History YMMV / GSN

8th Aug '16 10:51:58 PM Twentington
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* TheyJustDidntCare: The aforementioned credit crunches.
** The aforementioned "Name It/Claim It": two contestants answer questions about game shows, with the first letter of each answer going into a puzzle. The first player to solve the puzzle wins the solution, which is a prize. Simple, but not only were the players dumb but technical problems plagued this segment. Howie's arguably at his best here.
*** #1: Who was the first host of the classic game show ''Series/LetsMakeADeal''? The female got this one easily: Monty Hall.
*** #2: What Bob was the original host of ''Series/TheNewlywedGame''? No response.
--->'''Howie:''' You came to the ''Game Show Awards'' and you know nothing about them. [...] Do either of you know what letter would go up there with the answer "Eubanks"?\\
'''Male Contestant:''' (''after trying to buzz-in'') U.\\
'''Howie:''' "U" know nothing!
*** Howie then asked the players if either knew the puzzle solution, forgetting that a correct answer had to be given first.
--->'''Howie:''' Voices from the back going (''deep voice'') "NO!"
*** #3: What reality competition TV show is hosted by Jeff Probst? No response, despite the fact that the previous (unaired) question was apparently "Who is the host of ''Series/{{Survivor}}''?"
--->'''Howie:''' Do either of you have a television?
*** And then the "S" refused to appear on the board.
--->'''Howie:''' This is a well-oiled machine. [...] You don't think Vanna does much, it's ''so'' tough without her. [...] I feel very alone. With all this talent sitting here they chose the one guy who goes "Open your case." [...] Does [the "S"] go up there? Do I wait for it? Do I move on? I'm smiling on the outside, but inside [[BringMyBrownPants I'm shitting myself]].
*** #4: Who is the announcer on tonight's show? '''No response!''' [[note]](Rich Fields.)[[/note]]
--->'''Howie:''' I think I'm gonna win!
*** #5: In the [[Creator/{{NBC}} primetime]] version of [[Series/DealOrNoDeal my show]], how many cases are there at the beginning of the game? Female contestant buzzes-in, says..."22." [[note]]The correct answer is "26."[[/note]]
*** #6: What classic game show had players trying to remember where matching prizes were located on a board? Female contestant buzzes-in, says......"''{{Series/Concentration}}''", a show that at the time hadn't been on the air in '''''15 years!''''' (Causing, as you may expect, a stunned reply from the audience and Howie.)
*** With only O's not showing, she gets the answer of "Motor Scooter" and puts this game out of its misery.
** The network uses a time-compression machine, which should be no big deal since 1) most time-compression machines make imperceptible changes and 2) the compression is a necessary evil, given that most of the lineup comes from an era when commercial breaks were much shorter in proportion to program length than they are now. However, the operators clearly have ''no idea'' how to run the compressor, leading to frequent video glitches and brief moments where it seems as if everyone is suddenly talking like the MicroMachines man and the Dawson-era ''Series/FamilyFeud'' intro particularly tends to get butchered. Less commonly, the compressor will "choke" and repeat a short segment multiple times at a progressively faster speed, almost giving the impression of a YouTubePoop.
** Their "50 Greatest Game Shows of All Time" countdown included ''Series/YouBetYourLife'' and ''Series/ThePriceIsRight'', while not airing an episode of either. Although not too bad on the surface, the same marathon proved that GSN '''did''' pay for a 2000 episode of ''Series/ShopTilYouDrop'' a series they never aired before, and didn't add to their regular schedule until 2013 while ''not'' airing either ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' or ''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'', both of which were '''already on the schedule!'''
14th Jan '16 11:02:05 AM themisterfree
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** In October 1997, the network lost the rights to every show from the Creator/MarkGoodson-Bill Todman library except ''Series/ThePriceIsRight'' and the 1994-95 season of ''Series/FamilyFeud'' (where Richard Dawson returned). This time was called the Dark Period, and to be fair it resulted in several lesser-known games being aired (''The Diamond Head Game'', ''Juvenile Jury'', ''Pass The Buck'', etc.) that the network didn't really show otherwise. The Goodson-Todman shows returned in April 1998, but there was less variety for a while on the daily schedule and some programs remained MIA.

