History YMMV / Goodfellas

26th Sep '17 9:02:58 PM VisitorAlex
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Notoriously averted, and one of the most controversial things about the film. It's been praised as one of the more accurate mob movies ever made because, unlike ''Film/TheGodfather'', which was rather sentimental about the Mafia (or at least, Vito) as a force for order and honour in a corrupt world, there's very little honour in ''Goodfellas'': the highest-ranking gangster in the film, Paulie, is only a middle-ranking ''caporegime'' who doesn't hesitate to cut his ties with Henry when it looks like Henry may be a liability, rewarding him for a lifetime's service with a measly few hundred bucks. One of the main characters is a violent {{Jerkass}} psychopath, another is a violent, greedy and increasingly paranoid scumbag, and the main POV character is an arsonist thug who cheats on his wife and deals hard drugs behind his boss's back. In a way, it ''should'' be a hellish, hard-to-watch story about violence, secrecy and betrayal. But people love the film, because it makes this life seem like great fun...at least, up to a point. And Henry never expresses regret for all the harm he's caused; at the end of the film, the only thing he regrets is that he couldn't go on living like he used to, able to take whatever he wanted, live however he wanted, and above all, get away with it.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Notoriously averted, and one of the most controversial things about the film. It's been praised as one of the more accurate mob movies ever made because, unlike ''Film/TheGodfather'', which was rather sentimental about the Mafia (or at least, Vito) as a force for order and honour in a corrupt world, there's very little honour in ''Goodfellas'': the highest-ranking gangster in the film, Paulie, is only a middle-ranking ''caporegime'' who doesn't hesitate to cut his ties with Henry when it looks like Henry may be a liability, rewarding him for a lifetime's service with a measly few hundred bucks. One of the main characters is a violent {{Jerkass}} [[HairTriggerTemper violent]], [[{{sadist}} sadistic]] {{jerkass}} psychopath, another is a violent, greedy and increasingly paranoid scumbag, and the main POV character is an arsonist thug who cheats on his wife and deals hard drugs behind his boss's back. In a way, it ''should'' be a hellish, hard-to-watch story about violence, secrecy and betrayal. But people love the film, because it makes this life seem like great fun...at least, up to a point. And Henry never expresses regret for all the harm he's caused; at the end of the film, the only thing he regrets is that he couldn't go on living like he used to, able to take whatever he wanted, live however he wanted, and above all, get away with it.
26th Aug '17 7:56:15 PM CommanderAce
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* ChaoticEvil: Tommy DeVito is an arrogant hothead and a sociopath who will just as soon shoot you or knife you to death as laugh with you. He is infamous for his HairTriggerTemper, which [[spoiler:ultimately gets him killed when he makes the mistake of killing a made man]].
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* ChaoticEvil: Tommy DeVito is an arrogant hothead and a sociopath who will just as soon shoot you or knife you to death as laugh with you. He is infamous for his HairTriggerTemper, which [[spoiler:ultimately gets him killed when he makes the mistake of killing a made man]].
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20th Jul '17 11:51:33 PM SomeRandomBastard
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** The LongShot of Henry and Karen breaking the line at a restaurant and entering through the kitchen.

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** The LongShot EpicTrackingShot of Henry and Karen breaking the line at a restaurant and entering through the kitchen.
19th Jul '17 6:03:53 PM SomeRandomBastard
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* SignatureScene: One of serveral depending on who you ask.
** The opening scene, with one of the movie's [[SignatureLine Signature Lines]] ("as far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster") seguing into a {{Flashback}} to TheFifties.
** Tommy's reaction to Henry calling him "funny".
** The LongShot of Henry and Karen breaking the line at a restaurant and entering through the kitchen.
** Tommy beating up [[spoiler:Billy Batts]] to the tune of {{Music/Donovan}}'s "Atlantis".
** The bodies from [[spoiler:the Lufthansa heist]] being found, to the tune of "Layla" by Derek and the Dominos.
19th Jul '17 4:43:15 AM Forenperser
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** Johnny Roastbeef and Frankie Carbone deserve a mention due to their stupidity of immidiately buying themselves expensive shit with their share of the Lufthansa loot, despite Jimmy ''explicitly telling them not to do so'' since it would draw attention from the cops. This is one of the reasons why he decides to get rid of them, so they essentially dug their own graves.
6th Jun '17 11:19:41 AM CosmicFerret
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* AwardSnub: ''[=GoodFellas=]'', Creator/Scorsese, and Creator/LorraineBracco lost to ''Film/DancesWithWolves'', Creator/KevinCostner, and Creator/WhoopiGoldberg for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Supporting Actress, respectively. In hindsight, ''[=GoodFellas=]'' is considered Scorsese's greatest film. On the other hand, Joe Pesci not only got a fully deserved Oscar for Best Supporting, he didn't even expect to win and gave one of the shortest and most modest speeches in Academy history ("It's my privilege. Thank you.")
** Ray Liotta wasn't even nominated. Even Scorsese was disappointed.

