History YMMV / Free

1st Sep '17 8:51:01 PM Angeldeb82
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* BrokenBase: In regards to the Season 1 ending. A lot of people see Rei's decision to [[spoiler: give up his spot on the relay for Rin]] as an incredibly kind gesture and the perfect ending for his CharacterDevelopment, since it's a sign of how much he has grown and [[spoiler: how by [[AFriendinNeed putting the teams' needs over his own]], he's given them a much bigger chance to win the Nationals]]. Others see it as completely ''derailing'' his CharacterDevelopment, because this ending would be unfair after all the hard work he did, and it makes him seem like a permanent outsider.

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* BrokenBase: In regards to the Season 1 ending. A lot of people see Rei's decision to [[spoiler: give up his spot on the relay for Rin]] as an incredibly kind gesture and the perfect ending for his CharacterDevelopment, since it's a sign of how much he has grown and [[spoiler: how by [[AFriendinNeed [[AFriendInNeed putting the teams' needs over his own]], he's given them a much bigger chance to win the Nationals]]. Others see it as completely ''derailing'' his CharacterDevelopment, because this ending would be unfair after all the hard work he did, and it makes him seem like a permanent outsider.



** The season finale ''again,'' with some fans dissatisfied with [[spoiler: Rin's role and influence on Haruka]] being downplayed as compared to season 1's ending, with [[spoiler: Rin separating from his TrueCompanions to go to Australia again,]] and with [[spoiler: Haruka and Makoto attending schools in Tokyo, making their fight seem like needless melodrama]]. Others are upset that [[spoiler: Sousuke]] is the only character who didn't seem to get a happy ending.
** The dub either has fans up in arms, rolling on the floor in laughter, or somewhat pleased. The butchered pronunciation, notably Rin's name pronounced as ''Reen'' and the case of Samezuka Academy, which suffers from AccentUponTheWrongSyllable, and turns into ''Sa-MAY-zooka'' have been especially noted, as well as the dub's overuse of "dude" and "man". On the other hand, many fans are very satisfied with some of their casting that includes Creator/JMichaelTatum, Creator/JohnnyYongBosch, Creator/GregAyres, Creator/ToddHaberkorn, and Creator/VicMignogna, and fans highlight Creator/{{Funimation}} competency when it comes to the voice directing and casting of an anime series with a CastFullOfPrettyBoys (although it should be noted that the script writing is still very polarizing).

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** The season finale ''again,'' with some fans dissatisfied with [[spoiler: Rin's role and influence on Haruka]] being downplayed as compared to season 1's ending, with [[spoiler: Rin separating from his TrueCompanions to go to Australia again,]] again]], and with [[spoiler: Haruka and Makoto attending schools in Tokyo, making their fight seem like needless melodrama]]. Others are upset that [[spoiler: Sousuke]] is the only character who didn't seem to get a happy ending.
** The dub either has fans up in arms, rolling on the floor in laughter, or somewhat pleased. The butchered pronunciation, notably Rin's name pronounced as ''Reen'' and the case of Samezuka Academy, which suffers from AccentUponTheWrongSyllable, AcCENTUponTheWrongSylLABle, and turns into ''Sa-MAY-zooka'' have been especially noted, as well as the dub's overuse of "dude" and "man". On the other hand, many fans are very satisfied with some of their casting that includes Creator/JMichaelTatum, Creator/JohnnyYongBosch, Creator/GregAyres, Creator/ToddHaberkorn, and Creator/VicMignogna, and fans highlight Creator/{{Funimation}} competency when it comes to the voice directing and casting of an anime series with a CastFullOfPrettyBoys (although it should be noted that the script writing is still very polarizing).



*** The ship wars certainly do exist, but there ''is'' [=MakoRin=] shipping, and other fans TakeAThirdOption and [[OneTrueThreesome ship all three together]]

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*** The ship wars certainly do exist, but there ''is'' [=MakoRin=] shipping, and other fans TakeAThirdOption and [[OneTrueThreesome ship all three together]]together]].



* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Hey, remember those [[DarkerAndEdgier drowning anime]] jokes from earlier? [[spoiler: They became real in Episode 5]].

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Hey, remember those [[DarkerAndEdgier drowning anime]] jokes from earlier? [[spoiler: They became real in Episode 5]].5.]]



** Sousuke as well, especially once it's revealed that [[spoiler: he has a shoulder injury.]]

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** Sousuke as well, especially once it's revealed that [[spoiler: he has a shoulder injury.]]injury]].



* MartyStu: Some fans accuse Makoto and Haru of being one.



** And there's a large number of animation enthusiasts who watch it [[VisualEffectsOfAwesome just how beautifully animated the water is.]]

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** And there's a large number of animation enthusiasts who watch it [[VisualEffectsOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome just how beautifully animated the water is.]]is]].



