History YMMV / Goodfellas

16th Apr '17 10:57:18 AM JulianLapostat
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* FandomRivalry: many fans of the movie still cannot get over it losing Best Picture to ''Film/DancesWithWolves'', along with Creator/MartinScorsese losing Best Director to Creator/KevinCostner, despite both movies standing the test of time and being great in their respective genres.

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* FandomRivalry: many FandomRivalry:
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fans of the movie still cannot get over it losing Best Picture to ''Film/DancesWithWolves'', along with Creator/MartinScorsese losing Best Director to Creator/KevinCostner, despite both movies standing the test of time and being great in their respective genres.genres.
** It also has a major rivalry with ''Film/TheGodfather'' over which is the better gangster film. Both are made by Italian-American film-makers and have achieved PopCulturalOsmosis with much iconic catch-phrases. Supporters argue that ''Goodfellas'' is more realistic gritty and far less romantic than ''The Godfather'' since its gangsters weren't romanticized with DelusionsOfEloquence, while others argue that ''The Godfather'' on account of being stylized, especially with Part II, can have an epic historical sweep over the immigration experience.
16th Apr '17 10:48:02 AM arilicious
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* FandomRivalry: many fans of the movie still cannot get over it losing Best Picture to ''Film/DancesWithWolves'', along with Creator/MartinScorsese losing Best Director to Creator/KevinCostner, despite both movies standing the test of time and being great in their respective genres.
6th Apr '17 4:35:24 PM Qicetrini
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--->'''Pete the Killer''': Hey, I took care of that thing for ya.

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--->'''Pete the Killer''': Killer:''' Hey, I took care of that thing for ya.
6th Apr '17 4:33:43 PM Qicetrini
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** Henry's exposition about his drug mule/babysitter; she is insistently told to leave the house in order to make a drug related phone call. ''And what does she do? She phones from the house''. The narcs of course are wiretapping everything. Bitterly lampshaded in-universe by Henry.
--->So, what does she do after she hangs up with me? After everything I had told her? After all her yeah, yeah, yeah, bullshit? She picks up the phone and calls from the house. Now, if anybody was listening, they'd know everything. They'd know that a package was leaving from my house and they'd even have the time and the flight number. Thanks to her.

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** Henry's exposition about his drug mule/babysitter; mule/babysitter Lois; she is insistently told to leave the house in order to make a drug related phone call. ''And what does she do? She phones from the house''. The narcs of course are wiretapping everything. Bitterly lampshaded in-universe by Henry.
--->So, --->'''Henry:''' So, what does she do after she hangs up with me? After everything I had told her? After all her yeah, yeah, yeah, bullshit? She picks up the phone and calls from the house. Now, if anybody was listening, they'd know everything. They'd know that a package was leaving from my house and they'd even have the time and the flight number. Thanks to her.
6th Apr '17 4:32:42 PM Qicetrini
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** Henry's exposition about his drug mule/babysitter; she is insistently told to leave the house in order to make a drug related phone call. And what does she do? She phones from the house. The narcs of course are wiretapping everything.

