History YMMV / GoneWithTheWind

18th Nov '16 8:02:12 AM Ciara25
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** Margaret Mitchell reportedly wanted ''[[MarxBrothers Groucho Marx]]'' to play Rhett, probably because Rhett in the novel is more of a snarky smartass than the film's suave Rhett was.

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** Margaret Mitchell reportedly wanted ''[[MarxBrothers Groucho Marx]]'' to play Rhett, probably because Rhett in the novel is more of a snarky smartass than the film's suave Rhett was. Of course, she was probably being sarcastic.
16th Nov '16 1:27:12 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* AwardSnub: A studio enforced one. Creator/OliviaDeHavilland (Melanie) and Vivian Leigh (Scarlet) were both favorites to be nominated for [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Best Actress]], but the studio didn't want to have its two leading ladies compete against each other, so they campaigned instead for de Havilland to be nominated for Best Supporting Actress, which naturally didn't please her. However, Hattie [=McDaniel=] won Best Supporting Actress instead, which Olivia gladly agreed she deserved.

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* AwardSnub: A studio enforced one. Creator/OliviaDeHavilland (Melanie) and Vivian Leigh Creator/VivienLeigh (Scarlet) were both favorites to be nominated for [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Best Actress]], but the studio didn't want to have its two leading ladies compete against each other, so they campaigned instead for de Havilland to be nominated for Best Supporting Actress, which naturally didn't please her. However, Hattie [=McDaniel=] won Best Supporting Actress instead, which Olivia gladly agreed she deserved.



** The marital rape of Scarlett is given a NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization. Vivien Leigh would [[Theatre/AStreetcarNamedDesire later play]] a SouthernBelle who gets brutally raped, and it causes severe SanitySlippage this time.

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** The marital rape of Scarlett is given a NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization. Vivien Leigh Creator/VivienLeigh would [[Theatre/AStreetcarNamedDesire later play]] a SouthernBelle who gets brutally raped, and it causes severe SanitySlippage this time.
1st Nov '16 4:26:58 PM fearlessnikki
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* EndingFatigue: Part two can feel like this when you wonder how many {{Deus Angst Machina}}s Scarlett is going to endure before the story wraps things up.


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* {{Narm}}: In the second half the sheer number of tragedies that happen to Scarlett one after the other - [[spoiler: Scandalous gossip about her and Ashley, marital rape courtesy of Rhett, Rhett leaving her before returning, she has a miscarriage falling down the stairs, Bonnie dies in a riding accident, Melanie suddenly falls ill and dies, and Rhett finally breaks it off with her]] - and them happening so close together is bound to induce laughter.


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** A smaller example but a good lesson nonetheless. When scandalous gossip is spread about Scarlett being caught with Ashley, Scarlett is forced to go to Melanie's party that night. Melanie immediately kills the gossip by being perfectly courteous to Scarlett and behaving as if nothing is wrong. The lesson here is that the best way to respond to gossip and stupidity is to ignore it.
17th Oct '16 11:00:16 AM fearlessnikki
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*** Actually, the book implies that Mellie ''enjoyed'' her marital relations, an interesting contrast to Scarlett, [[LieBackAndThinkOfEngland who saw it as a means to an end]]

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*** ** Actually, the book implies that Mellie ''enjoyed'' her marital relations, an interesting contrast to Scarlett, [[LieBackAndThinkOfEngland who saw it as a means to an end]]end]] In the end, Scarlett seems to think that Melanie was the one with all the power, because she was loved by everyone. Note that although Melanie is TheIngenue, she's clearly not naive; she helps Scarlett cover up the dead deserter, and recognises that Scarlett ruined Suellen's marriage prospects for the good of Tara. And for the incident with Ashley and Scarlett being caught together, she is courteous to Scarlett at the party not out of naivety - but because she knows it'll put the gossipers to rest.