* SequelDisplacement: There aren't a lot of people who actually knew that ''Free!'' was based off of a series of {{Light Novels}} called ''High☆Speed!'' about the gang ([[CanonForeigner sans Rei]]), but as [[KidHero children]] instead of teenagers.

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* SequelDisplacement: There aren't a lot of people who actually knew that ''Free!'' was based off of a series of {{Light Novels}} LightNovels called ''High☆Speed!'' about the gang ([[CanonForeigner sans Rei]]), but as [[KidHero children]] instead of teenagers.



** You can also see some [[LesYay Gou/Chigusa]] shipping around.

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** You can also see some [[LesYay [[HoYay Gou/Chigusa]] shipping around.



** New[[labelnote:ish]]he's a returning character from High Speed![[/labelnote]] character Sousuke inspired this in record time[[labelnote:*]]you could say... with [[JustForPun high speed]][[/labelnote]]. He's got a childhood connection to Rin, meaning [=RinHaru=] shippers feel threatened by the potential existence of new ship [=SouRin=]. Some even pre-emptively accused [=MakoHaru=] shippers of [[PairTheSpares Pairing The Spares]] so Rin won't be a threat to [=MakoHaru=]. Bear in mind that at the point in time these feelings erupted, this character had only been introduced in the promotional material for season 2. ''[[FanDumb He didn't even have a canon color scheme yet.]]''

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** New[[labelnote:ish]]he's a returning character from High Speed![[/labelnote]] character Sousuke inspired this in record time[[labelnote:*]]you could say... with [[JustForPun high speed]][[/labelnote]]. He's got a childhood connection to Rin, meaning [=RinHaru=] shippers feel threatened by the potential existence of new ship [=SouRin=]. Some even pre-emptively accused [=MakoHaru=] shippers of [[PairTheSpares Pairing The the Spares]] so Rin won't be a threat to [=MakoHaru=]. Bear in mind that at the point in time these feelings erupted, this character had only been introduced in the promotional material for season 2. ''[[FanDumb He ''He didn't even have a canon color scheme yet.]]''''



** A good part of the discussions over the end chalk up to the ''very'' Japanese mindset that goes by the [[TeamSpirit "team above everything" mentality.]] For the Japanese, Rei's decision [[spoiler: to let Rin have his spot for the relay]] was [[HeroicSacrifice the most selfless and kind action he could ever pull]], making him the hero of the day and possibly ''even more'' of a team member than before; for the Westerners, it's completely unfair as it's seen to stunt Rei's reason to even be there ''and'' it totally derails his character and motivation.

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** A good part of the discussions over the end chalk up to the ''very'' Japanese mindset that goes by the [[TeamSpirit "team above everything" mentality.]] mentality]]. For the Japanese, Rei's decision [[spoiler: to let Rin have his spot for the relay]] was [[HeroicSacrifice the most selfless and kind action he could ever pull]], making him the hero of the day and possibly ''even more'' of a team member than before; for the Westerners, it's completely unfair as it's seen to stunt Rei's reason to even be there ''and'' it totally derails his character and motivation.



* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: All over the original PV, especially the gorgeous water animation and highly attractive [[FemaleGaze male anatomy.]]
* WhatAnIdiot: Yes, Rei, go ahead and swim. You're an inexperienced swimmer practicing at night, in open ocean water, while everyone else is sleeping. What could possibly go wrong? So much for being [[TheSmartGuy the smart guy]]..

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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: All over the original PV, especially the gorgeous water animation and highly attractive [[FemaleGaze male anatomy.]]
anatomy]].
* WhatAnIdiot: Yes, Rei, go ahead and swim. You're an inexperienced swimmer practicing at night, in open ocean water, while everyone else is sleeping. What could possibly go wrong? So much for being [[TheSmartGuy the smart guy]]..TheSmartGuy.
1st Sep '17 10:33:51 AM lalaTKG
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: What story? This is the show where hot guys swim a lot and show off their half-naked bodies!. As the anime seems to have been deliberately intended as a [[FemaleGaze female-directed equivalent]] to the all-prevalent moe fanservice anime, this was probably expected, and the producers and advertisers have certainly made the most of it.

