History YMMV / GhostInTheShell

19th Apr '16 9:58:13 AM twilicorn
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The 2016 film adaptation became this due to the {{race lift}}s of several characters from Asian to white.
18th Apr '16 10:29:24 PM Seraphine
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* InternetBackdraft: Due to Hollywood's [[Film/FistOfTheNorthStar ill]] [[Film/DragonballEvolution reputation]] on adapting anime and manga into the big screen, people remain skeptical on the upcoming live-action adaptation, most especially the casting of Creator/ScarlettJohansson. Several people such as [[https://twitter.com/jontsuei/status/720803388355530753 Jon Tsuei]] and [[https://twitter.com/jontsuei/status/720803388355530753 Ming-Na Wen]] were very critical about the casting while others such as [[http://www.indiewire.com/article/max-landis-defends-scarlett-johansson-ghost-in-the-shell-casting-video20160416 Max Landis]] and [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/doc-strange-whitewashing-shell-884385 Hollywood Reporter]] pointed the reasons behind the casting.

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* InternetBackdraft: Due to Hollywood's [[Film/FistOfTheNorthStar ill]] [[Film/DragonballEvolution reputation]] on adapting anime and manga into the big screen, people remain skeptical on the upcoming live-action adaptation, most especially the casting of Creator/ScarlettJohansson. Several people such as [[https://twitter.com/jontsuei/status/720803388355530753 Jon Tsuei]] and [[https://twitter.com/jontsuei/status/720803388355530753 com/MingNa/status/720629012180123648 Ming-Na Wen]] were very critical about the casting while others such as [[http://www.indiewire.com/article/max-landis-defends-scarlett-johansson-ghost-in-the-shell-casting-video20160416 Max Landis]] and [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/doc-strange-whitewashing-shell-884385 Hollywood Reporter]] pointed the reasons behind the casting.
17th Apr '16 8:56:04 PM sayaleviathan
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* InternetBackdraft: Due to Hollywood's [[Film/FistOfTheNorthStar ill]] [[Film/DragonballEvolution reputation]] on adapting anime and manga into the big screen, people remain skeptical on the upcoming live-action adaptation, most especially the casting of Creator/ScarlettJohansson. Several people such as [[https://twitter.com/jontsuei/status/720803388355530753 Jon Tsuei]] and [[https://twitter.com/jontsuei/status/720803388355530753 Ming-Na Wen]] were very critical about the casting while others such as [[http://www.indiewire.com/article/max-landis-defends-scarlett-johansson-ghost-in-the-shell-casting-video20160416 Max Landis]] and [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/doc-strange-whitewashing-shell-884385 Hollywood Reporter]] defended it.

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* InternetBackdraft: Due to Hollywood's [[Film/FistOfTheNorthStar ill]] [[Film/DragonballEvolution reputation]] on adapting anime and manga into the big screen, people remain skeptical on the upcoming live-action adaptation, most especially the casting of Creator/ScarlettJohansson. Several people such as [[https://twitter.com/jontsuei/status/720803388355530753 Jon Tsuei]] and [[https://twitter.com/jontsuei/status/720803388355530753 Ming-Na Wen]] were very critical about the casting while others such as [[http://www.indiewire.com/article/max-landis-defends-scarlett-johansson-ghost-in-the-shell-casting-video20160416 Max Landis]] and [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/doc-strange-whitewashing-shell-884385 Hollywood Reporter]] defended it.pointed the reasons behind the casting.
17th Apr '16 8:54:42 PM sayaleviathan
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* BrokenBase: The casting of Creator/ScarlettJohansson as the Major for the Hollywood live-action adaptation earned a lot of accusations on whitewashing while others don't mind about it as long as the story and direction is good.



* InternetBackdraft: Due to Hollywood's [[Film/FistOfTheNorthStar ill]] [[Film/DragonballEvolution reputation]] on adapting anime and manga into the big screen, people remain skeptical on the upcoming live-action adaptation, most especially the casting of Creator/ScarlettJohansson.

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* InternetBackdraft: Due to Hollywood's [[Film/FistOfTheNorthStar ill]] [[Film/DragonballEvolution reputation]] on adapting anime and manga into the big screen, people remain skeptical on the upcoming live-action adaptation, most especially the casting of Creator/ScarlettJohansson. Several people such as [[https://twitter.com/jontsuei/status/720803388355530753 Jon Tsuei]] and [[https://twitter.com/jontsuei/status/720803388355530753 Ming-Na Wen]] were very critical about the casting while others such as [[http://www.indiewire.com/article/max-landis-defends-scarlett-johansson-ghost-in-the-shell-casting-video20160416 Max Landis]] and [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/doc-strange-whitewashing-shell-884385 Hollywood Reporter]] defended it.



* WTHCastingAgency: When it was [[http://variety.com/2015/film/news/scarlett-johansson-signs-on-to-star-in-dreamworks-ghost-in-the-shell-exclusive-1201320788/ announced]] that Scarlett Johansson will star in the upcoming live-action version of the film, a lot of anime fans are definitely not pleased with this, particularly that the Major will get a RaceLift.

