History YMMV / GameOfThrones

24th Jun '17 11:28:02 AM DustSnitch
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* UnexpectedCharacter: ''No one'' has any idea that the Night King is behind (or at least heavily involved with) the rising of the White Walkers. Not the Night's Watch, not Melisandre, no one. This is also a meta-example -- in the books, he was just a part of the series backstory, and readers had no way of knowing he would appear in the show. Though interestingly enough, The King of Winter, a character very similar to him appeared two years earlier in the ''Night's Watch'' supplement for the Creator/GreenRonin ''A Song of Ice and Fire Roleplaying Game''; the origin is different, being the monarch of the Others from before their fall, but his role as their Big Bad and king is essentially the same, and there's even a similar description regarding a deformity resembling a crown on his head.
21st Jun '17 10:31:28 PM JulianLapostat
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** [[spoiler:Stannis]] who was killed off in an incredibly ignominious fashion after [[spoiler:sacrificing his daughter]] and having his army [[spoiler:slaughtered by the Boltons]]. Especially as [[spoiler:Shireen's]] death hasn't happened at that point in the books, [[spoiler:Stannis]] is still alive in the books, and [[spoiler: Stephen Dillane]] is thought to be one of the best actors in the show. ''All that said'', the show is past the book when this occurred and Martin openly confirmed that [[spoiler:Book Stannis will still be sacrificing Shireen exactly like Show Stannis did.]]

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** [[spoiler:Stannis]] who was killed off in an incredibly ignominious fashion after [[spoiler:sacrificing his daughter]] and having his army [[spoiler:slaughtered by the Boltons]]. Especially as [[spoiler:Shireen's]] death hasn't happened at that point in the books, [[spoiler:Stannis]] is still alive in the books, and [[spoiler: Stephen Dillane]] is thought to be one of the best actors in the show. ''All that said'', the show is past the book when this occurred and Martin openly confirmed that [[spoiler:Book Stannis will still be sacrificing Shireen exactly like Show Stannis did.]]
21st Jun '17 8:59:32 PM Repo
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** [[spoiler:Stannis]] who was killed off in an incredibly ignominious fashion after [[spoiler:sacrificing his daughter]] and having his army [[spoiler:slaughtered by the Boltons]]. Especially as [[spoiler:Shireen's]] death hasn't happened at that point in the books, Martin has confirmed [[spoiler:Stannis]] is still alive in the books, and [[spoiler: Stephen Dillane]] is thought to be one of the best actors in the show.

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** [[spoiler:Stannis]] who was killed off in an incredibly ignominious fashion after [[spoiler:sacrificing his daughter]] and having his army [[spoiler:slaughtered by the Boltons]]. Especially as [[spoiler:Shireen's]] death hasn't happened at that point in the books, Martin has confirmed [[spoiler:Stannis]] is still alive in the books, and [[spoiler: Stephen Dillane]] is thought to be one of the best actors in the show. ''All that said'', the show is past the book when this occurred and Martin openly confirmed that [[spoiler:Book Stannis will still be sacrificing Shireen exactly like Show Stannis did.]]
12th Jun '17 5:11:02 PM Scabbard
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** Brienne/Jaime are popular as they spend a lot of screen time alone traveling Westeros together, and Brienne pushes Jaime to become a much better person than he is around Cersei.
*** However coming out of nowhere in Season 6, and taking a surprising lead, Brienne/Tormund. Tormund has expressed nothing but enthusiastic appreciation for the very traits others mock in Brienne. So while Brienne has so far shown only confusion and even disgust at Tormund, many fans are hoping she will eventually reciprocate.

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** Brienne/Jaime are popular as they spend a lot of screen time alone traveling Westeros together, and Brienne pushes Jaime to become rediscover his honor and strive to be a much better person than he is around Cersei.person.
*** However coming out of nowhere in Season 6, and taking a surprising lead, Brienne/Tormund. Tormund has expressed nothing but Tormund's enthusiastic appreciation for the very traits others [[NoGuyWantsAnAmazon mock in Brienne. So while Brienne has so far shown only confusion and even disgust at Tormund, many fans are hoping she will eventually reciprocate.Brienne]] immediately made the ship a hit within a single episode.
12th Jun '17 3:11:01 PM Scabbard
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*** However coming out of nowhere in Season 6, and taking a surprising lead, Brienne/Tormund.

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*** However coming out of nowhere in Season 6, and taking a surprising lead, Brienne/Tormund. Tormund has expressed nothing but enthusiastic appreciation for the very traits others mock in Brienne. So while Brienne has so far shown only confusion and even disgust at Tormund, many fans are hoping she will eventually reciprocate.
31st May '17 8:04:46 AM TompaDompa
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*** A very popular fan theory that has emerged is that [[spoiler: the Margaery Tyrell who died could be a faceless man hired to save Loras and kill the High Sparrow. Said faceless man would've been hired by Mace in Braavos back in S5's finale as things had begun to go to hell already. The real Margaery is chilling in High Garden and plotting her revenge against Queen Cersei. However, this theory has a pretty glaring hole - the faces faceless men use are taken from corpses.]]