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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: What story? This is the show where hot guys swim a lot and show off their half-naked bodies!. bodies! As the anime seems to have been deliberately intended as a [[FemaleGaze female-directed equivalent]] to the all-prevalent moe fanservice anime, this was probably expected, and the producers and advertisers have certainly made the most of it.
1st Aug '17 2:24:43 PM fruitstripegum
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: In the years since the show originally aired, what once was a series that helped revived interest in sports anime is now sometimes cited as a mediocre show with its main draw factor being cute boys with relationship subtext that goes nowhere. On the other hand, some fans don't mind this much, since those fans frame the show as a counterpoint to {{Moe}} and female fanservice shows, the writing for the show was fine (especially for season 1), and the subtext didn't ''have'' to be there if you weren't looking for it.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: In the years since the show originally aired, what once was a series that helped revived interest in sports anime is now sometimes cited as a mediocre show with its main draw factor being cute boys with relationship subtext that goes nowhere. On the other hand, some fans don't mind this much, since those fans frame the show as a counterpoint to {{Moe}} and female fanservice shows, the writing for the show was fine (especially for season 1), and the subtext didn't ''have'' to be there if you weren't looking for it.
18th Jul '17 12:41:03 PM nanakiro
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* AdaptationDisplacement: There aren't a lot of people who actually knew that ''Free!'' was based off of a series of {{Light Novels}} called ''High☆Speed!'' about the gang ([[CanonForeigner sans Rei]]), but as [[KidHero children]] instead of teenagers.


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* SequelDisplacement: There aren't a lot of people who actually knew that ''Free!'' was based off of a series of {{Light Novels}} called ''High☆Speed!'' about the gang ([[CanonForeigner sans Rei]]), but as [[KidHero children]] instead of teenagers.
21st Apr '17 8:45:21 AM crazysamaritan
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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: The Free fic with the most kudos in ArchiveOfOurOwn is [[JerkassWoobie Sousuke]]/[[NiceGuy Makoto]], and there are currently more [[AngelDevilShipping Soumako]] fanfic than there are of [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Sourin]]. Before ES 14, [[CrackPairing Sousuke and Makoto had only ever interacted in High Speed 2, where Makoto was]] ''[[CrackPairing speaking for Haru]]''.
* ShipToShipCombat: Tensions between Rin/Haruka and Makoto/Haruka shippers had been brewing through Episodes 1-5, but after Episode 6 it seems the sparks of animosity have ignited between the two groups. It got worse in season 2.

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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: The Free fic with the most kudos in ArchiveOfOurOwn Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn is [[JerkassWoobie Sousuke]]/[[NiceGuy Makoto]], and there are currently more [[AngelDevilShipping Soumako]] fanfic than there are of [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Sourin]]. Before ES 14, [[CrackPairing Sousuke and Makoto had only ever interacted in High Speed 2, where Makoto was]] ''[[CrackPairing speaking for Haru]]''.
* ShipToShipCombat: ShipToShipCombat:
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Tensions between Rin/Haruka and Makoto/Haruka shippers had been brewing through Episodes 1-5, but after Episode 6 it seems the sparks of animosity have ignited between the two groups. It got worse in season 2.



*** Of course, this works both ways. Since Sousuke had only appeared in promotional material, they really had no way of knowing what he would be like in-story. Even so, people (mainly [=MakoHaru=] shippers) were eager to pair him off with Rin. The day Sousuke was announced (within the hour, in fact), quite a few [=MakoHaru=] fans on Twitter declared that Sousuke would destroy [=RinHaru=] and preemptively declared [=RinHaru=] as sunk.
* ValuesDissonance: A good part of the discussions over the end chalk up to the ''very'' Japanese mindset that goes by the [[TeamSpirit "team above everything" mentality.]] For the Japanese, Rei's decision [[spoiler: to let Rin have his spot for the relay]] was [[HeroicSacrifice the most selfless and kind action he could ever pull]], making him the hero of the day and possibly ''even more'' of a team member than before; for the Westerners, it's completely unfair as it's seen to stunt Rei's reason to even be there ''and'' it totally derails his character and motivation.

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*** ** Of course, this works both ways. Since Sousuke had only appeared in promotional material, they really had no way of knowing what he would be like in-story. Even so, people (mainly [=MakoHaru=] shippers) were eager to pair him off with Rin. The day Sousuke was announced (within the hour, in fact), quite a few [=MakoHaru=] fans on Twitter declared that Sousuke would destroy [=RinHaru=] and preemptively declared [=RinHaru=] as sunk.
* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
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A good part of the discussions over the end chalk up to the ''very'' Japanese mindset that goes by the [[TeamSpirit "team above everything" mentality.]] For the Japanese, Rei's decision [[spoiler: to let Rin have his spot for the relay]] was [[HeroicSacrifice the most selfless and kind action he could ever pull]], making him the hero of the day and possibly ''even more'' of a team member than before; for the Westerners, it's completely unfair as it's seen to stunt Rei's reason to even be there ''and'' it totally derails his character and motivation.
13th Apr '17 8:03:43 AM Wilderstorm
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** Most fans are still doing their best to avoid this, but the [[ShipToShipCombat ship war]] between Makoto/Haru shippers and Rin/Haru shippers is beginning to heat up. Even more so after episode 7, when [[spoiler:Rin defeats Haruka in a swimming race, saying that he will never swim again with Haruka after his less-than-graceful reaction to this]], which has the Makoto/Haruka shippers out for Rin's blood.
*** Though, there ''is'' [=MakoRin=] shipping and some just TakeAThirdOption and [[OneTrueThreesome ship them three together]]