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** In October 1997, the network lost the rights to every show from the Creator/MarkGoodson-Bill Todman library except ''Series/ThePriceIsRight'' and the 1994-95 season of ''Series/FamilyFeud'' (where Richard Dawson returned). This time was called the Dark Period, Period (after a station ID used during the era with a light-colored logo against a dark background), and to be fair it resulted in several lesser-known games being aired (''The Diamond Head Game'', ''Juvenile Jury'', ''Pass The Buck'', etc.) that the network didn't really show otherwise. The Goodson-Todman shows returned in April 1998, but there was less variety for a while on the daily schedule and some programs remained MIA.
17th Nov '15 5:39:52 PM jameygamer
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*** All of this helped enforce the GameShow genre's current DorkAge, and Fremantle Media finally begin broadcasting their own game show channel, Buzzr, which currently features the classic shows GSN hasn't really broadcast in a while except for mornings.

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*** All of this helped enforce the GameShow genre's current DorkAge, and Fremantle Media finally begin broadcasting their own game show channel, Buzzr, which currently features the classic shows GSN hasn't really broadcast in a while except for mornings. It remains to be seen if GSN's NetworkDecay threatens to derail their position with Buzzr now in the equation as a competing channel.
17th Nov '15 5:33:54 PM jameygamer
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*** All of this helped enforce the GameShow genre's current DorkAge, and Fremantle Media finally begin broadcasting their own game show channel, Buzzr, which currently features the classic shows GSN hasn't really broadcast in a while except for mornings.
10th Nov '15 7:59:36 AM Anddrix
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*** ''Faux Pause'', an original series during the Dark Period, attempted to be "''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' [[XMeetsY does]] [[SoBadItsGood bad]] {{Game Show}}s" and fell on its face. Two {{Jerkass}} "hosts" who clearly didn't know or care about game shows mocked either classics or cult favorites by way of "jokes" that were usually corny and sometimes went into DudeNotFunny (the ''Series/HotPotato'' episode being a particularly {{egregious}} example). Had they not shown a few genuine rarities (the 1975 ''Hollywood Connection'' pilot, an episode of the 1980 ''Camouflage'', two episodes of ''[[Series/BullseyeUS Bullseye]]'', and a still-shot of the slate from the only surviving episode of ''Series/WinningStreak''), this travesty would've been long since forgotten.

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*** ''Faux Pause'', an original series during the Dark Period, attempted to be "''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' [[XMeetsY does]] [[SoBadItsGood bad]] {{Game Show}}s" and fell on its face. Two {{Jerkass}} "hosts" who clearly didn't know or care about game shows mocked either classics or cult favorites by way of "jokes" that were usually corny and sometimes went into DudeNotFunny offensiveness (the ''Series/HotPotato'' episode being a particularly {{egregious}} example). Had they not shown a few genuine rarities (the 1975 ''Hollywood Connection'' pilot, an episode of the 1980 ''Camouflage'', two episodes of ''[[Series/BullseyeUS Bullseye]]'', and a still-shot of the slate from the only surviving episode of ''Series/WinningStreak''), this travesty would've been long since forgotten.
27th Jun '15 1:17:38 PM Gimere
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*** #1: Who was the first host of the classic game show ''Let's Make A Deal''? The female got this one easily: Monty Hall.
*** #2: What Bob was the original host of ''TheNewlywedGame''? No response.

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*** #1: Who was the first host of the classic game show ''Let's Make A Deal''? ''Series/LetsMakeADeal''? The female got this one easily: Monty Hall.
*** #2: What Bob was the original host of ''TheNewlywedGame''? ''Series/TheNewlywedGame''? No response.



