History YMMV / GrandTheftAutoV

4th Nov '17 3:24:06 PM Frankencastle
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* ShallowParody: A [[https://nowloading.co/posts/4042667 common]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEZRbzaGv0I beef]] that [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-critics-love-about-gta-v-that-actually-suck/ critical articles]] written about the game have is just how clumsy and shallow a majority of the games attempts at satirizing the "American Way" of life are. As the satire never goes beyond a bunch of generic stereotypes (rednecks, obnoxious celebrities, obtrusive paparazzi, etc) and one note jokes with no substance. These two quotes from ''Seanbaby'' say it best.
-->-- ''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}'': ''GTA V'' criticizes American culture with all the elegance of a grumpy pastor watching his first reality show. ''GTA'' attacks with no wit. And when you mock something without wit, you're just a cranky bully.''

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* ShallowParody: A [[https://nowloading.co/posts/4042667 common]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEZRbzaGv0I beef]] that [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-critics-love-about-gta-v-that-actually-suck/ critical articles]] written about the game have is just how clumsy and shallow a majority of the games attempts at satirizing the "American Way" of life are. As the satire never goes beyond a bunch of generic mean spirited stereotypes (rednecks, obnoxious celebrities, obtrusive paparazzi, etc) and one note jokes with no substance. These two quotes substance. This quote from ''Seanbaby'' say says it best.
-->-- ''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}'': ''GTA V'' criticizes American culture ''Satire and parody are more complicated than Scary Movie 11 would have you believe. You need to do more than point at social trends and call a dwarf casting agency. For instance, the GTA V writers explore fertile comedy ground with all the elegance idea of women being dumb whores. Any idiot will tell you that ridicule is a grumpy pastor watching his first reality show. ''GTA'' hilarious alternative to leering when you're dealing with giant-breasted sluts, but GTA attacks with no wit. And when you mock something without wit, you're just a cranky bully.'' Grand Theft Auto V's writers read the instructions on a rape kit and decided they knew everything they needed to know about women and comedy.''
4th Nov '17 3:13:49 PM Frankencastle
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* ShallowParody: A [[https://nowloading.co/posts/4042667 common]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEZRbzaGv0I beef]] that [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-critics-love-about-gta-v-that-actually-suck/ critical articles]] written about the game have is just how clumsy and shallow a majority of the games attempts at satirizing the "American Way" of life are. This one quote from ''Seanbaby'' best summarizes it.
-->-- ''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}'' ''GTA attacks with no wit. And when you mock something without wit, you're just a cranky bully.''

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* ShallowParody: A [[https://nowloading.co/posts/4042667 common]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEZRbzaGv0I beef]] that [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-critics-love-about-gta-v-that-actually-suck/ critical articles]] written about the game have is just how clumsy and shallow a majority of the games attempts at satirizing the "American Way" of life are. This As the satire never goes beyond a bunch of generic stereotypes (rednecks, obnoxious celebrities, obtrusive paparazzi, etc) and one quote note jokes with no substance. These two quotes from ''Seanbaby'' best summarizes it.
say it best.
-->-- ''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}'' ''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}'': ''GTA V'' criticizes American culture with all the elegance of a grumpy pastor watching his first reality show. ''GTA'' attacks with no wit. And when you mock something without wit, you're just a cranky bully.''
4th Nov '17 2:47:02 PM Frankencastle
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* ShallowParody: A [[https://nowloading.co/posts/4042667 common]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEZRbzaGv0I beef]] that [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-critics-love-about-gta-v-that-actually-suck/ critical articles]] written about the game have is just how clumsy and shallow a majority of the games attempts at satirizing the "American Way" of life are. This one quote from ''Seanbaby'' best summarizes it.
-->-- ''{{Creator/Seanbaby}}'' ''GTA attacks with no wit. And when you mock something without wit, you're just a cranky bully.''
2nd Nov '17 9:26:37 PM BNSF1995
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*** Speaking of street races, there is a mod that adds alot of them, and they are much more advanced than the Hao street races. For one thing, they take alot of features from ''Online'', such as car classes, AI racer count, bets (from free to $100,000), and the ability to create new races and car classes. It can also be done with any character, not just Franklin. Essentially, betting $100,000 and racing against 32 AI racers, and winning, will net you ''$3,300,000'', turning the mod into a GameBreaker that does make income management easier. So, if you're hurting for money and feel that playing the stock market is hard



** Flying, especially with choppers. Due to very sensitive camera mechanics, flying can be incredibly difficult to get use to. It doesn't help that flight school, which teaches players how to fly, isn't made available until '''after''' the first flying mission.

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** Flying, especially with choppers. Due to very sensitive camera mechanics, flying can be incredibly difficult to get use to. It doesn't help that flight school, which teaches players how to fly, isn't made available until '''after''' the first flying mission. Fortunately, flying is easier than in ''GTA San Andreas'', and the flight school is optional (Michael will get pestered by Trevor, but not as much as Mike Toreno pestered CJ).