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* WTHCastingAgency: When it was [[http://variety.com/2015/film/news/scarlett-johansson-signs-on-to-star-in-dreamworks-ghost-in-the-shell-exclusive-1201320788/ announced]] that Scarlett Johansson will star in the upcoming live-action version of the film, a lot of anime fans are definitely not pleased with this, particularly that the Major will get a RaceLift. It doesn't help that [[http://screencrush.com/ghost-in-the-shell-whitewashing-scarlett-johnasson-vfx/ there were reports about using CGI effects]] to make [[{{Yellowface}} the white actors looked Asian]] as several people cited that there are several Asian actresses who could fit the role such as Creator/RinkoKikuchi, .
17th Apr '16 10:40:31 AM JamesAustin
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After months of controversy over the film's casting, the producers finally realized it might be a good idea to have at least one actual Japanese person in the film and hired Beat Takeshi to play Aramaki.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After months of controversy over the film's casting, the producers finally realized it might be a good idea to have at least one actual Japanese person in the film and hired Beat Takeshi Kitano to play Aramaki.
9th Apr '16 9:50:22 PM Willbyr
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-->'''Batou:''' "If it looks like you've gone in too deep I'm pulling the plug and taking you home!"

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-->'''Batou:''' "If If it looks like you've gone in too deep I'm pulling the plug and taking you home!"home!



** And that's not even ''close'' to the worst thing she does.



* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: In America, it's a ''bona fide'' classic. In Japan, it's considered to be average. In sales, not in quality. To Westerners it was one of the earlier examples of serious, artistic animation, while in Japan it was nothing unheard of and was, well, slow-paced and artistic; rarely a recipe for a box office hit.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: In America, it's a ''bona fide'' classic. In Japan, it's considered to be average. In sales, not in quality. To Westerners it was classic, one of the earlier examples of serious, artistic animation, while in animation. In Japan it was nothing unheard of and was, well, slow-paced and artistic; artistic, rarely a recipe for a box office hit.



** Older fans of the movie tend to find the change of the Puppet Master's voice actor as one of the most unnecessary things in ''2.0'', as the original's use of a female body talking in a male voice was considered a masterful deliberate use of the UncannyValley.



* SuperlativeDubbing: The original anime film's English dub (courtesy of Manga Entertainment) was one of the very first anime dubs to aim directly at an adult audience, contain excellent acting across the board and to have a script that was extremely faithful to the original Japanese with minimal use of extraneous profanity, a practice that was all too common back in the early-to-mid 90s, often used to supposedly make the product seem "edgier". The dub still holds up extraordinarily well today despite the many advances in dubbing courtesy of such shows like ''Anime/CowboyBebop'', ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' and ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann''. It is so good that, in fact, when the remake ''Ghost in the Shell 2.0'' was localized for English release, rather than create a new dub from scratch, the original 1995 English dub was reused wholesale with no changes. Now '''that''' is impressive.
* UncannyValley: Both films play with this, especially ''Innocence'' with those eerie geisha robots, [[spoiler:Haraway the forensics scientist]], [[spoiler:Kim]] and the [[spoiler:really creepy-looking doll Togusa brings home to his daughter at the end]]. Discussed in ''Innocence'':
--> "It's the uncertainty that perhaps something that appears to be alive actually isn't. On the other hand, it might be the uncertainty that what doesn't appear to be alive actually ''is''."

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* SuperlativeDubbing: The original anime film's English dub (courtesy of Manga Entertainment) was one of the very first anime dubs to aim directly at an adult audience, contain excellent acting across the board board, and to have a script that was extremely faithful to the original Japanese with minimal use of extraneous profanity, a practice that was all too common back in the early-to-mid 90s, often used to supposedly make the product seem "edgier". The dub still holds up extraordinarily well today despite the many advances in dubbing courtesy of such shows like ''Anime/CowboyBebop'', ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' and ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann''. It is so good that, in fact, when the remake ''Ghost in the Shell 2.0'' was localized for English release, rather than create a new dub from scratch, the original 1995 English dub was reused wholesale with no changes. Now '''that''' is impressive.
* UncannyValley: Both films play with this, this.
** The original tapped into this with the Major, as she never blinks, and
especially with the Puppet Master's male voice coming from a female body. Fans weren't happy when a female voice was used in ''2.0''.
**
''Innocence'' goes even further, with those eerie geisha robots, [[spoiler:Haraway the forensics scientist]], [[spoiler:Kim]] and the [[spoiler:really creepy-looking doll Togusa brings home to his daughter at the end]]. Discussed in ''Innocence'':
--> "It's
The trope is even {{discussed|Trope}} at one point:
-->It's
the uncertainty that perhaps something that appears to be alive actually isn't. On the other hand, it might be the uncertainty that what doesn't appear to be alive actually ''is''."



