History YMMV / Free

21st Apr '17 8:45:21 AM crazysamaritan
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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: The Free fic with the most kudos in ArchiveOfOurOwn is [[JerkassWoobie Sousuke]]/[[NiceGuy Makoto]], and there are currently more [[AngelDevilShipping Soumako]] fanfic than there are of [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Sourin]]. Before ES 14, [[CrackPairing Sousuke and Makoto had only ever interacted in High Speed 2, where Makoto was]] ''[[CrackPairing speaking for Haru]]''.
* ShipToShipCombat: Tensions between Rin/Haruka and Makoto/Haruka shippers had been brewing through Episodes 1-5, but after Episode 6 it seems the sparks of animosity have ignited between the two groups. It got worse in season 2.

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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: The Free fic with the most kudos in ArchiveOfOurOwn Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn is [[JerkassWoobie Sousuke]]/[[NiceGuy Makoto]], and there are currently more [[AngelDevilShipping Soumako]] fanfic than there are of [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Sourin]]. Before ES 14, [[CrackPairing Sousuke and Makoto had only ever interacted in High Speed 2, where Makoto was]] ''[[CrackPairing speaking for Haru]]''.
* ShipToShipCombat: ShipToShipCombat:
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Tensions between Rin/Haruka and Makoto/Haruka shippers had been brewing through Episodes 1-5, but after Episode 6 it seems the sparks of animosity have ignited between the two groups. It got worse in season 2.



*** Of course, this works both ways. Since Sousuke had only appeared in promotional material, they really had no way of knowing what he would be like in-story. Even so, people (mainly [=MakoHaru=] shippers) were eager to pair him off with Rin. The day Sousuke was announced (within the hour, in fact), quite a few [=MakoHaru=] fans on Twitter declared that Sousuke would destroy [=RinHaru=] and preemptively declared [=RinHaru=] as sunk.
* ValuesDissonance: A good part of the discussions over the end chalk up to the ''very'' Japanese mindset that goes by the [[TeamSpirit "team above everything" mentality.]] For the Japanese, Rei's decision [[spoiler: to let Rin have his spot for the relay]] was [[HeroicSacrifice the most selfless and kind action he could ever pull]], making him the hero of the day and possibly ''even more'' of a team member than before; for the Westerners, it's completely unfair as it's seen to stunt Rei's reason to even be there ''and'' it totally derails his character and motivation.

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*** ** Of course, this works both ways. Since Sousuke had only appeared in promotional material, they really had no way of knowing what he would be like in-story. Even so, people (mainly [=MakoHaru=] shippers) were eager to pair him off with Rin. The day Sousuke was announced (within the hour, in fact), quite a few [=MakoHaru=] fans on Twitter declared that Sousuke would destroy [=RinHaru=] and preemptively declared [=RinHaru=] as sunk.
* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
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A good part of the discussions over the end chalk up to the ''very'' Japanese mindset that goes by the [[TeamSpirit "team above everything" mentality.]] For the Japanese, Rei's decision [[spoiler: to let Rin have his spot for the relay]] was [[HeroicSacrifice the most selfless and kind action he could ever pull]], making him the hero of the day and possibly ''even more'' of a team member than before; for the Westerners, it's completely unfair as it's seen to stunt Rei's reason to even be there ''and'' it totally derails his character and motivation.
13th Apr '17 8:03:43 AM Wilderstorm
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** Most fans are still doing their best to avoid this, but the [[ShipToShipCombat ship war]] between Makoto/Haru shippers and Rin/Haru shippers is beginning to heat up. Even more so after episode 7, when [[spoiler:Rin defeats Haruka in a swimming race, saying that he will never swim again with Haruka after his less-than-graceful reaction to this]], which has the Makoto/Haruka shippers out for Rin's blood.
*** Though, there ''is'' [=MakoRin=] shipping and some just TakeAThirdOption and [[OneTrueThreesome ship them three together]]

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** Most fans are still doing did their best to avoid this, but the [[ShipToShipCombat ship war]] between Makoto/Haru shippers and Rin/Haru shippers is beginning began to heat up. up as the first season progressed. Even more so after episode 7, when [[spoiler:Rin defeats Haruka in a swimming race, saying Freestyle race and proclaims that he will never swim again with Haruka after his less-than-graceful reaction to this]], again (plus some major UnsportsmanlikeGloating)]], which has the Makoto/Haruka shippers out for Rin's blood.
*** Though, The ship wars certainly do exist, but there ''is'' [=MakoRin=] shipping shipping, and some just other fans TakeAThirdOption and [[OneTrueThreesome ship them all three together]]



** [[BaseBreaker Sousuke]] has received surprisingly minimal vitriol (for shipping reasons, anyway). His HoYay interactions with Rin are the only ones with any prominence in the show, and it's easy for [=RinHaru=] shippers to stick Sousuke firmly in the "best friend" role (the same role they assign to Makoto). [=MakoHaru=] shippers tend to be fairly tolerant of Sousuke, because either they hate Rin and Sousuke is completely irrelevant to their ships, or they [[ShipMates don't mind [=SouRin=] because it's not [=RinHaru=]]].

