History YMMV / GauntsGhosts

3rd Jul '16 11:39:37 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Lijah Cuu establishes himself as a frightening, brutal soldier with a mean streak a few light-years wide to begin with. In ''The Guns of Tanith'' his true nature is solidified, when he rapes and kills a civilian woman and then murders Bragg for reporting him. He commits another unscrupulous act of violence in ''Sabbat Martyr'', where he kills Colm Corbec while trying to kill Saint Sabbat. Though he is under the influence of Pater Sin's psykers at the time, ''that'' needs something to latch on to, like '' '''already-present''' '' [[AxCrazy homicidal desires]]. In ''Straight Silver'', he almost beats Larkin (a relatively old man) to death for defending an innocent old lady and later attempts to kill Larkin in revenge while the latter lies defenseless in the middle of a seizure, only to end up murdering Sehra Muril, a fellow Ghost who just caught him red-handed. Cuu's actions naturally and effortlessly reinforce his nature as an absolute, unrelenting bastard.

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* CompleteMonster: [[AxCrazy Lijah Cuu Cuu]] establishes himself as a [[SociopathicSoldier frightening, brutal soldier soldier]] with a mean streak a few light-years lightyears wide to begin with. In ''The Guns of Tanith'' his true nature is solidified, when he rapes and kills a civilian woman and then murders Bragg for reporting him. He commits another unscrupulous act of violence in ''Sabbat Martyr'', where he kills Colm Corbec while trying to kill Saint Sabbat. Though he is under the influence of Pater Sin's psykers at the time, ''that'' that needs something to latch on to, like '' '''already-present''' '' already-present [[AxCrazy homicidal desires]]. In ''Straight Silver'', he almost beats Larkin (a Larkin, a relatively old man) man, to death for defending an innocent old lady and later attempts to kill Larkin in revenge while the latter lies defenseless in the middle of a seizure, only to end up murdering Sehra Muril, a fellow Ghost who just caught him red-handed. Cuu's actions naturally and effortlessly reinforce his nature as an absolute, unrelenting bastard.
30th Jun '16 11:52:45 AM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: Lijah Cuu establishes himself as a frightening, brutal soldier with a mean streak a few light-years wide to begin with. In ''The Guns of Tanith'' his true nature is solidified, when he rapes and kills a civilian woman and then murders Bragg for reporting him. He commits another unscrupulous act of violence in ''Sabbat Martyr'', where he kills Colm Corbec while trying to kill Saint Sabbat. Though he is under the influence of Pater Sin's psykers at the time, ''that'' needs something to latch on to, like '' '''already-present''' '' [[AxCrazy homicidal desires]]. In ''Straight Silver'', he almost beats Larkin (a relatively old man) to death for defending an innocent old lady and later attempts to kill Larkin in revenge while the latter lies defenseless in the middle of a seizure, only to end up murdering Sehra Muril, a fellow Ghost who just caught him red-handed. Cuu's actions naturally and effortlessly reinforce his nature as an absolute, unrelenting bastard.
30th Jun '16 11:49:15 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Lijah Cuu quickly establishes himself as a frightening, brutal soldier with a mean streak a few light-years wide to begin with. In ''The Guns of Tanith'' his true nature is solidified, when [[spoiler: he rapes and kills a civilian woman and then kills Bragg for reporting him.]] He commits another unscrupulous act of violence in ''Sabbat Martyr'', where he [[spoiler: kills Colm Corbec while trying to kill Saint Sabbat.]] Though he is [[spoiler:under the influence of Pater Sin's psykers at the time]], ''that'' needs something to latch on to, like '' '''already-present''' '' [[AxCrazy homicidal desires]]. In ''Straight Silver'', he [[spoiler: almost beats Larkin (a relatively old man) to death for defending an innocent old lady]] and later [[spoiler: tries to kill Larkin in revenge while the latter lies defenseless in the middle of a seizure, only to end up killing Sehra Muril, a fellow Ghost who just caught him red-handed.]] Cuu's actions naturally and effortlessly reinforce his nature as an absolute, unrelenting bastard.
** There's also Guilder Worlin in ''Necropolis'', who is a ruthless and petty businessman in Vervunhive. His very first appearance he waits at a trainstop (while the city is being ''bombarded'') and when the doors of a packed train won't open to admit him, he and his bodyguards start slaughtering people until they all leave the train, allowing him to get on. He then leaves the fuel lines open after they've been ordered closed in order to get rich off the profits, and repeatedly both tries and successfully murders people in order to cover up his crimes. Thankfully he ends up being shot as everything is winding down.
13th Jun '16 10:08:25 AM Austin
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* CrazyPrepared: How Gaunt describes his late Warmaster Slaydo: the reason he gained so much success is that he expected ''anything'' to happen.