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** Henry's exposition about his drug mule/babysitter; she is insistently told to leave the house in order to make a drug related phone call. And ''And what does she do? She phones from the house.house''. The narcs of course are wiretapping everything. Bitterly lampshaded in-universe by Henry.
1st Apr '17 3:43:09 PM Tork
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** To a lesser extent, Pete the Killer from the same scene, who makes one of the best NoodleIncident lines in all of film.
--->'''Pete the Killer''': Hey, I took care of that thing for ya.
1st Apr '17 3:36:32 PM Tork
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** It helps that, for all his faults, Tommy genuinely cares about his friends ("I didn't want to get blood on your floor") and is emphatically loyal to them in a life where loyalty and covering for each other is everything.
1st Apr '17 3:32:54 PM Tork
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** From the same scene, the shot of Henry uproariously laughing to "You might fold under questioning" has gained traction as a reaction image to a ridiculous notion (ex: "When Californians complain about their cold weather").
7th Mar '17 1:17:48 PM Forenperser
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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Despite the fact that the movie [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructs]] many standard gangster film tropes and has something of a DownerEnding, it's still considered one of the coolest depictions of the Mafia ever put on film - by members of the Mafia themselves, even. The gangster that [=DeNiro=]'s character was based on was reportedly ''thrilled'' such a great actor was portraying him, and kept trying to get in touch with [=DeNiro=] ''from prison'' to give him pointers. Similarly, the real Henry Hill wrecked his witness protection because he couldn't resist bragging about the movie. (Not that anyone cared to kill him at that point.) Yet by the end of the movie almost the entire extended cast is either in prison, witness protection, or dead- almost universally via brutal murder, to say nothing of all the domestic abuse, paranoia, treachery, drug addiction, police investigations and violence that the characters end up going through. It is still loved by gangsters and wannabe gangsters. Which might not be [[TropesAreNotBad a bad thing]] since it's one of the few movies that shows gangsters from their perspective rather than that of Moral Guardians and shows them WartsAndAll. WordOfGod admits that he dislikes movies telling audiences what to feel or think or telling them what's cool or not, when its up to each viewer to decide for themselves.

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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Despite the fact that the movie [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructs]] many standard gangster film tropes and has something of a DownerEnding, it's still considered one of the coolest depictions of the Mafia ever put on film - by members of the Mafia themselves, even. The gangster that [=DeNiro=]'s character was based on was reportedly ''thrilled'' such a great actor was portraying him, and kept trying to get in touch with [=DeNiro=] ''from prison'' to give him pointers. Similarly, the real Henry Hill wrecked his witness protection because he couldn't resist bragging about the movie. (Not that anyone cared to kill him at that point.) Yet by the end of the movie almost the entire extended cast is either in prison, witness protection, or dead- almost universally via brutal murder, to say nothing of all the domestic abuse, paranoia, treachery, drug addiction, police investigations and violence that the characters end up going through. It is still loved by gangsters and wannabe gangsters. Which might not be [[TropesAreNotBad a bad thing]] since it's one of the few movies that shows gangsters from their perspective rather than that of Moral Guardians and shows them WartsAndAll. WordOfGod admits that he dislikes movies telling audiences what to feel or think or telling them what's cool or not, when its up to each viewer to decide for themselves.
20th Dec '16 4:04:11 PM maxwellsilver
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* AwardSnub: ''[=GoodFellas=]'', Scorsese, and Bracco lost to ''DancesWithWolves'', Creator/KevinCostner, and Whoopi Goldberg for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Supporting Actress, respectively. In hindsight, ''[=GoodFellas=]'' is considered Scorsese's greatest film. On the other hand, Joe Pesci not only got a fully deserved Oscar for Best Supporting, he didn't even expect to win and gave one of the shortest and most modest speeches in Academy history ("It's my privilege. Thank you.")

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Was Henry's drug mule just that stupid to make a phone call from within the house, despite repeated instructions not to? Or was she an informant?
* AwardSnub: ''[=GoodFellas=]'', Scorsese, and Bracco lost to ''DancesWithWolves'', ''Film/DancesWithWolves'', Creator/KevinCostner, and Whoopi Goldberg for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Supporting Actress, respectively. In hindsight, ''[=GoodFellas=]'' is considered Scorsese's greatest film. On the other hand, Joe Pesci not only got a fully deserved Oscar for Best Supporting, he didn't even expect to win and gave one of the shortest and most modest speeches in Academy history ("It's my privilege. Thank you.")



* CrossesTheLineTwice: Some of the violence in this movie is so extreme, it almost verges on CrowningMomentOfFunny.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Some of the violence in this movie is so extreme, it almost verges on CrowningMomentOfFunny.SugarWiki/FunnyMoments.
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