History YMMV / FushigiYuugi

16th May '18 8:23:46 PM BatmanKalEl
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Nakago has done atrocious deeds, but lots of fangirls love him and handwave his evil actions just because he's [[{{Bishonen}} OMG SO PRETTY]]. The fact that he's Watase's personal favourite character doesn't exactly help.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: DracoInLeatherPants:
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Nakago has done atrocious deeds, but lots of fangirls love him and handwave his evil actions just because he's [[{{Bishonen}} OMG SO PRETTY]]. The fact that he's Watase's personal favourite character doesn't exactly help.



* HoYay: Nuriko's feelings for Hotohori and Tomo's for Nakago, both canon. Plus, the aforementioned Tamahome/Nakago FoeYay.

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* HoYay: HoYay:
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Nuriko's feelings for Hotohori and Tomo's for Nakago, both canon. Plus, the aforementioned Tamahome/Nakago FoeYay.



* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Suboshi violently killing Tamahome's father and little siblings.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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[[spoiler:Suboshi violently killing Tamahome's father and little siblings.]]
10th Apr '18 7:16:14 PM Orbiting
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** Is Nuriko really a {{Transsexual}}, or did he just pick up a female personality to be like his [[spoiler: dead]] sister, and the manly personality from volume 9 onward was his real personality? Are his feelings for Miaka [[LikeBrotherAndSister platonic]] or romantic?

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** Is Nuriko really a {{Transsexual}}, {{Transgender}}, or did he just pick up a female personality to be like his [[spoiler: dead]] sister, and the manly personality from volume 9 onward was his real personality? Are his feelings for Miaka [[LikeBrotherAndSister platonic]] or romantic?
27th Jan '18 3:05:20 PM GlitteringFlowers
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** Miboshi is a CreepyChild who [[OlderThanTheyLook is truly far older than he appears]]. Miboshi's MO is to [[DemonicPossession possess his victims]] and turn them against their friends, forcing the friends to experience the pain of betrayal and delighting at the agony he causes to his host by forcing them to harm the ones they love the most. [[spoiler: Made even worse by how the ''Byakko Ibun'' prequel hints that [[FallenHero he did not start this way]].]]

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** Miboshi is a CreepyChild who [[OlderThanTheyLook is truly far older than he appears]]. Miboshi's MO is to [[DemonicPossession possess his victims]] and turn them against their friends, forcing the friends to experience the pain of betrayal and delighting at the agony he causes to his host by forcing them to harm the ones they love the most. [[spoiler: Made even worse by how the ''Byakko Ibun'' ''Manga/FushigiYuugiByakkoIbun'' prequel hints states that [[FallenHero he did not start this way]].]]
29th Dec '17 12:27:33 PM BatmanKalEl
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** Nakago has proved to be an extremely controversial character on even this very wiki. He's a MagnificentBastard and sympathetic WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds for some, a vile InvincibleVillain for others. There's ''very'' little in-between, and him being the ([[WordOfGod confessed]]) CreatorsFavorite doesn't help.

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** Nakago has proved to be an extremely controversial character on even this very wiki. He's a MagnificentBastard and sympathetic WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds for some, a vile InvincibleVillain for others. There's ''very'' little in-between, and him being the ([[WordOfGod confessed]]) CreatorsFavorite doesn't help.



* BrokenBase:
** The ending has Nuriko reincarnated as a little girl who seems to be friends with an also-little Hotohori. While many fans love this as Nuriko now can be with Hotohori, just as many fans aren't pleased since they were impressed with Nuriko when he was being manly, and feel that by making him reborn as a girl, it destroyed all his efforts to leave behind his little sister's shadow and forced him into the stereotypical {{Uke}} role. Let's just leave it at that.

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* BrokenBase:
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BrokenBase: The ending has Nuriko reincarnated as a little girl who seems to be friends with an also-little Hotohori. While many fans love this as Nuriko now can be with Hotohori, just as many fans aren't pleased since they were impressed with Nuriko when he was being manly, and feel that by making him reborn as a girl, it destroyed all his efforts to leave behind his little sister's shadow and forced him into the stereotypical {{Uke}} role. Let's just leave it at that.
19th Nov '17 6:22:39 PM lalaTKG
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** Is Nuriko really a {{Transsexual}}, or did he just pick up a female personality to be like his [[spoiler: dead]] sister, and the manly personality from volume 9 onward was his real personality? Are his feelings for Miaka [[LikeBrotherAndSister platonic]] or romantic?