*** #3: What reality competition TV show is hosted by Jeff Probst? No response, despite the fact that the previous (unaired) question was apparently "Who is the host of ''Survivor''?"

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*** #3: What reality competition TV show is hosted by Jeff Probst? No response, despite the fact that the previous (unaired) question was apparently "Who is the host of ''Survivor''?"''Series/{{Survivor}}''?"



*** #5: In the [[Creator/{{NBC}} primetime]] version of [[DealOrNoDeal my show]], how many cases are there at the beginning of the game? Female contestant buzzes-in, says..."22."

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*** #5: In the [[Creator/{{NBC}} primetime]] version of [[DealOrNoDeal [[Series/DealOrNoDeal my show]], how many cases are there at the beginning of the game? Female contestant buzzes-in, says..."22."" [[note]]The correct answer is "26."[[/note]]



** The network uses a time-compression machine, which should be no big deal since 1) most time-compression machines make imperceptible changes and 2) the compression is a necessary evil, given that most of the lineup comes from an era when commercial breaks were much shorter in proportion to program length than they are now. However, the operators clearly have ''no idea'' how to run the compressor, leading to frequent video glitches and brief moments where it seems as if everyone is suddenly talking like the MicroMachines man and the Dawson-era ''Family Feud'' intro particularly tends to get butchered. Less commonly, the compressor will "choke" and repeat a short segment multiple times at a progressively faster speed, almost giving the impression of a YouTubePoop.
** Their "50 Greatest Game Shows of All Time" countdown included ''Series/YouBetYourLife'' and ''The Price Is Right'', while not airing an episode of either. Although not too bad on the surface, the same marathon proved that GSN '''did''' pay for a 2000 episode of ''ShopTilYouDrop'' a series they never aired before, and didn't add to their regular schedule until 2013 while ''not'' airing either ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' or ''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'', both of which were '''already on the schedule!'''

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** The network uses a time-compression machine, which should be no big deal since 1) most time-compression machines make imperceptible changes and 2) the compression is a necessary evil, given that most of the lineup comes from an era when commercial breaks were much shorter in proportion to program length than they are now. However, the operators clearly have ''no idea'' how to run the compressor, leading to frequent video glitches and brief moments where it seems as if everyone is suddenly talking like the MicroMachines man and the Dawson-era ''Family Feud'' ''Series/FamilyFeud'' intro particularly tends to get butchered. Less commonly, the compressor will "choke" and repeat a short segment multiple times at a progressively faster speed, almost giving the impression of a YouTubePoop.
** Their "50 Greatest Game Shows of All Time" countdown included ''Series/YouBetYourLife'' and ''The Price Is Right'', ''Series/ThePriceIsRight'', while not airing an episode of either. Although not too bad on the surface, the same marathon proved that GSN '''did''' pay for a 2000 episode of ''ShopTilYouDrop'' ''Series/ShopTilYouDrop'' a series they never aired before, and didn't add to their regular schedule until 2013 while ''not'' airing either ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' or ''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'', both of which were '''already on the schedule!'''
30th Apr '15 9:24:08 AM nombretomado
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** Then came an onslaught of lame original programming (''[[TheGongShow Extreme Gong]]'', ''Throut and Neck'', ''D.J. Games'') plus the beginning of credit crunches and editing out fee plugs, which would go on to continue to plague the network for classic game show fans. The rights to ''Price'' would be lost for good in April 2000, and vintage black-and-white shows of the 1950-69 era became rarer still. The quality of the network has been fluctuating ever since.