* FairForItsDay:
** Despite the painful caricature that is Prissy, Mammy is still a surprisingly decent representation of a black woman. She's still shown to be intelligent and competent, despite her status as a servant. What's more is that the film avoided using {{Blackface}} - which many others had done to feature black characters - and cast race-appropriate actors. Hattie [=McDaniel=] even won an Oscar for the role.
** The film also refused to give the KKK the same treatment it had in the book. Rhett, Ashley and a few other sympathetic characters are in the Klan in the book - which they aren't in the film. It also omits the Klan pulling a BigDamnHeroes moment when Scarlett is attacked.



** The marital rape of Scarlett is given a NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization. Vivien Leigh would [[Theatre/AStreetcarNamedDesire later play]] a SouthernBelle who gets brutally raped, and it causes severe SanitySlippage this time.



* NarmCharm: The movie sometimes boils over with narm thanks to the difference in acting styles between the thirties and the 21st century. Particularly all of Scarlett's over the top screams and when she whines: "Why do I have to ''pretend'' and ''pretend''?"

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* NarmCharm: The movie sometimes boils over with narm {{Narm}} thanks to the difference in acting styles between the thirties and the 21st century. Particularly all of Scarlett's over the top screams and when she whines: "Why do I have to ''pretend'' and ''pretend''?"



* RetroactiveRecognition: A young [[Series/TheAdventuresOfSuperman George Reeves]] appears early in the film as a potential suitor though his hair is dyed red.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Zig-zagged, much like ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'':
** What caused a lot of controversy in the day? The fact that Creator/ClarkGable said "Damn". At the time, this was ''unheard'' of. The set designs and acting can be seen as quite cheesy and dated by today's standards.
** On the other hand, the movie has aged ''very'' well and still held up to movies made thirty years later.
* SuetifulAllAlong: Scarlett dodges this in the books. She's regularly mentioned in the novel as attractive but not beautiful, by multiple characters. References are made to the war aging her as well, though she's only twenty-eight by its end. It's made clear that a lot of her appeal is very good fashion choices, expert flirting, and a lack of attainability.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: A young [[Series/TheAdventuresOfSuperman George Reeves]] appears early in the film as a potential suitor suitor, though his hair is dyed red.
red. Seen [[http://images3.static-bluray.com/reviews/2141_1.jpg here]].
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Zig-zagged, much like ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'':
** What
''Film/TheWizardOfOz''; what caused a lot of controversy in the day? The fact that Creator/ClarkGable said "Damn". At the time, this was ''unheard'' of. The set designs and acting can be seen as quite cheesy and dated by today's standards. \n** On the other hand, the movie has aged ''very'' well and still held up to movies made thirty years later.
* SuetifulAllAlong: Scarlett dodges this in the books. She's regularly mentioned in the novel as attractive but not beautiful, by multiple characters. References are made to the war aging ageing her as well, though she's only twenty-eight by its end. It's made clear that a lot of her appeal is very good fashion choices, expert flirting, and a lack of attainability.attainability.
* ToughActToFollow: For some, the first part is so dramatic and action-packed - featuring the growing concerns of the war, and climaxing with Scarlett and Melanie's ride out of burning Atlanta all the way back to Tara - that part two just can't live up to it.



** No one expected a little known English actress would get the role every actress in Hollywood was dying to play. A critic even predicted that there would be [[SeriousBusiness rioting in the streets to protest the casting of Vivian Leigh]].
** The Daughters of the Confederacy group ironically supported the casting when it was announced, though it was wedged in veiled "Better a Brit than a Yankee" response to the news.

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** No one expected a little known English actress would get the role every actress in Hollywood was dying to play. A critic even predicted that there would be [[SeriousBusiness rioting in the streets to protest the casting of Vivian Leigh]].
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Leigh]]. The Daughters of the Confederacy group ironically supported the casting when it was announced, though it was wedged in veiled "Better a Brit than a Yankee" response to the news.
12th Oct '16 5:33:17 PM LongTallShorty64
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** Rhett's personality change and complete breakdown following Bonnie's death can be doubly painful to watch if one recalls that Creator/ClarkGable himself was similarly devastated when his wife Carole Lombard was killed in a plane crash just a few years after the film's release. Between the funeral and Gable's next appearance in a film, he had lost 20 pounds. It was remarked by Esther Williams that Gable was never really the same after that.

