History YMMV / Gargoyles

14th Jul '16 3:05:45 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Some fans didn't like that [[spoiler:Brooklyn named his son "Nashville". Other fans are fine with it as it fits the American location theme]].


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* BrokenBase: Some fans didn't like that [[spoiler:Brooklyn named his son "Nashville". Other fans are fine with it as it fits the American location theme]].
11th Jul '16 7:56:21 AM WhatArtThee
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: An all-adult cast, serious explorations on issues like prejudice and genocide from the first episode, a VerySpecialEpisode about the consequences of gun usage (which isn't painted in black-and-white like other Aesops), ''loads'' of Shakespeare references, and to top it off a villain who will [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds have you divided on whether you should hate her or not]]. Not something you'd really see in most Disney animation, much less Disney television (which does explain why Disney screwed it over. Something that deep, dark, action-packed, and intellectual doesn't fit into the cutesy, light-heartedness of Disney. Look what happened to ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'').

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: An all-adult cast, serious explorations on issues like prejudice and genocide from the first episode, and a VerySpecialEpisode about the consequences of gun usage (which isn't painted in black-and-white like other Aesops), ''loads'' of Shakespeare references, and to top it off a villain who will [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds have you divided on whether you should hate her or not]].Aesops). Not something you'd really see in most Disney animation, much less Disney television (which does explain why Disney screwed it over. Something that deep, dark, action-packed, and intellectual doesn't fit into the cutesy, light-heartedness of Disney. Look what happened to ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'').
29th Jun '16 8:52:49 PM Angeldeb82
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* BaseBreaker: Some fans didn't like that [[spoiler:Brooklyn named his son "Nashville". Other fans are fine with it as it fits the American location theme.]]

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* BaseBreaker: Some fans didn't like that [[spoiler:Brooklyn named his son "Nashville". Other fans are fine with it as it fits the American location theme.]]theme]].



* WhatAnIdiot: Oh, so many that it could have its own page. Let's start at the beginning. Yes, people of Castle Wyvern, treat the gargoyles -- half of your fighting force -- like crap and act like [[UngratefulBastard Ungrateful Bastards]] after they save you from the Vikings. Surely this won't cause problems later on when you need them the most.[[note]]A stupid decision, but one remniscient of several incidents in actual history. Almost every class-based revolution starts from very similar seeds.[[/note]]

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* WhatAnIdiot: Oh, so many that it could have its own page. Let's start at the beginning. Yes, people of Castle Wyvern, treat the gargoyles -- half of your fighting force -- like crap and act like [[UngratefulBastard Ungrateful Bastards]] {{Ungrateful Bastard}}s after they save you from the Vikings. Surely this won't cause problems later on when you need them the most.[[note]]A stupid decision, but one remniscient of several incidents in actual history. Almost every class-based revolution starts from very similar seeds.[[/note]]
29th Jun '16 8:51:51 PM Angeldeb82
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* EvilIsSexy: Demona, [[AxCrazy Hyena]], [[CuteGhostGirl The Banshee]], [[HotWitch The Weird Sisters]] (at least while Seline/Fury is in control), [[EveryoneLovesBlondes Robyn Canmore]], [[PerkyGoth Shari]], and [[ActionGirl Fox]] [[spoiler: at least until her HeelFaceTurn]], all qualify in spades for this. [[DracoInLeatherPants Xanatos]] easily counts as well, as does [[EvilTwin Thailog.]]

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* EvilIsSexy: Demona, [[AxCrazy Hyena]], [[CuteGhostGirl The Banshee]], [[HotWitch The Weird Sisters]] (at least while Seline/Fury is in control), [[EveryoneLovesBlondes Robyn Canmore]], [[PerkyGoth Shari]], and [[ActionGirl Fox]] [[spoiler: at least until her HeelFaceTurn]], all qualify in spades for this. [[DracoInLeatherPants Xanatos]] easily counts as well, as does [[EvilTwin Thailog.]]Thailog]].



** Macbeth is based on the historical Macbeth, not the [[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespearean]] [[{{Theatre/Macbeth}} one.]] This is off-handedly referenced in the comic, when he and Arthur commiserate on historical accuracy.

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** Macbeth is based on the historical Macbeth, not the [[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespearean]] [[{{Theatre/Macbeth}} one.]] one]]. This is off-handedly referenced in the comic, when he and Arthur commiserate on historical accuracy.



** Goliath [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faLvr1LyL5o at one point uses the term "Forever alone.".]] [[MemeticMutation Several years later...]]

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** Goliath [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faLvr1LyL5o at one point uses the term "Forever alone.".]] "]] [[MemeticMutation Several years later...]]



** This is not the last time Creator/DavidWarner voiced [[VideoGame/BaldursGate an evil wizard]]

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** This is not the last time Creator/DavidWarner voiced [[VideoGame/BaldursGate an evil wizard]]wizard]].



** In "Walkabout," Anastasia Reynard, voiced by [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Kate Mulgrew,]] remarks that they don't know enough about hive mind artificial intelligence. The episode originally premiered before the Borg made their debut on Voyager, where much more about the Borg was revealed then had been known previous.