* WTHCastingAgency: When it was [[http://variety.com/2015/film/news/scarlett-johansson-signs-on-to-star-in-dreamworks-ghost-in-the-shell-exclusive-1201320788/ announced]] that Scarlett Johansson will star in the upcoming live-action version of the film, a lot of anime fans are definitely not pleased with this, particularly that the Major will get RaceLift.

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* WTHCastingAgency: When it was [[http://variety.com/2015/film/news/scarlett-johansson-signs-on-to-star-in-dreamworks-ghost-in-the-shell-exclusive-1201320788/ announced]] that Scarlett Johansson will star in the upcoming live-action version of the film, a lot of anime fans are definitely not pleased with this, particularly that the Major will get a RaceLift.
4th Mar '16 7:23:25 AM Pren
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After months of controversy over the film's casting, the producers finally realized it might be a good idea to have at least one actual Japanese person in the film and hired Beat Takeshi to play Aramaki.
2nd Mar '16 5:20:59 AM Anddrix
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* BrokenBase: The casting of Creator/ScarlettJohansson as the Major earned a lot of ire from the fanbase.
10th Dec '15 9:26:20 AM bt8257
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* ErectionRejection: A sizable faction of the fans maintains that ''Man[=/=]Machine Interface'' is unreadable because of this. The other faction maintains it is ''only'' readable because of that.


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* FetishRetardant: A sizable faction of the fans maintains that ''Man[=/=]Machine Interface'' is unreadable because of this. The other faction maintains it is ''only'' readable because of that.
20th May '15 9:28:01 AM Willbyr
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* InternetBackdraft: Due Hollywood's [[Film/FistOfTheNorthStar ill]] [[Film/DragonballEvolution reputation]] on adapting anime and manga into the big screen, people remain skeptic on upcoming live-action adaptation, most especially the casting of Scarlett Johansson.

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* InternetBackdraft: Due to Hollywood's [[Film/FistOfTheNorthStar ill]] [[Film/DragonballEvolution reputation]] on adapting anime and manga into the big screen, people remain skeptic skeptical on the upcoming live-action adaptation, most especially the casting of Scarlett Johansson.Creator/ScarlettJohansson.



* MostWonderfulSound: The ringing bells of the Japanese wedding music that's used as the main theme of the first film. BennettTheSage used them as a hint to how Manga were able to recover after the release of MadBull34.

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* MostWonderfulSound: The ringing bells of the Japanese wedding music that's used as the main theme of the first film. BennettTheSage WebVideo/BennettTheSage used them as a hint to how Manga Entertainment were able to recover after the release of MadBull34.''Manga/MadBull34''.



* ParanoiaFuel: The possibility of having your ''brain'' hacked. In the second film, we get to see what the result of such hacking looks like from the point of view of the victim. [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness It's rather unnerving]].
* SuperlativeDubbing: The original anime film's English dub (courtesy of Manga Entertainment) was one of the very first anime dubs to aim directly at an adult audience, contain excellent acting all across the board and to have a script that was extremely faithful to the original Japanese with minimal use of extraneous profanity, a practice that was all too common back in the early-to-mid 90s, often used to supposedly make the product seem "edgier". The dub still holds up extraordinarily well today despite the many advances in dubbing courtesy of such shows like ''Anime/CowboyBebop'', ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' and ''GurrenLagann''. It is so good that, in fact, when the remake ''Ghost in the Shell 2.0'' was localized for English release, rather than create a new dub from scratch, the original 1995 English dub was reused wholesale with no changes. Now '''that''' is impressive.
* UncannyValley: Both films play with this, especially ''Innocence'' with those eerie geisha robots, [[spoiler:Haraway the forensics scientist]], [[spoiler:Kim]] and the [[spoiler: really creepy-looking doll Togusa brings home to his daughter at the end]]. Discussed in ''Innocence'':

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* ParanoiaFuel: The possibility of having your ''brain'' hacked. In the second film, we get to see what the result of such hacking looks like from the victim's point of view of the victim.view. [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness It's rather unnerving]].
* SuperlativeDubbing: The original anime film's English dub (courtesy of Manga Entertainment) was one of the very first anime dubs to aim directly at an adult audience, contain excellent acting all across the board and to have a script that was extremely faithful to the original Japanese with minimal use of extraneous profanity, a practice that was all too common back in the early-to-mid 90s, often used to supposedly make the product seem "edgier". The dub still holds up extraordinarily well today despite the many advances in dubbing courtesy of such shows like ''Anime/CowboyBebop'', ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' and ''GurrenLagann''.''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann''. It is so good that, in fact, when the remake ''Ghost in the Shell 2.0'' was localized for English release, rather than create a new dub from scratch, the original 1995 English dub was reused wholesale with no changes. Now '''that''' is impressive.
* UncannyValley: Both films play with this, especially ''Innocence'' with those eerie geisha robots, [[spoiler:Haraway the forensics scientist]], [[spoiler:Kim]] and the [[spoiler: really [[spoiler:really creepy-looking doll Togusa brings home to his daughter at the end]]. Discussed in ''Innocence'':
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