History YMMV / GrandTheftAutoV

24th Mar '17 9:33:28 AM skydiver75
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** While we're at it, slipstream is arguably just as bad. This feature causes vehicles driving in the wake of those in front of them to gain an insane amount of speed- making for easy last-second passes for the win. It also makes it much easier for [[{{Troll}} Trolls]] to come from behind and wreck you. [[note]] While real life racing utilizes the slipstream effect, it is nowhere near as powerful in the real world as it is in the game.[[/note]]


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** Vehicles in the biker delivery missions will wind up destroyed if they happen to become stuck- even if said vehicle is stuck on something as small as a rock in the middle of the desert.
18th Mar '17 8:56:46 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Then there's Michael himself who has several in-game interpretations. Supposedly the OnlySaneMan with an AwfulWeddedLife who sees himself as a JadedWashout disappointed with a lifestyle of shallow materialism, he's also described by both Trevor and his wife as a self-deluding hypocrite who in Amanda's words, 'kills people and then lounges in the sun and feels bad about it" while Trevor regards him, with some justice, as a [[spoiler: self-centered hypocrite who sold his friends for his own filthy rich lifestyle.]] Notably in the two alternate endings, [[spoiler:Michael is far more willing to betray Trevor than Franklin is, and he immediately justifies killing Trevor on grounds that he had it coming.]]

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** Then there's Michael himself who has several in-game interpretations. Supposedly the OnlySaneMan with an AwfulWeddedLife who sees himself as a JadedWashout disappointed with a lifestyle of shallow materialism, he's also described by both Trevor and his wife as a self-deluding hypocrite who in Amanda's words, 'kills "kills people and then lounges in the sun and feels bad about it" while Trevor regards him, with some justice, as a [[spoiler: self-centered hypocrite who sold his friends for his own filthy rich lifestyle.]] Notably in the two alternate endings, [[spoiler:Michael is far more willing to betray Trevor than Franklin is, and he immediately justifies killing Trevor on grounds that he had it coming.]]
17th Mar '17 5:07:24 AM fireboy769
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** Long John Teabag, a new phone contact introduced in the Bikers Update, has gained a lot of hate due to his annoying phone calls telling you that your Business is running out of supplies and you need to get some more. He says the same call ''every single time you enter a new session''. And it gets annoying ''very'' quickly, especially if you're doing Heists as he calls even if you're not registered as a Motorcycle Club President, bringing back some painful memories of "HEY NIKO! IT'S YOUR COUSIN! LET'S GO BOWLING!"

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** Long John Teabag, a new phone contact introduced in the Bikers Update, has gained a lot of hate due to his annoying phone calls telling you that your Business is running out of supplies and you need to get some more. He says the same call ''every single time you enter a new session''. And it gets annoying ''very'' quickly, especially if you're doing Heists as he calls even if you're not registered as a Motorcycle Club President, bringing back some painful memories of "HEY "[[GrandTheftAutoIV HEY NIKO! IT'S YOUR COUSIN! LET'S GO BOWLING!"BOWLING!]]"
17th Mar '17 5:05:01 AM fireboy769
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** Long John Teabag, a new phone contact introduced in the Bikers Update, has gained a lot of hate due to his annoying phone calls telling you that your Business is running out of supplies and you need to get some more. He says the same call every single time you enter a new session. And it gets annoying very quickly, especially if you're doing Heists as he calls even if you're not registered as a Motorcycle Club President, bringing back some painful memories of "HEY NIKO! IT'S YOUR COUSIN! LET'S GO BOWLING!"