** Nakago has proved to be an extremely controversial character on this very wiki. He's a MagnificentBastard and sympathetic WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds for some, a vile InvincibleVillain for others. There's ''very'' little in-between, and him being the ([[WordOfGod confessed]]) CreatorsFavorite doesn't help.

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** Nakago has proved to be an extremely controversial character on even this very wiki. He's a MagnificentBastard and sympathetic WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds for some, a vile InvincibleVillain for others. There's ''very'' little in-between, and him being the ([[WordOfGod confessed]]) CreatorsFavorite doesn't help.



** The ending has Nuriko reincarnated as a little girl who seems to be friend with an also little Hotohori. While many fans love this as Nuriko now can be with Hotohori, just as many fans aren't pleased since they were impressed with Nuriko when he was being manly, and feel that by making him reborned as a girl, it destroyed all his efforts to leave behind his little sister's shadow and forced him on the stereotypical {{Uke}} role. Let's just leave it at that.
** Also, is Nuriko really a {{Transsexual}}, or just picked up a female personality to be like his [[spoiler: dead]] sister, and the manly personality from volume 9 onward was his real personality? Is his feelings for Miaka [[LikeBrotherAndSister platonic]] or romantic? Let's also just leave it at that.

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** The ending has Nuriko reincarnated as a little girl who seems to be friend friends with an also little also-little Hotohori. While many fans love this as Nuriko now can be with Hotohori, just as many fans aren't pleased since they were impressed with Nuriko when he was being manly, and feel that by making him reborned reborn as a girl, it destroyed all his efforts to leave behind his little sister's shadow and forced him on into the stereotypical {{Uke}} role. Let's just leave it at that.
** Also, is Nuriko really a {{Transsexual}}, or just picked up a female personality to be like his [[spoiler: dead]] sister, and the manly personality from volume 9 onward was his real personality? Is his feelings for Miaka [[LikeBrotherAndSister platonic]] or romantic? Let's also just leave it at
that.



* HilariousInHindsight: In the first volume, [[WholesomeCrossdresser Nuriko]] was [[CrazyJealousGuy madly in love with Hotohori]], and hated Miaka enough to [[MurderTheHypotenuse attempt drowning her.]] Also, he claimed that he had the heart of a woman despite being a man. Eight volume later, [[RealMenWearPink Nuriko]] cut his hair, ditched his female side and behaved so manly that even Miaka was impressed. He then stated that [[{{Irony}} his male side just see Hotohori as a friend and the one he loved now was Miaka.]] And [[IJustWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he was mature enough to let Miaka and Tamahome be happy together]], unlike how crazily jealous he was before. This guy's CharacterizationMarchesOn and CharacterDevelopment is just pure awesome.

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* HilariousInHindsight: In the first volume, [[WholesomeCrossdresser Nuriko]] was [[CrazyJealousGuy madly in love with Hotohori]], and hated Miaka enough to [[MurderTheHypotenuse attempt drowning her.]] Also, he claimed that he had the heart of a woman despite being a man. Eight volume later, [[RealMenWearPink Nuriko]] cut his hair, ditched his female side and behaved so manly that even Miaka was impressed. He then stated that [[{{Irony}} his male side just see sees Hotohori as a friend and the one he loved now was Miaka.]] And [[IJustWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he was mature enough to let Miaka and Tamahome be happy together]], unlike how crazily jealous he was before. This guy's CharacterizationMarchesOn and CharacterDevelopment is just pure awesome.



* TheScrappy: The anime's portrayal of Miaka tends to get disliked. The manga portrays her in a more realistic way. Ironically, [[ReplacementScrappy Mayo Sakaki]] from ''Eikoden'' actually [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap replaced Miaka as the Scrappy in the eyes of some fans]] with the release of ''Eikoden''. Ashitare, Yui and Tomo have also gained a degree of Scrappydom. In fact, Miaka is one of the most ''hated'' female characters in anime/manga -- to the degree when fans used a "Level of Suck" meter to measure other shoujo heroines. "At least she's not a Miaka".