*** Losing the cops even in single player mode is much more irritating than in past games. Once you get out of their view, you must wait for roughly a minute or two before the manhunt is finally called off. During this entire time, cops will still be searching for the player character and often appear instantaneously on the map right in front of the player, and often you can't turn around to go the other way because other cops will be behind you, which leaves you stuck in a dead end and forced be caught and repeat the process all over again. This can often unintentionally extend some missions by 10-20 minutes.

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*** Losing the cops even in single player mode is much more irritating than in past games. Once you get out of their view, you must wait for roughly a minute or two before the manhunt is finally called off. During this entire time, cops will still be searching for the player character and often appear instantaneously on the map right in front of the player, and often you can't turn around to go the other way because other cops will be behind you, which leaves you stuck in a dead end and forced be caught and repeat the process all over again. This can often unintentionally extend some missions by 10-20 minutes.minutes and prevent you from getting gold.



** The unarmed combat system is glitchy as all hell. In single player mode it's just annoying - it's way too easy to let your character get beaten to death by a frail old woman (for example) and your character won't always get a weapon out if you try to select it mid-fight to scare off your opponent. However, at least there, [=NPCs=] follow a fairly predictable pattern. In online mode, against live opponents, it's purely based on luck. The targeting is faulty, the relationship between when an attack connects and when its animation connects is non-existent, and it's horribly unresponsive, with your character often refusing to attack for no apparent reason. There's also no ability to control what sort of attack your character makes, so you'll often go for a powerful haymaker when you want to jab, leaving yourself open, or a short attack when you want reach. It works ''marginally'' better with melee weapons, but not much. Never the less, unarmed and melee weapon only death matches are extremely popular, as they don't involve any costs as regards to ammo.

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** The unarmed combat system is glitchy as all hell. In single player mode it's just annoying - it's way too easy to let your character get beaten to death by a frail old woman (for example) and your character won't always get a weapon out if you try to select it mid-fight to scare off your opponent. However, at least there, [=NPCs=] follow a fairly predictable pattern.pattern that can quickly be learned and countered. In online mode, against live opponents, it's purely based on luck. The targeting is faulty, the relationship between when an attack connects and when its animation connects is non-existent, and it's horribly unresponsive, with your character often refusing to attack for no apparent reason. There's also no ability to control what sort of attack your character makes, so you'll often go for a powerful haymaker when you want to jab, leaving yourself open, or a short attack when you want reach. It works ''marginally'' better with melee weapons, but not much. Never the less, unarmed and melee weapon only death matches are extremely popular, as they don't involve any costs as regards to ammo.



*** This example is also why killing helicopter pilots is hard. If you try to do this, one of four things can happen: 1) You shoot, but the bullet bounces off the frame of the helicopter. 2) You shoot, but the bullet misses the pilot entirely. 3) You shoot and the bullet hits him, but ''does not kill him'', so he requires at least one more shot to take down. 4) You shoot and the bullet hits him ''and'' kills him. This one is the least likely to happen.

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*** This example is also why killing helicopter pilots is hard. If you try to do this, one of four things can happen: 1) You shoot, but the bullet bounces off the frame of the helicopter. 2) You shoot, but the bullet misses the pilot entirely. 3) You shoot and the bullet hits him, but ''does not kill him'', so he requires at least one more shot to take down. 4) You shoot and the bullet hits him ''and'' kills him. This one is the least likely to happen. Of course, if #4 happens, be ready to run, or you could get killed by the crashing helicopter, thus rendering your efforts useless.
2nd Nov '17 9:11:50 PM BNSF1995
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* "Scounting the Port" is an interesting example. It's not a hard mission (it's actually one of the easiest), but it's ''boring'', due to involving absolutely no action. All you do is regular longshoremen work while planning for a heist.
27th Oct '17 7:18:44 PM Gsueagle31049
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** Rockstar dropping support for new content updates on the Xbox 360 and [=PlayStation 3=] versions of ''Online'' after the "Ill Gotten Gains-Part 2" update. Some argue that cutting updates for the last-gen consoles was necessary to improve the current-gen versions, while those who can't afford or refuse to migrate to either an Xbox One or [=PlayStation 4=], let alone a PC capable of running GTA V at playable settings, feel forsaken.

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** Rockstar dropping support for new content updates on the Xbox 360 and [=PlayStation 3=] [=PS3=] versions of ''Online'' after the "Ill Gotten Gains-Part 2" update. update in July 2015. Some would argue that cutting updates for the last-gen consoles was a necessary sacrifice to improve the current-gen versions, while those who can't couldn't afford or refuse to migrate to either an the Xbox One or [=PlayStation 4=], let alone a PC capable [=PS4=] at the time of running GTA V at playable settings, feel the game's re-release felt forsaken.
25th Oct '17 12:10:00 PM Gsueagle31049
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** Now that the next-gen versions of the game are out, [[http://i.imgur.com/7fJaaU7.jpg this bit with Ricky]], especially when you factor in how the current-gen versions just barely fit on the discs and all the new features added in next-gen. It's enough to make you wonder if it wasn't cheeky {{Foreshadowing}} on Rockstar's part.