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** Long John Teabag, a new phone contact introduced in the Bikers Update, has gained a lot of hate due to his annoying phone calls telling you that your Business is running out of supplies and you need to get some more. He says the same call every ''every single time you enter a new session. session''. And it gets annoying very ''very'' quickly, especially if you're doing Heists as he calls even if you're not registered as a Motorcycle Club President, bringing back some painful memories of "HEY NIKO! IT'S YOUR COUSIN! LET'S GO BOWLING!"
17th Mar '17 5:01:25 AM fireboy769
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** Long John Teabag, a new phone contact introduced in the Bikers Update, has gained a lot of hate due to his annoying phone calls telling you that your Business is running out of supplies and you need to get some more. He says the same call every single time you enter a new session. And it gets annoying very quickly, especially if you're doing Heists as he calls even if you're not registered as a Motorcycle Club President, bringing back some painful memories of "HEY NIKO! IT'S YOUR COUSIN! LET'S GO BOWLING!"
8th Feb '17 4:39:35 PM Mullon
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*** Some fans think Rockstar never put enough work into single player to begin with, citing the weak missions (see {{Padding}}) and rewards, and largely unused map as signs that the single player was far less of a focus if not a total afterthought to Rockstar compared to the much more financially lucrative multiplayer mode.
8th Feb '17 3:31:32 PM Jake18
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** A weaker story compared to [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas previous]] [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV games]], especially concerning the relationship between characters (see ArcFatigue) and weak villains (Steve Haines gets compared constantly against [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas officer Tempenny]] in an unfavorable way). Some people also note that two of the main villains (Stretch and Wei Cheng) only appear for two to three missions ''at most'' and then [[spoiler:they get unceremoniously killed in the last mission, like if they had an impact on the story]]. Speaking of which, just to add insult to injury [[spoiler:the bosses get killed in pretty anticlimactic ways, without leaving the player any satisfaction for getting rid of them.]].

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** A weaker story compared to [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas previous]] [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV games]], especially concerning the relationship between characters (see ArcFatigue) and weak villains (Steve Haines gets compared constantly against [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas officer Tempenny]] in an unfavorable way). Some people also note that two of the main villains (Stretch and Wei Cheng) only appear for two to three missions ''at most'' and then [[spoiler:they get unceremoniously killed in the last mission, like as if they had an impact on the story]]. Speaking of which, just to add insult to injury [[spoiler:the bosses get killed in pretty anticlimactic ways, without leaving the player any satisfaction for getting rid of them.]].
8th Feb '17 2:52:07 PM Jake18
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** The left wing criticisms (particularly on the Liberal Superhero show "Impotent Rage") are just as heavy-handed: basically, if the right-wing are the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName neo-Fascists]] [[FascistButEfficient who at least get their blatantly evil agenda done in a timely and efficient manner]], the left-wing can be summarized as GoodIsDumb. ''[[WhatAnIdiot Really, Really, REALLY dumb.]]'' [[TheHypocrite Their]] efforts to better society end up being sidelined by an unwillingness to confront the conservatives, and sometimes [[NiceJobBreakingItHero their efforts make society even WORSE]]. In particular, their message of environmentalism is undercut by flying private jumbo jets to accept the awards, they want to legalize weed, heroin and crack for the mass market, and their needs to have workers unionize and demand outrageous wage hikes and personal benefits are becoming so expensive that corporations are outsourcing to the third world and China (note that the developers just acknowledge the left-wing is causing this; they also criticize outsourcing at several points, most notably in ending C [[spoiler:as part of the TheReasonYouSuckSpeech against Devin Weston]]) and the sense of self-entitlement the middle class has means workers are too lazy to work anyways. And considering AudienceSurrogate [[LazyBum Jimmy]] is depicted as an EntitledBastard from this depiction of the middle class, this message is probably more likely to dig under the skin of GTA fans than the right-wing criticisms.