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** Then came an onslaught of lame original programming (''[[TheGongShow (''[[Series/TheGongShow Extreme Gong]]'', ''Throut and Neck'', ''D.J. Games'') plus the beginning of credit crunches and editing out fee plugs, which would go on to continue to plague the network for classic game show fans. The rights to ''Price'' would be lost for good in April 2000, and vintage black-and-white shows of the 1950-69 era became rarer still. The quality of the network has been fluctuating ever since.
3rd Dec '14 11:59:30 AM nombretomado
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*** #6: What classic game show had players trying to remember where matching prizes were located on a board? Female contestant buzzes-in, says......"''{{Concentration}}''", a show that at the time hadn't been on the air in '''''15 years!''''' (Causing, as you may expect, a stunned reply from the audience and Howie.)

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*** #6: What classic game show had players trying to remember where matching prizes were located on a board? Female contestant buzzes-in, says......"''{{Concentration}}''", "''{{Series/Concentration}}''", a show that at the time hadn't been on the air in '''''15 years!''''' (Causing, as you may expect, a stunned reply from the audience and Howie.)
21st Jun '14 1:26:56 PM WarioBarker
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*** ''Faux Pause'', an original series during the Dark Period, attempted to be "''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' [[XMeetsY does]] [[SoBadItsGood bad]] {{Game Show}}s" and fell on its face. Two {{Jerkass}} "hosts" who clearly didn't know or care about game shows mocked either classics or cult favorites by way of "jokes" that were usually corny and sometimes went into DudeNotFunny (the ''Series/HotPotato'' episode being a particularly {{egregious}} example). Had they not shown a few genuine rarities (the 1975 ''Hollywood Connection'' pilot and an episode of the 1980 ''Camouflage''), this travesty would've been long since forgotten.

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*** ''Faux Pause'', an original series during the Dark Period, attempted to be "''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' [[XMeetsY does]] [[SoBadItsGood bad]] {{Game Show}}s" and fell on its face. Two {{Jerkass}} "hosts" who clearly didn't know or care about game shows mocked either classics or cult favorites by way of "jokes" that were usually corny and sometimes went into DudeNotFunny (the ''Series/HotPotato'' episode being a particularly {{egregious}} example). Had they not shown a few genuine rarities (the 1975 ''Hollywood Connection'' pilot and pilot, an episode of the 1980 ''Camouflage''), ''Camouflage'', two episodes of ''[[Series/BullseyeUS Bullseye]]'', and a still-shot of the slate from the only surviving episode of ''Series/WinningStreak''), this travesty would've been long since forgotten.



** The 2009 ''Game Show Awards'', hosted by Howie Mandel and announced by Rich Fields, invited a metric ton of game show celebs and attempted to play up the cheese factor (walking the shag carpet!). Unfortunately, several factors made sure it didn't improve most game show fans' opinion of GSN:

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** The 2009 ''Game Show Awards'', hosted by Howie Mandel and announced by with Rich Fields, Fields as announcer, invited a metric ton of game show celebs and attempted to play up the cheese factor (walking the shag carpet!). Unfortunately, several factors made sure it didn't improve most game show fans' opinion of GSN:



*** Minigames were interspersed throughout, but had the '''dumbest''' people as contestants. See EpicFail on the main tab for "Name It/Claim It".
** A 2010 poll on GSN's Web site asked viewers whether they wanted to see A) Wish-Fulfillment Reality Shows or B) Decades-Old Reruns of Game Shows. [[SarcasmMode Clearly, no bias was present.]]

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*** Minigames were interspersed throughout, but had the '''dumbest''' people as contestants. See EpicFail on contestants, particularly the main tab for "Name mess that was "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVfsgEo6li4 Name It/Claim It".
It]]"
** A 2010 poll on GSN's Web site website asked viewers whether they wanted to see A) Wish-Fulfillment Reality Shows or B) Decades-Old Reruns of Game Shows. [[SarcasmMode Clearly, no bias was present.]]]]
** The debacle that was ''Big Saturday Night'', consisting of ''20Q'', ''The Money List'', and a bunch of wraparound segments hosted by people who had no idea how to host a game show. Including some painfully unfunny skits that seemed to insult the genre's fans. Not even condensing the wraparounds into its own half-hour slot worked.


