty towards him at the start of "Bar Brawl" and responds to Lance calling him on it by basically saying "Well, you fucked up. If you don't want to get yelled at in front of the boys any more, don't fuck up any more.") [[spoiler: All of this was probably just so that the player would enjoy killing him in the final mission when he betrays Tommy.]] Also, [[TeenyWeenie his junk seems to be underdeveloped; at least compared to Tommy's.]]
** Hilary also counts as this, not just for being a [[ThatOneLevel pain in the ass to recruit]], but ultimately failing in his mission by getting killed mere minutes into the heist and rendering his tedious level '''completely pointless'''.



* TheScrappy: Nobody likes Lance Vance. [[TheMillstone Not only does he constantly cause trouble for Tommy]], [[TheLoad he also whines that Tommy isn't treating him fairly even though Tommy not only saved his life, but carried him throughout all of their criminal endeavors]]. (Lance seems to be blowing ''some'' of it out of proportion, but to be fair Tommy ''is'' pretty shitty towards him at the start of "Bar Brawl" and responds to Lance calling him on it by basically saying "Well, you fucked up. If you don't want to get yelled at in front of the boys any more, don't fuck up any more.") [[spoiler: All of this was probably just so that the player would enjoy killing him in the final mission when he betrays Tommy.]] Also, [[TeenyWeenie his junk seems to be underdeveloped; at least compared to Tommy's.]]
** Hilary also counts as this, not just for being a [[ThatOneLevel pain in the ass to recruit]], but ultimately failing in his mission by getting killed mere minutes into the heist and rendering his tedious level '''completely pointless'''.


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* TheUntwist: It's pretty obvious after the first mission that [[spoiler:Ricardo Diaz was behind the attack on the drug deal at the beginning of the game. In his first appearance, he tells Cortez there are "barbarians at the gates" who are trying to muscle in on his business, and Mercedes even describes him as Vice City's coke baron. In fact, it's ''so'' obvious that there's no real reveal; Tommy and Lance just casually mention that they figured it out and implicitly did so when they started working for him, if not before.]]
22nd Jul '17 3:56:03 AM Meyers07TheTroper
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** This scrappy mechanic eventually returned in GTA V and even worse as you can no longer use Pay 'N' Spray to evade the cops.



** The race against [[TheScrappy Hilary]]. You have to race him in an (admittedly decent performance) sedan while he uses a supercharged muscle car. You can't steal a better car, assuming you could even find one, because the sedan is mission-critical. Even if it weren't, in the time it takes to stop your sedan and jack another vehicle, Hilary will either catch up to you and pull ahead (if you're fortunate enough to be in the lead) or put even more distance between the two of you. The VCPD try to arrest you, and ''only you'', for street racing. Assuming you get ahead (or fall behind), Hilary actually drives even better because game mechanics only spawn NPC traffic in relation to your car (the road is functionally empty from his POV). Finally, there's a glitch on the bridge near the end of the track which can cause you to clip through and fall to your death. This one mission has singlehandedly spawned countless pages of text on Website/GameFAQS consisting of ''nothing'' but every method and theory in the world to win it.\\

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** The race against [[TheScrappy Hilary]]. You have to race him in an (admittedly decent performance) a BMW E28 expy sedan while he uses a supercharged special version of the Chevelle expy Sabre muscle car. You can't steal a better car, assuming you could even find one, because the sedan is mission-critical. Even if it weren't, in the time it takes to stop your sedan and jack another vehicle, Hilary will either catch up to you and pull ahead (if you're fortunate enough to be in the lead) or put even more distance between the two of you. The VCPD try to arrest you, and ''only you'', for street racing. Assuming you get ahead (or fall behind), Hilary actually drives even better because game mechanics only spawn NPC traffic in relation to your car (the road is functionally empty from his POV). Finally, there's a glitch on the bridge near the end of the track which can cause you to clip through and fall to your death. This one mission has singlehandedly spawned countless pages of text on Website/GameFAQS consisting of ''nothing'' but every method and theory in the world to win it.\\



** That goddamn pizza man killing level ''definitely'' counts.
2nd Jun '17 6:42:37 AM mogryo
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* InformedWrongness: Some gamers believe that Tommy was a jerk to Lance and it was his attitude that caused Lance to turn on him. While Tommy did yell at Lance in the beginning of "Bar Brawl" (and gave him a BackhandedApology during the phone call), how do you really expect him to respond when Lance just sits on his ass drinking instead of doing something when the Front Page Cafe refuses to pay for protection? Let's not forget that Lance pretty much screws up half the time.
24th Feb '17 9:23:45 PM JC96
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: [[spoiler: Phil Cassidy accidentally getting his arm blown off can be this for some, who are quite aware of his potrayer, Gary Busey's motorcycle accident that currently leaves him with severe brain damage.]]

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: [[spoiler: Phil Cassidy accidentally getting his arm blown off can be this for some, who are quite aware of his potrayer, voice actor, Gary Busey's motorcycle accident that currently leaves him with severe brain damage.]]
24th Feb '17 1:54:30 PM JC96
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* {{FunnyAneurysmMoment}}: [[spoiler: Phil Cassidy accidentally getting his arm blown off can be this for some, who are quite aware of his potrayer, Gary Busey's motorcycle accident that currently leaves him with severe brain damage.]]

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* {{FunnyAneurysmMoment}}: FunnyAneurysmMoment: [[spoiler: Phil Cassidy accidentally getting his arm blown off can be this for some, who are quite aware of his potrayer, Gary Busey's motorcycle accident that currently leaves him with severe brain damage.]]
24th Feb '17 1:53:18 PM JC96
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* {{FunnyAneurysmMoment}}: [[spoiler: Phil Cassidy accidentally getting his arm blown off can be this for some, who are quite aware of his potrayer, Gary Busey's motorcycle accident that currently leaves him with severe brain damage.]]
4th Feb '17 10:16:43 PM CodyPurple
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* UncannyValley: Tommy Vercetti suffers from this during gameplay unlike in the cutscenes. When a cutscene plays, [[http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawiki/images/a/ae/TommyVercetti-GTAVC.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100627123509 you'll see a higher-quality model of Tommy complete with facial expressions and blinking.]] But during the gameplay, [[http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Tommy-Vercetti-GTA-Vice-City-Ray-Liotta-1.jpg we'll have a low-poly version of Tommy]] which looks like it's recycled from Claude, the main protagonist of VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto3, but [[NightmareFuel even more zombie-like.]]

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* UncannyValley: Tommy Vercetti suffers from this during gameplay unlike in the cutscenes. When a cutscene plays, [[http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawiki/images/a/ae/TommyVercetti-GTAVC.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100627123509 you'll see a higher-quality model of Tommy complete with facial expressions and blinking.]] But during the gameplay, [[http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Tommy-Vercetti-GTA-Vice-City-Ray-Liotta-1.jpg we'll have a low-poly version of Tommy]] which looks like it's recycled from Claude, the main protagonist of VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto3, VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII, but [[NightmareFuel even more zombie-like.]]
4th Feb '17 10:15:33 PM CodyPurple
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* UncannyValley: Tommy Vercetti suffers from this during gameplay unlike in the cutscenes. When a cutscene plays, [[http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawiki/images/a/ae/TommyVercetti-GTAVC.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100627123509 you'll see a higher-quality model of Tommy complete with facial expressions and blinking.]] But during the gameplay, [[http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Tommy-Vercetti-GTA-Vice-City-Ray-Liotta-1.jpg we'll have a low-poly version of Tommy]] which looks like it's recycled from Claude, the main protagonist of VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto3, but [[NightmareFuel even more zombie-like.]]
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