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** The left wing criticisms (particularly on the Liberal Superhero show "Impotent Rage") are just as heavy-handed: basically, if the right-wing are the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName neo-Fascists]] [[FascistButEfficient [[NoDelaysForTheWicked who at least get their blatantly evil agenda done in a timely and efficient manner]], the left-wing can be summarized as GoodIsDumb. ''[[WhatAnIdiot Really, Really, REALLY dumb.]]'' [[TheHypocrite Their]] efforts to better society end up being sidelined by an unwillingness to confront the conservatives, and sometimes [[NiceJobBreakingItHero their efforts make society even WORSE]]. In particular, their message of environmentalism is undercut by flying private jumbo jets to accept the awards, they want to legalize weed, heroin and crack for the mass market, and their needs to have workers unionize and demand outrageous wage hikes and personal benefits are becoming so expensive that corporations are outsourcing to the third world and China (note that the developers just acknowledge the left-wing is causing this; they also criticize outsourcing at several points, most notably in ending C [[spoiler:as part of the TheReasonYouSuckSpeech against Devin Weston]]) and the sense of self-entitlement the middle class has means workers are too lazy to work anyways. And considering AudienceSurrogate [[LazyBum Jimmy]] is depicted as an EntitledBastard from this depiction of the middle class, this message is probably more likely to dig under the skin of GTA fans than the right-wing criticisms.
8th Feb '17 2:50:35 PM Jake18
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** The left wing criticisms (particularly on the Liberal Superhero show "Impotent Rage") are just as heavy-handed: basically, if the right-wing are the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName neo-Fascists]] [[NoDelaysForTheWicked who at least get their blatantly evil agenda done in a timely and efficient manner]], the left-wing can be summarized as GoodIsDumb. ''[[WhatAnIdiot Really, Really, REALLY dumb.]]'' [[TheHypocrite Their]] efforts to better society end up being sidelined by an unwillingness to confront the conservatives, and sometimes [[NiceJobBreakingItHero their efforts make society even WORSE]]. In particular, their message of environmentalism is undercut by flying private jumbo jets to accept the awards, they want to legalize weed, heroin and crack for the mass market, and their needs to have workers unionize and demand outrageous wage hikes and personal benefits are becoming so expensive that corporations are outsourcing to the third world and China (note that the developers just acknowledge the left-wing is causing this; they also criticize outsourcing at several points, most notably in ending C [[spoiler:as part of the TheReasonYouSuckSpeech against Devin Weston]]) and the sense of self-entitlement the middle class has means workers are too lazy to work anyways. And considering AudienceSurrogate [[LazyBum Jimmy]] is depicted as an EntitledBastard from this depiction of the middle class, this message is probably more likely to dig under the skin of GTA fans than the right-wing criticisms.

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** The left wing criticisms (particularly on the Liberal Superhero show "Impotent Rage") are just as heavy-handed: basically, if the right-wing are the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName neo-Fascists]] [[NoDelaysForTheWicked [[FascistButEfficient who at least get their blatantly evil agenda done in a timely and efficient manner]], the left-wing can be summarized as GoodIsDumb. ''[[WhatAnIdiot Really, Really, REALLY dumb.]]'' [[TheHypocrite Their]] efforts to better society end up being sidelined by an unwillingness to confront the conservatives, and sometimes [[NiceJobBreakingItHero their efforts make society even WORSE]]. In particular, their message of environmentalism is undercut by flying private jumbo jets to accept the awards, they want to legalize weed, heroin and crack for the mass market, and their needs to have workers unionize and demand outrageous wage hikes and personal benefits are becoming so expensive that corporations are outsourcing to the third world and China (note that the developers just acknowledge the left-wing is causing this; they also criticize outsourcing at several points, most notably in ending C [[spoiler:as part of the TheReasonYouSuckSpeech against Devin Weston]]) and the sense of self-entitlement the middle class has means workers are too lazy to work anyways. And considering AudienceSurrogate [[LazyBum Jimmy]] is depicted as an EntitledBastard from this depiction of the middle class, this message is probably more likely to dig under the skin of GTA fans than the right-wing criticisms.
1st Feb '17 1:23:21 PM Giantsgiants
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** The first setup in Pacific Standard is an interesting case. You drive around town taking pictures of vans to find the one with a transponder inside. No combat of any kind involved. How hard can it be? The difficulty comes not from the actual gameplay itself, but [[FakeDifficulty getting people to join you]]. Yes, you still need four people to start even though it is easily doable solo. Unfortunately, much of the playerbase views this setup as one of the most boring and unnecessary setups out there (the driver role does virtually nothing). As a result, people will leave the instant they join your lobby and find out it's this setup. Expect to wait quite a while if you don't have friends, possibly longer than any other setup.
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