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** Now that the next-gen eight-gen versions of the game are out, [[http://i.imgur.com/7fJaaU7.jpg this bit with Ricky]], especially when you factor in how the current-gen seventh-gen versions just barely fit on the discs discs[[note]]with the Xbox 360 version requiring two discs, the first to install data to the hard disk and the second to run the game[[/note]] and all the new features added in next-gen. It's enough to make you wonder if it wasn't cheeky {{Foreshadowing}} on Rockstar's part.



** The San Andreas gubernatorial race is between Democrat Sue Murry (a condescending, overly politically correct, "know-it-all shrew") and Republican Jock Cranley (a hateful, bigoted, dangerously ignorant, jerkass celebrity with no prior experience in politics), the candidates reflecting every negative stereotype of 2016 Presidential candidates [[UsefulNotes/HillaryRodhamClinton Hillary Clinton]] and Creator/DonaldTrump -- three years before the 2016 election. While Clinton being the Democratic nominee that year was seen by many pundits and political writers as a ForegoneConclusion even in 2013, Trump running for President came out of nowhere and surprised everybody.

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** The San Andreas gubernatorial race is between Democrat Sue Murry (a condescending, overly politically correct, "know-it-all shrew") and Republican Jock Cranley (a hateful, bigoted, dangerously ignorant, jerkass celebrity with no prior experience in politics), the candidates reflecting every negative stereotype of 2016 Presidential candidates [[UsefulNotes/HillaryRodhamClinton Hillary Clinton]] and Creator/DonaldTrump -- three years ''three years'' before the 2016 election. While Clinton being the Democratic nominee that year was seen by many pundits and political writers as a ForegoneConclusion even in 2013, Trump running for President came out of nowhere and surprised everybody.
24th Oct '17 10:51:40 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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** Samantha Muldoon's [[{{Sellout}} transparently commercial shift]] from being a socially aware pop singer to a down-home, flag-waving [[CountryMusic country]] singer, mainly to profit off of the older white demographic that still spends money on lucrative physical [=CDs=] as opposed to streaming, can be seen as this in light of Music/MileyCyrus' similarly-criticized shift from raunchy, rap-influenced pop music on ''Bangerz'' to a more country-influenced pop-rock style on ''Younger Now''.

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** Samantha Muldoon's [[{{Sellout}} transparently commercial shift]] from being a socially aware pop singer to a down-home, flag-waving [[CountryMusic country]] singer, mainly to profit off of the older older, conservative white demographic that still spends money on lucrative physical [=CDs=] as opposed to streaming, can be seen as this in light of Music/MileyCyrus' similarly-criticized shift from raunchy, rap-influenced pop music on ''Bangerz'' to a more country-influenced pop-rock style on ''Younger Now''.Now''. Said shift was [[https://www.spin.com/2017/10/miley-cyrus-younger-now-album-review/ widely criticized]], with many interpreting Miley's comments about her GenreShift as indicating that her ''Bangerz''-era HipHop influences, and her subsequent abandonment of them in favor of a country sound, were done for commercial reasons.
21st Oct '17 7:25:09 AM RicoRadec123
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** Lamar. To some players, he's a hilarious comic relief character who acts as a nice foil to Franklin. But to others, he's an obnoxious [[EthnicScrappy Ethnic Scrappy]] who [[TooDumbToLive frequently gets into trouble]] with rival gangs like the Ballas, and [[TheLoad relies on Franklin or Trevor to bail him out.]] Half the time, Lamar's not even [[UngratefulBastard ''grateful'']] that his friends come to rescue him from his own screw-ups.

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** Lamar. To some players, he's a hilarious comic relief character who acts as a nice foil to Franklin. But to others, he's an obnoxious [[EthnicScrappy Ethnic Scrappy]] who [[TooDumbToLive frequently gets into trouble]] with rival gangs like the Ballas, and [[TheLoad relies on Franklin or Trevor to bail him out.]] Half the time, Lamar's not even [[UngratefulBastard ''grateful'']] ''[[UngratefulBastard grateful]]'' that his friends come to rescue him from his own screw-ups.
21st Oct '17 7:23:21 AM RicoRadec123
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** Lamar. To some players, he's a hilarious comic relief character who acts as a nice foil to Franklin. But to others, he's an obnoxious [[EthnicScrappy Ethnic Scrappy]] who [[TooDumbToLive frequently gets into trouble]] with rival gangs like the Ballas, and [[TheLoad relies on Franklin or Trevor to bail him out.]] Half the time, he's not even [[UngratefulBastard ''grateful'']] that his friends come to rescue gun from his own screw-ups.

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** Lamar. To some players, he's a hilarious comic relief character who acts as a nice foil to Franklin. But to others, he's an obnoxious [[EthnicScrappy Ethnic Scrappy]] who [[TooDumbToLive frequently gets into trouble]] with rival gangs like the Ballas, and [[TheLoad relies on Franklin or Trevor to bail him out.]] Half the time, he's Lamar's not even [[UngratefulBastard ''grateful'']] that his friends come to rescue gun him from his own screw-ups.
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