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** [[BaseBreaker [[BaseBreakingCharacter Sousuke]] has received surprisingly minimal vitriol (for shipping reasons, anyway). His HoYay interactions with Rin are the only ones with any prominence in the show, and it's easy for [=RinHaru=] shippers to stick Sousuke firmly in the "best friend" role (the same role they assign to Makoto). [=MakoHaru=] shippers tend to be fairly tolerant of Sousuke, because either they hate Rin and Sousuke is completely irrelevant to their ships, or they [[ShipMates don't mind [=SouRin=] because it's not [=RinHaru=]]].
13th Apr '17 7:52:30 AM Wilderstorm
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** Either Rin is a completely broken person who needs a big hug, or a selfish monster who should never be allowed near a pool. Things have been made only worse with the announcement that he's going to be voiced by Creator/VicMignogna for the English dub.
** To a lesser degree, Nitori; while he has quite a few fans (and is even listed under EnsembleDarkhorse on this page), a decent section of the fandom finds him annoying.

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** Either In season 1, Rin is either a completely broken damaged person who needs a big hug, or a selfish monster who should never be allowed near a pool. Things have been made only worse Rin became less controversial in Eternal Summer when he TookALevelInKindness, but another split formed with the announcement that he's going to he would be voiced by Creator/VicMignogna for in the English dub.
** To a lesser degree, Nitori; while he has quite a few fans (and is even listed under EnsembleDarkhorse on this page), a decent section of the fandom finds him annoying. Eternal Summer also gave him a wider appeal, showing his growth as a swimmer and his entertaining interactions with Momotaro.
14th Mar '17 5:36:02 PM lalaTKG
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** In the years since the show originally aired, some fans are taking issue with it as a whole, citing it as a mediocre show with its main draw factor being cute boys with relationship subtext that goes nowhere. On the other hand, some fans don't mind this at all, since those fans frame the show as a counterpoint to {{Moe}} and fanservice shows, the writing for the show was fine (especially season 1), and the subtext didn't ''have'' to be there if you weren't looking for it.


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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: In the years since the show originally aired, what once was a series that helped revived interest in sports anime is now sometimes cited as a mediocre show with its main draw factor being cute boys with relationship subtext that goes nowhere. On the other hand, some fans don't mind this much, since those fans frame the show as a counterpoint to {{Moe}} and female fanservice shows, the writing for the show was fine (especially for season 1), and the subtext didn't ''have'' to be there if you weren't looking for it.
31st Jan '17 11:13:29 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Hey, remember those [[DarkerandEdgier drowning anime]] jokes from earlier? [[spoiler: They became real in Episode 5]].

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Hey, remember those [[DarkerandEdgier [[DarkerAndEdgier drowning anime]] jokes from earlier? [[spoiler: They became real in Episode 5]].
19th Jan '17 9:37:19 AM Oecchi
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** One arose with ''Anime/YuriOnIce'' when it aired, due to both series being unexpected hits involving sports and having a lot of HoYay. If either of them are brought up in the same discussion, expect there to be arguments over which show did what better.

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** One arose with ''Anime/YuriOnIce'' when it aired, due to both series being unexpected hits involving sports and having a lot of HoYay. If either of them are one series is brought up in when discussing the same discussion, other, expect there to be arguments over which show did what better.
15th Jan '17 2:13:03 AM Barano
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** That said, the Season 1 finale had a ''huge'' whiplash in the Japanese fandom as well, and there were just as many Japanese fans as Western fans who were disappointed and thought that it was incredibly unfair toward Rei. Many of them were upset that we never saw any of the other characters appreciating Rei's sacrifice (not even a "thanks") and that this made Rei seem like he was ultimately just an outsider in the Rin drama. There are lots of "fix-it" fanart at pixiv of the other characters apologizing to Rei, and lots of fanfic where he angsts about how, after everything, the team still chose Rin over him.
15th Jan '17 12:50:15 AM creader
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* FanNickname: Swimming Anime.
** Certain translations of the anime have been adamant in super imposing "GAY SWIMMING" over the anime's title. Seeing how they've been putting forth the effort of translating the anime anyway, [[JustForFun this probably isn't as derogatory as you might think.]]
** Season two added "EVEN MORE GAY SWIMMING".
** Character-wise, fans have started calling Mikoshiba Momotarou, "Minishiba."
5th Jan '17 8:11:16 AM lalaTKG
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** In the years since it originally aired, some fans are taking issue with the show as a whole, citing it as a mediocre show with its main draw factor being cute boys with relationship subtext that goes nowhere. On the other hand, some fans don't mind this at all, since at the time there weren't many anime that tried to center on hot guys for the female audience to ogle like standard {{Moe}} and fanservice shows, the writing for the show was fine (especially season 1), and the subtext didn't ''have'' to be there if you weren't looking for it.

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** In the years since it the show originally aired, some fans are taking issue with the show it as a whole, citing it as a mediocre show with its main draw factor being cute boys with relationship subtext that goes nowhere. On the other hand, some fans don't mind this at all, since at those fans frame the time there weren't many anime that tried show as a counterpoint to center on hot guys for the female audience to ogle like standard {{Moe}} and fanservice shows, the writing for the show was fine (especially season 1), and the subtext didn't ''have'' to be there if you weren't looking for it.
30th Dec '16 12:41:12 PM Oecchi
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** One arose with ''Anime/YuriOnIce'' when it aired, due to both series being unexpected hits involving sports and having a lot of HoYay. If either of them are brought up, expect there to be arguments over which show did what better.

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** One arose with ''Anime/YuriOnIce'' when it aired, due to both series being unexpected hits involving sports and having a lot of HoYay. If either of them are brought up, up in the same discussion, expect there to be arguments over which show did what better.
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