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* AwardSnub: ''[=GoodFellas=]'', Creator/Scorsese, Creator/MartinScorsese, and Creator/LorraineBracco lost to ''Film/DancesWithWolves'', Creator/KevinCostner, and Creator/WhoopiGoldberg for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Supporting Actress, respectively. In hindsight, ''[=GoodFellas=]'' is considered Scorsese's greatest film. On the other hand, Joe Pesci not only got a fully deserved Oscar for Best Supporting, he didn't even expect to win and gave one of the shortest and most modest speeches in Academy history ("It's my privilege. Thank you.")
** Ray Liotta Creator/RayLiotta wasn't even nominated. Even Scorsese was disappointed.



* HilariousInHindsight: And to think, this won't be the [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity last time]] Ray Liotta gets involved with a mob...

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* HilariousInHindsight: And to think, this won't be the [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity last time]] Ray Liotta Creator/RayLiotta gets involved with a mob...
21st May '17 11:50:12 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* AwardSnub: ''[=GoodFellas=]'', Scorsese, and Bracco lost to ''Film/DancesWithWolves'', Creator/KevinCostner, and Whoopi Goldberg for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Supporting Actress, respectively. In hindsight, ''[=GoodFellas=]'' is considered Scorsese's greatest film. On the other hand, Joe Pesci not only got a fully deserved Oscar for Best Supporting, he didn't even expect to win and gave one of the shortest and most modest speeches in Academy history ("It's my privilege. Thank you.")

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* AwardSnub: ''[=GoodFellas=]'', Scorsese, Creator/Scorsese, and Bracco Creator/LorraineBracco lost to ''Film/DancesWithWolves'', Creator/KevinCostner, and Whoopi Goldberg Creator/WhoopiGoldberg for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Supporting Actress, respectively. In hindsight, ''[=GoodFellas=]'' is considered Scorsese's greatest film. On the other hand, Joe Pesci not only got a fully deserved Oscar for Best Supporting, he didn't even expect to win and gave one of the shortest and most modest speeches in Academy history ("It's my privilege. Thank you.")


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* ChaoticEvil: Tommy DeVito is an arrogant hothead and a sociopath who will just as soon shoot you or knife you to death as laugh with you. He is infamous for his HairTriggerTemper, which [[spoiler:ultimately gets him killed when he makes the mistake of killing a made man]].
16th Apr '17 10:57:18 AM JulianLapostat
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* FandomRivalry: many fans of the movie still cannot get over it losing Best Picture to ''Film/DancesWithWolves'', along with Creator/MartinScorsese losing Best Director to Creator/KevinCostner, despite both movies standing the test of time and being great in their respective genres.

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* FandomRivalry: many FandomRivalry:
** Many
fans of the movie still cannot get over it losing Best Picture to ''Film/DancesWithWolves'', along with Creator/MartinScorsese losing Best Director to Creator/KevinCostner, despite both movies standing the test of time and being great in their respective genres.genres.
** It also has a major rivalry with ''Film/TheGodfather'' over which is the better gangster film. Both are made by Italian-American film-makers and have achieved PopCulturalOsmosis with much iconic catch-phrases. Supporters argue that ''Goodfellas'' is more realistic gritty and far less romantic than ''The Godfather'' since its gangsters weren't romanticized with DelusionsOfEloquence, while others argue that ''The Godfather'' on account of being stylized, especially with Part II, can have an epic historical sweep over the immigration experience.
16th Apr '17 10:48:02 AM arilicious
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* FandomRivalry: many fans of the movie still cannot get over it losing Best Picture to ''Film/DancesWithWolves'', along with Creator/MartinScorsese losing Best Director to Creator/KevinCostner, despite both movies standing the test of time and being great in their respective genres.
6th Apr '17 4:35:24 PM Qicetrini
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--->'''Pete the Killer''': Hey, I took care of that thing for ya.

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--->'''Pete the Killer''': Killer:''' Hey, I took care of that thing for ya.
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