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** Most fans are still doing did their best to avoid this, but the [[ShipToShipCombat ship war]] between Makoto/Haru shippers and Rin/Haru shippers is beginning began to heat up. up as the first season progressed. Even more so after episode 7, when [[spoiler:Rin defeats Haruka in a swimming race, saying Freestyle race and proclaims that he will never swim again with Haruka after his less-than-graceful reaction to this]], again (plus some major UnsportsmanlikeGloating)]], which has the Makoto/Haruka shippers out for Rin's blood.
*** Though, The ship wars certainly do exist, but there ''is'' [=MakoRin=] shipping shipping, and some just other fans TakeAThirdOption and [[OneTrueThreesome ship them all three together]]



** [[BaseBreaker Sousuke]] has received surprisingly minimal vitriol (for shipping reasons, anyway). His HoYay interactions with Rin are the only ones with any prominence in the show, and it's easy for [=RinHaru=] shippers to stick Sousuke firmly in the "best friend" role (the same role they assign to Makoto). [=MakoHaru=] shippers tend to be fairly tolerant of Sousuke, because either they hate Rin and Sousuke is completely irrelevant to their ships, or they [[ShipMates don't mind [=SouRin=] because it's not [=RinHaru=]]].

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** [[BaseBreaker [[BaseBreakingCharacter Sousuke]] has received surprisingly minimal vitriol (for shipping reasons, anyway). His HoYay interactions with Rin are the only ones with any prominence in the show, and it's easy for [=RinHaru=] shippers to stick Sousuke firmly in the "best friend" role (the same role they assign to Makoto). [=MakoHaru=] shippers tend to be fairly tolerant of Sousuke, because either they hate Rin and Sousuke is completely irrelevant to their ships, or they [[ShipMates don't mind [=SouRin=] because it's not [=RinHaru=]]].
13th Apr '17 7:52:30 AM Wilderstorm
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** Either Rin is a completely broken person who needs a big hug, or a selfish monster who should never be allowed near a pool. Things have been made only worse with the announcement that he's going to be voiced by Creator/VicMignogna for the English dub.
** To a lesser degree, Nitori; while he has quite a few fans (and is even listed under EnsembleDarkhorse on this page), a decent section of the fandom finds him annoying.

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** Either In season 1, Rin is either a completely broken damaged person who needs a big hug, or a selfish monster who should never be allowed near a pool. Things have been made only worse Rin became less controversial in Eternal Summer when he TookALevelInKindness, but another split formed with the announcement that he's going to he would be voiced by Creator/VicMignogna for in the English dub.
** To a lesser degree, Nitori; while he has quite a few fans (and is even listed under EnsembleDarkhorse on this page), a decent section of the fandom finds him annoying. Eternal Summer also gave him a wider appeal, showing his growth as a swimmer and his entertaining interactions with Momotaro.
14th Mar '17 5:36:02 PM lalaTKG
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** In the years since the show originally aired, some fans are taking issue with it as a whole, citing it as a mediocre show with its main draw factor being cute boys with relationship subtext that goes nowhere. On the other hand, some fans don't mind this at all, since those fans frame the show as a counterpoint to {{Moe}} and fanservice shows, the writing for the show was fine (especially season 1), and the subtext didn't ''have'' to be there if you weren't looking for it.


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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: In the years since the show originally aired, what once was a series that helped revived interest in sports anime is now sometimes cited as a mediocre show with its main draw factor being cute boys with relationship subtext that goes nowhere. On the other hand, some fans don't mind this much, since those fans frame the show as a counterpoint to {{Moe}} and female fanservice shows, the writing for the show was fine (especially for season 1), and the subtext didn't ''have'' to be there if you weren't looking for it.
31st Jan '17 11:13:29 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Hey, remember those [[DarkerandEdgier drowning anime]] jokes from earlier? [[spoiler: They became real in Episode 5]].

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Hey, remember those [[DarkerandEdgier [[DarkerAndEdgier drowning anime]] jokes from earlier? [[spoiler: They became real in Episode 5]].
19th Jan '17 9:37:19 AM Oecchi
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** One arose with ''Anime/YuriOnIce'' when it aired, due to both series being unexpected hits involving sports and having a lot of HoYay. If either of them are brought up in the same discussion, expect there to be arguments over which show did what better.

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** One arose with ''Anime/YuriOnIce'' when it aired, due to both series being unexpected hits involving sports and having a lot of HoYay. If either of them are one series is brought up in when discussing the same discussion, other, expect there to be arguments over which show did what better.
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