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** The aforementioned "Name It/Claim It": two contestants answer questions about game shows, with the first letter of each answer going into a puzzle. The first player to solve the puzzle wins the solution, which is a prize. Simple, but not only were the players dumb but technical problems plagued this segment. Howie's arguably at his best here.
*** #1: Who was the first host of the classic game show ''Let's Make A Deal''? The female got this one easily: Monty Hall.
*** #2: What Bob was the original host of ''TheNewlywedGame''? No response.
--->'''Howie:''' You came to the ''Game Show Awards'' and you know nothing about them. [...] Do either of you know what letter would go up there with the answer "Eubanks"?\\
'''Male Contestant:''' (''after trying to buzz-in'') U.\\
'''Howie:''' "U" know nothing!
*** Howie then asked the players if either knew the puzzle solution, forgetting that a correct answer had to be given first.
--->'''Howie:''' Voices from the back going (''deep voice'') "NO!"
*** #3: What reality competition TV show is hosted by Jeff Probst? No response, despite the fact that the previous (unaired) question was apparently "Who is the host of ''Survivor''?"
--->'''Howie:''' Do either of you have a television?
*** And then the "S" refused to appear on the board.
--->'''Howie:''' This is a well-oiled machine. [...] You don't think Vanna does much, it's ''so'' tough without her. [...] I feel very alone. With all this talent sitting here they chose the one guy who goes "Open your case." [...] Does [the "S"] go up there? Do I wait for it? Do I move on? I'm smiling on the outside, but inside [[BringMyBrownPants I'm shitting myself]].
*** #4: Who is the announcer on tonight's show? '''No response!''' [[note]](Rich Fields.)[[/note]]
--->'''Howie:''' I think I'm gonna win!
*** #5: In the [[Creator/{{NBC}} primetime]] version of [[DealOrNoDeal my show]], how many cases are there at the beginning of the game? Female contestant buzzes-in, says..."22."
*** #6: What classic game show had players trying to remember where matching prizes were located on a board? Female contestant buzzes-in, says......"''{{Concentration}}''", a show that at the time hadn't been on the air in '''''15 years!''''' (Causing, as you may expect, a stunned reply from the audience and Howie.)
*** With only O's not showing, she gets the answer of "Motor Scooter" and puts this game out of its misery.
13th Nov '13 8:11:33 PM supersaver87
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** There are constant debates on what should and shouldn't be on the schedules (search for "GSN Dream Schedule"). Currently, the only "classics" on the network are ''Series/FamilyFeud'', ''Series/MatchGame'', ''CardSharks'' and ''[[Series/{{Pyramid}} The $25,000 [=Pyramid=]]]'', with everything else being from the last 10 years or so.

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** There are constant debates on what should and shouldn't be on the schedules (search for "GSN Dream Schedule"). Currently, the only "classics" on the network are ''Series/FamilyFeud'', ''Series/MatchGame'', ''CardSharks'' and ''[[Series/{{Pyramid}} The $25,000 [=Pyramid=]]]'', with everything else being from the last 10 years or so.



** Their "50 Greatest Game Shows of All Time" countdown included ''Series/YouBetYourLife'' and ''The Price Is Right'', while not airing an episode of either. Although not too bad on the surface, the same marathon proved that GSN '''did''' pay for a 2000 episode of ''ShopTilYouDrop'' a series they haven't aired before or since while ''not'' airing either ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' or ''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'', both of which were '''already on the schedule!'''

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** Their "50 Greatest Game Shows of All Time" countdown included ''Series/YouBetYourLife'' and ''The Price Is Right'', while not airing an episode of either. Although not too bad on the surface, the same marathon proved that GSN '''did''' pay for a 2000 episode of ''ShopTilYouDrop'' a series they haven't never aired before or since before, and didn't add to their regular schedule until 2013 while ''not'' airing either ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' or ''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'', both of which were '''already on the schedule!'''
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