* ScheduleSlip: The Warmaster was originally scheduled to come out at the end of 2013, with a summary and cover art released in the spring and several tweets during the summer indicating that Abnett was working on it. Then it fell off the radar with no explanation. It's now expected in mid-2015, four years after the previous novel, making for what is by far the longest such gap in the series' history.
23rd May '16 4:25:27 PM LBHills
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* ValuesDissonance: The morality and attitudes of the main characters owe more to 21st century "Western society" than that of the 41st Millenium Imperium of Man, likely in order to avoid making them all completely unsympathetic. Gaunt puts up with minor heresy, rarely executes soldiers, and isn't a religious fanatic - not the kind of behavior that is encouraged in an Imperial Commissar. More representative attitudes can be seen in Commissar Kowle from ''Necropolis'', a TriggerHappy psycho.
** That's only possible because not only Ghosts and numerous other regiments often display unbreakable morale, but the novels also downplay the threat of Chaos taint compared with a lot of other works in the setting - soldiers don't seem to be actually driven dangerously insane by seeing one Warp-horror too many, and it takes concentrated efforts on the parts of Chaos forces to corrupt large numbers of humans. So, there is no need for usual Imperial ways of keeping troops in fighting shape. That said, the Ruinous Powers are still quite potent, and the threat of Chaos corruption is brought up during and after the events of ''Traitor General''.
** As well this is the second front of the crusade. The Ghosts primarily face Chaos troops and occasional body horror. The real horrors are probably all over the primary front.

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* ValuesDissonance: The morality and attitudes of the main characters owe more to 21st century "Western society" than that of the 41st Millenium Imperium of Man, likely in order to avoid making them all completely unsympathetic. Gaunt puts up with minor heresy, rarely executes soldiers, and isn't a religious fanatic - not the kind of behavior that is encouraged in an Imperial Commissar.commissar. More representative attitudes can be seen in Commissar Kowle from ''Necropolis'', a TriggerHappy psycho.
** That's only possible because not only Ghosts and numerous other regiments often display unbreakable morale, but the The novels also downplay the threat of Chaos taint compared with a lot of other works in the setting - soldiers don't seem to be actually driven dangerously insane generally become completely unhinged by seeing one Warp-horror too many, and it takes concentrated efforts on the parts of Chaos forces to corrupt large numbers of humans. So, there is no need for usual the more typical Imperial ways of keeping troops in fighting shape. That said, the The Ruinous Powers are still quite potent, and the threat of Chaos corruption is brought up during and after third arc deals repeatedly with the events peril of ''Traitor General''.
** As well this is
TheCorruption, but humans in the series aren't ''generally'' driven to monstrous deeds just to survive.
** It's also important to note that the Ghosts are fighting on the Crusade's
second front of the crusade. The Ghosts primarily face Chaos troops and occasional body horror. The real horrors are (in a time when there's probably all over more than one Crusade-sized effort in the primary front.galaxy). This suggests that the Warp is not quite as formidable in the Sabbat Worlds as it is in some areas, such as those around the Eye of Terror.
16th Apr '15 12:40:40 PM Preussak
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** There's also Meryn's pension fraud racket, taking advantage of dead Ghosts and relatives for financial gain. Plus leaving Costin to die in order to keep him quiet.

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** There's also Meryn's pension fraud racket, taking advantage of dead Ghosts and relatives for financial gain. Plus leaving Costin to die in order to keep him quiet.quiet, not to mention a few other Ghosts who hadn't even been involved in the scam.
9th Apr '15 11:51:03 AM seuta
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** As well this is the second front of the crusade. The Ghosts primarily face Chaos troops and occasional body horror. The real horrors are probably all over the primary front.
3rd Feb '15 11:53:02 PM Bionicman
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* ScheduleSlip: The Warmaster was originally scheduled to come out at the end of 2013, with a summary and cover art coming released in the spring and several tweets during the summer indicating that Abnett was working on it. Then it fell off the radar with no explanation. It's now expected in mid-2015, making for what is by far the longest gap between novels.