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** In "Walkabout," Anastasia Reynard, voiced by [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Kate Mulgrew,]] Mulgrew]], remarks that they don't know enough about hive mind artificial intelligence. The episode originally premiered before the Borg made their debut on Voyager, where much more about the Borg was revealed then had been known previous.



** In ''Grief'', Angela's line about "stopping the [[Franchise/AvatarTheLastAirbender avatar]]".

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** In ''Grief'', Angela's line about "stopping the [[Franchise/AvatarTheLastAirbender avatar]]".Franchise/{{avatar|TheLastAirbender}}".



** Even Owen Burnett, Xanatos' assistant, might qualify [[spoiler: being actually Puck and all.]]

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** Even Owen Burnett, Xanatos' assistant, might qualify [[spoiler: being actually Puck and all.]]all]].



** In "Deadly Force", Elisa is hit with a bullet which, according to the doctor, gets her in the stomach, collarbone, heart, lung, and spine, in that order. In an episode that otherwise handles its gun control [[AnAesop aesop]] pretty well, the ridiculous trajectory of the bullet is just plain laughable.

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** In "Deadly Force", Elisa is hit with a bullet which, according to the doctor, gets her in the stomach, collarbone, heart, lung, and spine, in that order. In an episode that otherwise handles its gun control [[AnAesop aesop]] {{a|nAesop}}esop pretty well, the ridiculous trajectory of the bullet is just plain laughable.



* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Given the fandom's reaction to [[FanonDisContinuity season 3]], most people see Greg as the true storyteller of the series.

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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Given the fandom's reaction to [[FanonDisContinuity [[FanonDiscontinuity season 3]], most people see Greg as the true storyteller of the series.



* TrueNeutral: [[TheGrimReaper Anubis]].

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* TrueNeutral: [[TheGrimReaper Anubis]].Anubis.]]



* VillainSue: In earlier episodes, Xanatos stopped just a hair's breadth of being one; he's Lex Luthor (amoral corporate genius inventor) crossed with Doctor Doom (power armor and enjoys mixing magic and science), handsomer than both, rich as hell, all of his plans [[XanatosGambit regardless of if you beat him]] go the way he wanted them to in some way, and most importantly, he is completely free of the weaknesses mastermind villains usually have, namely overwhelming ego (he has it, but he never lets it get in the way of anything), petty revenge fetishes ("Revenge is a sucker's game."), insanity (while he's amoral, he is not a sociopath or insane), and idleness (he always makes sure he can take care of himself if his plans fall apart). What's worse is that no matter what happens, it never feels like it was a major setback for him. As time went on, his weaknesses and flaws were found and elaborated on; namely, his standards make him human enough to genuinely love his family - yet his ambition is great enough he often sees that love as a weakness.
28th Jun '16 2:39:48 PM Nevermore2002
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* BetterOnDVD: Trust us, it truly is better on DVD. On the first run, season 1 episodes were shown ''once per week''. Season 2 had many reruns and episodes were shown out of order leading to many confusion among fans. And there's those annoying "ToBeContinued" at the end of some episodes...

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* BetterOnDVD: Trust us, it truly is better on DVD. On the first run, season 1 episodes were shown ''once per week''. Season 2 had many reruns and some episodes were shown out of order order, leading to many confusion among fans. And there's those annoying "ToBeContinued" at the end of some episodes...
28th Jun '16 2:37:06 PM Nevermore2002
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* BetterOnDVD: Trust us, it truly is better on DVD. On the first run, season 1 episodes were shown ''once per week''. Season 2 had many reruns and episodes were shown out of order leading to many confusion among fans. And there's those annoying "ToBeContinued" at the end of some episodes...
27th Jun '16 6:08:32 PM Nevermore2002
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* BaseBreaker: Some fans didn't like that Brooklyn named his son "Nashville". Other fans are fine with it as it fits the American location theme.

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* BaseBreaker: Some fans didn't like that Brooklyn [[spoiler:Brooklyn named his son "Nashville". Other fans are fine with it as it fits the American location theme.]]
27th Jun '16 5:49:17 PM Nevermore2002
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* BaseBreaker: Some fans didn't like that Brooklyn named his son "Nashville". Other fans are fine with it as it fits the landmark-theme naming.

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* BaseBreaker: Some fans didn't like that Brooklyn named his son "Nashville". Other fans are fine with it as it fits the landmark-theme naming.American location theme.
27th Jun '16 5:30:45 PM Nevermore2002
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* BaseBreaker: Some fans didn't like that Brooklyn named his son "Nashville". Other fans are fine with it as it fits the landmark-theme naming.
7th Apr '16 3:18:34 PM Thorion
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* SpiritualAdaptation: "The Hound of Ulster" is essentially an adaptation of the debut of TheMightyThor in JourneyIntoMystery #83. A modern person discovers an old stick/cane underground which turns out to be the disguised weapon of a mythological god/hero, which transforms him into said god/hero. Greg regrets this similarity.
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