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* TheScrappy: The anime's TheScrappy:
** Miaka, dear lord. While the manga portrays her in a more realistic way, the [[{{Flanderization}} anime's]]
portrayal of Miaka tends to get disliked. The manga portrays her In fact, Miaka used to be one of the most ''hated'' female characters in anime/manga -- to the degree that fans used a more realistic way. "Level of Suck" meter to measure other shoujo heroines("At least she's not a Miaka").
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Ironically, [[ReplacementScrappy Mayo Sakaki]] from ''Eikoden'' actually [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap replaced Miaka as the Scrappy in the eyes of some fans]] with the release of ''Eikoden''. Being selfish, rude, and obsessed with her own love story didn't win her any points from fans.
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Ashitare, Yui and Tomo have also gained a degree of Scrappydom. In fact, Miaka is one of the most ''hated'' female characters in anime/manga -- to the degree when fans used a "Level of Suck" meter to measure other shoujo heroines. "At least she's not a Miaka".
3rd Nov '17 1:59:07 PM BatmanKalEl
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: * Nakago is supposed to be seen as a [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds victim of circumstances that drove him to evil]], and as a result, the intent is to make him come across as pitiable and worthy of forgiveness. Because of the horrific atrocities he commits, [[spoiler:like driving Suboshi to murder Tammahome's family]], this doesn't work so well: by the time his DarkAndTroubledPast comes to light, many readers had lost all ability to sympathize with him.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: * Nakago is supposed to be seen as a [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds victim of circumstances that drove him to evil]], and as a result, the intent is to make him come across as pitiable and worthy of forgiveness. Because of the horrific atrocities he commits, [[spoiler:like driving Suboshi to murder Tammahome's family]], this doesn't work so well: by the time his DarkAndTroubledPast comes to light, many readers had lost all ability to sympathize with him.
3rd Nov '17 1:58:48 PM BatmanKalEl
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: * Nakago is supposed to be seen as a [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds victim of circumstances that drove him to evil]], and as a result, the intent is to make him come across as pitiable and worthy of forgiveness. Because of the horrific atrocities he commits, [[spoiler:like driving Suboshi to murder Tammahome's family]], this doesn't work so well: by the time his DarkAndTroubledPast comes to light, many readers had lost all ability to sympathize with him.
18th Sep '17 7:36:39 AM DreamerCynist2
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** Nakago has proved to be an extremely controversial character on this very wiki. He's a MagnificentBastard and sympathetic WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds for some, an InvincibleVillain for others. There's ''very'' little in-between, and him being the ([[WordOfGod confessed]]) CreatorsFavorite doesn't help.

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** Nakago has proved to be an extremely controversial character on this very wiki. He's a MagnificentBastard and sympathetic WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds for some, an a vile InvincibleVillain for others. There's ''very'' little in-between, and him being the ([[WordOfGod confessed]]) CreatorsFavorite doesn't help.
8th May '17 9:08:27 PM Golondrina
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** And there was apparently enough Tasuki/Nuriko going on that they became the basis for one of the earliest yaoi doujinshi out of the gate. It doesn't really help either that their [[MaryElizabethMcGlynn English]] [[DaranNorris seiyuu]] got married.

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** And there was apparently enough Tasuki/Nuriko going on that they became the basis for one of the earliest yaoi doujinshi out of the gate. It doesn't really help either that their [[MaryElizabethMcGlynn [[Creator/MaryElizabethMcGlynn English]] [[DaranNorris [[Creator/DaranNorris seiyuu]] got married.



* NarmCharm: A lot of moments in the English dub of the anime come across as either of these two. The main two that come to mind are Episodes 4 and 5 of the second OVA: Tasuki's [[spoiler:NearRapeExperience with Miaka]] is dramatic until you remember what other roles DaranNorris has had, and [[spoiler:Hikou's death]] is an absolute TearJerker... right until you hear the sound effect they use. In fact, the whole scene can be seen as {{Narm}} because of the music they're using.

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* NarmCharm: A lot of moments in the English dub of the anime come across as either of these two. The main two that come to mind are Episodes 4 and 5 of the second OVA: Tasuki's [[spoiler:NearRapeExperience with Miaka]] is dramatic until you remember what other roles DaranNorris Creator/DaranNorris has had, and [[spoiler:Hikou's death]] is an absolute TearJerker... right until you hear the sound effect they use. In fact, the whole scene can be seen as {{Narm}} because of the music they're using.
10th Apr '17 2:51:09 PM BatmanKalEl
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* BrokenBase: The ending has Nuriko reincarnated as a little girl who seems to be friend with an also little Hotohori. While many fans love this as Nuriko now can be with Hotohori, just as many fans aren't pleased since they were impressed with Nuriko when he was being manly, and feel that by making him reborned as a girl, it destroyed all his efforts to leave behind his little sister's shadow and forced him on the stereotypical {{Uke}} role. Let's just leave it at that.

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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
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The ending has Nuriko reincarnated as a little girl who seems to be friend with an also little Hotohori. While many fans love this as Nuriko now can be with Hotohori, just as many fans aren't pleased since they were impressed with Nuriko when he was being manly, and feel that by making him reborned as a girl, it destroyed all his efforts to leave behind his little sister's shadow and forced him on the stereotypical {{Uke}} role. Let's just leave it at that.
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