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** Rhett's personality change and complete breakdown following Bonnie's death can be doubly painful to watch if one recalls that Creator/ClarkGable himself was similarly devastated when his wife Carole Lombard Creator/CaroleLombard was killed in a plane crash just a few years after the film's release. Between the funeral and Gable's next appearance in a film, he had lost 20 pounds. It was remarked by Esther Williams that Gable was never really the same after that.
11th Oct '16 9:06:58 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* AwardSnub: A studio enforced one. Olivia de Havilland (Melanie) and Vivian Leigh (Scarlet) were both favorites to be nominated for [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Best Actress]], but the studio didn't want to have its two leading ladies compete against each other, so they campaigned instead for de Havilland to be nominated for Best Supporting Actress, which naturally didn't please her. However, Hattie [=McDaniel=] won Best Supporting Actress instead, which Olivia gladly agreed she deserved.

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* AwardSnub: A studio enforced one. Olivia de Havilland Creator/OliviaDeHavilland (Melanie) and Vivian Leigh (Scarlet) were both favorites to be nominated for [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Best Actress]], but the studio didn't want to have its two leading ladies compete against each other, so they campaigned instead for de Havilland to be nominated for Best Supporting Actress, which naturally didn't please her. However, Hattie [=McDaniel=] won Best Supporting Actress instead, which Olivia gladly agreed she deserved.



** Rhett's personality change and complete breakdown following Bonnie's death can be doubly painful to watch if one recalls that Gable himself was similarly devastated when his wife Carole Lombard was killed in a plane crash just a few years after the film's release. Between the funeral and Gable's next appearance in a film, he had lost 20 pounds. It was remarked by Esther Williams that Gable was never really the same after that.

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** Rhett's personality change and complete breakdown following Bonnie's death can be doubly painful to watch if one recalls that Gable Creator/ClarkGable himself was similarly devastated when his wife Carole Lombard was killed in a plane crash just a few years after the film's release. Between the funeral and Gable's next appearance in a film, he had lost 20 pounds. It was remarked by Esther Williams that Gable was never really the same after that.



* MagnificentBastard: From what we hear of Rhett, he manages to manipulate both sides of the Civil War to his own massive profit, speculating, blockading, and swindling his way into millions, without [[KarmaHoudini any significant personal consequences]]. Scarlett just happens to be his Achilles' heel.

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* MagnificentBastard: MagnificentBastard:
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From what we hear of Rhett, he manages to manipulate both sides of the Civil War to his own massive profit, speculating, blockading, and swindling his way into millions, without [[KarmaHoudini any significant personal consequences]]. Scarlett just happens to be his Achilles' heel.



* MemeticMutation: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn".

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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
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"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn".



** What caused a lot of controversy in the day? The fact that Clark Gable said "Damn". At the time, this was ''unheard'' of. The set designs and acting can be seen as quite cheesy and dated by today's standards.

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** What caused a lot of controversy in the day? The fact that Clark Gable Creator/ClarkGable said "Damn". At the time, this was ''unheard'' of. The set designs and acting can be seen as quite cheesy and dated by today's standards.



* ValuesResonance: It'd be a stretch to call Scarlett a feminist, but she spends a great deal of time, especially in the second half of the film, challenging traditional female gender roles. When push comes to shove, Scarlett is the only character willing to ''do something'', even if it's illegal, to ensure her family's survival and to hell with the fact that she's expected to be nothing but a pretty face. Also, the ending has Scarlett losing Rhett but realizing that Tara is more important. In essence, Scarlett's character arc ends with her realizing that landing a man isn't the most important thing in the world - instead, it's protecting your property, apparently.