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*** A very popular fan theory that has emerged is that [[spoiler: the Margaery Tyrell who died could be a faceless man hired to save Loras and kill the High Sparrow. Said faceless man would've been hired by Mace in Braavos back in S5's finale as things had begun to go to hell already. The real Margaery is chilling in High Garden and plotting her revenge against Queen Cersei. However, this theory has a pretty glaring hole - the faces faceless men use are taken from corpses.]]
30th May '17 1:52:24 PM Xythos
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Surprisingly enough, a lot of fans express sympathy for Hizdahr zo Loraq, of all people, and his relationship with Dany. He is one of the native Meereenese in her council and is regarded largely with suspicion, but his backstory makes him a {{Woobie}}; after seeing his father unjustly killed, he tries to reason with the ruler who killed him and be the bigger man, and when things for said ruler go south, he's one of the ones tortured and locked up as a scapegoat, and is told he must marry said ruler against his will. Some fans note how this sounds suspiciously like how Joffrey treated Sansa Stark. It even ended worse for Hizdahr, since he actually had to go through with the marriage, and despite suspicion that he was the leader of the Harpies, he actually wound up ''killed'' by them, meaning he was exactly what he appeared to be: someone who was trying to make the best of the conquest of his city and death of his father without selling out his morals. Yet because it was Danaerys who did the conquering, he was depicted as a whiner and went unmourned when he kicked the bucket.

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Surprisingly enough, a lot of fans express sympathy for Hizdahr zo Loraq, of all people, and his relationship with Dany. He is one of the native Meereenese in her council and is regarded largely with suspicion, but his backstory makes him a {{Woobie}}; after seeing his father unjustly killed, he tries to reason with the ruler who killed him and be the bigger man, and when things for said ruler go south, he's one of the ones tortured and locked up as a scapegoat, and is told he must marry said ruler against his will. Some fans note how this sounds suspiciously like how Joffrey treated Sansa Stark. It even ended worse for Hizdahr, since he actually had to go through with the marriage, and despite suspicion that he was the leader of the Harpies, he actually wound up ''killed'' by them, meaning he was exactly what he appeared to be: someone who was trying to make the best of the conquest of his city and death of his father without selling out his morals. Yet because it was Danaerys who did the conquering, he was depicted as a whiner and went unmourned when he kicked the bucket. bucket.
** Despite his AdaptationalVillainy, Stannis Baratheon still has a lot of fans who appreciate his deadpan humour and conflicted nature. Even after the events of season 5, most of his fanbase sees his TV!version as a capable, if tragically misguided, leader, and is of the opinion that his campaign, as unsuccessful as it was, paved the road for [[spoiler: the defeat of the Boltons]]. It also helps that Stephen Dillane is considered one of the best actors of the show.
17th May '17 7:36:08 PM ruthlesstyrant
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*** A very popular fan theory that has emerged is that [[spoiler: the Margaery Tyrell who died could be a faceless man hired to save Loras and kill the High Sparrow. Said faceless man would've been hired by Mace in Braavos back in S5's finale as things had begun to go to hell already. The real Margaery is chilling in High Garden and plotting her revenge against Queen Cersei.]]

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*** A very popular fan theory that has emerged is that [[spoiler: the Margaery Tyrell who died could be a faceless man hired to save Loras and kill the High Sparrow. Said faceless man would've been hired by Mace in Braavos back in S5's finale as things had begun to go to hell already. The real Margaery is chilling in High Garden and plotting her revenge against Queen Cersei. However, this theory has a pretty glaring hole - the faces faceless men use are taken from corpses.]]
15th May '17 7:15:14 AM JulianLapostat
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*** This is mostly the result of AdaptationDistillation; while it isn't a central theme in the books the relative prevalence of secularism is justified very strongly in the books: the Targaryens worshiped themselves and often rejected the Western gods entirely, the Maesters are explicitly non-religious and have deals in place with all of the major families to secure de facto freedom of religion in order to protect their own interests, and the last time the church had miracles to back up its faith the Maesters had full-on Gandalf-level wizardry and could very easily show up even the most powerful prophet or church mystic while grinning insolently and flipping the bird at heaven. These were among the things cut from the television version to avoid every season being 300 hours long. Essentially, Westeros is a fantasy setting, not a medieval setting.
14th May '17 1:07:51 PM Alas_Poor_Donny
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*** This is mostly the result of AdaptationDistillation; while it isn't a central theme in the books the relative prevalence of secularism is justified very strongly in the books: the Targaryens worshiped themselves and often rejected the Western gods entirely, the Maesters are explicitly non-religious and have deals in place with all of the major families to secure de facto freedom of religion in order to protect their own interests, and the last time the church had miracles to back up its faith the Maesters had full-on Gandalf-level wizardry and could very easily show up even the most powerful prophet or church mystic while grinning insolently and flipping the bird at heaven. These were among the things cut from the television version to avoid every season being 300 hours long. Essentially, Westeros is a fantasy setting, not a medieval setting.
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