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* ScheduleSlip: The Warmaster was originally scheduled to come out at the end of 2013, with a summary and cover art coming released in the spring and several tweets during the summer indicating that Abnett was working on it. Then it fell off the radar with no explanation. It's now expected in mid-2015, four years after the previous novel, making for what is by far the longest such gap between novels.in the series' history.
2nd Feb '15 11:14:23 PM Bionicman
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* MagnificentBastard It may turn out that Mabbon [[spoiler:is a ''quadruple'' agent. First he leaves the Blood Pact to join the Sons of Sek so that he could get vital inside information on Sek's holdings. Then he defects to Imperium and gives them the information necessary to perform a raid on one of Sek's research facilities and steal tons of valuable data and research. However, it's implied that Mabbon has been loyal to the Blood Pact the entire time, and the entire operation was just a ploy to get that valuable data into the hands of the Blood Pact.]]

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* MagnificentBastard MagnificentBastard: It may turn out that Mabbon [[spoiler:is a ''quadruple'' agent. First he leaves the Blood Pact to join the Sons of Sek so that he could get vital inside information on Sek's holdings. Then he defects to Imperium and gives them the information necessary to perform a raid on one of Sek's research facilities and steal tons of valuable data and research. However, it's implied that Mabbon has been loyal to the Blood Pact the entire time, and the entire operation was just a ploy to get that valuable data into the hands of the Blood Pact.]]


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* ScheduleSlip: The Warmaster was originally scheduled to come out at the end of 2013, with a summary and cover art coming released in the spring and several tweets during the summer indicating that Abnett was working on it. Then it fell off the radar with no explanation. It's now expected in mid-2015, making for what is by far the longest gap between novels.
29th Jun '14 6:42:52 AM GentlemensDame883
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* CompleteMonster: Lijah Cuu establishes himself as a frightening, brutal soldier with a mean streak a few light-years wide to begin with. In ''The Guns of Tanith'' his true nature is solidified, when [[spoiler: he rapes and kills a civilian woman and then kills Bragg for reporting him.]] He commits another unscrupulous act of violence in ''Sabbat Martyr'', where he [[spoiler: kills Colm Corbec while trying to kill Saint Sabbat.]] Though he is [[spoiler:under the influence of Pater Sin's psykers at the time]], ''that'' needs something to latch on to, like '' '''already-present''' '' [[AxCrazy homicidal desires]]. In ''Straight Silver'', he [[spoiler: almost beats Larkin (a relatively old man) to death for defending an innocent old lady]] and later [[spoiler: tries to kill Larkin in revenge while the latter lies defenseless in the middle of a seizure, only to end up killing Sehra Muril, a fellow Ghost who just caught him red-handed.]] Cuu's actions naturally and effortlessly reinforce his nature as an absolute, unrelenting bastard.

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* CompleteMonster: Lijah Cuu quickly establishes himself as a frightening, brutal soldier with a mean streak a few light-years wide to begin with. In ''The Guns of Tanith'' his true nature is solidified, when [[spoiler: he rapes and kills a civilian woman and then kills Bragg for reporting him.]] He commits another unscrupulous act of violence in ''Sabbat Martyr'', where he [[spoiler: kills Colm Corbec while trying to kill Saint Sabbat.]] Though he is [[spoiler:under the influence of Pater Sin's psykers at the time]], ''that'' needs something to latch on to, like '' '''already-present''' '' [[AxCrazy homicidal desires]]. In ''Straight Silver'', he [[spoiler: almost beats Larkin (a relatively old man) to death for defending an innocent old lady]] and later [[spoiler: tries to kill Larkin in revenge while the latter lies defenseless in the middle of a seizure, only to end up killing Sehra Muril, a fellow Ghost who just caught him red-handed.]] Cuu's actions naturally and effortlessly reinforce his nature as an absolute, unrelenting bastard.
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