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* ValuesResonance: ValuesResonance:
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It'd be a stretch to call Scarlett a feminist, but she spends a great deal of time, especially in the second half of the film, challenging traditional female gender roles. When push comes to shove, Scarlett is the only character willing to ''do something'', even if it's illegal, to ensure her family's survival and to hell with the fact that she's expected to be nothing but a pretty face. Also, the ending has Scarlett losing Rhett but realizing that Tara is more important. In essence, Scarlett's character arc ends with her realizing that landing a man isn't the most important thing in the world - instead, it's protecting your property, apparently.



* WTFCastingAgency: No one expected a little known English actress would get the role every actress in Hollywood was dying to play. A critic even predicted that there would be [[SeriousBusiness rioting in the streets to protest the casting of Vivian Leigh]].

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* WTFCastingAgency: WTFCastingAgency:
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No one expected a little known English actress would get the role every actress in Hollywood was dying to play. A critic even predicted that there would be [[SeriousBusiness rioting in the streets to protest the casting of Vivian Leigh]].
25th Jun '16 8:46:10 PM shatterstar
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* DefiledForever: May be seen as the case for Cathleen Calvert in the book. While technically she submits to the marriage of her on volition, it's [[DontYouDarePityMe shown]] she resents it greatly; and it destroys her, making her nothing but a piece of sad white trash.
** Also to the unnamed girl whose reputation Rhett ruined by refusing to marry her after being out after dark. Even though she didn't have a baby, which would imply that they ''didn't'' have sex.
* DeusAngstMachina: When finally, after walking for days and while starving, Scarlett has finally reach her home, there's a ''lovely'' surprise for her. Her mommy is [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth dead]]. [[SanitySlippage Daddy's gone mad with grief.]] [[IllGirl Her sisters are sick with typhoid.]] [[SlaveLiberation The slaves have fled]] [[HappinessInSlavery except the ones loyal to the family]], who are very few and also house slaves; generally not good for helping in the fields. [[FromBadToWorse The house was completely pillaged]] [[ArmiesAreEvil by the Yankees]] and now must provide for a large family with two children and three sick women, with the mentally unstable father as the only man of the house. [[DespairEventHorizon In addition, she must cultivate an entire plantation with only three black slaves]] because it's her ''only'' source of income, while before they had hundreds of these.



* FunWithAcronyms TakeThat StealthPun: Rhett's comment about the South only having "'''C'''otton, '''S'''laves and '''A'''rrogance," paralleling the initials of the '''C'''onfederate '''S'''tates of '''A'''merica.



* WTHCastingAgency: No one expected a little known English actress would get the role every actress in Hollywood was dying to play. A critic even predicted that there would be [[SeriousBusiness rioting in the streets to protest the casting of Vivian Leigh]].

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* WTHCastingAgency: WTFCastingAgency: No one expected a little known English actress would get the role every actress in Hollywood was dying to play. A critic even predicted that there would be [[SeriousBusiness rioting in the streets to protest the casting of Vivian Leigh]].
25th Jun '16 8:42:18 PM shatterstar
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* EthnicScrappy: Prissy on the other hand. She's lazy, incompetent, loud and TheLoad on the ride back to Tara.

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* EthnicScrappy: Prissy on the other hand. She's lazy, incompetent, loud and TheLoad on the ride back to Tara. Scarlett's slap and constant berates of her is considered for many to be a satisfying TakeThatScrappy.
19th May '16 3:12:43 PM BlackJAC
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* FunWithAcronyms TakeThat StealthPun: Rhett's comment about the South only having "'''C'''otton, '''S'''laves and '''A'''rrogance," paralleling the initials of the '''C'''onfederate '''S'''tates of '''A'''merica.
5th May '16 12:49:53 PM Spinosegnosaurus77
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%%* EndingFatigue: If you are assigned this book for school, run. That is all.
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