History YMMV / Gargoyles

18th Oct '17 9:39:36 AM Pren
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* FanDislikedExplanation: Although the show is usually good at tying up loose ends, a few plot threads have been left hanging: The computer virus that Xanatos acquires in "Legion," for example, is never seen or heard of again. (Given how TechnologyMarchesOn, it is unlikely that it ever will be now.) What Titania whispered to Fox in "The Gathering" has also been left hanging; WordOfGod says that it wasn't very important anyway.

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* FanDislikedExplanation: Although the show is usually good at tying up loose ends, a few plot threads have been left hanging: The computer virus that Xanatos acquires in "Legion," for example, is never seen or heard of again. (Given how TechnologyMarchesOn, it is unlikely that it ever will be now.) What Titania whispered to Fox in "The Gathering" has also been left hanging; WordOfGod says that it wasn't very important anyway.anyway, and would now be a ridiculous anti-climax after so much speculation.
16th Oct '17 7:06:30 PM Malady
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* SpiritualAdaptation: "The Hound of Ulster" is essentially an adaptation of the debut of ComicBook/TheMightyThor in JourneyIntoMystery #83. A modern person discovers an old stick/cane underground which turns out to be the disguised weapon of a mythological god/hero, which transforms him into said god/hero. Greg regrets this similarity.

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* SpiritualAdaptation: "The Hound of Ulster" is essentially an adaptation of the debut of ComicBook/TheMightyThor in JourneyIntoMystery ComicBook/JourneyIntoMystery #83. A modern person discovers an old stick/cane underground which turns out to be the disguised weapon of a mythological god/hero, which transforms him into said god/hero. Greg regrets this similarity.
10th Oct '17 12:43:40 PM Silverblade2
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* TrueNeutral: [[TheGrimReaper Anubis.]]
-->'''The Emir''': I ''demand'' reparation! My son was cruelly and unfairly taken from me!
-->'''Anubis''': On the contrary, death is the ''ultimate'' fairness. Rich and poor, young and old, all are equal in death. You would not like to see the jackal god play favorites.
29th Sep '17 6:39:08 PM Scraggle
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** Coldsteel is the only villainous gargoyle without a FreudianExcuse. Demona is angry about the way humans treat gargoyles and Thailog was programmed to be evil, arguably, neither would have been evil if it wasn't for evil humans. Coldsteel seems to be evil for no reason at all. All of his actions are motivated by petty romantic jealousy. He is actually proof that gargoyles are just as capable of being good or evil as humans.

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** Coldsteel is the only villainous gargoyle %% Do NOT add any more additions to this trope without a FreudianExcuse. Demona is angry about consulting the way humans treat gargoyles and Thailog was programmed to be evil, arguably, neither would have been evil if it wasn't for evil humans. Coldsteel seems to be evil for no reason at all. All of his actions are motivated by petty romantic jealousy. He is actually proof that gargoyles are just as capable of being good or evil as humans.cleanup thread: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1
29th Sep '17 4:19:58 PM dbdude01
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** Coldsteel is the only villainous gargoyle without a FreudianExcuse. Demona is angry about the way humans treat gargoyles and Thailog was programmed to be evil, arguably, neither would have been evil if it wasn't for evil humans. Coldsteel seems to be evil for no reason at all. All of his actions are motivated by petty romantic jealousy. He is actually proof that gargoyles are just as capable of being good or evil as humans.
22nd Sep '17 4:05:31 PM G-Editor
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** Coldsteel is the only villainous gargoyle without a FreudianExcuse. Demona is angry about the way humans treat gargoyles and Thailog was programmed to be evil, arguably, neither would have been evil if it wasn't for evil humans. Coldsteel seems to be evil for no reason at all. All of his actions are motivated by petty romantic jealousy. He is actually proof that gargoyles are just as capable of being good or evil as humans.
22nd Sep '17 4:04:57 PM G-Editor
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22nd Sep '17 12:59:52 AM DrPsyche
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Just how evil is Xanatos exactly? Is he even truly evil, or just really, really, ''REALLY'' misguided and, in his own way, lacking for social skills?
** Well, he did ruin a number of lives with no real regard for the people hurt in the crossfire so he is at least mildly evil.
** Many of his deeds are understandable FromACertainPointOfView, but what he arranged for his [[PettingZooPeople trusting employee, Derek Maza]], is definitely villainous.
** Xanatos is never cruel for cruelty's sake, but he can and will do terrible things to innocent people if it benefits him.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
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Just how evil is Xanatos exactly? Is he even truly evil, or just really, really, ''REALLY'' misguided and, in his own way, lacking for social skills?
** *** Well, he did ruin a number of lives with no real regard for the people hurt in the crossfire so he is at least mildly evil.
** *** Many of his deeds are understandable FromACertainPointOfView, but what he arranged for his [[PettingZooPeople trusting employee, Derek Maza]], is definitely villainous.
** *** Xanatos is never cruel for cruelty's sake, but he can and will do terrible things to innocent people if it benefits him.


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** Is [[spoiler:Owen]] really only a persona to Puck or does he have his own individuality or sentience? It's notable that when Oberon [[spoiler:sentenced Puck to be permanently in Owen's form unless for protection/teaching]] Puck is horrified at the idea, but [[spoiler:Owen]] seems to be fine with it. Additionally it may just be a case of BecomingTheMask.
21st Sep '17 2:29:03 AM Ramidel
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** Titania plays the far more powerful Oberon like a flute, and whenever she's on-screen, things go as she's planned.
11th Sep '17 7:34:27 PM dbdude01
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** Coldsteel is the only villainous gargoyle without a FreudianExcuse. Demona is angry about the way humans treat gargoyles and Thailog was programmed to be evil, arguably, neither would have been evil it wasn't for evil humans. Coldsteel seems to be evil for no reason at all. All of his actions are motivated by petty romantic jealousy. He is actually proof that gargoyles are just as capable of being good or evil as humans.

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** Coldsteel is the only villainous gargoyle without a FreudianExcuse. Demona is angry about the way humans treat gargoyles and Thailog was programmed to be evil, arguably, neither would have been evil if it wasn't for evil humans. Coldsteel seems to be evil for no reason at all. All of his actions are motivated by petty romantic jealousy. He is actually proof that gargoyles are just as capable of being good or evil as humans.



** When Duncan's army was ready to attack Moray, Bodhe wold Macbeth that Duncan would easily overpower Macbeth's loyal soldiers and slaughter his family and that Macbeth's only chance to save his wife and son was to surrender. Indeed, prior to Macbeth making an alliance with Demona, Duncan would have easily plowed through Macbeth's loyal soldiers and probably would have killed his wife and son.
** After Duncan's death Bodhe advises Macbeth to kill Canmore, believing that Canmore would be trouble. This time he was proven right.

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** When Duncan's army was ready to attack Moray, Bodhe wold told Macbeth that Duncan would easily overpower Macbeth's loyal soldiers and slaughter his family and that Macbeth's only chance to save his wife and son was to surrender. Indeed, prior to Macbeth making an alliance with Demona, Duncan would have easily plowed through Macbeth's loyal soldiers and probably would have killed his wife and son.
** After Duncan's death death, Bodhe advises Macbeth to kill Canmore, believing that Canmore would be trouble. This time he was proven right.
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